Thx for sharing this video. Just a few hours ago I was reunited with my old 400A. I purchased it in 1986. Glad to have it back in the rotation. Solid, dependable and cool.
I purchased one of the 400A stoves in 1991 , no pre-heat but still worked great in winter. It has cooked hundreds of meals and I carried it everywhere with me until I watched your videos about alcohol stoves.... thankyou for all the help in making my pack weigh less , thankyou for all your hard work in making these videos.
I still have my Peak 1 400, bought at Mountain Coop in Calgary or Vancouver in 1980. I haven't used it in years other than to fire it up to see if it still works, which it does. This used to be considered a very lightweight stove, though it weighs about 2 lbs with a 3/4 full tank and a full fuel bottle. What I liked about it was its reliability and flexibility - you could boil a pot of water at full blast inside of 3 minutes, or turn it right down to a bare simmer. I got the boxy aluminum cookpot and lid with potgripper - which contained the stove and held a liter or so of water. I used it for winter camping in the Rockies, and some long-distance hikes. A great little stove, and a memento of my younger days. I've never completely understood the trend towards disposable gas canisters. Not very environmentally conscious, and useless in winter.
Disposable canister stoves are cheaper to manufacture, lighter to ship (allowing foreign manufacture), and the canisters allow a constant revenue stream on the "printer ink" business model. All translates to more profit for Coleman and coleman retailers. Coleman doesn't even manufacture these small gas stoves any more except for special editions or military procurement bids. The stores are not offered them to sell and would prefer to sell the propane ones anyways (more disposable product means more profit long term). As such propane stoves have been pushed on the consumer. The consumer mostly does not mind as most are seasonal outdoors people and will not camp if it is below 0C, and honestly would rather buy a cheap stove and expensive fuel, than the other way around - since most people don't camp more than a few weeks or days a year.
Thanks for sharing! Not the lightest choice to pack around with but toughness and quality is hard to beat. I love Coleman GPA's, in fact I have a modest collection of Coleman lanterns, stoves, etc. Coleman is from my home town, been there numerous times and my dad worked for Coleman in the 70's.
Cool collection of Peak 1 stoves. I have a Peak 1 Model 400A that I bought in 1987, sitting on my desk, it still runs very well. I also still have and use the Sigg fuel bottle I bought with the stove, I added a gray fuel dispensing cap to the bottle, as well. The bottle and stove have lots of character with dents and scratches on both. I've backpacked a lot of miles with these Items and your video has brought back good memories of the past, well done! ピーク1ストーブのクールなコレクション。 私は1987年に買ったPeak 1 Model 400Aを持っていて、私の机の上に座っていて、それでもまだうまく走っています。 私はまだストーブで買ったSigg燃料ボトルを持っていて、ボトルには灰色の燃料ディスペンスキャップを付けました。 ボトルとストーブには、両方に凹みや傷があります。 私はこれらのアイテムでたくさんのマイルをバックパッキングして、あなたのビデオは過去の良い思い出を戻しました。
kit chang, the fuel dispensing cap I have was manufactured by Olicamp but it is no longer in production. Have a look on eBay (eBay us) has a custom fuel dispensing cap by SIGG up for sale. It is different than the model I have, though.
this video shows the REAL correct way to light and operate the Coleman Peak 1 400a stove. Unfortunately, no English, but watch VERY closely. Most people make mistakes by turning the red fuel lever to full open when lighting. Then, fuel leaks from the generator and the stove catches on fire. This video shows the correct procedure where the fuel lever is only open half-throttle when lighting, then opened up after the generator has warmed up. Leave it to the Japanese to follow directions exactly and get it right.
Not so much. The REAL correct way is printed on the side of the stove at 0:48 and in the manual. There are different models in this series. They LOOK like the same stove, but they are not. Some have different generators, fuel/air tubes, and main valves. There are models that have a main valve that has LIGHT straight down and RUN fully out. This isn't one of those. Follow the instructions for your particular model. Most folks screw it up by nursing the valves when the instant lighting sequence REALLY needs the highest flow rate to atomize the fuel properly and avoid flaring. That happened here. Some folks open the valve before they light their match or lighter and have it held to the burner. That happened here. Some folks wait until they hear is spit. Too late, generator is already flooded. Some folks don't immediately start adding pressure as soon as it lights and that hinders atomization. That KINDA happened here, but I think he gave it 60 pumps initially. From initial light to ready to cook should be about 30 seconds under normal conditions. Some folks preheat the generator with a torch. That's fine, but not necessary if you follow the instructions. Some folks have an old stove with a wallowed out, now oversized gas tip. But most of all, the majority of folks simply don't understand how instant lighting works and freak out at the first yellow flash. What most of these mistakes cause is an instantly flooded generator before they even light their match. It only takes a second to flood it. A lot of his errors were masked here by putting apparently 60 pumps in the tank instead of the instructions 25 followed by 30 after it lights. I don't have a problem with that since it appears the he didn't fill it with much fuel, so lots of extra space to pressurize, along with the fact that it's not possible to dangerously over pressurize Coleman products using the built in pump. Tanks samples from each lot were randomly destructively hydro tested. If the test tank failed before reaching 500psi, the lot was scrapped. This was light years from a horrible light up. But it wasn't the REAL correct way, either. Bottom line for all Coleman instant lighting gasoline appliances is pressure and high flow rates are essential to clean startups. The reason is the fuel/air tube needs high flow to act as the carburetor that it really is when cold. Throttle the flow and you kill fine atomization of fuel. I don't tell people what to do. I only advise them how to get the best most consistent results based on the instructions the engineers who designed them wrote. They were sharp cats who knew their stuff. What individuals do with that information is up to the individual. Most folks try it and are shocked how well it works. A significant number of folks dig in their heels and refuse to even try because that's just who they are. Or maybe that's how their grandpa taught them and they think I'm launching a personal attack on their departed patriarch, rest his soul. I am not. I'm wrong 3 times before my first cup of coffee every day. I try to learn something new every day. I hate being wrong about things but I'm man enough to admit when I am. Feel free to ask questions, comment, correct, complain, insult or whatever. I'm a big boy with a thick skin. If I have a booger hanging out of my nose, I want you to let me know. Both literally and figuratively. But make no mistake. I post comments to HELP people, and I know what I'm talking about on this subject. Do I know it all. Hell no. But I'm trying to. Because poor lighting procedures and failure to follow instructions had led to the near extinction of liquid fueled Coleman products. And that's a damn shame. Have a super week.
Next time start this stove by barely pushing the on switch. Have it on a small simmer to start it, and leave it on a simmer for a minute to prevent those high yellow flames.
It's a multi fuel but you have to switch the delivery system depending on white gas or alcohol. Can use gasoline to if needed. The one I have is different it was the first Peak One model that has a pump to pressurize the tank.
Thx for sharing this video. Just a few hours ago I was reunited with my old 400A. I purchased it in 1986. Glad to have it back in the rotation. Solid, dependable and cool.
I purchased one of the 400A stoves in 1991 , no pre-heat but still worked great in winter.
It has cooked hundreds of meals and I carried it everywhere with me until I watched your videos about alcohol stoves.... thankyou for all the help in making my pack weigh less , thankyou for all your hard work in making these videos.
Yea! both 400A and alcohol stoves are fun
I still have my Peak 1 400, bought at Mountain Coop in Calgary or Vancouver in 1980. I haven't used it in years other than to fire it up to see if it still works, which it does. This used to be considered a very lightweight stove, though it weighs about 2 lbs with a 3/4 full tank and a full fuel bottle. What I liked about it was its reliability and flexibility - you could boil a pot of water at full blast inside of 3 minutes, or turn it right down to a bare simmer. I got the boxy aluminum cookpot and lid with potgripper - which contained the stove and held a liter or so of water. I used it for winter camping in the Rockies, and some long-distance hikes. A great little stove, and a memento of my younger days. I've never completely understood the trend towards disposable gas canisters. Not very environmentally conscious, and useless in winter.
Disposable canister stoves are cheaper to manufacture, lighter to ship (allowing foreign manufacture), and the canisters allow a constant revenue stream on the "printer ink" business model. All translates to more profit for Coleman and coleman retailers. Coleman doesn't even manufacture these small gas stoves any more except for special editions or military procurement bids. The stores are not offered them to sell and would prefer to sell the propane ones anyways (more disposable product means more profit long term). As such propane stoves have been pushed on the consumer. The consumer mostly does not mind as most are seasonal outdoors people and will not camp if it is below 0C, and honestly would rather buy a cheap stove and expensive fuel, than the other way around - since most people don't camp more than a few weeks or days a year.
Thanks for sharing! Not the lightest choice to pack around with but toughness and quality is hard to beat.
I love Coleman GPA's, in fact I have a modest collection of Coleman lanterns, stoves, etc. Coleman is from my home town, been there numerous times and my dad worked for Coleman in the 70's.
Nice tribute to this legendary stove.
Cool collection of Peak 1 stoves. I have a Peak 1 Model 400A that I bought in 1987, sitting on my desk, it still runs very well. I also still have and use the Sigg fuel bottle I bought with the stove, I added a gray fuel dispensing cap to the bottle, as well. The bottle and stove have lots of character with dents and scratches on both. I've backpacked a lot of miles with these Items and your video has brought back good memories of the past, well done!
ピーク1ストーブのクールなコレクション。 私は1987年に買ったPeak 1 Model 400Aを持っていて、私の机の上に座っていて、それでもまだうまく走っています。 私はまだストーブで買ったSigg燃料ボトルを持っていて、ボトルには灰色の燃料ディスペンスキャップを付けました。 ボトルとストーブには、両方に凹みや傷があります。 私はこれらのアイテムでたくさんのマイルをバックパッキングして、あなたのビデオは過去の良い思い出を戻しました。
where can I buy the fuel dispensing cap? thank you
kit chang, the fuel dispensing cap I have was manufactured by Olicamp but it is no longer in production. Have a look on eBay (eBay us) has a custom fuel dispensing cap by SIGG up for sale. It is different than the model I have, though.
I still have one of those stove and i still use it till now on my camping. 😊 2023
Excellent video. Many owner of the Coleman Peak 1 400A do not know how to light them with pre-heating and they leak fuel and catch on fire.
They basically have the same burner as the 533 without the second adjustment the 400 can use unleaded gas too
this video shows the REAL correct way to light and operate the Coleman Peak 1 400a stove. Unfortunately, no English, but watch VERY closely. Most people make mistakes by turning the red fuel lever to full open when lighting. Then, fuel leaks from the generator and the stove catches on fire. This video shows the correct procedure where the fuel lever is only open half-throttle when lighting, then opened up after the generator has warmed up. Leave it to the Japanese to follow directions exactly and get it right.
Not so much. The REAL correct way is printed on the side of the stove at 0:48 and in the manual.
There are different models in this series. They LOOK like the same stove, but they are not. Some have different generators, fuel/air tubes, and main valves. There are models that have a main valve that has LIGHT straight down and RUN fully out. This isn't one of those. Follow the instructions for your particular model.
Most folks screw it up by nursing the valves when the instant lighting sequence REALLY needs the highest flow rate to atomize the fuel properly and avoid flaring. That happened here. Some folks open the valve before they light their match or lighter and have it held to the burner. That happened here.
Some folks wait until they hear is spit. Too late, generator is already flooded.
Some folks don't immediately start adding pressure as soon as it lights and that hinders atomization. That KINDA happened here, but I think he gave it 60 pumps initially.
From initial light to ready to cook should be about 30 seconds under normal conditions.
Some folks preheat the generator with a torch. That's fine, but not necessary if you follow the instructions.
Some folks have an old stove with a wallowed out, now oversized gas tip.
But most of all, the majority of folks simply don't understand how instant lighting works and freak out at the first yellow flash.
What most of these mistakes cause is an instantly flooded generator before they even light their match. It only takes a second to flood it.
A lot of his errors were masked here by putting apparently 60 pumps in the tank instead of the instructions 25 followed by 30 after it lights. I don't have a problem with that since it appears the he didn't fill it with much fuel, so lots of extra space to pressurize, along with the fact that it's not possible to dangerously over pressurize Coleman products using the built in pump. Tanks samples from each lot were randomly destructively hydro tested. If the test tank failed before reaching 500psi, the lot was scrapped.
This was light years from a horrible light up. But it wasn't the REAL correct way, either.
Bottom line for all Coleman instant lighting gasoline appliances is pressure and high flow rates are essential to clean startups. The reason is the fuel/air tube needs high flow to act as the carburetor that it really is when cold. Throttle the flow and you kill fine atomization of fuel.
I don't tell people what to do. I only advise them how to get the best most consistent results based on the instructions the engineers who designed them wrote. They were sharp cats who knew their stuff. What individuals do with that information is up to the individual. Most folks try it and are shocked how well it works. A significant number of folks dig in their heels and refuse to even try because that's just who they are. Or maybe that's how their grandpa taught them and they think I'm launching a personal attack on their departed patriarch, rest his soul. I am not.
I'm wrong 3 times before my first cup of coffee every day. I try to learn something new every day. I hate being wrong about things but I'm man enough to admit when I am.
Feel free to ask questions, comment, correct, complain, insult or whatever. I'm a big boy with a thick skin. If I have a booger hanging out of my nose, I want you to let me know. Both literally and figuratively. But make no mistake. I post comments to HELP people, and I know what I'm talking about on this subject. Do I know it all. Hell no. But I'm trying to. Because poor lighting procedures and failure to follow instructions had led to the near extinction of liquid fueled Coleman products. And that's a damn shame.
Have a super week.
These technically are duel fuel stoves both unleaded and white gas work in them
Next time start this stove by barely pushing the on switch. Have it on a small simmer to start it, and leave it on a simmer for a minute to prevent those high yellow flames.
That 400 is a great stove...
back when stuff was made really skookem.
Nice one !
What's the deal with all the playing with the flame adjustment lever...set it and just leave it
Where can I buy this bottle of fuel in America?
What gas do u use
おんなじ型式現役で使ってます、阪神大震災でも大変たすかりました、あわせて2バーナーも活躍しました、今は山のともです、私が死んだら息子にたくします、ほしいらしい、
欲しがってくれる息子さんが羨ましいですよ。うちはどうかなあ・・・。
You running white gas in it, or did you find something else that worked?
It's a multi fuel but you have to switch the delivery system depending on white gas or alcohol. Can use gasoline to if needed. The one I have is different it was the first Peak One model that has a pump to pressurize the tank.
こんばんは
私もスポーツスター533-739Jというアマガエルカラーと呼ばれてるやつを所有しております
この動画のタイプはコールマンらしからぬスタイリッシュな感じで
かっこいいですよね
炎の具合も均一でバッチリですね
出番は少ないけどガソリン系のストーブは使いこなしてる自分も
誇らしいと言いますか いいですよね 笑
失礼します当時の価格、宜しくお願いします
このボトルは何処の何ですか？
siggの燃料ボトルですよ。衣料やテントの応急補修用に布テープを巻きつけてました。
@@tetkoba 成る程、返信有り難う御座います。
@@tetkoba 早速登録とベルオンにしました。またこれらのレポート楽しみにしてます。
ありがとうございます。今後ともどうぞよろしくです。
Fucking heavy stove lol
Yo, language!
初めまして、こんにちは (*´∀`*)ﾉ
おそらく初コメントかと思いますが、だいぶ以前からチャンネル登録して視聴させて頂いてます。
tetkoba's さんの現在の滞在国・居住国では当該機種適合の２レバーのジェネレーターは入手可能なのでしょうか？
私も茶ピークを新品当時からメンテナンスを繰り返しながら愛用して居る１人なのですが、
ジェネレーターの入手が出来なくなって居りましてコメントさせて頂きました。
こんにちは。さっき見たら日本でも普通じゃ入手できなくなってきてるみたいですね。ヤフーオークションでプレミア価格になっててビックリ。私は予備の備蓄があるんで多分死ぬまで間に合うと思いますが・・・。
本当に在庫があるのか？ ショップの信頼性は？ これらが不明ですけど、検索だと以下のところが引っかかってきましたよ。もし日本に知り合いの方がいるようなら依頼してみたらいかがですか？ www.削除・・・
色々と御手数をお掛けして申し訳御座居ません。
有難う御座居ます。 (ˊᗜˋ；
貼られたリンク先の通販サイトは、会社概要や所在地もイーカゲンな感じですし、
特定商取引法に基づく表示も一切表示されてない香ばしい大陸系の詐欺業者のような印象を受けましたので、そっとページを閉じました。 （＾＾；
今後とも私の好奇心をくすぐる動画を期待して居ります。
なかなか人柱にはなりにくいですよね（笑） 私も過去にアメリカから届かなかったり（詐欺）不良品を送り付けられたこともありました。まあけっこう今まで人柱的なことやってきてたんですけど・・・。で、安全のためURLは削除しました。地方の小さな店とかにデッドストックも残っているような気もするんですけど、気長に探してください。
そうですね （＾＾
一部のコレクターが異常に相場を吊り上らせているだけのような印象も受けますし、
ジェネレーターだけ単品であんな値段を払う位なら現行モデルの中古品を２つ買いますｗ