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  • @GreenDotAviation
    @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +85

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    • @annakeye
      @annakeye Рік тому +11

      Love your work. Non-emotive, no ridiculously dramatic music and just the facts. Told with enough information as to help us understand the aeroplane and how and why things happened the way they did. Good stuff.

    • @jodycarrithers6160
      @jodycarrithers6160 Рік тому +6

      Just subscribed to your channel a few days ago. As far as the illustrated flight accident and disaster channels have gone I haven't really found one, until yours, that I could really get into. I think, what was missing in the ones I've seen before wasn't, necessarily, the slick, highly produced, reenactments that you see on other channels and shows...it was a GOOD story teller/narrator. Either they would use a computerized voice (which I really hate) or, the narrator was too boring...monotone and/or getting too bogged down in highly technical concepts. You do a fantastic job. Love the channel.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +3

      @@annakeye Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the videos :)

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +3

      @@jodycarrithers6160 Thank you 🙏🏼

    • @jaws666
      @jaws666 Рік тому +3

      ​@@GreenDotAviation excellent video as always...
      You from Ireland btw?

  • @TimPeterson
    @TimPeterson Рік тому +1820

    The presence of mind required to turn the plane at the last second to put the engine downwind from the cabin shows how immensely focused and will trained the captain was

    • @OwlRTA
      @OwlRTA Рік тому +92

      clearly didn't want any chance of another Airtours situation, where the wind could feed the fire and make it worse

    • @MarkJoseph81
      @MarkJoseph81 Рік тому +12

      My thought exactly.

    • @crazymonkeyVII
      @crazymonkeyVII Рік тому +30

      Exactly. This definitely slowed down the spreading of the fire to the main fuselage!

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +77

      More importantly than that, the Captain had the sense to ask the RFF whether to evacuate or not. They have the better view and can advise based on the size and intensity of the fire plus if they thing they will be able to put it out quickly or not. Staying in the plane can be safer that evacuating, in certain conditions.

    • @crazymonkeyVII
      @crazymonkeyVII Рік тому +25

      @Ed Oeuna yeah that's true as well! That happened after them parking in the wind. Both those things, as well as the flight, show great airmanship from them. Everything here points to a highly competent crew. These are my favorite stories.

  • @tomstravels520
    @tomstravels520 Рік тому +717

    For those interested, the NEO engines do have sensors to give an ECAM alert if the cowl doors are not closed

    • @johnconnolly2474
      @johnconnolly2474 Рік тому +74

      we have cars that tell us when our doors are not closed properly I rest my case

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +62

      The AAIB report into this incident recommended that Airbus install a *reliable* method of detecting the state of the cowl doors. This was because there were numerous (nearly 40) incidents of aircraft departing with unlatched doors, mostly because checking them was awkward and prone to error. EASA duly issued Airbus with a safety notice.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +43

      @@johnconnolly2474 Cowl door sensors were initially rejected because Airbus found a high level of false positives. After this incident, Airbus was commanded to develop a reliable method of detecting the door state and fit it on all engines built thereafter.

    • @Harald-MacGerhard
      @Harald-MacGerhard Рік тому +9

      Thanks, I feel safer now ❤

    • @agnelodsa788
      @agnelodsa788 Рік тому +4

      neo engines are prone to premature failures due to which airlines are losing money on grounded aircraft.

  • @nicoleisabelle3012
    @nicoleisabelle3012 Рік тому +470

    I prefer videos a lot where the plane makes it somehow. It’s just so much more interesting to see how pilots save an airplane than them failing at it.

    • @phntmz_
      @phntmz_ 10 місяців тому +17

      one of the reasons why i love documentaries or non fiction more than plot movies. it keeps me of the edge of my seat not knowing what would really take place. as opposed to a plot movie, i keep clinging onto the mindset that the protagonist wins, which they do most of the times, making the plot predictable.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 10 місяців тому +12

      There's a lot of episodes of MAYDAY: Air Disaster on this site and I've watched a lot of them. It's always a relief when they cut to first hand accounts early on so I at least know there's going to be survivors if not a complete recovery. There are pilots who have pulled off miracles and it's a great counter-balance to tragedy.

    • @moiraatkinson
      @moiraatkinson 9 місяців тому

      On this site? Green Dot Aviation website?

    • @crazymonkeyVII
      @crazymonkeyVII 3 місяці тому

      @@MakerInMotion I'm the same way, but I absolutely hate how they put a tl;dw summary in most of the newer episodes. It's like, why give spoilers like that? It should be a trailer/teaser like what Green Dot Aviation does, not showing the end result before we see the story!

  • @TheLightningII
    @TheLightningII Рік тому +162

    Good Episode.
    Some small corrections from a 320 pilot: 9:10 None of the hydraulic systems can share fluid. The other systems would not have leaked from the same hole in the Yellow system. The purpose of shutting off the PTU (Power Transfer Unit) is to prevent the Green system from attempting to pressurize the Yellow system via the PTU.
    17:05 It would be really unusual if the crew had not silenced the fire bell. It's normally silenced with the Master Warning button. Keeping it on would only serve to overwhelm your senses when they are already being stressed.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +58

      Appreciate this insight! Thanks for the correction

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Рік тому +8

      Hi, I’m not a pilot. My role has been operational in the oil and gas industry so I am familiar with pressurised systems and hydraulics. What I don’t understand from your explanatory comment is “the systems don’t share fluid”,therefore my question is what was the point of shutting in the PTU? If the systems are completely independent, and don’t share fluid how could the green system pressurise the yellow system via the PTU, so on that basis, what would be the point of carrying out the action?

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +11

      @@malcolmwhite6588 - the three systems are totally independent. With the loss of hydraulics from one system you turn off the associated hydraulic pumps. I’m assuming that the PTU is turned off to prevent it from trying to pressurise an empty system.

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Рік тому +5

      Okay cool, thanks for that - that makes sense. I couldn’t figure otherwise LOL because I understood the three systems were as you say independent

    • @niallwalsh6598
      @niallwalsh6598 10 місяців тому +2

      ​Sorry I still don't understand 🤔

  • @isaackeigwin
    @isaackeigwin Рік тому +433

    Your keen informative style and mellow delivery has me hooked man. You’ve inspired a lot of interest in aviation, keep up the great work!

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +37

      Love to hear this, glad you’re enjoying the videos 🙏🏼

    • @godlessblessings7020
      @godlessblessings7020 Рік тому +5

      *DITTO!* thanks for the explanations & added details:… KEPT ME *RIVETED UNtiL we landed…!!* !...ER… I mean, THEY landed!

    • @DavidPierre-vc6dy
      @DavidPierre-vc6dy Рік тому

      Green Dot has an amazing voice. Should do voice overs

    • @DavidPierre-vc6dy
      @DavidPierre-vc6dy Рік тому

      Should have listened to his FO

  • @melbournemetrotrainsvlogs9401
    @melbournemetrotrainsvlogs9401 Рік тому +303

    Ground staff heading to the wrong aircraft was literally shocking. It just made me feel forgetful in response to setting off on a job and forgetting after. Great vid as always!

    • @medicus1963
      @medicus1963 Рік тому

      Idiots at work. They should be fired immediately and should not touch any plane for lifetime.

    • @noob.168
      @noob.168 Рік тому +1

      british ppl and their tea time delusions

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +6

      @@ingulari3977 Exactly that thing had happened to them twice in the previous week.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +16

      Read the AAIB report - their worksheets made it difficult to identify the target aircraft and the registration on the aircraft itself was not easily visible in conditions of darkness. Working on the wrong aircraft was quite common, but normally caused no problems.

    • @m0npho752
      @m0npho752 Рік тому +21

      @@hb1338 doesnt make it right

  • @moth2542
    @moth2542 Рік тому +85

    such an incredible story, the captain and FO are true heroes for landing the plane safely and you told it so well!

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 Рік тому +7

      Absolutely. Really impressive CRM and great use of ANC (Aviate/Navigate/Communicate).

  • @vincentbaillargeon9139
    @vincentbaillargeon9139 Рік тому +29

    The 2 pilots were clutch. They handled it like true captain.

  • @davidhynd4435
    @davidhynd4435 Рік тому +97

    This is one of the best aviation channels on UA-cam. Well researched and thorough. Clear and articulate. Excellent.

  • @erintheunready7575
    @erintheunready7575 Рік тому +98

    The captain showed an amazing amount of competence and thoughtfulness on this one, right down to turning the plane at the end to put the burning engine downwind of the passengers.

    • @Vincent_Sullivan
      @Vincent_Sullivan Рік тому +9

      Putting a burning engine or fuel leak downwind was a lesson learned from the British Airtours flight 28M incident at Manchester in 1985.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +6

      Not shutting down the right engine in response to the fuel leak wasn’t the best idea and fully contributed to the fire. At this point, according to what I saw in the video, only the right engine was reported damaged by the cabin crew and also only the right engine was suffering from secondary system failures like the hydraulic leak and fuel leak. Unless I missed something or it wasn’t covered in this video, the left engine appears to be working perfectly, albeit without its engine cover.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +15

      @@EdOeuna The AAIB report clearly states that the captain's reasoning and decision were both sound. He had little information on what damage the aircraft had suffered and he sensibly decided that making the plane reliant on an engine of unknown status was not the best option.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому

      @@hb1338 - the AIIB had to come up with something positive following the diabolical actions of everyone else seemingly involved with this aircraft.

    • @jefftegg5320
      @jefftegg5320 Рік тому +12

      ​@@EdOeuna alright Top Gun, calm down....

  • @Frank787-9
    @Frank787-9 Рік тому +196

    Best aviation accident channel on UA-cam !! 🔥

  • @sharoncassell5273
    @sharoncassell5273 Рік тому +3

    Being an x mechanic i saW the inside of cowlings but did not think of them flyjng off & damaging a plane. They just taught us to close them and latch them. No reason given. In military we just complied. C141.

  • @WingingItCrypto
    @WingingItCrypto Рік тому +226

    You, Disaster Breakdown and Mentour are all competing for my favourite accident breakdown channel right now, you all bring such a unique angle even if it's the same accideny, it's great to see, keep it up!

    • @Tiger-Baby
      @Tiger-Baby Рік тому +5

      Ooooh, thanks for the Mentour mention.
      I'm with you, both here and DB, I watch both, as each will explain a part to me that I may not have understood on either alone...
      DB gets technical, this channel explains it fully, so I watch both.
      This channel though, is amazing to nod off to sleep to. His voice, not the content. For qheb I want a break from true crime and nightmares 😊😀🤣

    • @Antwonn83
      @Antwonn83 Рік тому +12

      I don’t really like Mentour. I like this guys Graphics and animations better.

    • @thepotatocouch
      @thepotatocouch Рік тому +1

      I also like mini air crash investigation just for how straightforward everything is

    • @markturpin5667
      @markturpin5667 Рік тому +7

      I agree and these were my exact thoughts. Mentour Pilot, Chloe on Disaster Breakdown and Green Dot, here, are superb. Thank you.

    • @DavidPierre-vc6dy
      @DavidPierre-vc6dy Рік тому +1

      @@Antwonn83 not a fan of mentour

  • @fecardona
    @fecardona Рік тому +23

    Every episode keeps getting better! Editing, graphics, narration, soundtrack, cockpit animations…Congratulations!

  • @dlcpack9358
    @dlcpack9358 Рік тому +14

    Surprisingly haven’t heard of this incident, but very happy all on board survived. Great video!

  • @auntbarbara5576
    @auntbarbara5576 Рік тому +26

    Another excellent presentation from GDA.
    Accurately researched, all facts, no spin, opinion, drama. Your speaking voice, your cadence, iys all a natural for you and is highly professional. I've loved av channels for years but you are among the best, if not THE best, by a lot
    Top notch production, videography, flawless presentation. We value the hard work tbis takes to film, upload, edit, narrate etc etc each of these videos. We appreciate the hardwork and professionalism you pour into your work. We are blessed and you should ve very proud👌

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +1

      Thanks very much for the kind words! More videos on the way ✈️

  • @phildane7411
    @phildane7411 Рік тому +15

    The one thing missing from the lessons learned/improved procedures list was something to ensure engineers are working on the aircraft they think they are working on.

  • @CzechAviationEnthusiast
    @CzechAviationEnthusiast Рік тому +33

    I spend around 5hrs watching your videos every day. You have a good style of presenting and you cover interesting crashes or incidents. Keep it up!

  • @Jezza640
    @Jezza640 Рік тому +84

    Seriously man, the effort put into these videos is greatly appreciated. Even when I watch your videos about incidents or accidents I know well you bring up stuff I had no idea about. Fantastic work and please keep up the effort.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +6

      Thanks so much, it’s a team effort at this point 🙏🏼

    • @crohr1000
      @crohr1000 Рік тому +2

      Yea, but the biggest problem is he puts waaay to much adds

    • @abigaildriskell8917
      @abigaildriskell8917 Рік тому +2

      @@crohr1000if you dont like ads don’t watch, people gotta eat somehow

  • @sophiecat5713
    @sophiecat5713 Рік тому +2

    I love your channel, you just get better and better

  • @Gizmoslostsack
    @Gizmoslostsack 6 місяців тому +4

    I’m an RAFAC and these videos are helping me with my training, and the way you describe these videos are genuinely incredible. I’ve always had a curiosity with these types of incidents, and i hope one day to be an aerodrome controller!! Thank you for your work ❤

  • @itsmehi90
    @itsmehi90 Рік тому +4

    This channel is criminally underrated.

  • @sabbathsermonthetypist
    @sabbathsermonthetypist 6 місяців тому +3

    This is the best aviation channel because the speaker doesn’t do videos showing himself

    • @happysunshine1988
      @happysunshine1988 4 місяці тому

      Yes, so I can do my housework without watching the screen.

  • @RJSmith-jo7oe
    @RJSmith-jo7oe Рік тому +9

    Disappointed that there were no improvements made for the technicians. As soon as they leave the plane, they should identify the plane again on the checklist.
    The video is absolutely great, thank you.

  • @GravyOverload
    @GravyOverload Рік тому +58

    you should cover the british airtours flight 28M accident at manchester, lots of good things to learn from it

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +35

      Absolutely, will cover that at some point

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +3

      One of which was correct orientation of the aircraft when there is a ground fire, which the captain did.

  • @Jerrynyc424
    @Jerrynyc424 7 місяців тому +3

    As a NYC firemen for 22 years… I gotta say… these Pilots are so brave and stay calm under stress…. Much respect 🫡 to them

  • @dinoprimi3914
    @dinoprimi3914 Рік тому +3

    I’ve noticed that in a lot of these cases the first officer has been right, it seems that the captains lose focus under all the pressure of being the final decision maker.

  • @tommacpherson9456
    @tommacpherson9456 Рік тому +13

    I'm so pumped when I see a new video from you man, keep doing what you do! Your vids are awesome

  • @Humanimal47
    @Humanimal47 Рік тому +41

    Not only do you produce professional, well-researched videos which educate as well as entertain you also tell a great story which has me genuinely on the edge of my seat. This is another fine effort, thank you.

  • @TheButterZone
    @TheButterZone Рік тому +9

    Had a feeling everyone would be OK after seeing the flight attendant's photo, but teared up just the same.

  • @Fred-zt5ky
    @Fred-zt5ky Рік тому +7

    Amazing video as always! This one was really crazy. Brilliant job from both pilots.

  • @baanibarnes9711
    @baanibarnes9711 11 місяців тому +2

    Hang on, it's all very well getting the aircrew to do a more thorough walk-around check - what about getting the ground crew to take a written note of which aircraft they are working on, ie the serial number on the rear fuselage? Also having a written check list to sign off when each item required is completed ending with 'Ensure engine covers securely latched and locked in place'! Crikey, what a way to run maintenance on which lives depend daily . . .

  • @felipe21994
    @felipe21994 Рік тому +7

    I was on the edge of my seat most of the toem, your narration is really something else, I hope you grow and get recognized

  • @ColdenRaney
    @ColdenRaney Рік тому +2

    My last client (barber) was in this flight. Just told me the whole story. Had to come and watch. Crazy!!!

  • @divemaster2452
    @divemaster2452 Рік тому +43

    Just want to say, that your channel is the best accident analysis one I’ve come across. Great job.
    I’m an airline pilot so get a bit frustrated by some of the so called experts on UA-cam coming up with a load of inaccurate tosh.
    Your content is very well researched and presented, and keeps to facts without speculation.
    Keep up the good work. 👍

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +7

      Thank you! Delighted you get value from it 😄

    • @Secretlyanothername
      @Secretlyanothername Рік тому

      This incident reminded me of QF32. Obviously that had more pilots and loss of several control systems, but experienced pilots implementing their assessment and decision making in either case saved many lives in an emergency situation with a high workload and multiple failures.

  • @lutimstrickshots9253
    @lutimstrickshots9253 Рік тому +40

    The captain turning the plane at the last moment so that the wind blows the engine away from the passengers was just such a boss move.

  • @VinayKumar-fj2kg
    @VinayKumar-fj2kg Рік тому +8

    Great AV quality and superb narration. Very informative too. Videos like this tell us how aviation safety has evolved to todays standards by learnings drawn from such instances.
    Great work and keep it up.

  • @TheTrophyMerchant
    @TheTrophyMerchant 6 місяців тому

    Hey, just wanted to thank for these videos. Not only are they well scripted but also the style is engaging while being easy on the ears. There are no other aviation videos that are so smooth to watch, thank you.

  • @dankbornkstomper6867
    @dankbornkstomper6867 Рік тому +4

    This videos make me more nervous than any other type of media. Excellent video, and such an important event. Changes were implemented because of this, which directs affects the safety of aviation. Great work.

  • @steve-marsh
    @steve-marsh Рік тому +2

    Excellent video and hats off to the crew and ground staff!

  • @rawexplorer8373
    @rawexplorer8373 Рік тому +20

    I have a fresh experience of my own to add that leads me to talk to the FAA. During a flight, I noticed what appeared to be a crack in the engine cowling. Worried that it can come apart and damage the leading edge/horizontal stabilizer, after landing, I went to the cockpit and told the captain who freaked out, saying he hasnt spotted anything on the walkaround. Turns out the crack was in a place where one cant see on the walkaround which leaves a terrifying prospect of damage being missed due to being in a spot where a pilot cant see!

  • @ynwa3476
    @ynwa3476 8 місяців тому +3

    The great thing about London is the number of airports all within a 60 mile radius, Heathrow, Gatwick, City Of London, Luton, Stanstead.....pilots have so many options at their disposable above London.

  • @GearedToSlide
    @GearedToSlide Рік тому +7

    i've been checking your channel the past few days. i knew something was in the oven. love these man, great work.

  • @RobertRoberts329
    @RobertRoberts329 Рік тому +5

    Look forward to these videos all week! best part of the weekend!🎉

  • @furbyguy
    @furbyguy Рік тому +5

    Just found your channel, love these videos. The last two of yours I watched featured pilots making unfortunate mistakes, so it's a nice contrast to see proper procedure and training come in to save the day on this one, even if not from the plane's mechanics.

  • @tycenbeck5722
    @tycenbeck5722 Рік тому +7

    I absolutely hate flying and your videos definitely don’t help calm any nerves but there so good I have to watch them

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +1

      You will find that it takes a large number of things to go wrong before an aircraft falls out of the sky - that thought is quite reassuring !

    • @trinityp8575
      @trinityp8575 Рік тому

      @@hb1338not really. No one can reassure you it won’t go wrong on your flight.

  • @TheJoStephan
    @TheJoStephan Рік тому +12

    Sorry Mentour Pilot, this is now my favourite aviation-incident-investigation channel. Green Dot is short and sweet. To the point and clear. But still thoroughly explained and well-researched.

  • @godlessblessings7020
    @godlessblessings7020 Рік тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @patriciaramsey5294
    @patriciaramsey5294 Рік тому +10

    Simply incredible. Things like this were "fairly routine'??? OMG!

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +3

      Engine failure, return to airport is an absolutely standard drill - pilots perform it least three times a year in the simulator.

  • @zvisger
    @zvisger Рік тому +1

    This is by far the best airplane incident storytelling channel. Its just so well explained, with a soothing voice, and the visuals are pleasant as well.. except for the parts when the plane catches fire and all that.

  • @benowen9630
    @benowen9630 Рік тому +14

    Incredible channel. Keep up the work. Your fanbase is growing - and rightly so 👌

  • @Jadegreif
    @Jadegreif Рік тому +4

    Great video, and awesome storytelling. Really had me on the edge of my seat if they make it or not, well done!

  • @familys6076
    @familys6076 Рік тому +29

    Thanks for the really great content. You’re definitely miles ahead of other aviation channels on UA-cam. Keep up the good work. 💯👍

  • @stevenwest000
    @stevenwest000 Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  • @Harald-MacGerhard
    @Harald-MacGerhard Рік тому +13

    Wow, what an amazing story and you made me sitting on a knife's edge.... are they gonna make it or not? I never heard about this flight before and here you made one of the best aviation stories on youtube.
    Stunning work, love it 😎
    Even more, incredible crew work ❤

    • @wintercame
      @wintercame Рік тому +1

      I agree. That was full of suspense and uncertainty. I almost felt I was sitting in the FO seat guiding to landing. A story well told by Green Dot.

  • @ellisonketovore
    @ellisonketovore Рік тому +2

    Exceptional report, detail and graphics as always!! With each report the attention to detail keeps getting even more incredible! Thank you!

  • @keithryan9620
    @keithryan9620 Рік тому +5

    loving the disaster recovery vids. please keep em coming. 🙂

  • @ninadbal1069
    @ninadbal1069 6 місяців тому +1

    The PTU isn’t switched off to prevent leak from same pipe. There is no transfer of fluid from PTU. It’s switched off to prevent the other system from overheating.

  • @RipRoaringGarage
    @RipRoaringGarage Рік тому +12

    Similar thing happened to one of my jets. The latches on the 707 COULD be forced shut, but only partially latching. So, when the aircraft was clearing 5000 both cowls opened, and parachuted to the ground. The one good thing about the 707 with the TF33s is that the cowls are NOT bolted at the top hinge. At a high enough angle, they slide out, so there was minimal damage. Just the oil heat exchanged and filter assembly were damaged, and later replaced.
    All that, because new techs did not use the correct cowling tool. The cowl tool, is really just a 6 inch pry bar (Snap-On, made by Mayhew). Instead they used a screwdriver. The kid was worried about snapping the tip and creating FOD, so he failed to fully seat the latch. (We had a big briefing on NOT using the screw driver as a pry bar, but some still figured it was ok if they were "careful"). The kid did get punished and learned as well, without anyone getting hurt.
    To this day, I still will never use a screwdriver as a pry bar. It is forged along different axis, to make is strong against rotational sheering, and not lateral sheering that ocurs when its pried on (one side contracts, one side extends). Something so little can be so important.
    Yes, ths was and sitll is a bit pet peeve of mine hehe.

  • @academictrailers3010
    @academictrailers3010 Рік тому +3

    Another great video - congratulations! Very informative and good on the pilots.

  • @hugokeys602
    @hugokeys602 Рік тому +9

    Yet another great, informative and highly interesting video.
    I'm slow to say "entertaining" as the subject matter is so serious, but I enjoy your videos immensely.
    I'm so glad I found your channel and I'm binge watching as we speak.
    Keep up the fantastic work and I look forward to the next installment.
    One of the easiest subs to a channel ever!

  • @erroneousbatch
    @erroneousbatch Рік тому +1

    Excellent, also, for what it's worth, voice to music ratio was spot on for my particular lugholes ;)

  • @chattycatty3336
    @chattycatty3336 Рік тому +5

    anyone else get that euphoric feeling about halfway through, when you realise theres way too much detail for everyone to have died 😂😅 cutos to those pilots.

  • @jaxbutterfly9186
    @jaxbutterfly9186 Рік тому +1

    Great vocabulary. I adore this channel and your voice is so perfect.

  • @vacuumelite2065
    @vacuumelite2065 Рік тому +6

    Great narration. Your visuals/animations are stunning. Happy outcome. Shockingly simple error 🙃

  • @bindatek8801
    @bindatek8801 10 місяців тому +1

    This has been a problem for years! I was a passenger in a BA Viscount from Leeds to London. I reported to the Pilot a loose engine cowling on the starboard engine....The pilot came back from the cockpit, looked at the problem and said that it would just drop off and likely do no damage. 5 minutes later - it dropped off, over Halton RAF airfield, less than 1/4 of mile from house!! The aircraft carried on to Heathrow and landed without incident. Sloppy workmanship is not uncommon in aviation - and causes death and destruction!!

  • @tomstravels520
    @tomstravels520 Рік тому +9

    These are some other A320 incidents of engine cowl doors not being locked:
    9 February 1992; A320 of Mexicana at Mexico City, Mexico
    20 January 2000; A320 of Airtours International at London-Gatwick, U.K.
    12 June 2000; A320 of America West at Las Vegas, USA
    13 September 2000; A320 of Skyservice at Toronto, Canada
    11 May 2004; A320 of Iberia at Madrid, Spain
    13 July 2004; A320 of AirTran at Atlanta, USA
    22 April 2007; A319 of Frontier at Atlanta, USA
    9 January 2008; A319 of Northwest Airlines at Detroit, USA
    6 May 2008; A319 of Spirit Airlines at Detroit, USA
    19 January 2010; A318 of Mexicana at Cancun, Mexico
    28 January 2010; A320 of Volaris at Tijuana, Mexico
    5 April 2010; A320 of JetBlue at Newark, USA
    27 November 2010; A319 of Air India at Bangalore, India
    10 December 2010; A320 of Bulgaria Air at Sofia, Bulgaria
    30 November 2011; A320 of Wizz at Bucharest, Romania
    19 May 2012; A320 of TAM at Natal, Brazil
    18 February 2013; A320 of China Southern Airlines at Harbin, China
    12 August 2013; A320 of easyJet at Milan, Italy
    9 November 2013; A319 of Spirit Airlines at Chicago-O’Hare Airport, USA
    18 September 2014; A320 of JetBlue at Long Beach, USA
    26 January 2015; A320 of flynas at Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
    14 October 2015; A319 of Sky Airline at Santiago, Chile
    16 October 2015; A320 of Tigerair at Singapore
    13 June 2016; A320 of American Airlines at Phoenix Sky Harbor, USA
    19 September 2016; A320 of Aruba Airlines at Miami, USA
    25 July 2017; A320 of Bangkok Airways at Bangkok, Thailand
    8 November 2018; A320 of Vueling at Bilbao, Spain
    30 November 2018; A320 of Frontier at Las Vegas, USA

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +1

      The AAIB report identifies at least 38 at the time of writing (2013).

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Рік тому

      @@hb1338 likely more than this list, just took this off a website that mentioned others

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Рік тому

      @@wellisaythat myself? You think we’re the same person? Are you….ok?

  • @lewismcyds1574
    @lewismcyds1574 9 місяців тому

    9:15 Great video, just had to mention that the PTU doesn't transfer actual liquid, but is used effectively as a motor, being able to spin one system with the other.

  • @LucyAisling
    @LucyAisling Рік тому +12

    As BA cabin crew I’ve worked on this particular aircraft recently (G-EUOE). She was fully repaired and is working perfectly fine today 😄 However i do have things I could add but can’t talk about. This video was really well made and fascinating. I hadn’t heard about this incident but I have seen those training pictures during my training. Thank you for the work you put in

    • @Miniigees
      @Miniigees Рік тому +4

      Maybe you can come back whenever you dont work for the airline anymore and talk about it here

  • @charlesclager6808
    @charlesclager6808 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, cliff hanger video. It goes to show how correct maintenance procedures are vitally important to the safe operation of the plane.

  • @rebster3206
    @rebster3206 Рік тому +14

    Turning the plane on land to keep the fire away from the cabin using the wind was such a genius move fair play

  • @mitchurchin2
    @mitchurchin2 3 місяці тому

    Incredible airmanship, brilliant cooperation and problem solution.

  • @scottygordon3280
    @scottygordon3280 Рік тому +5

    Hot take: This channel is to aviation what Chubbyemu is to healthcare. In a general sense, the format is similar, with both reviewing seemingly unusual cases from a surprisingly extensive inventory of such cases. But more specifically, both often end up explaining the same terms or concepts in multiple videos because of how frequently they come up. For example, Chubbyemu almost always says "emia: presence in blood" in his videos, and likewise this channel often brings up "crew resource management" and a handful of other concepts in many of their videos.

    • @Halinspark
      @Halinspark Рік тому +1

      I'm glad the titles are different. "Maintenence left the doors open. This is what happened to the engine.'

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +2

      I really like Chubbyemu’s videos, appreciate this comparison :)

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +2

      Now that you say that I actually think that’s a good title format 🤔

    • @peterdieleman303
      @peterdieleman303 Рік тому +2

      Fuel-emia

    • @gauribadukale2397
      @gauribadukale2397 Рік тому

      That literally was my first thought when I saw his vid for the first time

  • @pantherplatform
    @pantherplatform Рік тому +2

    I like analog controls i.e. cables, linkages, levers, pedals, strings, rope, etc...

  • @Gimblenut9
    @Gimblenut9 Рік тому +4

    Unfortunately, the fire bottle discharges put out a fire with the cowlings closed, those had departed the aircraft around takeoff.

  • @davidevans5782
    @davidevans5782 Рік тому +2

    I really appreciate your videos, they have given me such an insight into the things that can go wrong with aviation, thank you so much!

  • @guyseeten2755
    @guyseeten2755 Рік тому +4

    The flight crew handled this emergency proficiently! First Officer, just over 5000 hours of flying experience, of wich about 4000 in the A320 family. 'The autothrust disconnected and the First Officer was now controlling the engines manually, SOMETHING HE HAD NEVER DONE ON THE A319, APART FROM IN THE SIMULATOR'. Isn't this strange? 🤔 (Interesting: The Captain joined BA as an engineer and later trained as a pilot. I think most pilots start training as a pilot, and most of them at a young age.)

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +2

      Nowadays BA only takes pilots below a certain age (used to be 25) - the huge cost of training and the early retirement age means they want to get maximum life out of their drivers !

  • @michaelcoghlan9124
    @michaelcoghlan9124 Рік тому +2

    This was a tremendously interesting video, for anyone connected with maintenance wether aircraft related or not, there is a lot to take notice of in it. Really is a must watch video. Thank you for putting it up. Michael

  • @ZombieSazza
    @ZombieSazza Рік тому +9

    Hey Green Dot, I’ve an interesting one for you, the Mallow Racecourse Incident! They recently had Ocaña Fest to celebrate 40 years since Captain Ocaña’s dramatic entrance to Mallow, one of those feel good stories that doesn’t end in tragedy. I dunno if you do incidents like that, but there’s old footage online and has one hell of a legacy!

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +1

      I read about that in the Irish Times last week! Definitely will have to cover it at some point, great story.

  • @g.gordonwoody645
    @g.gordonwoody645 3 дні тому

    Hey great work on this channel, really good. I follow many of other similar channels but I think you have the best. Your content moves along smoothly and you deliver a lot of meat. Thank you!

  • @RayRayfrfr
    @RayRayfrfr Рік тому +5

    Love your videos as always

  • @petechongy
    @petechongy 10 місяців тому +1

    These vids are awesome, keep the good work up.

  • @oliverclark8873
    @oliverclark8873 Рік тому +11

    I remember this incident, but your coverage provides so much more insight. That Captain deserves a medal. Their decision making under extreme pressure was what made the difference to the outcome, even if it intelligently went outside SOPs in places.

    • @handsoffmycactus2958
      @handsoffmycactus2958 Рік тому +1

      No he doesn’t he was a rude prick who didn’t even speak to his team on board, ignored them and didn’t answer them. He thought he was more important than the flight attendants. Cabin crew were left isolated with no communication for too long. He was a scumbag.

    • @phildane7411
      @phildane7411 Рік тому +4

      @@handsoffmycactus2958 Do you think he was just there twiddling his thumbs and not bothering to answer the intercom. A primary rule in aviation relates to priorities: aviate, navigate, communicate. The captain was absolutely correct to adhere to that order of precedence.

    • @ervin500
      @ervin500 Рік тому +3

      @@handsoffmycactus2958but that is protocol. If he did what you say, he would be questioned by officials why he didn’t prioritise navigating the plane until landing.

    • @ProTroll_UK
      @ProTroll_UK 11 місяців тому

      @@handsoffmycactus2958 you absolute bell-whiff

  • @iankirk9097
    @iankirk9097 Рік тому +1

    Extremely well told and produced! Since I discovered your channel and content, I now aim to watch every video that you create, past, present and future.

  • @oneworldawakening
    @oneworldawakening Рік тому +13

    Pilots hear a report that a trail of debris has fallen from the plane during takeoff but don't immediately declare a mayday and request clearance to land back at the airport? Or ask the flight crew to conduct a visual inspection?

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 Рік тому +7

      Even a routine Take-off is a BUSY BUSY time in the cockpit. If there isn't an obnoxious noise or vibration felt up there during the take-off climb, the pilots aren't about to invent more work immediately... AND frankly, rightly so. It's dangerous to stack a bunch of "what if" check-lists on top of everything that's already designed to get the plane up to a designated "safe altitude"... ADD to that the "101 Stuff" that a plane is MOST vulnerable of all parts of flight whenever it's still off the ground but below minimum flight path altitudes. On a commercial jet, that's any time you're below 5000 feet. You're just traveling too fast for a dip or other maneuver to avoid the risk of CFIT... THE most deadly and frequent source of disasters in aviation through history...
      Much better to get the plane up to safer altitudes and THEN start diagnosing while keeping with the flight path, even if you're already convinced "something bad happened"... At most, you can call into ATC for a "holding pattern" to put the plane on while you "sort it out" whether it's safe to go on to your destination, or how safe it's going to be to turn back and land... BUT in this case, they just didn't have any time for holding patterns... and it quickly deteriorated to "do or die".
      Over-all, the Pilots handled "Crisis Mode" the best they could have with the information they had at the time. There's a degree of luck, but much of any deviations in their methods, and they probably wouldn't have made it, even including declaring a mayday as soon as they heard about the debris.
      I'd recommend you look up the Air Safety Institute's videos on "The Impossible Turn". They're a little more oriented to "General Aviation", but a lot of the principles in Cessna piloting DO still carry over to Commercial Flight, only the numbers (scale) really change. ;o)

    • @oneworldawakening
      @oneworldawakening Рік тому +3

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 Gotcha, thanks. You can tell I've never set foot in a cockpit, much less during a takeoff.

    • @christopherudowenko7157
      @christopherudowenko7157 Рік тому

      What this channel does not do unlike some others, is telling you how long have been flying. Did the pilot finally turnaround after 6 minutes or was it within 3?

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +2

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 - what absolute rubbish. They have a report of debris from the aircraft, then they lose a hydraulic system and the AFDS plays up. That’s more than enough to declare an emergency and initiate a return to land. As for the climb to a safe altitude, they should know that the 25nm MSA is 2100ft, so 3000ft is all they have to climb to to be clear of terrain.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 Рік тому

      @@oneworldawakening Always welcome. Frankly, I'm glad there are channels like this one, and the Air Safety Institute (among others) to help folks kind of get a fair idea of what regulations are for as much as the activities involved in piloting... I've been privileged to sit through take-offs and landings, and in more than the military flights I've been on... BUT with the likes of YT, that kind of information (even if not quite the experience) is available for just about anyone interested, even only casually or "in passing"...
      In any case, I just hope it helps out. ;o)

  • @matthewcunningham8691
    @matthewcunningham8691 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding video, many thanks 👍. Lucky that everyone got off the aircraft unscathed!

  • @DenchYeah666
    @DenchYeah666 Рік тому +10

    Many of these pilots are amazing. However, I cant help but think alot of pilots would learn alot from actually looking out the passenger window on occasion..

    • @Leeooooooo...
      @Leeooooooo... Рік тому +3

      Imagine the use of having a screen in the cockpit that displays a live camera view of the plane. Some planes like the A380 have this - but only the passengers can see what the camera is capturing from the POV of the tail

    • @QueenofMarine
      @QueenofMarine Рік тому +1

      *A lot. Alot is not a word. Just FYI.

  • @traceykelly2603
    @traceykelly2603 Рік тому +1

    Even though I read the actual report on this incident, your excellent video brought this to life. Great job 😊

  • @GTsMonza
    @GTsMonza Рік тому +3

    The pre-flight inspection on the A319 was disappointing to the first officer the first officer because when inspecting you pay extensive attention to the engines and the captain couldn't stop the first officer because it's always the job of the first officer to carry out checks and talk on coms.

  • @mendel5106
    @mendel5106 Рік тому +2

    Very nice narration, I was in suspense till the very end.

  • @tomstravels520
    @tomstravels520 Рік тому +4

    I’m not sure if others like this but there’s too much foreshadowing and repeatedly saying “but little did they know it would get worse” etc. For the intro foreshadowing is fine but repeating it in the middle does tend to just give away what is about to happen

  • @kitbaker8521
    @kitbaker8521 6 місяців тому

    Checking cowling latches was always in my and my contemporaries preflight since I started in 1968. That was on the walk-around procedure, too.

  • @md8590
    @md8590 Рік тому +4

    Great channel! Just discovered it. My only suggestion would be if you could tell us what other aircraft the pilots had flown in their careers

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +4

      The Captain had type ratings on B737, B757 and A320 family; the FO had type ratings on B737 and A320 family.

  • @sayyadinasri
    @sayyadinasri Рік тому +2

    I’m always so relieved when everyone is safe 😅. This was fascinating

  • @offsidev6059
    @offsidev6059 Рік тому +3

    Technicians just assuming that someone else did the work?! Like who? Are other technicians just going around the airport fixing random planes without telling anyone? There has to be more to explain what really happened here.
    It's like a surgeon walking out in the middle of the surgery to get a tool, walks into the wrong operating room where he sees another patient who is okay and just assumes that someone else finished the operation...

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому

      Read the AAIB report. The engineers left work on the aircraft incomplete because they needed special tools which weren't to hand. They failed to leave a warning sign in the cockpit. Some time later, after working on other aircraft, they fetched the tools and went back to the original aircraft. At that point they went to another (wrong) aircraft, saw the closed doors, but did not realise that they were at the wrong aircraft. If they had left the warning sign in the cockpit, the flight crew would have known to check the doors thoroughly.

  • @K4Ediamond
    @K4Ediamond Рік тому

    I was on G-EUOE on a flight from Stuttgart to London a few months ago, and just found out it was the aircraft involved in this. Great video.

  • @jerrygaguru
    @jerrygaguru 10 місяців тому +1

    With these
    Arched and doors so critical, why do they not have an electronic safety switch to make sure they’re closed properly, since the mistake could happen multiple times. Or have the screws set up to wear it’s red if it’s unlocked and green if it’s locked. I still think the switch idea is a good thing where if it comes loose during flight, it can let the pilots know what they’re dealing with..

  • @AndreA-ke2id
    @AndreA-ke2id Рік тому +3

    Thanks a million for creating this video. Love the Irish accent.
    I can't believe the ground technicians can't identify the plane they are supposed to be working on. Surely their paperwork will have the plane's registration as at least one of the identifiers ?? If it does then those technicians should have been fired.

  • @amywill9185
    @amywill9185 Рік тому +1

    Your voice and narration are just 😘👌🏻! Im a few days from flying from India to NYC and believe it or not, your videos help with my anxiety. Thanks for another interesting one!