I support neither team...But I actually remember the end part of this being on the channel 4 documentary football's fight club back in the early 00s...one of the Chelsea hooligans on it even claimed that west ham's firm where the masters of taking London team's pubs...But the copper nailed on the head at the end when he said that west ham took absolute liberties that day at Millwall.... Lol
U are bang on right pal I'm not scared 2 admit when we get done an we have done on numerous occasions but this day we took absolute liberty on Wall turf fact
That day was an education for me as a teenage West Ham supporter - I lived in South London and got off the bus outside New Cross Gate and was right in the middle of it all - I hadn't a clue who was who, where the police were and could only think about not getting nicked as my mum and dad would have killed me. It was worse after the game - the police escort was brutal and I just remember cars and houses getting bricked and bottled all the way back to New Cross. Very different times.
jesus this is old skool. The police officers sound like normal fans, no way would they ever get away with using terminlogy like "thats whats called West Ham taking liberties at Millwall" these days, someone from the PC police would have em!
Just to put the record straight for some of the contributors to this thread. The first and only time Upton Park was 'taken' was 1967 when the Stretford End came down en masse and filled the North Bank at about 1.30pm. Most West Ham were locked out, including me, and had to go down the South Bank. This was the first real showing of the Mile End mob who somehow gained entry around 2.50pm and it was continuous fighting from thereon and was still going off back along the railway and at Euston at 9 in the evening. 1975 was a different story. The Mancs came down in significant numbers and went in the South Bank but were given a torrid time. Many escaping on to the pitch and the game was held up for some time while the police restored order. The ambush at Bethnal Green station after the match was brutal and several had to be stretchered away to hospital. This was part revenge for 67 and part teaching a lesson for the way they behaved when they were in the Second Division, smashing towns and trains up and down the country. Not the West Ham way and definitely not in East London.We had many run ins with the Mancs over the years and in fairness they were a game lot. Never liked them though. Millwall, Man Utd, Chelsea were particularly disliked by us in those days.
Teaching a lesson which is exactly what West ham got February 76 at the return league game Scoreboard paddock west ham went in, and smashed from top to bottom, a few even ending up running down the players tunnel to escape.
No he wasn’t he was stabbed at the embankment by John Johnson. Him and Darren legister did 12 years. For it. So don’t know where you got Earl’s Court from my friend ?
@My Northern Garden Really? how comes your top guy from back in the 80s said the best mob to ever go to ST James in terms of quality was West Ham? he said Chelsea were the best mob in terms of numbers, but West Ham were the best for opposition, plus one of your top pubs got done in 1980, thats why you went full on cowardice and lobbed a petrol bomb into the West Ham end, so as payback for the next few years, every time the Geordies came down to London, West Ham were waiting for you, lol the Geordies got pissed off with it.
@My Northern Garden the next game at Upton park after the muggy fire bomb u were like little mice especially at full time when o.b let us in to your pen I never seen so many people run so fast straight down stairs to other mob you got proper served that day don't try and say otherwise cos I was there.⚒️
@My Northern Garden Aint exactly tough is it, to lob a petrol bomb from the safety of your own terrace? you got done on the streets, so thats what you reverted to, before the petrol bomb game one of your pubs got turned over where all your top guys met up. Because of the petrol bomb, for a number of years after, every time Newcastle came down to London, West Ham were there to greet them, even top geordies admitted they got fed up with it. As for Millwall, we had a number of results against them during the 80s, to name a few, ask them about the time we had Birmingham away, they had Walsall, West Ham stayed on the train to get into their Walsall game, once West Ham were inside instead of having it, Millwall squealed us up to the old bill, another time one of our guys were stabbed up by Millwall, later in the day West Ham got to Kings Cross looking for revenge and chased them all over, Millwall were well done, the year after this video was filmed, when West Ham won the 2nd Div title, 200 West Ham went into the Millwall end. Even Chelsea used to take massive numbers to Newcastle, upto 7k, yet in a London derby they bought 2k to Upton Park, any top London mob thought Chelsea were shit, they just played the numbers game, so where does that leave Newcastle?As for Millwall, I respect them, have a lot of time for them, they are a top mob, one of the greatest ever.
@@fredtraylen4311 Muppet, West Ham took your pub where all your top guys met up, you got well done on your turf, that's why the petrol bomb was lobbed. You've never done West Ham at Upton Park, after the petrol bomb incident, every time you came down to London for any London game, West Ham were waiting for you, the George's got so pissed off with it, your guys were heard shouting, why do you coming for us? we didn't thrown the bomb One game after the day of the petrol bomb, you was at QPR away, you saw a mob, thought it was Rangers, realised it was West Ham, you had it on your toes, so you are talking crap.
Theyre sitting drinking ''Newcastle Brown Ale!'', best beer in the world by a mile! I was in Newcastles N.M.E. firm in 80's and 90's, we visited west ham, millwall, chelsea, yids, and every london club basically! West Ham and Millwall away, have both been entertaining events, this is a good watch!
@@raf3070 family pubs are you jokeing i.m swansea i know they not family pubs golden rule hooligans had normal fans pubs with women chidren in out off bounds that the rule so shut up
This is all that was on the tape that had anything to do with millwall and west ham the rest of it was about muggings and pick pockets on the underground
1985 FA Cup 1/4 Final. We lost 4-2. We did not go in the Stretford End that day. All the trouble in the ground was in K Stand seats. Went on and off all the game, both mobs game as fuck. We left 10 mins early and bumped into a big mob of MU outside the Dog and Partridge pub. Fought for a good 5 mins before OB presence became too much. Man U had a huge game firm that day and we had plenty there too. Great day and respect to all the lads who had it from both firms.
Chesterfield red, was at piccadilly before the game and after the game outside the ground. We came out the ground when we clocked you all standing up in the K stand to leave. it kicked off almost immediately but West hams mob which i'm sure included Gardner and Bunter knew it was going to come on top, about 30 yards up the road you lot turned round and faced us, stood there and fell into each other in a real tight formation and readied yourselves for what was about to come at ya. Hats off. Proper days,proper firms. No idea who he was supporting but remember a big skinhead laid out to my left as we came up the road and it was all being filmed at the time by a crew who was making that hooligan documentary.
Cedars 1980..respect pal you got it spot on..from 10 in the morning til early evening it was carnage..we just edged it but total respect for giving it the best go I've ever seen by a firm at o/t..I was totally shattered by the end of the day with bruises and a shiner!..those were the days!😉👹
@@Honourable66..Gardner.. swallow..Cass.. all their top boys were there but we also had all our top boys there!..fighting all day and although we edged it that was imo the games away firm I ever saw at o/t!✊👹
boro was bad whan i went up there 77 , teenage kids v huge mob of grown men ,must admit was the worst i went to , a couple years later ,older wiser , boro was a doddle,leeds i found was easy,stoke ,first time was quite scary ,2nd and third time easy , you can go to a ground one time and it can be bad ,another time easy,i found late 70s early 80s in birmingham,west brom was the worst place i went ,out of birmingham and villa and west brom, everyone had various experiences at different grounds
Wish someone would upload the full documentary called hooligan, this is just a snipit ..Used to have it on tape in the 80s and is still the best doc out there
i think you will find that over the years england firms have been all over europe and totally fucked them up, anyway why would we need to travel across europe all you need to do is go to any building site to find em
Absolute liberties was correct what a day out but seeing the faces of so many who travelled then looking Young, we had a massive turnout for that one apart from cup finals probley one of the best apart maybe the 2009 Cup game loads of the old faces along with the new ones big mob that night
Smashed up a few old people's pubs down the OKR but missed the old folks home at the Bricklayers maybe they thought that was just too risky some of them have got walking sticks and Zimmer frames and they can do some real damage
@@telmillwall hello fella can I ask about when you come over to Mile end after the game and come in the horn of plenty with 15 west ham fans in it, when our firm was in the fountain pub down the road?
@@sidbroughton8750 that was the same day I was one of the 15 in there and they didn’t come as we were battling for our lives holding the door as it was only a little entrance down the side of the pub all they did was put the windows through and threw a flare through the window but if they would of done their homework and come through the main door at the front we would of got mullered!! The dirty cunts even pushed a woman with a kid in a buggy down the stairs as they came out of Mile End station
If millwall were in the crown and anchor, why didnt they charge out when west ham were in sight, come on we all have spotters of our own, so millwall could have easily ran out and got past police yes???
i tottally agree ith you these people fans such as cardiff,stoke leeds,millwall should be banned as they havea core 2000 that cause trouble every game.
West Ham had numbers like Man Utd but we at chels wer different gravy smarter and fearless awaydays wer mad in the 80/90s I couldn't get enough of Chelsea away GATE13 member proud !!
Must be joking, West Ham walked all over Chelsea during the 70s and 80s, we used to take the piss. We called Chelsea the Man Utd of the South, because they played the numbers game, West Ham never had big numbers. That year both teams were going for the league, Chelsea tried to be too smart for their own good by getting off at Plaistow and promptly got massacred at the Green Gate pub, or in 1977, got into the North Bank and got battered, even Hicky said some Chelsea guys were so put off by that experience they never went again. The year you bricked our train at Fulham Broadway, we got out the station, there was only 30 odd of us, you had over 200, you still backed off, started lobbing bottles inside of running at us, everytime we run at your lot you backed off, you should have done us big time, we never even our top guys out. You always turned up in big numbers v Man CityUtd, or Newcastle, but you only bought a few thousand across London to Upto Park, again Hickey admitted you got well ironed out at a night game during the 80s. Jason Marriner said though he didn't like to admit, West Ham were a top mob, I can tell you now, travelling on the trains going back forth to away games, when discussing top mobs, Chelsea never came into the conversation, plus Chelsea were shit scared of Millwall, that I know for a fact.
Are you fucking joking ? you had the numbers boosted by your bumchums from Glasgow Rangers hence the reason you travelled well up North as they never had far to go, WEST HAM had numbers here but the main ICF were only around 40 strong in early 80,s but had it with all even though heavily outnumbered, massive turnout here as we came prepared to put the WEST HAM & millwall debate to bed butwell known fact Chelsea & man u always played the numbers game & it was how you got recognised away in the 80,s early 90,s as like us you were in Div 2 & just smashed up little firms, NEVER EVER travelled to upton park though eh, different gravy ? Here's a quote from one of you're own old skool in the Shed End Forum's, ( it seemed like WEST HAM took the Shed every season in the 80,s ) they also quoted took numbers everywhere but never Upton park, all the fans in the Shed would sing if you're all going WEST HAM clap you're hands but never did, GATE 13 smashed it mate along with the Shed ⚒
Both times did fight every were millwall deadly but west ham are tough respect both I'm no hooligan just like the clothes they were both dressers and what is ironic is how people take an interest in ex hoolies and they all have jobs and careers thatcher got it wrong
Oh what and east London doesn't have any immigrants even your street signs are in hindi and Arabic there are no posters saying 'this area is under sharia law ' english women don't get abused and assaulted for not wearing a burqa
Who are the genuin Millwall fans there are always good fans of all teams including Millwall and west ham I never got involved in trouble the only offence Iever did was to swear outside arsenal stadium in eighty five I called the chairman a four letter word I got a ten pound fine at Highbury court and offence at Liverpool when I was sticking up my finger regarding the famous one minute sign after arsenal won the title
I love it as you see the Newcastle Brown Ale Bottle ot 50 seconds!, real beer in a city riddled with fakes! Newcastle N.M.E. firm (retired!) Good vid this tho as it shows you the build up to the vid we have all seen with west ham appearing on old kent road! back in those days it was the real deal, ''cloned island'' didnt even exist! Its gone now tho, it'll never go back to the way it was!
wasnt millwalls main boozer the royal archer??, or did they mob up there after 2pm?, im ex Newcastle NME firm, i slipped our escort and walked past it on the day andy cole scored his first away goal, some sinister looking lads in and around there from my memory!!
No. Drank in the Royal Archer opposite the East stand. Benches outside. Your average pub. No top boys or mob drank there.Around 88. Nice pub. Now offices!
@cockneyboywhu Some of the west ham lads who were in the mob in this video have admitted they went to the wrong pub. The pub being smashed in this video had no Millwall in it. You have never taken liberties at Millwall so stop pretending you know all there is to know. Essex boy.
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boro was just a grim place with grim people! they were game up there tho! never showed at ours! ever! stoke were always game! never really had any problems at west brom! forest away was always lively! sheff utd too! had a few good uns at geordie,s too back then! more recently, carrdiff bought a decent firm to ours a few years back!
The three you see at the end were millwall, one being a "Top Boy" Those were the days. The old Kent is now owned mainly by immigrants, all the decent pubs have gone.
RAVEN AK47 you obviously don’t know a lot then ..... I used to drink with all 3 back in the day ! All 3 at the end are Millwall .... FACT .... and any Millwall on here will tell u the same
RAVEN AK47 clueless? 🤣 coming from the person naming names ... you really are a tit arnt you ... take ya tongue out of he’s arse and do ya homework!! Whatever you say pal 👍🏻 30 years undefeated!!!! 😂😂 gives us a chuckle that one 🤣 Hide n Seek champions
I did hear about taxing people gear back in the day .in leic geezer was attacked told to hand over his trainers at knife point to be honest this is very scary.also same town I got slapped wearing a burberry cap I'm no hooligan it was a chavs who did and that's why jealous mentality people have if you got nice clothes had comments about wearing a stone island coat people need to grow up a bit.sorry to say it makes me not like leic
wether we got in the stretford end or not i don't know, but what i do know is we came up to manchester every year from about 76 some times we got turned over some times we did ok, but at least at upton park its still full of real supporters unlike the theatre of prawns
The most violent ruthless organised largest hooligan mob i have ever seen was a west ham mob from the late seventies called the Mile End mob they were ruthless .And ive watched games all over england and countries in europe. And iam not a thug hooligan mug.
The only group’s of 👮♀️ in the things that these two firms were able to do whatever they pleased OMG I have never seen anything like that. You know that it’s a little fight over the radio’s of the things I only have to say that it’s not excusable or anything you try to excuse the police 👮♀️ I am so surprised that their wasn’t severe casualties and that indeed clearly the only way to say that it’s a really awfully bad policing
Why do the West Ham fans walk past a packed [with Millwall] Crown & Anchor pub? Instead, they pick on and smash up a very much non-football pub .. the Windsor. Strange, I've never found a west ham fan who can explain the reason behind their avoidance of the C&A. If you're mob handed [numbers in excess of 300 I would imagine] you would have complete control of any pre or post match location, until the OB wrap you up. Good video though, but very dated.
Youll notice at 6.40 suddenly West ham dont look so brave as Millwall are fighting the Old Bill to get across OKR As we were in the pub across by the park that you was MEANT to be coming to and NOT smashing up a Grandads pub.
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 grow up. Theres time when Millwall had a result against west ham like when you were on the way down to palace and got done in new cross, or when you went to arsenal away and got done at a tube station. But truth is you've had results against us and weve had results against you.
That at 6.40 is just someone caught up in it, we was out in force that day you bottled it big time,there for all to see, your at home where was the South London welcome enough said ⚒
They're probably in the boozer where they agreed to meet you before your top boys called old bill and told them where you'd be arriving and make sure you were escorted safely to the ground
Apart from man utd who took upton park over And in 78 millwall took major liberties at updown park Go write another book you seem good at making things up
leeds is not the worst i always thought leed sfans were freindly most of them not even the routine who are ya sign on chants thoguh you do have a lot of scummy fans.
at the end of the day, we strolled through your manor we smashed your pubs up i class that as a result as we can only beat whats in front of us, of course it would have been different if your firm was there, but they werent so what could we do
ha ha then did your alarm go off Jackanory, "smashed yer pubs" up 1 chair through a window of a non wall pub 78 at upton park wall took major liberties in their end No sign of cass, Also the rose new cross my gofd the icf took one hell of a beating that day undefeated ha ha
speak to your old lad who knows that is bollox.. Wall was waiting up the road and vermin attacked a basically empty pub, you either was daft or didnt want to go to where it was lined up for a proper row
@@Vlad-tt9is U knew we was coming to your manner where was u ? I think u was hiding we took the piss that day they're has been other times we have had the better of u lot tit 4 tat over the years
Good and bad in leic like anywhere but it's the way u get stereotypical views about clothes I mean sound a bit silly saying them guys were chavs but I'm not sure if they were.ive seen a bloke dressed in a suit start a bad fight its really all in mind who's dangerous
between 75 to late 81 west ham brought no one to everton, west ham 1980 scruffest mob i ever saw , half tramp like half skinhead types fred perrys braces and airwear boots, at villa park,and elland rd west ham were nothing special, ill ask my younger bro about 83 ,i was otherwise out the game by then, run our whole side mmm smells like bullshit ,might of ran some ,as everyone does at one time or another
West Ham have always been naughty 👊🏴
Excellent
still got this on an old VHS
does anybody know the name of the original documentary this was from? Looking for the source if I can find it.
Underground
4:16...'yeah recieved, WANKER!' ahaha love it
@IbizaMusicCoUk They were to busy making sure that they were safely wrapped up by the old bill
I support neither team...But I actually remember the end part of this being on the channel 4 documentary football's fight club back in the early 00s...one of the Chelsea hooligans on it even claimed that west ham's firm where the masters of taking London team's pubs...But the copper nailed on the head at the end when he said that west ham took absolute liberties that day at Millwall.... Lol
U are bang on right pal I'm not scared 2 admit when we get done an we have done on numerous occasions but this day we took absolute liberty on Wall turf fact
That day was an education for me as a teenage West Ham supporter - I lived in South London and got off the bus outside New Cross Gate and was right in the middle of it all - I hadn't a clue who was who, where the police were and could only think about not getting nicked as my mum and dad would have killed me. It was worse after the game - the police escort was brutal and I just remember cars and houses getting bricked and bottled all the way back to New Cross. Very different times.
" Did u see em clock this van " as the copper points 👉 shaking his fingers .
Not a phone in sight👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The good old days when a bellend was a real bellend
Being a British Police Officer at a train suicide is grim! A bit like being at the Delhi counter at Tescos if you catch my drift,,,,
jesus this is old skool. The police officers sound like normal fans, no way would they ever get away with using terminlogy like "thats whats called West Ham taking liberties at Millwall" these days, someone from the PC police would have em!
The police would be too busy arresting people for Tweets than to attend a real policing matter like a West Ham Millwall game....
This was not old bill
its fake made by west ham fans, how desperate are they
must be true its in a book
@@millwallholdings 😂😂 you talk absolute bollox😂😂
@@millwallholdings Oh dear
@@raf3070 Bit like your comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 them aint they
attack anyone in "rival shirts"?? hahahaha! love it!
do millwall have 2000 fans total??? im not sure
Just to put the record straight for some of the contributors to this thread. The first and only time Upton Park was 'taken' was 1967 when the Stretford End came down en masse and filled the North Bank at about 1.30pm. Most West Ham were locked out, including me, and had to go down the South Bank. This was the first real showing of the Mile End mob who somehow gained entry around 2.50pm and it was continuous fighting from thereon and was still going off back along the railway and at Euston at 9 in the evening. 1975 was a different story. The Mancs came down in significant numbers and went in the South Bank but were given a torrid time. Many escaping on to the pitch and the game was held up for some time while the police restored order. The ambush at Bethnal Green station after the match was brutal and several had to be stretchered away to hospital. This was part revenge for 67 and part teaching a lesson for the way they behaved when they were in the Second Division, smashing towns and trains up and down the country. Not the West Ham way and definitely not in East London.We had many run ins with the Mancs over the years and in fairness they were a game lot. Never liked them though. Millwall, Man Utd, Chelsea were particularly disliked by us in those days.
Was in the southbank in 75, great day.
72 harry Cripps testimonial
The Mile End Mob caused trouble at West Ham the Teddy Bunter firm turned them over and told them to behave and mob up with everyone
Teaching a lesson which is exactly what West ham got February 76 at the return league game
Scoreboard paddock west ham went in, and smashed from top to bottom, a few even ending up running down the players tunnel to escape.
Thank god i missed it
What you done to my caravan? Lol
@DG3744 The building of the pub is still there on the old kent road but its a african food/ bar now
is the bloke doing the commentary joe swash?? lol
The police had no clue
you havent a clue the dead fan was at earls court not embankment and the one at new cross the fan opened the doors of the train the wrong side
No he wasn’t he was stabbed at the embankment by John Johnson. Him and Darren legister did 12 years. For it. So don’t know where you got Earl’s Court from my friend ?
That's true the old bill were everywhere on the station and Lee jumped out of the door and got hit by a train coming up next to it
"That is what is called West ham taking liberties at Millwall" ... The good old days ⚒
@My Northern Garden Really? how comes your top guy from back in the 80s said the best mob to ever go to ST James in terms of quality was West Ham? he said Chelsea were the best mob in terms of numbers, but West Ham were the best for opposition, plus one of your top pubs got done in 1980, thats why you went full on cowardice and lobbed a petrol bomb into the West Ham end, so as payback for the next few years, every time the Geordies came down to London, West Ham were waiting for you, lol the Geordies got pissed off with it.
@My Northern Garden the next game at Upton park after the muggy fire bomb u were like little mice especially at full time when o.b let us in to your pen I never seen so many people run so fast straight down stairs to other mob you got proper served that day don't try and say otherwise cos I was there.⚒️
@My Northern Garden Aint exactly tough is it, to lob a petrol bomb from the safety of your own terrace? you got done on the streets, so thats what you reverted to, before the petrol bomb game one of your pubs got turned over where all your top guys met up. Because of the petrol bomb, for a number of years after, every time Newcastle came down to London, West Ham were there to greet them, even top geordies admitted they got fed up with it.
As for Millwall, we had a number of results against them during the 80s, to name a few, ask them about the time we had Birmingham away, they had Walsall, West Ham stayed on the train to get into their Walsall game, once West Ham were inside instead of having it, Millwall squealed us up to the old bill, another time one of our guys were stabbed up by Millwall, later in the day West Ham got to Kings Cross looking for revenge and chased them all over, Millwall were well done, the year after this video was filmed, when West Ham won the 2nd Div title, 200 West Ham went into the Millwall end.
Even Chelsea used to take massive numbers to Newcastle, upto 7k, yet in a London derby they bought 2k to Upton Park, any top London mob thought Chelsea were shit, they just played the numbers game, so where does that leave Newcastle?As for Millwall, I respect them, have a lot of time for them, they are a top mob, one of the greatest ever.
@@fredtraylen4311 Muppet, West Ham took your pub where all your top guys met up, you got well done on your turf, that's why the petrol bomb was lobbed.
You've never done West Ham at Upton Park, after the petrol bomb incident, every time you came down to London for any London game, West Ham were waiting for you, the George's got so pissed off with it, your guys were heard shouting, why do you coming for us? we didn't thrown the bomb
One game after the day of the petrol bomb, you was at QPR away, you saw a mob, thought it was Rangers, realised it was West Ham, you had it on your toes, so you are talking crap.
@@derekduvall6482 if u could read properly u would see I'm West ham not afucking Geordie sorry would be great ⚒️
Theyre sitting drinking ''Newcastle Brown Ale!'', best beer in the world by a mile!
I was in Newcastles N.M.E. firm in 80's and 90's, we visited west ham, millwall, chelsea, yids, and every london club basically!
West Ham and Millwall away, have both been entertaining events, this is a good watch!
U came down to play QPR a week after the petrol bomb incident at your gaff we soon gave u a big surprise 😉⚒
love Newcastle brown ale
attacking a family pub that early in the morning
They aint family pubs you tit...
@@raf3070 family pubs are you jokeing i.m swansea i know they not family pubs golden rule hooligans had normal fans pubs with women chidren in out off bounds that the rule so shut up
@@raf3070 sorry mate it was ment for that clown ross
This is all that was on the tape that had anything to do with millwall and west ham the rest of it was about muggings and pick pockets on the underground
Shut up u bandit town fool u will never be on our level fact
2.04 the feds aint got a clue "a little firm over here...there a firm of erm erm......, some blokes"
i don't dislike serbs at all and your right their are some stunning looking women, just don'r want to talk about them on a football thread
1985 FA Cup 1/4 Final. We lost 4-2. We did not go in the Stretford End that day. All the trouble in the ground was in K Stand seats. Went on and off all the game, both mobs game as fuck. We left 10 mins early and bumped into a big mob of MU outside the Dog and Partridge pub. Fought for a good 5 mins before OB presence became too much. Man U had a huge game firm that day and we had plenty there too. Great day and respect to all the lads who had it from both firms.
Chesterfield red, was at piccadilly before the game and after the game outside the ground. We came out the ground when we clocked you all standing up in the K stand to leave. it kicked off almost immediately but West hams mob which i'm sure included Gardner and Bunter knew it was going to come on top, about 30 yards up the road you lot turned round and faced us, stood there and fell into each other in a real tight formation and readied yourselves for what was about to come at ya. Hats off. Proper days,proper firms. No idea who he was supporting but remember a big skinhead laid out to my left as we came up the road and it was all being filmed at the time by a crew who was making that hooligan documentary.
@@Honourable66 This works better if you read it in Danny Dyer's voice.
@@matthewsmith6051 hmmm the lack of any “pwopa nawty”, I’m not so sure….
But hey I still liked yer comment!
Cedars 1980..respect pal you got it spot on..from 10 in the morning til early evening it was carnage..we just edged it but total respect for giving it the best go I've ever seen by a firm at o/t..I was totally shattered by the end of the day with bruises and a shiner!..those were the days!😉👹
@@Honourable66..Gardner.. swallow..Cass.. all their top boys were there but we also had all our top boys there!..fighting all day and although we edged it that was imo the games away firm I ever saw at o/t!✊👹
Great day
Nice bottle of brown ale in there
speaking of going to pubs the so called brave zulus came to everton when we were playing stoke away.
Sounds about right ⚒️
YOU'VE got that right 😉.
Firmed up.
Lol, mate dont i know it.
boro was bad whan i went up there 77 , teenage kids v huge mob of grown men ,must admit was the worst i went to , a couple years later ,older wiser , boro was a doddle,leeds i found was easy,stoke ,first time was quite scary ,2nd and third time easy , you can go to a ground one time and it can be bad ,another time easy,i found late 70s early 80s in birmingham,west brom was the worst place i went ,out of birmingham and villa and west brom, everyone had various experiences at different grounds
Wish someone would upload the full documentary called hooligan, this is just a snipit ..Used to have it on tape in the 80s and is still the best doc out there
This wasn't on the Hooligan doc, it was a few years later.
i think you will find that over the years england firms have been all over europe and totally fucked them up, anyway why would we need to travel across europe all you need to do is go to any building site to find em
Derek & Clive
Your comment didn't arf give me the horn
Absolute liberties was correct what a day out but seeing the faces of so many who travelled then looking Young, we had a massive turnout for that one apart from cup finals probley one of the best apart maybe the 2009 Cup game loads of the old faces along with the new ones big mob that night
@DG3744 Nope just like all the other pubs around the ground
Smashed up a few old people's pubs down the OKR but missed the old folks home at the Bricklayers maybe they thought that was just too risky some of them have got walking sticks and Zimmer frames and they can do some real damage
@@michaelharrison3602 100%
@@telmillwall hello fella can I ask about when you come over to Mile end after the game and come in the horn of plenty with 15 west ham fans in it, when our firm was in the fountain pub down the road?
@@sidbroughton8750 that was the same day I was one of the 15 in there and they didn’t come as we were battling for our lives holding the door as it was only a little entrance down the side of the pub all they did was put the windows through and threw a flare through the window but if they would of done their homework and come through the main door at the front we would of got mullered!! The dirty cunts even pushed a woman with a kid in a buggy down the stairs as they came out of Mile End station
If millwall were in the crown and anchor, why didnt they charge out when west ham were in sight, come on we all have spotters of our own, so millwall could have easily ran out and got past police yes???
No... Pub was empty W. H arrived at 11.am or something ridiculous. They got it the following Tuesday night tho. 🦁
@@BarkingLondon It literally says '1.05pm London Bridge' in the video when they get off the tube.
Millwall were in the blue anchor..not the crown and anchor!🙄
@cockneyboywhu
What about our march from Plaistow to your ground? No sign of any west ham trying to get at us.
wot march 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Mad Mike
You where lucky the East Ham taliban never got you.
About what ?
Old bill everywhere
i tottally agree ith you these people fans such as cardiff,stoke leeds,millwall should be banned as they havea core 2000 that cause trouble every game.
West Ham had numbers like Man Utd but we at chels wer different gravy smarter and fearless awaydays wer mad in the 80/90s I couldn't get enough of Chelsea away GATE13 member proud !!
Must be joking, West Ham walked all over Chelsea during the 70s and 80s, we used to take the piss.
We called Chelsea the Man Utd of the South, because they played the numbers game, West Ham never had big numbers.
That year both teams were going for the league, Chelsea tried to be too smart for their own good by getting off at Plaistow and promptly got massacred at the Green Gate pub, or in 1977, got into the North Bank and got battered, even Hicky said some Chelsea guys were so put off by that experience they never went again.
The year you bricked our train at Fulham Broadway, we got out the station, there was only 30 odd of us, you had over 200, you still backed off, started lobbing bottles inside of running at us, everytime we run at your lot you backed off, you should have done us big time, we never even our top guys out.
You always turned up in big numbers v Man CityUtd, or Newcastle, but you only bought a few thousand across London to Upto Park, again Hickey admitted you got well ironed out at a night game during the 80s.
Jason Marriner said though he didn't like to admit, West Ham were a top mob, I can tell you now, travelling on the trains going back forth to away games, when discussing top mobs, Chelsea never came into the conversation, plus Chelsea were shit scared of Millwall, that I know for a fact.
Are you fucking joking ? you had the numbers boosted by your bumchums from Glasgow Rangers hence the reason you travelled well up North as they never had far to go, WEST HAM had numbers here but the main ICF were only around 40 strong in early 80,s but had it with all even though heavily outnumbered, massive turnout here as we came prepared to put the WEST HAM & millwall debate to bed butwell known fact Chelsea & man u always played the numbers game & it was how you got recognised away in the 80,s early 90,s as like us you were in Div 2 & just smashed up little firms, NEVER EVER travelled to upton park though eh, different gravy ? Here's a quote from one of you're own old skool in the Shed End Forum's, ( it seemed like WEST HAM took the Shed every season in the 80,s ) they also quoted took numbers everywhere but never Upton park, all the fans in the Shed would sing if you're all going WEST HAM clap you're hands but never did, GATE 13 smashed it mate along with the Shed ⚒
@@derekduvall6482 i couldn't stop laughing at this clown🤡⚒
They claim back in the 1980s all hooligan were jobless hardly true they were top designer gear. I mean nowadays it's the same
Both times did fight every were millwall deadly but west ham are tough respect both I'm no hooligan just like the clothes they were both dressers and what is ironic is how people take an interest in ex hoolies and they all have jobs and careers thatcher got it wrong
your right but south east london is like mozambique
Oh what and east London doesn't have any immigrants even your street signs are in hindi and Arabic there are no posters saying 'this area is under sharia law ' english women don't get abused and assaulted for not wearing a burqa
@@michaelharrison3602 You really believe that stuff happens 🤣 You're brainwashed mate
Who are the genuin Millwall fans there are always good fans of all teams including Millwall and west ham I never got involved in trouble the only offence Iever did was to swear outside arsenal stadium in eighty five I called the chairman a four letter word I got a ten pound fine at Highbury court and offence at Liverpool when I was sticking up my finger regarding the famous one minute sign after arsenal won the title
I love it as you see the Newcastle Brown Ale Bottle ot 50 seconds!, real beer in a city riddled with fakes!
Newcastle N.M.E. firm (retired!)
Good vid this tho as it shows you the build up to the vid we have all seen with west ham appearing on old kent road!
back in those days it was the real deal, ''cloned island'' didnt even exist!
Its gone now tho, it'll never go back to the way it was!
Stone Island was around from 86/87 onwards... the above footage is 90..
BTP = Camden EDL
wasnt millwalls main boozer the royal archer??, or did they mob up there after 2pm?, im ex Newcastle NME firm, i slipped our escort and walked past it on the day andy cole scored his first away goal, some sinister looking lads in and around there from my memory!!
No. Drank in the Royal Archer opposite the East stand. Benches outside. Your average pub. No top boys or mob drank there.Around 88. Nice pub. Now offices!
Collins save your reply eco punk died 6 years ago r.i.p
@cockneyboywhu Some of the west ham lads who were in the mob in this video have admitted they went to the wrong pub. The pub being smashed in this video had no Millwall in it. You have never taken liberties at Millwall so stop pretending you know all there is to know. Essex boy.
boro was just a grim place with grim people! they were game up there tho! never showed at ours! ever! stoke were always game! never really had any problems at west brom! forest away was always lively! sheff utd too! had a few good uns at geordie,s too back then! more recently, carrdiff bought a decent firm to ours a few years back!
Millwall what
The three you see at the end were millwall, one being a "Top Boy" Those were the days.
The old Kent is now owned mainly by immigrants, all the decent pubs have gone.
AnglOsAxOn2 that was a,s, and g,f west ham
The 3 at the end are Millwall
Trust me I know !
RAVEN AK47 you obviously don’t know a lot then ..... I used to drink with all 3 back in the day ! All 3 at the end are Millwall .... FACT .... and any Millwall on here will tell u the same
RAVEN AK47 clueless? 🤣 coming from the person naming names ... you really are a tit arnt you ... take ya tongue out of he’s arse and do ya homework!! Whatever you say pal 👍🏻 30 years undefeated!!!! 😂😂 gives us a chuckle that one 🤣 Hide n Seek champions
100% 3 at the end are Millwall if you know you KNOW🤷🏻♂️
Your lot done a group of 5 16 to 18 year olds what a result, I see you forgot to mention what happened on the following tuesday night
boo boo
Coppers lost it
no you never you turned up once and got tuned over united came evry year so did boro but you came once.
@wallwayne swansea no they did not i was there you cheecky little pretend jack
I did hear about taxing people gear back in the day .in leic geezer was attacked told to hand over his trainers at knife point to be honest this is very scary.also same town I got slapped wearing a burberry cap I'm no hooligan it was a chavs who did and that's why jealous mentality people have if you got nice clothes had comments about wearing a stone island coat people need to grow up a bit.sorry to say it makes me not like leic
@samtheman180 it were just 1 pole u mug...ever heard of operation fortitude/Station X....do your history
wether we got in the stretford end or not i don't know, but what i do know is we came up to manchester every year from about 76 some times we got turned over some times we did ok, but at least at upton park its still full of real supporters unlike the theatre of prawns
The most violent ruthless organised largest hooligan mob i have ever seen was a west ham mob from the late seventies called the Mile End mob they were ruthless .And ive watched games all over england and countries in europe. And iam not a thug hooligan mug.
The only group’s of 👮♀️ in the things that these two firms were able to do whatever they pleased OMG I have never seen anything like that.
You know that it’s a little fight over the radio’s of the things I only have to say that it’s not excusable or anything you try to excuse the police 👮♀️ I am so surprised that their wasn’t severe casualties and that indeed clearly the only way to say that it’s a really awfully bad policing
I agree with all that shouting it could have turned into a fight
Why do the West Ham fans walk past a packed [with Millwall] Crown & Anchor pub? Instead, they pick on and smash up a very much non-football pub .. the Windsor. Strange, I've never found a west ham fan who can explain the reason behind their avoidance of the C&A. If you're mob handed [numbers in excess of 300 I would imagine] you would have complete control of any pre or post match location, until the OB wrap you up. Good video though, but very dated.
STHLDN why did millwall let West Ham walk through their area with no reply if millwall were there,
@@Cosmetics_Are_Fun because they were too scared to do anything,
They knew we was coming down Wall kept they're distance that day from us
@@Cosmetics_Are_Fun cos they were in the ground, spammers only came near kick off to avoid them Here to help
@@replyingcanbefutile9472 shut up you mug
Sad sad little men fighting over clubs that don’t even like them 😂 the gutter of society
Says SADdam you wouldn't last 2minutes.
Youll notice at 6.40 suddenly West ham dont look so brave as Millwall are fighting the Old Bill to get across OKR
As we were in the pub across by the park that you was MEANT to be coming to and NOT smashing up a Grandads pub.
West ham went down the OKR looking for empty pubs and pensioners to smash up
@@michaelharrison3602 was you at this game by any chance.by your comments you dont sound like you were at all.
Full of shit , millwall always making excuses ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 grow up. Theres time when Millwall had a result against west ham like when you were on the way down to palace and got done in new cross, or when you went to arsenal away and got done at a tube station. But truth is you've had results against us and weve had results against you.
That at 6.40 is just someone caught up in it, we was out in force that day you bottled it big time,there for all to see, your at home where was the South London welcome enough said ⚒
Where’s millwall?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣⚒
Getting chased by Everton
Yeah now Everton getting done by watford h aha
watford The country knows all about it, watford ha
The shame
They're probably in the boozer where they agreed to meet you before your top boys called old bill and told them where you'd be arriving and make sure you were escorted safely to the ground
Didn’t have a police escort from new x gate you div 😂@@michaelharrison3602
@buldic
Ahh the infamous day the Red Army 'took' the whole of Upton Park ... the 'ammers are still smarting to this day.
trying to work out what year this was???? dont matter though!! west ham were the guvnors back then!! no firm could touch us!!
Apart from man utd who took upton park over
And in 78 millwall took major liberties at updown park
Go write another book you seem good at making things up
paolo hewitt 89 we done em 1-0 ince scored for us⚒
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Millwall London team that's won nothing in history
leeds is not the worst i always thought leed sfans were freindly most of them not even the routine who are ya sign on chants thoguh you do have a lot of scummy fans.
at the end of the day, we strolled through your manor we smashed your pubs up i class that as a result as we can only beat whats in front of us, of course it would have been different if your firm was there, but they werent so what could we do
ha ha then did your alarm go off
Jackanory, "smashed yer pubs" up 1 chair through a window of a non wall pub
78 at upton park wall took major liberties in their end
No sign of cass, Also the rose new cross my gofd the icf took one hell of a beating that day
undefeated ha ha
You done fuck all you frightened a few pensioners and threatened women and kids then ran back and hid behind your escort
read the eighties fact guide??? mug
We took over old Kent road that day Millwall no where to be seen ⚒⚒⚒
speak to your old lad who knows that is bollox.. Wall was waiting up the road and vermin attacked a basically empty pub, you either was daft or didnt want to go to where it was lined up for a proper row
@@Vlad-tt9is U knew we was coming to your manner where was u ? I think u was hiding we took the piss that day they're has been other times we have had the better of u lot tit 4 tat over the years
Good and bad in leic like anywhere but it's the way u get stereotypical views about clothes I mean sound a bit silly saying them guys were chavs but I'm not sure if they were.ive seen a bloke dressed in a suit start a bad fight its really all in mind who's dangerous
westham. millwall. chelsea. late 80s. could not touch .man utds away mob. done them all
william reynolds Man Utd have never done Millwall at the den.....never.
@@coniferclose in your dreams son only west ham have tried to take Millwall at the old den no northern clubs have ever tried
True sir ⚒
Spurs had a go at the old den 1977 big firm but got done outside up the lions
Only 1yop firm in them days unbelievable Birmingham city Zulus
I remember that day well, we caught a couple of West ham stragglers outside my scrap yard.
Like a bag of lead, they got weighed in!
Oooh, you're hard
Oooh, you're hard
@@n136h All the ladies say that. Thanks!
No you didn't and you weren't there.
@@matthewsmith6051 Shut it Smithy
You're a bigger melt than a cheesy Breville
between 75 to late 81 west ham brought no one to everton, west ham 1980 scruffest mob i ever saw , half tramp like half skinhead types fred perrys braces and airwear boots, at villa park,and elland rd west ham were nothing special, ill ask my younger bro about 83 ,i was otherwise out the game by then, run our whole side mmm smells like bullshit ,might of ran some ,as everyone does at one time or another
This short play or long play.... short play. vhs. cool.