What’s Caused Reform UK to Decline in the Polls?
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Reform UK seem to be on a downward spiral with controversies surrounding their candidates seem to be never-ending. In this video, we're taking a look at Reform's polling decline, and what this could mean for the party and the Tories on voting day.
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The reason reform was doing well is that all nigel farage needs to do is fart in an empty room and he gets headlines in every news platform
Lol 😂
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How this failure of a politician gets more attention than elected party leaders is utterly beyond me.
When did he do this? There was nothing on social media
Until one of his farts sounded just like "Brek-zit".
There's only 1 poll that matters, doesn't start til tomorrow
Yup, reform will crumble 🤞
@jacobarcher1097 haha yea were all gonna happy under labour of course 😂😂 get ready to pay more tax for the migrants
@@jacobarcher1097Be prepared to be surprised then !
It's technically already started. I voted a week ago.
@@Lisa-xl8qllol unless you're earning 70k plus relax. You prob have a warehouse job.
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them"
😂. This quote is by either some conman or a clown 🤡
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@Epic_Memer_Man its from Mya Angelou. I would say read her books, but it seems like you'll need to google her first.
@@Epic_Memer_Man Marcus Arelius
Polls are all bollocks, wait till Friday.
Are reform going to win then?
One of the actavists said 100 seats 😂😂😂
@@shanghaichica Lets put it this way, Labour are going to win the election no question, but who would you like as the opposition 'holding Labour to account', the previous government who couldn't deliver when they were in power? Or a different party from the usual who happens to share your own views? It will be an interesting election.
Wow. Polls show public opinion seems like someone ain't jolly.
Conservative Party has been a nice party for a long time with people like Winston Churchill
Farage is only known for not having a clear plan
@@shanghaichicadon't bch when labour f up
Alcohol does not make people say homophobic statements; it lowers their social filter and lets them say their true feelings.
eh, its half true, lowers inhibition, but also makes people want to be in the limelight more, thus being more loud, provocative, etc.
They will often say things they dont actually think or care about but think will get attention.
Sometimes its more one or the other, or a mix of the two.
Yes! That was exactly what I was thinking when he said that.
I don't magically become racist or homophobic the moment I've had one too many shots, and I sure as hell hope those around me don't either.
The homophobic comment made was that he didnt there's a place for pride paint jobs on police cars...he had a point, politicising police isn't good
I don't fully agree with this. Acceptable public discourse can change quickly and alcohol can make you forget yourself momentarily.
If you're brought up around bigoted attitudes, then not repeating those attitudes can take constant self-monitoring. Like, if you're in your sixties and what we would now regard as casual homophobia was just an everyday part of conversation for most of your life, I can buy alcohol lowering your inhibitions enough that you forget that this isn't considered OK by mainstream society anymore.
But if you take no responsibility and blame the entire thing on alcohol, that's a big red flag.
@@Kaivalaginiviti The police and the legal system are never truly apolitical. If they were, there would be far more bankers in jail.
Take no notice of Polls. Vote for the Party you want to support.
We vote for MPs. Which party they belong to isn't always important.
Do take notice of the things the party's say.
And the Reform UK Ltd are nasty, evil.
That's not how FPTP works. You have to vote for the candidate with the best chance of stopping the one you don't want.
Tactical voting is the only way
@@dererik9070 "Tactical voting is the only way"
So what is your recommendation for tactical voting? as it is the "only way" you must have direction
Perhaps people have short memories. In 2016 referendum remain in the polls were 10% more than leave. Look who won
No, in the days immediately before the Brexit ref the polls were showing that the Leave side looked like winning. Opinion shifted during the campaign and polls accurately reflected that.
@@carelgoodheir692 What are you talking about, i remember reading about polls the day before the referendum saying Remain was gonna win by a landslide victory, don't try to rewrite history 😂
@@carelgoodheir692 not true you can Google this.
@@carelgoodheir692 YouGov had remain winning 52-48. Populus had remain wining 55-45. Ipsos MORI had remain winning 49-46. And the pound hit $1.50 on results night as traders expected a status quo victory after the results of that on-the-day online poll were announced by YouGov as the polls closed.
The panic started getting underway after the Newcastle and Sunderland results, as frantic traders realised they were exposed to a hell of unexpected risk.
@@rich8642You know there's multiple pills, and the vote was incredibly close?
Same, don't try to rewrite history.
I'm not at all convinced that Reform are tanking. Polls are not consistent.
They certainly 'TANKED'!
@@polaris7122
They really didn't. The political system is rigged to benefit the two main political parties.
A bit of a silly title; Reform has dropped 1-3% in polls that barely even prompt us, and this is a "decline" but Labour has fallen from 42%+ down to around 35% and you're sleeping!
I do not trust Keir Starmer, he try to crush Rishi Sunak just like Macron have done in France with his tounge kissing EU``s ass
Precisely I haven't seen a single person pointing this out that like a 7 to 11% decline since March.
The only few parties I seen rise is Reform and the Lib Dems.
I.e- Crystal Palace dropped from 13th to 15th ,and Man City dropped points but are still 18 points ahead with 4 games to go.
= Ye : "People are sleeping on Palace!".
Rubbish still voting reform I want my independence from Labour and Conservative
a quick look in the charts will tell anyone (who has a brain) that this is a typical volatility... The charts aren't smooth, they are jagged. (I mean, it's a whole different question what kind of idiot can't make up their mind and is chaning their opinion every day but whatever...)
I was really hoping for a Lib Dem lead opposition and conservatives with less than 100 seats. Truly Joever
No more Tories not even the racist spin-off
Even if they don't, the more power third parties have the better off we all will be. Every MP in parliament means more swaying power on bills. We need to get rid of the lab-con divide.
According to the latest mrp poll by electoral calculus lib dems are expected to overtake the tories in terms of seats
Lib dem are far too left now…
@@ndl8722ohhh stop calling EVERYONE racist
They're not "tanking". A few outlier polls put them around 20-21% but they've been consistently around 17% since Farage announced he was running.
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This aged poorly
@@EvdogMusic very!
Reform is not tanking. People who have decided to vote Reform will vote Reform. Polls are estimates on public opinion. A colossal proportion of the UK are voting reform regardless of what some polls say. In fact, some of the people making these statements should be out of a job in a few days.
Exit polls say Reform will disband tomorrow morning. The riddance is good.
Well it's Friday and they haven't done so well according to the exit polls.
Will you tank yourself when Reform tank?
The racists behind Reform will be unemployed and unemployable themselves before too long.
@@eddielash are you watching? So far have beaten the Conservatives in the counts. Reform will beat them but won't be sitting across from Labour in parliament because of the ludicrous way we do politics. Trust somebody like yourself to have a violent outburst to someone who doesn't agree with you. You are the problem.
Probably fairer to say Reform UK have "levelled-off", not "declined".
Most polls still show them around 16-18%; there were two which had them on 21% -- one for the Daily Express, and the other for GB News. And their highest-ever polling was 24%, which was done by that Matt Goodwin for... GB News!
So I think all we've seen here is some outlier polls start to fall-away, and 16-18% being Reform's true-range.
Poll sources:
21% in a poll by Whitestone Insight, fieldwork conducted: 26-27 June. Client: _Mirror Group Newspapers_
21% in a poll by PeoplePolling, fieldwork conducted: 25-26 June. Client: _GB News_
24% in a poll by PeoplePolling, fieldwork conducted: 18 June. Client: _GB News_
UKIP were around 14% in 2015, you may be right there are a lot of people out there trying to cope with Brex1t being a total train wreck that's even increased migration
And if we're going to be fair here:
Labour: 44-47% to 39-42% (from after the GE was called, to the most-recent polls)
Tories: 27-28% to 19-24%
Lib Dems: 9-10% to 10-13%
Greens: virtually no change
SNP: declined significantly (since late 2021); from high 40%s and low 50%s, to 30-34% now. Labour in Scotland is averaging around 35% recently
Are you suggesting that TLDR are not fair and equal?
* Shocked Pikachu face *
@@dftfire This seems likely
If you live in Richmond & Northallerton, make your vote Count (Binface)! 😉
the 4th of july will soon be bindipendance day
If Sunak loses his seat, I will be happy with whatever the final election results are.
@@JustAlex848 thats just naive... sorry - I h8 him too - but there is WORSE out there!
@@gyrovids9462 Naive? I am someone who got no assistance whatsoever from Sunak during Covid, whilst everyone else was getting free money and fraudsters were stealing billions. And then he increased taxes. So I will be very glad to see the back of him, as will millions of others who were forgotten in our time of need.
@@JustAlex848 Yes, Naive! To want ANYTHING else but him, thats naive. You dont blame Boris for BREXIT or the utter mismanagement of the pandemic? Totally NAIVE!
Very misleading title, which is very disappointing coming from a channel that is usually more politically neutral and more focused on truth and education.
I don’t care much about these polls until Thursday night results to know which poll was right.
I wouldn't count on it. People just aren't prepared to say they're voting Reform.
I am and most people I know are too .
This video is bollox
It’s bollocks because it doesn’t support your view? Sums up the far right in this country, only so long before people in this country start shouting “fake news”.
@@Electriclentilman it just shows that TLDR is happy to jump on the MSM bandwagon against a populist party.
@@Electriclentilman What? The people you surround yourself with are similar to you? Crazy!
@@SaintGerbilUKnot sure mainstream is two words. Lol
Don't get too excited - look at the last elections / brexit etc...never underestimate the voting public!
Especially the ones who overestimate themselves and claim to speak for ALL the people.
In this context, I'd say never overestimate them...
Never underestimate the stupidity of the voting public?
@@TheCaffeineKid didn't say that, but you caught my drift 😉
More than half the reform gooners on social media are all bots/paid shills anyway!
Why tf is he looking like mr bean
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True 😂
I wish we could see more smaller and regionalist parties make more gains in the UK elections, like the Greens, Plaid Cymru, the Workers' Party, the Alba Party and the Yorkshire Party. F**k the first-past-the-post system!
but then there are other smaller parties. First past the post keeps us ricocheting between two parties, but it keeps extreme parties from taking hold
It's the most undemocratic system going. It makes me laugh when the Tories and Labour talk about democracy yet they will not entertain PR. They know fully well they will lose seats and that's why they won't introduce it. I think the only way it will ever be introduced is either by The Crown or by overwhelming public opinion.
@@giaximoi You mean keeping parties that actually have ideals and morals from taking hold
@@giaximoi
No it doesn't, all it stops is any party with intent to do significant changes from ever being elected.
Instead you always get a shade of beige, where most things don't change at all and have no intention of really changing.
Yes Greens were mostly Islamist extremist”the radical muslims” you welcome sharia law! UK 🇬🇧 is finished.
The decline in polling could be people just being embarrassed to say out loud they will vote Reform. They only seem to say they vote Reform online.
Almost as if there is a massive silent majority who agree ;)
Reform's polling has "levelled-off", not "declined". Only a few polls had them above 20%; most said 16-18%, which is around where most current polls are this week.
But since the GE was called, to now, Labour, Tories and SNP have all declined too. Only the Lib Dems have also gone-up, and then only from around 9-11% then to 10-13% now. Nowhere near as big a rise as Reform
@@FatMonkeyUK Almost as if the discrepancy between Reform's massive online presence and real world polling shows a lot of bot activity.
Definitely could be a factor. Shy Tories have been a thing in recent elections and it definitely isn’t unreasonable to claim there are Shy Reform voters.
@@FatMonkeyUK It really shows that reform voters just tend to be chronically online...
2014 is not a few decades ago...
Farage claims he's been saying it since the 90's (I haven't seen anyone verify that claim yet).
@@LiveFreeOrDieDH 2014 Russia invaded Crimea - doesnt take a brain to figure the rest out - Farage is a liar... again
this is the FAKE NEWS SITE NUMBERS SHOT UP STOP LYING TLDR NEWS . LIAR AND THE FILTH OF THE UK
Who else is here after Reform was projected to win 13 seats? 🙋♂
Reform polling in:
July 2023- 5% (2 July, Redfield and Wilton)
January 2024- 10% (4-5 Jan, WeThink)
July 2024- 17% (1-3 July, Opinium)
Very interested to hear how this is somehow a decline?
It's a definite decline because the left tell you it is and they don't want to hear any more about it, la la la la la (with fingers in ears)!
It's a decline from a week ago. When elections get close, people tend to hyper-focus on the very, very short term. I think Reform will do quite well, by historic standards, but I don't think the Tories will do so badly that they cease to be relevant, as some are predicting.
@@LiveFreeOrDieDH I don't see how a 200 seat majority for labour is good for them. How many wins can they survive in that case?
It's a decline because the polls had been showing their vote share slowly increasing and recently bringing them to the same level as the Tories. Then, after the recent incidents, they have slightly declined. So they are no longer on the same level as the Tories. It's a small drop, but it's important because before this point, it looked like reform might get more votes than the conservatives.
@@antonkarlsson7664 oh, it's not good at all! I just don't believe, as some have predicted, that the Conservative party will be dead and buried after tomorrow.
the most important thing to know is that prediction is unreliable, especially literally just before the polling day. irrefutably
This is such an uninformed comment. Its what all the dads started saying after the 2015 US-election. It's not even a prediction.
@@melbo897 this ignores that it takes time to collect the data, collate and publish a poll.
I'm sure that happened in less than a day...
That's where you are wrong do some research they are quite accurate
instead of polls check your local areas betting office odds and see what they are saying . The bookie never loses
Can a poll get any more accurate than the day right before?
“Tanking” do me a favour 😂😂
Tanking Up, like Nige with his customary pint.
I know right...
Tanking as the headline then described as slight?
Misinformation to say the least
Reform is the new British Union Party and Farage is its Mosley.
plummeting.
Any time anyone talks about polls I just think back to brexit; remember how sure they were remain would win? Yeah... fuck sake lol
No one remembers that because that didn't happen; all of the polls put it within a 1-5% difference between either side running up to the vote.
Because that’s not what happened
I remember the Brexit vote - I remember polls showing it being about 45-55% each, varying from poll to poll on who would win.
With the vote basically being 49/51 split, the polls were accurate.
I didn't have "UK becomes the last huge stronghold of the left in the West" (or at least the progressives) in my bingo card
doesnt that graph show a labor "tank" bigger than a reform "tank"?
Labour will not gain anymore votes than in previous elections. Just look at the recent by-elections results.
You are referring to a different time period. That period of labor "tanking" was the period where both Reform and Libdem were soaring.
That said, I also think that 'tanking' is mostly an exaggeration, it is pretty much just a few percent changes that might even still be in the margin of error.
Not in relative terms.
If we look at each party from the week after the GE was called, to now, they have averaged:
Labour: 44-47% to 39-42%
Tories: 24-28% to 19-24%
Lib Dem: 9-10% to 10-13%
Greens: virtually no change (5-7% then, and now)
SNP: 3% nationally (though looking at Scotland only: 30-34% there, versus Labour's 35-37%)
@@timothydenyer7749 yes but TLDR are in the tank for Labour so only report negatively on them when they absolutely have to.
Kinda like how Konfederacja was doing so well before the parliamentary elections and then they had too many scandals all at once and the party's support just collapsed from double digits to 7%.
Is that the polish one?
@@20storiesunderyup
@@20storiesunder yeah
They still got 6 seats in the EU elections. More than the left or third way, this is not insignificant
@@potato_nuggetThey also did best with young voters. Over 30% of young voters voted for them. Making them number 1 in the young age group.
looks like this aged well
TLDR trying not to be bias challenge : impossible
Literally everyone has biases. You might as well have said “TLDR trying not to metabolise oxygen challenge: impossible”.
Translation: “They stated facts I don’t agree with so that makes them bias”
What did they say that was false?
They support LibDems.
The same reason that UKIP declined. Different party name, same leader, same problem.
UKIP declined because of Gerard Batten not Nigel.
Ukip declined after Farage left them stupid. He then formed the Brexit Party that won the European elections a few months later beating both the Conservatives and Labour and becoming the biggest political party in the European Parliament.
Nigel left, to many racists (lolling). He will leave Reform for dead soon enough after he wins clacton.
@@captainnice1881 UKIP declined because Farage endorsed a Lib Dem Remainer to lead the party (Henry Bolton). The party stabilised under Gerard Batten, Farage comes out of the woodwork to create the Brexit Party (composed of Tories), it finally destroys UKIP and its Tories go straight back to the Tory party. Farage is a saboteur. Recall that he was poised to lead UKIP as the real conservative party, the real party of the labour force after Brexit... and sodded off to do a radio show. Leaving zero pressure on the Tories to fulfil their promises. Don't revise history. Batten came out against Islam nearly a decade before Farage started to have the balls to.
We'll see if Reform have declined tomorrow!
Yeap let's see what the silent majority think.
@@TheWebstaffracist minority
@@TheWebstaff I wish you losers were silent, reform voters never shut up
@@badgerboy4448you’re definitely an illegal immigrant in the UK
@@TheWebstaffsilent? The noisy idiots won't shut up
I don't know what has happened on this channel as up till this piece it was normally pretty balanced out and the articles well researched. This came across as more of a hit piece disguised in their usual delivery style/format. I would have thought they would have had a look at the drop in the Labour and Conservative numbers at the same time to give it a better balance.
Not really. You just think it is because it's not information you like.
What do you really expect when they get most of their information from the BBC, SkyNews, and The Guardian. It's also right before the election, so they probobly want to spook as many potential reform voters as possible.
A hit piece on Reform. You've let yourselves down.
It's not a hit piece, they've given others similar treatement. But I agree, their election coverage this whole time has been sensationalist for clicks and jumping on pretty small trends.
Everyone saying the polls don't matter are being very short-sighted. While the polls don't directly affect the election result, they do have a real influence on how the parties behave in light of those polls. YOU may not care what the polls say, but the parties absolutely do.
Only a few polls have them losing support most polls still have them at 18 to 19 percent of the vote also a slight dip in polls at this point probably won’t change much
Oh dear!
New poll today puts them at 20%.. tanking? Really?🤔
Hmm... 16-17% is the average of most of the polls from this week.
A Survation one from Monday had them on 11%; a Lord Ashcroft one had them on 18%. The one you're citing was by PeoplePolling for GB News, so we could perhaps expect it to be a little-higher 😉
@@dftfire Does the B in GB stand for Bolshevik?
@@Mrc172 Sigh 🙄, not this tired old line again. Didn't Farage, Banks and the various Leave sides literally go to court in the UK over claims they were Russian-funded and it was found to be untrue?
And it's ironic that Galloway _literally_ used to present a show on Russia Today, and no-one mentions that now! 🤔
No they don't. No reliable polls say that high
@dftfire GB news is basically Nigel Farage's bitch
As someone who is nonpartisan this is an exciting election. I've always been a floater, voted for Thatcher but only once, Blair but only once as I become disillusioned with both. I suspect all Reform will do is split the Tory vote and give Labour an even bigger majority than they would have had anyway. Tomorrow we'll know if I'm right, if I'm wrong I will be happy to admit it.... Unlike most politicians. Lol!
Maybe because they've got a complete top hat as a leader?
Is it a combination of racism, political naivety and no discernable policies to help society?
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A vote for a third party is a vote for ending the labour - conservative divide.
Not under FPTP it's not
Only if it doesn't result in a nationally traumatic disaster. I'm not going to vote to legalize letting leopards eat people's faces.
Maybe if you do it tactically. If you can, for example, use vote swapping to vote for third parties in safe seats where they have no chance in exchange for voting for Labour in a competitive seat where it could go either way, that could result in, say, the Greens doing well enough in safe seats to seriously rattle the system while avoiding splitting the vote. It requires coordination but it can be done.
@@johnd2058 the whole point is so that your voice is heard. In a divided lab-con system, we end up losing more than it's worth. We don't have a system worthy of giving us accurate information based on how people vote. Not only that, but people are forced to vote for the party they think will win. The voting system doesn't work. Proportional representation is better.
Voting for just two parties will end with two bad parties
>one percent margin of error
>reform are TANKING
thanks guys
I really hope that Farage keeps up his track record of becoming an MP.
You must be disappointed.
Enjoy 🏆🤣
they didnt tank or decline. , In some polls they have increased or just in the state of neither decline or growth, the party membership has increased. I dont think the polls are being accurate. So theres no way of knowing if im honest.
If they were being fair, they should note how the Tories and Labour have also both seen their poll-averages decline since when the election was called, to now; and the SNP has crashed massively since late 2021.
But oddly we only focus on Reform (who are still averaging around 16-18%, and only got above 20% in a few outlier polls)! 🤷🏻♂
@@dftfire ikr!!
@@dftfire , they show graphics that show just that... in this very video... when was the last time you got your prescription checked?
Did everyone just sort of remember who they’re dealing with?
Even if you’re right leaning this is the man who spent the entire brexit campaign making promises then the literal day after it happened he was on the news saying he couldn’t guarantee 350m to the NHS and it was “a mistake to say that”
it baffles me to. this is the man that lied to them on countless occasions, trying to get the people to vote for a fairy tale Brexit (lie) and afterwards it ended up being a clusterf*ck that will hurt the British people for years to come.
but here we are, once again this man tells people what they want to hear and they once again forget common sense and fall for it once again.
I honestly don't understand the hypnotising effect Farage has on some (mostly older) people. It's as if when he speaks, reason switches off in their brains and they're just poised ready to willingly lap up everything he spews, even though he's been caught lying and exaggerating over and over again.
@@CountScarlioniSame as Trump. Grifters.
@@CountScarlioni
It's media's fault.
They allow likes of them to grow. Like CNN/MSNBC/etc, who are now campaigning for trump because Biden stuttered in the debates. Everything to over sensionalize the news, I guess.
He is the biggest snake oil salesman in politics.
"Why are they tanking?!" Um... they're not?
I’m interested to see how this video sits tomorrow. Exit polls are already showing reform massively outperforming polls.
Predicting Putin's behaviour does NOT mean supporting him.
Surely saying Ukraine should not look to the West because it might aggro Russia is squarely within the defintion of supporting Putin since it aligns with his aims?
It would be risible, considering the fact all far right figures in Europe share the same views as Putin on many topics, such as disdain for human rights and the rule of law, hate for NATO, hate for anything 'woke', to claim that their apparent support for Putin on the Ukraine matter ( including repeated calls for Ukraine to give up its right to self-determination and surrender to Russia) is not, in fast, support...
He's a Putin sympathiser. He is not standing up enough against Russia after they have invaded a neighbouring country in a land grab (twice). This is also a battle of autocratic larger neighbour bullying a small democracy. This will prevent many from supporting reform so its his loss.
Putin praised Farage's comments. Russians financed the Brexit campaighn and still continue tp employ bot farms.
Sure but Farage does also support Putin he just can't openly say that yet so instead he praises Hitler's leadership style and how Putin operates. Very carefully dancing round the edge while signalling to his voters that he will turn the UK into a dictatorship if given the chance
Spot on, media trying to spin a narrative
That's such a small dip. Don't think one can read that much into polls. Sometimes they get it wrong
Tories and labour are both bad options
I knew I disliked reform, then I read through their manifesto. Sure, there are a couple of good points in there. But the majority of points completely terrify me as a young, left leaning, lgbt woman
You are a woman In what way is your sexual orientation of any relevance to this topic?
@@geoffreypickard8062 Because Reform plan to restrict LGBT rights
I wouldn’t say it’s tanking it’s just levelling out to where it is ultimately going to be around 15-17% the extra percentages up to 20% will have been tories trying to scare the leadership but will ultimately vote conservative at the election
It's tanking too many reform staff went mask off on that c4 undercover
I still think many Tories just won't bother, the Con tax scare is reaching a pathetic level of nonsense
Yes, most recent polls have been in the 16-18% range.
There have been a few outlier polls which gave them 20 or 21%, and one for GB News which had them at 24%. But if we treat those as outliers, then of the polls published this week, one has them on 11%; four on 16%; and one on 18%.
I think the point is they had a relatively high ceiling at about 24% if they campaigned well. But they didn't campaign well and really the only momentum they gained was when farage returned. Since then they've done nothing right and the polling shows that. They could have been an alternative to the Tories and even tempted Labour voters across. But instead they just proved themselves to be a party of crazies and in support of Putin. That obviously has a much smaller target demographic
I would have voted for conservatives but there is not a chance, it just doesn't make sense, they hate young people so the only party I can turn to in the far right is the Reform party.
Plus their opinions line up closer to mine rather than the conservatives, I think we need to build more houses and not introduce a 1% mortgage deposit scheme which is pure utter trash
I think it's those who were coming over from the Tories realising that their vote was a bit of a waste as it wasn't actually going to translate to seats so they've reverted back due to fear of the Labour landslide
This is proof that our voting system is wrong and shouldnt have to be used this way. It needs reform otherwise we are never going to get truly represented
I'm still voting Reform, A labour landslide with push the far right vote harder than ever next election.
Labour already landslided ages ago because of the Tory failure. A vote for Tories is completely wasted. They might not even exist after this...
I doubt it because they must know that they cannot prevent Labour from winning and that is entirely their own fault.
@@24yrukdesigner They will exist. They will get 100 + seats.
lmfao they didnt even get 10 seats, common nigel farage fail
Because bots can't vote.
reform placards are absolutely everywhere where i live. our reform candidate's leaflet was full of facebook conspiracy theories about vaccines and climate change and the 15 minute cities stuff ?? very worried about him winning
Proof?
@FatMonkeyUK his name is Alex Stevenson, his leaflet is probably online somewhere
Ouch, sorry to hear it.
@@buttershy_ you mean like conspiracies that the vaccine doesn't stop transmission, which 2 vaccines have now stated?
Or that 2 vaccines have been withdrawn as products by their manufacturer due to the side effects, they previously denied?
I’m so sorry that you live in such an intolerable area
Reform getting 3 times more hits on social media than the other parties everyday they trending on X Farage has got 14 million likes and one video got 8 million views on tiktok I think writing them off is a mistake.
They know how well they are really doing, this video is to smear reform as they're scared
Just Google likes 4 you. 50k views costs as little as £125 Likes are even cheaper.
There's dozens of faux supports on here and auto posting settings on the Reform UK page. Where the same messages are posted over and over. One comment had 1.2k likes in less than 5 mins but the video only had 400 views at that point?
Social media hits are not the same as votes!😅
Putin's trolls are working overtime.
That should tell you only how much Farage is being promoted by Russian disinformation agents and hackers
First past the post is a terrible system basically designed to entrench the two party electoral system. I'm from Australia and we have preferential voting, there are plenty of things that aren't done well here but the voting system is still far better than most other democratic states. If you're further left or right of one of the two major parties you can give your first preference to the protest party but still preference one of the major parties above the other major party so you don't waste your vote.
Vote Reform
I'm convinced 99% of comments saying simply 'Vote Reform' are botted. No other party has this copy and paste format throughout social media like reform has, ofc I'm not accusing you of not being real, rather noticing a pattern
All hail the Dalek Empire!
Someone owes nigel some special favours 😄
No
I wanna point out something that could be video worthy.
Why the Tories are doing so badly in the deep south, my area (Surrey) is normally polling 30% ahead of the candidates however even my home constituency has a 3 way race with Labour, Lib Dems and the Tories with Labour very narrowly ahead
Do you also support Manchester United?
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence
Wut?
Mole Valley here. Devout Tory area, but our MP (Paul Beresford) recently retired, so it will be interesting to see who will win. I expect we'll get a Conservative again, but it would be nice if the Lib Dem got it.
Vote LibDems!!!!
I don’t support reform at all.
However, saying it’s implausible that Channel 4 or their rival political parties wouldn’t stoop as low as paying someone to say those things is ridiculous
It’s absolutely something they’d do if they felt threatened enough.
Or maybe a politician with a history of telling huge lies needs to present some kind of evidence alongside the claim or else it's completely implausible.
Thank you for tracking the polls. However the thumbnail stating 'Tanking' suggests a much more aggressive decline which is not the case.
Khan has a future christmas day present lined up for electric car owners, how thoughtful of him
Really? looks like Labour are tanking from that graph 🧐
Labour: 44-47% (in the weeks after Rishi called the election) to 38-42% now (past couple of weeks), yes
Tories similar decline, to be fair
Last poll today Reform were at 20% so this video means fark all.
An actor with "rough speech" and "secret filiming" on his CV just so happens to be the one person secretly filmed speaking roughly by a channel 4 shell production company...
Yeah channel 4 is facing legal trouble because of it potentially under grounds of election interference.
Imagine waking up july 5th and seeing labour in charge. Will the last person leaving the country turn the lights off. VOTE REFORM GB
“People turn nasty when they’ve had a drink”
Normal people don’t🤣
The kinds of people he hangs around, and his supporters probably do turn nasty to be honest. Well, not “turn” nasty, but say stuff they really mean without fear of being challenged.
Leftists are nasty whether drunk or not.
I love everybody when I am drunk :D
Happy drunk lol
Why can you never pronounce peoples names properly? I’ve never heard anyone say Sunak like “sernack”
Absolute rubbish reform is the only vote
Labour landslide!
I don't turn nasty when im drunch nigel. I just hug my dog more
I needed to read a wholesome comment this morning, thank you 🐕
Sounds nasty to me. Have you asked for the dog's consent? Absolutely vile
are you drunch right now?
You hug your dog when you're drunk? are you sure that's all you do?
@@mixandmatch5138 Ay, behave now!
Vote reform it's that simple
No
No
No one that votes Tory or for Brexit will be voting for Labour. We will still have at least a 52% lead.
Funny how some, despite trying hard to come across as impartial, still want to defend the 2 big useless parties.
8:10 I don’t understand how the claim about the actor for channel for is implausible. The dude has verified himself that he lied about being an actor, he offers undercover filming services on his page, the voice he was using in the undercover footage was not his real voice and was instead an impression that he also advertises on his page (so he was in character) and then it turns out he’s literally worked for channel 4 before. I don’t think it’s completely implausible and it’s seriously hurt his campaign
Dude, it's a conspiracy theory that suggests a major news channel is being controlled by political operatives. It's straight out of the Trump/Republican playbook of attacking media integrity when they catch you red-handed. It's just another of Farage's excuses, like suggesting the Reform MP who resigned was a Tory plant, anything but confront the truth. Take a look at the Sky News interview with the activist - he says he was goaded by the C4 team.
And he’s being photographed working for reform weeks before…. Oh that doesn’t support Nige the victim conspiracy theory, just forget it.
He has been campaigning for Deform since April. Farage was able to brush off the horrid statements made by his supporters in the video cause he knew they’d lap up whatever he said
@@Tannhauser62 The candidates who resigned are obvious plants. Everything about the timing and their statement to vote Conservative is so obvious. The lady who resigned has a Daily Mail article about her from 2017 to publically pressure the father of her love-child for money. She’s a slithery operator for financial gain. Even as Tice explained their enthusiasm for running stood out, while they had no communication with the rest of the party at all afterwards. Their resignations were strategically timed to muddy the news surrounding Reform in the last week before voting and of course if you hate Reform, including the BBC who have a financial reason to do so you are going to eat that story up and promote it without any display of the suspicious elements. The other Reform candidate had said he was offered financial incentives to step aside back in May.
Facts
The You Gov poll is owned by Sky correct? Ok then.
Wrong
@@blueboy3990 Ok I'm wrong? So who owns You Gov then?
@@Rachel-ht3rf it's on the stock exchange, so it has many owners, the largest is Liontrust Asset Management PLC at 8.4%
Tory Zahawi was one of its founders.
@@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098 So there is potential bias there?
6 million votes says it all well done reform wow
Well, this didn't age well.
Yeah they really dominated mate… 😂
4 seats 😂
looks like this aged well
Disappointed you said "seriously unplausible" about the actor for channel 4, and failed to mention any of the reasons Nigel suspects him to be fake. Reasons which are completely plausible btw.
A man who is well spoken yet chose to speak in one of his acting voices as shown on his acting profile? A man who has worked for channel 4 before? A man who on his profile states he specialises in undercover filming? And he just so happens to end up with the undercover camera crew saying stuff like all mosques should be turned into weatherspoons? I think its actually ludicrous to believe it's anything but an act.
It was quite surprising how they completely glossed over and dismissed this
TLDR is being payed for let's be honest it went from a snazzy online video fair to all sides to now just a mouth peace for the upper class and Islington left sadly
Shame really because when the Chanel started it was a serious contender in the online space
I still like to check in though as the lads are fair even if completely biased and overlook glaring facts that go against there narrative
But still support independent media 🎉❤
because hes been a supporter of nigel's 3 parties for a decade maybe? cry more cupcake
Delicious Reform tears😂😂 Keep coping
@@rrakkuu reform don't need to cope , even one seat is a miracle....however the Labour majority 🙄 that is some cope right there, less a majority more an implosion and no-one to really get in the way...also most reform voters are ex Labour up north
MSM have turned on him to try make sure the Tories aren't completely wiped out
Good. I would even tactically vote Tory if it meant keeping Reform out, and I despise the Tories.
@@tonyb9735Tony is why our country is on course to face a brain drain.
Oh MM. Mainstream Media. No S. But, yeah, you're correct 💯
@@captainnice1881 if you think that Reform will somehow prevent that then I can only assume that your brain has already gone down the drain.
They are a private limited company, wholly owned by multimillionaires pushing a populist right wing agenda. Unless you are already very wealthy they will not act in your interests. Quite the opposite.
Look at what Farage promised over Brexit.
Look at the reality of Brexit.
Don't be fooled again. He is still peddling simple solutions to difficult problems. Are you actually incapable of learning?
@@captainnice1881 His brain has already drained.
Who cares...?
Vote Reform
I imagine a lot of people who say theyll vote reform dont end up going to the polling station in the end.
i dont like farage but when he was on question time and not one reform suporter was a bit strange and showed bbc at their bias best
By asking questions?
They will surprise the polls
When "from here it only rose further" only means "from here not only rose further but also declined again". Most goodest Englishing!
Is it because everyone who wanted to vote for them forgot to register ?
You love to see it. Bad candidates aside, he was always going to lose support with his stance on Russia.
His stance on Russia made me support him more. It makes complete sense. Did you listen to the full clip of what he said or just read the headlines?
He's not a warmonger like your NATO masters
Try reading beyond the headline. Whatever you think of him (and I’m not particularly a fan tbh) it was pretty blatant how the media spun what he said, I pretty much agree with Farage on the Russia thing. He’s not excusing his actions by any means.
@@jommydavi2197Everyone that joined nato joined by choice. Can you say the same for Crimea?
@@savirahyeyes but the point Nigel makes is that we knew what type of man and ruler Putin was and is still today yet we continued to poke and give him fuel to ignite his war. Its like seeing a grizzly bear in the woods and instead of staying clear u walk right up to him and expect him not to attack
It will be funny if Farage best chance gets scuppered by idiots of the party 😂
It will be funny, but there's an implication there that the party has other components.
You are a lot of idiots not to realise the Tories have planted fake Candidate in the Reform Party and the Vetting Company that delegates let Nigel down with the vetting. This was another dirty trick Campaign by the Tory Party and the vetting Company who have worked and vetted for the Tory Party. This was a deliberate dirty trick Campaign it!s Bern proved the Candidates are from the Tory Party. Wake up.
Boris said exactly the same thing as Nigel said about the ukraine Russia War. Nothing said about Boris saying the same thing. Nigel was right. The West has provoked the WAR. THE EU extending NATIONAL further toward Russia. Sending money to Ukraine and weapons.
Yeah your so funny it's unreal ?
It'll serve him right. Those are the morons that bolstered his party's numbers in the first place!
@@Soilfood365 It does. There's also chancers and opportunists.
Why does anyone still look at the Polls. Crap broadcasting media is always going on about Polls and personalities instead of the issues.
Vote Reform UK
I am so glad I did my own due diligence before I watched this video.
Hardly dropping quite the opposite stop the reverse psychology
reform is a great party untill you think about it and the longer you think about it the worse it gets
This rubbish will not work people know this is a pointless story, they cant have declined yet, they have never had a result yet.
I already voted for Reform regardless of all the BS
8:15 Channel 4 engaging in election interferance is a big accusation but not "seriously implausible". The Alf Garnet canvasser in question is in fact an actor, has experience with undercover work, worked with channel 4 and lists "rough/cockney" (what he sounds like on the video) as one of the accents he can put on. All of this is on his website. I would say it is 50/50.
Surely we will know for-sure soon based on if he gets arrested or not?
If those are his true-views, and he wasn't acting, then they break the law and he will be arrested. If he was "acting", and they aren't his true-views, then he won't be, and will claim that as his defence. 😉
@@dftfire allegedly he turned up with two strangers in his car (who turned out to be the journalists), and the trio tried to goat other party members into saying something inflammatory. After failing consistently, they then "captured" footage of him saying bad things, in his acting accent. It's an open and shut case IMO. But, this is politics, there will never be an official investigation, but that doesn't mean nothing happened.
My reply, adding context, was silently deleted. Allegedly the actor turned up with two others (from the channel) and all three tried to get negative clips from other members. When they couldn't, they instead recorded some lines from the actor and published that.
0:13 no mention of Labour’s vote share tanking??
Nah ignore the 10% they’ve dropped since the start of the year and focus on the maximum 4% they could have lost. Ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous, it's just not an interesting story in itself (and simply not what this video is about). It's a normal thing to happen in the run-up to the election that the frontrunners lose some of their lead, and it doesn't change that we're looking at a Labour landslide. The flip side of it - the Lib Dem spike - is much more interesting. And a dip in Reform (or not) is also interesting: a potential 4% dip is huge when the question is whether Reform will beat the Tories in vote share.
There are a lot of extremely sensitive Reform supporters in this comment thread.
@@Esponer no.
Why are they not commenting on the reasons people are turning away from Labour. That is very interesting. What caused them to lose 10%?
What they are doing now is typical politics. Make it feel like there is a consensus that reform are not worth voting for, so that people don’t vote for them. Make it seem like no one else is.
This is used all of the time across the world in elections. Famously in Mexico they cheated by rigging it so it looked like the party were winning when they actually weren’t, so that people would not bother to vote.
You may think people are sensitive but that’s only because we are aware of the crap that goes on. Because it is only ever attacking anti-establishment politicians.
I’m glad Corbyn wasn’t elected in the end but it even happened to him too. It’s not a ‘left or right’ thing.
You’re doing some great defence by arguing that a drop of 10% for a consistent time period is less interesting, and isn’t considered ‘tanking’, but Reform losing maximum 4% in the span of week is.
Polls are consistently wrong. The media give them far too much credibility because they need headlines.
I don’t think it’s fair to write off an inside job for the campaigners. Too many coincidences and irregularities with it to make such a definitive comment on it.
Usually quite good at keeping your biases out of the reporting, feel like you let one slip here which is disappointing.
Definitely, it’s all very fishy with this reporting. The mainstream media are vey lack lustre in scrutiny to these acts
If you weren't mentally twisting and contorting to make unrelated dots join up, you'd immediately realise how stupid this whole conspiracy theory is.
In order to embed the "plants", Channel 4 would have to have known Farage was returning to lead Reform causing a surge in their support before he'd actually done it. And since even Richard Tice had no idea Farage would do that, it's a non-starter. Then there's the factor that C4 would have to pay someone to willingly obliterate their own personal reputation on TV. Frankly, no one's going to do that as no amount of money would be worth it. Besides, surely a paid plant wouldn't use their real, traceable identity!? Not to mention the 7 levels of s**t that would descend on the corporation if they were found to have faked the whole thing. Not only would a 40 year record of broadcasting excellence in news journalism be obliterated overnight, they'd likely lose their broadcast licence over it and obviously that's simply not worth it to sting a minor functionary within a minor UK party.
Frankly there's no need to bother stitching Reform up. There's so many racist flies buzzing around the party's stench of bigotry that the act of finding and catching a few is bloody easy. Reform stitched themselves up by not working harder to swat them themselves.
Yeah this kind of turned me away from tl;dr news a bit
Far right party has far right fuckheads in it, who’d have thought…
Pretty good at keeping their biases? I saw through them years ago...