Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for this series of videos which inspired me to try and fix some PS3 consoles myself. I didn't have prior experience and tools to do this but I followed your advice and got everything I needed, including several broken consoles I found on the local marketplace. After I got all prepared it was kind of hard to finally start doing the repairs but today I have finally fixed my first PS3! It was just tokins but it was a lot of fun! I tried to replicate your technique in desoldering the old ones and even though I got the top part melted it was a success! I used RIP-Felix's tantalizer boards to make the replacement capacitors look neat and I'm very happy with the result! Once again, thank you for inspiring me!
yees! A new video from Tony! Really happy to see one again, and grabbing popcorn to enjoy what I am sure is another great video. Please keep up the great work, both in filming, and in repairing stuff :)
Just some suggestions on the second PS3. When applying thermal paste after a de-lid, apply the paste to the top of the IHS of both chips first (but do not put thermal paste on top of the chip dies themselves). This allows each of the IHS to adhere to the main heatsink AND maintain an orientation that is (as close to) parallel to the surface of the heatsink as possible (the surface of the chip dies themselves will facilitate with leveling). Partially assemble the console up to where the two clamps are secured (to ensure that the IHS are pressed firmly to the heatsink). Now disassemble, and the IHS should be "glued" to the heatsink. Visually inspect the IHS to ensure that they are not tilted. Then proceed to put thermal paste onto the chip dies. Doing it the way you did on the video allows the IHS to "float" between the dies and the heatsink and opens the possibility that the IHS is not parallel to the surface of the heatsink or CPU dies. This in turn results in uneven heat transfer.
Hi there - thank you so much for taking the time to write your feedback. I did watch NSC's videos and indeed it explains the same procedure. Somehow I did not do that for my PS3's, not sure why :) What you say IS the way to go 100%. Eventually those PS3 went to my friend Tim, he's more skilled than I am when it comes to refurbishing so I'm confident he's re-applied the IHS' correctly. Thanks for watching!
Good job with the soldering, I have seen other videos where it was really horrible and unsatisfying. I really need to get myself one of those preheaters. Looks like a total gamechanger!
Ciao! Beh, ci ho lavorato su tanto! 😃 Grazie per la visita e per la sottoscrizione! Ho una PS3 da sistemare che cerchero' di fare al piu' presto! Ciao!
The tokin caps are a bit of a myth still, most of the time it's the RSX chip itself failing and replacing the caps prolongs the life a bit but not really solves it. Research nvidia bump gate for more info. Rip Felix did an excellent video about a week ago
Wow, I'm watching his video and... wow! Such a detailed and technical video! You just spoiled my success though! LOL - Just kidding. Thanks for mentioning, one of the most informative videos ever watched on the subject!
@@tony359 I was about to rip the tokin's out of one of the backwards compatible ylod ps3's I have laying around when his video popped up. Was very informative with highly detailed explanations and just enough humor. Keep watching to the end, you might like the actual fix.
@@samuraidriver4x4 I have. Now I guess I have to improve on my SMD skills and maybe one day I can also fix that COK-002 I totalled a few months ago. What I find incredible is how the community managed to find out these solutions - sometimes improving on Sony's own procedures. It's amazing!
@@tony359 seeing the syscon chip on a 45 degree angle with all the wires between board and chip is just amazing. Back in the day I did a bit of playstation 1 modding I learned from people around me but now with the internet and the tools that became cheaper it's amazing how communities work together on this. Another thing that massively helps is that schools are more focused towards electronics and computer engineering opposed to carpentry, metalwork and other hands on occupations 20 years ago. Besides that the arduino and raspberry pi have made experimenting with electronics and programming more accessible to the masses.
Yes, sometimes I think what I would do if I was a teenager and all these technology was around. I was lucky enough to have an Apple 2 in the home when I was a kid but still it was not something you'd see around very easily.
Hi, nice video. We learn a lot from you. I need your help. I bought a ps3 with ylod and I read the errors with the syscon. I got the error 1002, and I changed one of the Nec tokin in the video. I solved the problem and the console works perfectly, but the only problem is that when I turn it off the red light stays blinking and I can't restart with the controller. The console turns off completely, but I have to press and hold the power button on the console to turn off the red blinking light. Do you know what could be the problem? Would I have to change more nec tokin? Thanks for everything.
Thanks for your comment! I'm not sure to be honest but it feels like a power handling issue. The Syscon looks after that, did you get the error codes by serial or via custom ROM? If you soldered around the syscon IC I would double check that everything is as it should be. Also, try powering on and off via Syscon, you might get more insight of what is happening. I cannot remember if you need to put the console in diagnostic mode, NSC's document has got everything you need to do that. Good luck!
Thank you! After destroying that poor PS2-compatible one, I was impressed as well. Even though NSCModz is warning me that the GPU could be dangerous that way.
I'm sorry, I really don't feel competent enough to work on someone else's PS3 I'm afraid. Also please consider the possibility that a YLOD on a backwards compatible PS3 might not be fixable - at least not long term. Sorry and thanks for watching!
I understand why! :) I used both 100C for a bit longer or 300C for a shorter time. But considering the RSX die it directly attached to the IHS, maybe 100C for - say - 30s is ok. Good luck :)
I have a 80GB 2nd Gen PS3 fat that i bought new in 2007 and after 10 years of use it started to over heat and i believe only why it took that long was because it always had a fan in front of it, in 2017 I did a DELID and i work on electronics but i was very worried of messing up the CPU as it was the hardest for me to do and with the possibility of scratching the traces but by luck i did it right the first time and i have had no issues with the console this month i revisited opening up the console and replaced the thermal paste again and this time using Artic MX-6 on the CPU and GPU and Artic MX-5 on the Heat Spreaders along with replacing the thermal pads. I thought finally with this set up i would be done, well come to find out I should had delid the south bridge cause under that is a chip being cooled by thermal paste and come to find out that the south bridge does get warm and needs to be cooled so i ordered some cutting wire that is used to open cell phone screens cause the space between the south bride lid is thinner then the CPU and Ill go ahead and replace the clock batter while its open again.....wish me luck.
I'm looking into using a PC ATX Power Supply for powering my BC PS3 and to reduce the heat around that area where the internal power supply goes. I would like to know what kind of connector/cable can I use for the two rounded gold long prongs on the PS3 (CECHA01 model) motherboard if you can help. Thanks.
Hi there - I do not know if those terminals are standard or not. If you cannot find them you could solder some wires directly at the back of the motherboard. However, the APS-227 features 32A at 12V so you'd need a pretty chunky wire in order not to melt it. That is why computer boards usually have multiple pin connectors. Unless you use a pretty big wire, you're also going to have an excessive voltage drop. In short, I'm not sure you're gaining much here. Thanks for your message!
Hey Tony! I am quite late but I am doing my research on YLOD issues, and I have to say this is one of the best videos on this topic I have seen... most excellent content!! Also, that was the cleanest TOKIN removal I have ever seen!!! Do you remember the temp you pre-heated the board to??
Hey - thanks for watching! Yes, pre-heating is around 150C, my laser thermometer is very handy in measuring that. I know what you mean about the TOKIN removal, thank you! I cringe when I see videos of people literally ripping them off the boards with various tools!! :)
I've got an backwards compatible ps3 in working state, i got the syscon error log from ps3toolset, it has multiple 1001 errros, after cleaning the console (not deliding) and spending some time on power on, the console suddenly after normal shut off, didn't even goes to stand by mode (red light). After changing 2 power cords, the light pop in! Booting the console and got YLOD! After several times of turning off and on, i dissembly it again and reassembly, the console boot up!!! I've check again the syscon and i got 3003 error! The console working normally without ylod (again). till i get it to local electronic store to change the NEC TOKIN Capacitors. Could the problem be those NEC TOKIN?
The role of Tokin's with the PS3 has been recently re-evaluated and it's now believed they're seldom the cause of issues. That said, your PS3 seems to have some power issues so maybe replacing the tokins won't hurt. Remember it's not an easy process... Good luck!
Indeed! I believe Tim replaced another one and then the PS3 has worked flawlessly since - so it looks like this one was actually one of those rare Tokin fault! Thanks for watching!
good job. I have a ps3 that plays some games and turns off like the first one in this video. Do you fix it like the first one in the video or not and how much does it cost?
Thanks. It could be anything. Does it beep three times? That’s overheating. If not, it could be really anything. It turns out that tokins are rarely the cause of a fault. Capacitors are not expensive. Tools and skills are 🙂
What’s your advice for replacing the internal hard drive? My PS3 has a 1tb HDD and I would like to replace it with a 1tb SSD. I’m just not sure which brand to buy.
I’m not an expert on the subject but if you Google ‘PS3 compatible SSD’ you should get some pointers. I see some models from crucial and Samsung. I wouldn’t invest too much on that, the PS3 is an old machine and while an SSD will improve things, I think a basic one will do 🙂 good luck!
Nice job. But I would not delid as a preventative measure. If after cleaning and new thermal paste the temps/fan speed are too high (CFW or HEN software to check them), then I would consider delidding. Also, you can "Re-merry" a new BD using CFW tools.
Had same problem, and just decided to heat those tokkins up with a heat gun at around 250 degrees very carefully for about a minute, and it did the trick !!! 🎉🎉
I hope I am mistaken and your PS3 can live a long life but that usually "fixes" the RSX graphic chip which is known for failing. The Tokins were probably called guilty too many times - though I am told that on this very PS3 on this video, it was actually the Tokins :) Thanks for watching and congrats!
The “heat trick” doesn’t work on the tokens, they simply don’t. All you did was heat up another component that was broken (likely the RSX) that the heat trick works on. Your system will break again in the future and you gotta deal with the real issue.
ive got two ps3 fats and a og xbox in my cars trunk lol. i think ill take them all apart, and see what i can salvage if the two ps3 dont work, but the og XBOX, id love to fix and keep since i got rid of mine when i was a kid.
Of all the token removal videos I’ve watched you removed those beautifully. I’m still researching the YLOD since it’s basically just telling you there is an issue and it’s left to use to figure that issue out.
Thank you! I've seen videos where they are physically ripped off the board, they give me shivers! Check out RIP-FELIX's video linked in my description, it's pretty informative! Thanks for watching!
12:20 Батарейка должна быть извлечена с платы перед нагревом. Об этом нужно говорить. Я надеюсь вы это сделали перед такой работой. И желательно убирать термопрокладки тоже с чипов.
They are not apparently. There has been a little breakthrough in the "Tokin" tale. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/I0UMG3iVYZI/v-deo.html Thanks for watching!
I have an OG Fat 60GB backwards compat that is freezing in the XMB when I scroll to games. It is 100% an RSX problem as I have already torn it down and tried to reflow it. Before I did that, it was YLOD. But I wouldn't say I fixed it, that's for sure. I wish I had a reball station I really want to get this thing working again!
Good job for reflowing it! If you watch the video I linked in my description from RIP-Felix, you'll find that it's very likely the only fix for your ps3 is to replace the RSX with a newer revision... Not for the faint of heart (that includes me lol) thanks for watching!
It’s a very nice Dell monitor, 27”, all analogue inputs available. But there’s a fault on the flat cable connecting the panel to the electronics. I tried fixing it but I could not and any deeper attempt would likely write off the monitor (those flat cables are not designed to be removed or touched). So I moved it to the workshop 🙂 It started with one line, disappearing when warm. Now it’s a whole bunch of them. If I twist the frame, manually, they change size 🙂
I saw the video you're referring to after I made mine. I mentioned it in the description and in part 2. That said it looks like on this board it was actually the tokins! Rare but apparently it can happen. Thanks for watching!
The Syscon is on the PS3. You need a USB serial adaptor for your computer and then some wires which you'll have to carefully solder on the PS3 motherboard. I recommend this video for a tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/ZvqJQVd5pBY/v-deo.html If the console still boots, you can check syscon logs with a custom firmware, no need to open the PS3. Thanks for watching!
They were very cool! Well, it wasn't Sony, it was the manufacturers of those ICs. nVidia and AMD had the same issue back then. From my understanding they were still refining the process unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
Idk how much longer would make it a profitable venture,, but to release a legacy console would be verry cool. Kinda like those atari retro consoles. Go back and remake the original ps3 that can play ps1 and ps2 games alike! Make it smaller, make it chrome hehe Probably not possible till... 2060 haha
@@tony359 yeah now I know that you can replace that thing that is married to the motherboard. It’s kind of annoying because I thought they didn’t do it on the PS3 but that’s where they started it.
You should change the tokins of cpu too on the first one, because they could fail in the future, nec tokins are pretty awful. I use Mortal Kombat 9 or Komplete to stress consoles. It has a watch mode if you leave it on the title screen.
The Tokins have been mainly "absolved" by their sins - check RIP_Felix's video linked in the description. It turned out that the issue with the RSX is the RSX and - usually - not the tokins. Now, for a coincidence, on this PS3 it seems that the issue WAS the tokins as it has been sold with a warranty and it hasn't come back :) So it's a bit unclear :) Thanks for watching!
No unfortunately, fixing a YLOD PS3 will likely require a new RSX. The toking thing turned out to be more a fairy tale than other. Good luck with that!
If your update failed, you might need to wipe the HDD and reinstall the firmware from a USB stick. That will wipe your account though. Take a look here: www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/34824/I+am+getting+error+code+(8002F147)+on+my+PS3
I have already! I left a comment on the description. Those videos are amazing. Part 2 will mention them so people don’t get misled by my ‘fixing’. Well, let’s take my ‘repair’ as having fun with the PS3 then 🙂
I'm afraid I'm not an expert when it comes to that. Tokins have recently been "partly discharged" of their sins though so I'm not sure. Thanks for watching!
Hey I saw this video and I'm amazed at your skill and I'd like to get advice reference my PS3 is it possible to mail it to u for repairs from the Caribbean
Hey thanks for your comment! I'm not such and expert in PS3 repairs and to be fair it's proven to be a difficult task, see @rip-felix video in the description. But thanks for the offer, appreciated!
The ones I got from Aliexpress turned out not to be so great so I don’t know I’m afraid. Well, if you could get them from a reputable electronics seller, that would be great.
What kind of a sollution you used during delidding? Was something oil based? I delidded one of my ps3 and ... jammed the cpu. And i have to delid my other because it's reaching 80+ temps
It was just a little of oil to help. I don't think it makes a massive difference. What you need is a sharp tool and a steady hand. A drop of oil might help but I don't think it's critical. Good luck and thanks for watching!
The 60 gb model breaks if you play PS2 games for people who can fix it it’s worth to own then it’s playable as long you can fix it 3 broke on me that’s why I no longer want it my 320 gb and 500 gb does fine never broke once it’s not to play PS2 games it to play PS3 games abd unlock trophies 🏆
The Slim and Super Slim models never gave me any problems either. My first PS3 I played on was a Slim but the Super Slim was the first console I ever owned and only one of two I ever purchased for myself (the other a disc version PS5) since my PS4 Slim was bought for me as a birthday present, 6 years strong for that one. I’m ready to get a console collection for my living room with getting a PS4 (1 TB Slim) and PS3 (I’m aiming for the 320 GB Slim) and then for my bedroom a digital PS5. So far it’s disc version PS5 for the living room and PS4 Slim (500 GB) for my room.
Scraping away the solder mask to put those capacitors on seems like a waste. Why not just solder them to their pads and run a bridge wire made from some old through-hole resistor legs across the negative terminals instead and the exposed pad? This is elegant enough, and also makes it easier to repair in the future when these ones also need to inevitably be replaced.
Well, it only takes a few seconds to remove the solder mark. Tantalum caps are not electrolytics, they shouldn't fail over time - and even the Tokins don't normally fail, it's been determined that they are rarely the cause of the YLOD! Thanks for watching!
@@tony359 All capacitors fail over time. I work on retro computers all the time and tantalum caps are known to explode when they get old enough. If you've ever worked on an old IBM 5150, you know that you have to check for shorts on the motherboard power plug and be prepared for the pop of exploding tantalum capacitors when you turn it on for the first time. Vishay and Kemet even provide MTBF calculators, and assuming the PS5 runs at 105C for 2000 hours, those caps WILL degrade and some may fail. Nothing lasts forever.
@@Null_Experis2000 hours is for electrolytics and at 100% rated voltage and temperature. For every 10C cooler they run from rates, life doubles. There are calculators online, It’s normal for electrolytics to get 20+ years out of them unless running hot. ‘Droplet’ Tantalum’s on old IBM fail because they absorb humidity. Those machines are usually improperly stored and seldom used and that can happen. The tantalum you see on the video are a different type, I’ve never encountered a shorted or broken one. I mean, anything can happen but those have the same chances of failing than a resistor or a diode 🙂
man u will fail sometimes but you will learn from it i broke 2 ps3 and after that i was carefull enough to fix the another ps3 it was a CECHAO1 By the way great video as always :)
i used a broken board to try learn how to delid and i scratched the chip lol. anyways i then tried my luck on a working board. delid without any damage to the chips.......... and the wifi/BT stopped working haha
Thanks, I think I read about that. I guess the plan would be to acquire a MB with a faulty RSX and replace Cell, Syscon and NAND/NOR. One day, maybe :) Thanks for watching!
@@tony359 oh also for replacing BD Drives, all phats require a remarry, which can be done in Factory Service Mode. use CFW to enter FSM and remarry the drive. slims do not need remarrying.
Muchas gracias, amigo excelente tu trabajo inspira a trabajar con dedicación y de manera adecuada, desde Venezuela saludos y éxitos amigo muchas gracias 🎉
The only way to truly fix a phat backwards compatible ps3 from getting ylod is replacing the rsx 90nm chip with a slim 40nm through a mod called the Frankenstein
To answer your initial question: is it because you really like the movie Chappie? Oh, never mind. It is just because they're broken. That was my second guess.
I watched "Chappie" a long time ago, I am now very curious of what the reference is with my into! :) Of course, we don't want them if they're not broken! Thanks for watching!
@@tony359 there was a subplot about steeling PS3s to network them together to hold Chappie's brain or something. It has been a while for me, too. Anyway, you asked why you had the PS3s and I guessed wrong.
I have indeed linked that video in the description - I wasn't aware of that before I released mine. Yes, it makes me feel I wasted my time with those capacitors but hey, I had fun :) Thanks for watching!
yes I saw the video after publishing mine - there is a note in the description and also I present RIP Felix's channel in part 2 :) To my knowledge that PS3 is still working though :) I was lucky! Thanks for watching!
Good Job my friend... i wish you could repair mine...it's practicaly new, i had it closed in it's original box for 3 yrs...tried to get it fixed they cleaned it and replaced the thermol paste but no luck on making it work...they couldn't find the problem...probably lack of expierence.... Are you in Florida.... I'll ship to you...?????
Nice video! BUT VERY DANGER if you do this: 25:40 you can break the vram chips! The chance here to break the vram chips is 50:50 on newer PS3's like the CECH-20XX,25xx,30xx etc. It's like russian roulette, it can go good, but it can go very bad! Check: abload.de/image_mobile.php?img=chiprambrokenheatc.jpg On the old fat ladys the chance to break the vram chips is not that high, because there the thermal glue is different. But people's already break them also on the backwards fat lady's. So just take care! Best Regards -> NSC ✌️
Thank you for the heads up - I did see pictures of damaged VRAM and I did see your video where you use a knife to de-lid the GPU. In the end I felt that going with the lever method was a better way but you have way much more experience than I do so I'll keep that in mind, thank you! And thanks for all your tutorials - and for watching! :)
This is what DKOldies needs to watch and take a lesson.
they are scammers
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They wouldn't waste their time on this, have you seen the size of their "Parts" Pile?!
Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for this series of videos which inspired me to try and fix some PS3 consoles myself. I didn't have prior experience and tools to do this but I followed your advice and got everything I needed, including several broken consoles I found on the local marketplace. After I got all prepared it was kind of hard to finally start doing the repairs but today I have finally fixed my first PS3! It was just tokins but it was a lot of fun! I tried to replicate your technique in desoldering the old ones and even though I got the top part melted it was a success! I used RIP-Felix's tantalizer boards to make the replacement capacitors look neat and I'm very happy with the result! Once again, thank you for inspiring me!
You are very welcome and well done for your first repair! Amazing!
yees! A new video from Tony! Really happy to see one again, and grabbing popcorn to enjoy what I am sure is another great video. Please keep up the great work, both in filming, and in repairing stuff :)
Hey thank you! Don't worry, more videos to come! I hope you like it, enjoy!
I like the reference to TronicsFix near the end of the video in regards to the "perfect amount of thermal paste" comment, awesome video
Eheh I watch his videos sometimes! I think I’m stealing from too many UA-camrs though 😂 thanks for watching!
Just some suggestions on the second PS3. When applying thermal paste after a de-lid, apply the paste to the top of the IHS of both chips first (but do not put thermal paste on top of the chip dies themselves). This allows each of the IHS to adhere to the main heatsink AND maintain an orientation that is (as close to) parallel to the surface of the heatsink as possible (the surface of the chip dies themselves will facilitate with leveling). Partially assemble the console up to where the two clamps are secured (to ensure that the IHS are pressed firmly to the heatsink). Now disassemble, and the IHS should be "glued" to the heatsink. Visually inspect the IHS to ensure that they are not tilted. Then proceed to put thermal paste onto the chip dies. Doing it the way you did on the video allows the IHS to "float" between the dies and the heatsink and opens the possibility that the IHS is not parallel to the surface of the heatsink or CPU dies. This in turn results in uneven heat transfer.
Hi there - thank you so much for taking the time to write your feedback. I did watch NSC's videos and indeed it explains the same procedure. Somehow I did not do that for my PS3's, not sure why :) What you say IS the way to go 100%. Eventually those PS3 went to my friend Tim, he's more skilled than I am when it comes to refurbishing so I'm confident he's re-applied the IHS' correctly. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Its good to see things kept out of landfill, but the caps probably cost more than the console was worth haha! Good job.
More or less! :) Thank you!
30$
Good job with the soldering, I have seen other videos where it was really horrible and unsatisfying. I really need to get myself one of those preheaters. Looks like a total gamechanger!
yes, I've seen Tokin's being ripped off the board too! :)
Pre-heater is critical on those boards! Thanks for watching!
Compre una Ps3 slim hace dias jugando online en 2023 hay mucha gente activa es una locura
PS3 never dies :)
Good job extending the lives of these PS3s!
Thank you!
New follower from Italy here, I like your way and your english is damn clear, Don t need subs for any single word from you, that s lovely.
Ciao! Beh, ci ho lavorato su tanto! 😃 Grazie per la visita e per la sottoscrizione! Ho una PS3 da sistemare che cerchero' di fare al piu' presto! Ciao!
The tokin caps are a bit of a myth still, most of the time it's the RSX chip itself failing and replacing the caps prolongs the life a bit but not really solves it.
Research nvidia bump gate for more info.
Rip Felix did an excellent video about a week ago
Wow, I'm watching his video and... wow! Such a detailed and technical video! You just spoiled my success though! LOL - Just kidding. Thanks for mentioning, one of the most informative videos ever watched on the subject!
@@tony359 I was about to rip the tokin's out of one of the backwards compatible ylod ps3's I have laying around when his video popped up.
Was very informative with highly detailed explanations and just enough humor.
Keep watching to the end, you might like the actual fix.
@@samuraidriver4x4 I have. Now I guess I have to improve on my SMD skills and maybe one day I can also fix that COK-002 I totalled a few months ago. What I find incredible is how the community managed to find out these solutions - sometimes improving on Sony's own procedures. It's amazing!
@@tony359 seeing the syscon chip on a 45 degree angle with all the wires between board and chip is just amazing.
Back in the day I did a bit of playstation 1 modding I learned from people around me but now with the internet and the tools that became cheaper it's amazing how communities work together on this.
Another thing that massively helps is that schools are more focused towards electronics and computer engineering opposed to carpentry, metalwork and other hands on occupations 20 years ago.
Besides that the arduino and raspberry pi have made experimenting with electronics and programming more accessible to the masses.
Yes, sometimes I think what I would do if I was a teenager and all these technology was around. I was lucky enough to have an Apple 2 in the home when I was a kid but still it was not something you'd see around very easily.
Hi, nice video. We learn a lot from you. I need your help. I bought a ps3 with ylod and I read the errors with the syscon. I got the error 1002, and I changed one of the Nec tokin in the video. I solved the problem and the console works perfectly, but the only problem is that when I turn it off the red light stays blinking and I can't restart with the controller. The console turns off completely, but I have to press and hold the power button on the console to turn off the red blinking light. Do you know what could be the problem? Would I have to change more nec tokin? Thanks for everything.
Thanks for your comment! I'm not sure to be honest but it feels like a power handling issue. The Syscon looks after that, did you get the error codes by serial or via custom ROM? If you soldered around the syscon IC I would double check that everything is as it should be.
Also, try powering on and off via Syscon, you might get more insight of what is happening. I cannot remember if you need to put the console in diagnostic mode, NSC's document has got everything you need to do that. Good luck!
You have nice tool sets which are required for fine quality repairing
Thank you!
Nice work Tony! Love the de-lid technique.
Thank you! After destroying that poor PS2-compatible one, I was impressed as well. Even though NSCModz is warning me that the GPU could be dangerous that way.
Subscribed. The video was professional right at the start.
Thank you so much!
probably you are the best at desoldering on youtube
Ahah thank you! I wouldn’t go that far but there are definitely worse examples! Thanks for watching!
I have no one locally that will or can repair my YLOD ps3 backwards model, is there any chance you guys can? 😭😭😭 🙏
I'm sorry, I really don't feel competent enough to work on someone else's PS3 I'm afraid. Also please consider the possibility that a YLOD on a backwards compatible PS3 might not be fixable - at least not long term. Sorry and thanks for watching!
What temperature do you use to soften the thermal glue on the heat spreaders? I get paranoid now putting any heat near RSX :)
I understand why! :) I used both 100C for a bit longer or 300C for a shorter time. But considering the RSX die it directly attached to the IHS, maybe 100C for - say - 30s is ok. Good luck :)
I have a 80GB 2nd Gen PS3 fat that i bought new in 2007 and after 10 years of use it started to over heat and i believe only why it took that long was because it always had a fan in front of it, in 2017 I did a DELID and i work on electronics but i was very worried of messing up the CPU as it was the hardest for me to do and with the possibility of scratching the traces but by luck i did it right the first time and i have had no issues with the console this month i revisited opening up the console and replaced the thermal paste again and this time using Artic MX-6 on the CPU and GPU and Artic MX-5 on the Heat Spreaders along with replacing the thermal pads.
I thought finally with this set up i would be done, well come to find out I should had delid the south bridge cause under that is a chip being cooled by thermal paste and come to find out that the south bridge does get warm and needs to be cooled so i ordered some cutting wire that is used to open cell phone screens cause the space between the south bride lid is thinner then the CPU and Ill go ahead and replace the clock batter while its open again.....wish me luck.
sounds like a fun project! Lucky PS3 has a loving owner! Good luck!
I'm looking into using a PC ATX Power Supply for powering my BC PS3 and to reduce the heat around that area where the internal power supply goes. I would like to know what kind of connector/cable can I use for the two rounded gold long prongs on the PS3 (CECHA01 model) motherboard if you can help. Thanks.
Hi there - I do not know if those terminals are standard or not. If you cannot find them you could solder some wires directly at the back of the motherboard. However, the APS-227 features 32A at 12V so you'd need a pretty chunky wire in order not to melt it. That is why computer boards usually have multiple pin connectors. Unless you use a pretty big wire, you're also going to have an excessive voltage drop. In short, I'm not sure you're gaining much here. Thanks for your message!
Hey Tony! I am quite late but I am doing my research on YLOD issues, and I have to say this is one of the best videos on this topic I have seen... most excellent content!! Also, that was the cleanest TOKIN removal I have ever seen!!! Do you remember the temp you pre-heated the board to??
Hey - thanks for watching! Yes, pre-heating is around 150C, my laser thermometer is very handy in measuring that. I know what you mean about the TOKIN removal, thank you! I cringe when I see videos of people literally ripping them off the boards with various tools!! :)
I've got an backwards compatible ps3 in working state, i got the syscon error log from ps3toolset, it has multiple 1001 errros, after cleaning the console (not deliding) and spending some time on power on, the console suddenly after normal shut off, didn't even goes to stand by mode (red light). After changing 2 power cords, the light pop in! Booting the console and got YLOD! After several times of turning off and on, i dissembly it again and reassembly, the console boot up!!! I've check again the syscon and i got 3003 error! The console working normally without ylod (again). till i get it to local electronic store to change the NEC TOKIN Capacitors. Could the problem be those NEC TOKIN?
The role of Tokin's with the PS3 has been recently re-evaluated and it's now believed they're seldom the cause of issues. That said, your PS3 seems to have some power issues so maybe replacing the tokins won't hurt. Remember it's not an easy process... Good luck!
Tokins can temporarily start working again from heat exposure, so I'd leave them for a while amd then try again
Indeed! I believe Tim replaced another one and then the PS3 has worked flawlessly since - so it looks like this one was actually one of those rare Tokin fault! Thanks for watching!
good job. I have a ps3 that plays some games and turns off like the first one in this video. Do you fix it like the first one in the video or not and how much does it cost?
Thanks. It could be anything. Does it beep three times? That’s overheating. If not, it could be really anything. It turns out that tokins are rarely the cause of a fault. Capacitors are not expensive. Tools and skills are 🙂
What’s your advice for replacing the internal hard drive? My PS3 has a 1tb HDD and I would like to replace it with a 1tb SSD. I’m just not sure which brand to buy.
I’m not an expert on the subject but if you Google ‘PS3 compatible SSD’ you should get some pointers. I see some models from crucial and Samsung. I wouldn’t invest too much on that, the PS3 is an old machine and while an SSD will improve things, I think a basic one will do 🙂 good luck!
@@tony359 thanks
Nice job. But I would not delid as a preventative measure. If after cleaning and new thermal paste the temps/fan speed are too high (CFW or HEN software to check them), then I would consider delidding.
Also, you can "Re-merry" a new BD using CFW tools.
Had same problem, and just decided to heat those tokkins up with a heat gun at around 250 degrees very carefully for about a minute, and it did the trick !!! 🎉🎉
I hope I am mistaken and your PS3 can live a long life but that usually "fixes" the RSX graphic chip which is known for failing. The Tokins were probably called guilty too many times - though I am told that on this very PS3 on this video, it was actually the Tokins :)
Thanks for watching and congrats!
The “heat trick” doesn’t work on the tokens, they simply don’t. All you did was heat up another component that was broken (likely the RSX) that the heat trick works on. Your system will break again in the future and you gotta deal with the real issue.
Any videos on fixing USB ports on ps3 motherboard? All my 4 USBs suddenly stopped working at once, so I cannot charge or use anything on them 🤔
No unfortunately - schematics for the PS3 are available, it might be just a fuse. Do you have 5V there?
i have got retrieving data problem in ps3. whats the fault plz tell me
I don't know, sorry
may i ask why people link possitive sites when changing the nectokins? because here, he didnt do that
I'm not sure I understand, sorry. (In Italiano va bene lo stesso! :) )
Hi sir what is the value of capacitor volts and caacitance
You need to check on yours, if you google the code it will tell you what they are.
ive got two ps3 fats and a og xbox in my cars trunk lol. i think ill take them all apart, and see what i can salvage if the two ps3 dont work, but the og XBOX, id love to fix and keep since i got rid of mine when i was a kid.
I hope you can get one working! Thanks for watching!
Of all the token removal videos I’ve watched you removed those beautifully. I’m still researching the YLOD since it’s basically just telling you there is an issue and it’s left to use to figure that issue out.
Thank you! I've seen videos where they are physically ripped off the board, they give me shivers! Check out RIP-FELIX's video linked in my description, it's pretty informative! Thanks for watching!
12:20 Батарейка должна быть извлечена с платы перед нагревом. Об этом нужно говорить. Я надеюсь вы это сделали перед такой работой. И желательно убирать термопрокладки тоже с чипов.
Yes I totally forgot about the battery, I realised afterwards! Good point about pads too.
Why have you not replaced all the nec capacitors? They are prone to failure...
They are not apparently. There has been a little breakthrough in the "Tokin" tale. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/I0UMG3iVYZI/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching!
I have an OG Fat 60GB backwards compat that is freezing in the XMB when I scroll to games. It is 100% an RSX problem as I have already torn it down and tried to reflow it. Before I did that, it was YLOD. But I wouldn't say I fixed it, that's for sure. I wish I had a reball station I really want to get this thing working again!
Good job for reflowing it! If you watch the video I linked in my description from RIP-Felix, you'll find that it's very likely the only fix for your ps3 is to replace the RSX with a newer revision... Not for the faint of heart (that includes me lol) thanks for watching!
What's up with your tv ? Why does it have that line on the right hand side ?
It’s a very nice Dell monitor, 27”, all analogue inputs available. But there’s a fault on the flat cable connecting the panel to the electronics. I tried fixing it but I could not and any deeper attempt would likely write off the monitor (those flat cables are not designed to be removed or touched). So I moved it to the workshop 🙂
It started with one line, disappearing when warm. Now it’s a whole bunch of them. If I twist the frame, manually, they change size 🙂
Do you think you could fix my ps3 ? It’s a fat and it has the same problem
My success rate with PS3 is very low :)
Bearing on the blu ray drive need replaced for the first one I believe
Indeed! Thanks for watching!
weren’t the TOKINS discarded as the culprit?
I saw the video you're referring to after I made mine. I mentioned it in the description and in part 2.
That said it looks like on this board it was actually the tokins! Rare but apparently it can happen. Thanks for watching!
What cables do I need to connect the Syscon module to the ps3?
The Syscon is on the PS3. You need a USB serial adaptor for your computer and then some wires which you'll have to carefully solder on the PS3 motherboard. I recommend this video for a tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/ZvqJQVd5pBY/v-deo.html
If the console still boots, you can check syscon logs with a custom firmware, no need to open the PS3.
Thanks for watching!
We are waiting for part 2
It went live yesterday! ua-cam.com/video/p8NmmKZBfAA/v-deo.html
@@tony359 thanks is there part 3 or not?
@@mr__lightning Not yet - there will be! :)
@@tony359 quick answer I'm subscribe your Chanel
Sony really dropped the ball on the reliability of these. I hate it. These are the best looking ps3 models in my opinion.
They were very cool! Well, it wasn't Sony, it was the manufacturers of those ICs. nVidia and AMD had the same issue back then. From my understanding they were still refining the process unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
Idk how much longer would make it a profitable venture,, but to release a legacy console would be verry cool.
Kinda like those atari retro consoles.
Go back and remake the original ps3 that can play ps1 and ps2 games alike!
Make it smaller, make it chrome hehe
Probably not possible till... 2060 haha
How many volts are the capacitors I use?
The original 0E108 should be 2.5V, 1000uF. I used 4V 470uF.
@@tony359 Could I use a 6 volt one?
@@carlosocanto3895 with capacitors higher is better. That's the maximum voltage they can sustain.
Top work sir. PS3 is daunting to work on. Congrats on the successful fix! Also bonus points for the sound FX in the intro 😁
ahah thank you, I'm getting a bit carried away LOL :) Thanks for watching!
is it sad I know thats a hl01 model just by looking at the board
Why sad, I guess it's normal if you're familiar with the system! :)
Awesome upload , still refurbishing my ps3 , I still want a backwards compatibility
They show up in my area every now and then, often for very little! Good luck and thanks for watching!
I love your work 🥳🥳
Use a "fine fishing line" to slide (floss) under the heat sink of the CPU in order to separate the silicon seal.
Ehm.... No! :) ua-cam.com/video/nXaH3crzauM/v-deo.html
That didn't work well - at least for me! Thanks for watching!
i had a CECHA01 backwards compatible ps3 i got from ebay for way too much before that unfortunately died of the YLOD after a while
Awwww, unfortunately those old ones are more or less all doomed because of the RSX chip… thanks for watching!
Amazing content!
Thank you! More PS3 content coming!
I don’t know exactly what your situation worse I just know that on my PS3 slim I’ve changed out the disk Drive and it still works
Well, not every fault is the same! I'm happy you just needed a new HDD on your console!
@@tony359 yeah now I know that you can replace that thing that is married to the motherboard. It’s kind of annoying because I thought they didn’t do it on the PS3 but that’s where they started it.
After 15 years of great service, my PS3 passed away yesterday. (Red blinking light). It happened suddenly and unexpected.
It's expected unfortunately. I hope someone can fix it for you or give it a second life!
Can i do it in ps3 slim ? Thank you!
I believe the slim also has tokins - but tokins are seldom the issue though.
Congrats! And more videos plizzz ;)
Thank you!
You should change the tokins of cpu too on the first one, because they could fail in the future, nec tokins are pretty awful. I use Mortal Kombat 9 or Komplete to stress consoles. It has a watch mode if you leave it on the title screen.
The Tokins have been mainly "absolved" by their sins - check RIP_Felix's video linked in the description. It turned out that the issue with the RSX is the RSX and - usually - not the tokins.
Now, for a coincidence, on this PS3 it seems that the issue WAS the tokins as it has been sold with a warranty and it hasn't come back :)
So it's a bit unclear :) Thanks for watching!
do you take viewer's PS3 for fixing? Mine just YLOD'd
No unfortunately, fixing a YLOD PS3 will likely require a new RSX. The toking thing turned out to be more a fairy tale than other. Good luck with that!
Can you help me with ps3 error code:
8002F147
If your update failed, you might need to wipe the HDD and reinstall the firmware from a USB stick. That will wipe your account though.
Take a look here: www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/34824/I+am+getting+error+code+(8002F147)+on+my+PS3
Turns on first ps3. If you can hear it. Like we couldn’t hear it. That was loud
I still feel so bad for that PS3....
I recommend watching Ripfelix video on the Syscon and Cap Ps3 stuff
I have already! I left a comment on the description. Those videos are amazing. Part 2 will mention them so people don’t get misled by my ‘fixing’. Well, let’s take my ‘repair’ as having fun with the PS3 then 🙂
could 2124 be related to the 1002 which is nec tokin failure it still shows audio and video through hdmi
Bringup Count: 1054, Shutdown Count: 972
Runtime: 422 Days, 6 Hours, 48 Minutes, 25 Seconds
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I'm afraid I'm not an expert when it comes to that. Tokins have recently been "partly discharged" of their sins though so I'm not sure. Thanks for watching!
Hey I saw this video and I'm amazed at your skill and I'd like to get advice reference my PS3 is it possible to mail it to u for repairs from the Caribbean
Hey thanks for your comment! I'm not such and expert in PS3 repairs and to be fair it's proven to be a difficult task, see @rip-felix video in the description. But thanks for the offer, appreciated!
nice video just subscribed keep up the good work!!😉
Thanks and welcome!
How I get tantalum smd
The ones I got from Aliexpress turned out not to be so great so I don’t know I’m afraid. Well, if you could get them from a reputable electronics seller, that would be great.
Thank you very much sir.
What kind of a sollution you used during delidding? Was something oil based? I delidded one of my ps3 and ... jammed the cpu. And i have to delid my other because it's reaching 80+ temps
It was just a little of oil to help. I don't think it makes a massive difference. What you need is a sharp tool and a steady hand. A drop of oil might help but I don't think it's critical. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Do sell backwards compatible ps3s
I don't but www.youtube.com/@timdark9282 does
The 60 gb model breaks if you play PS2 games for people who can fix it it’s worth to own then it’s playable as long you can fix it 3 broke on me that’s why I no longer want it my 320 gb and 500 gb does fine never broke once it’s not to play PS2 games it to play PS3 games abd unlock trophies 🏆
The Slim and Super Slim models never gave me any problems either. My first PS3 I played on was a Slim but the Super Slim was the first console I ever owned and only one of two I ever purchased for myself (the other a disc version PS5) since my PS4 Slim was bought for me as a birthday present, 6 years strong for that one. I’m ready to get a console collection for my living room with getting a PS4 (1 TB Slim) and PS3 (I’m aiming for the 320 GB Slim) and then for my bedroom a digital PS5. So far it’s disc version PS5 for the living room and PS4 Slim (500 GB) for my room.
Scraping away the solder mask to put those capacitors on seems like a waste.
Why not just solder them to their pads and run a bridge wire made from some old through-hole resistor legs across the negative terminals instead and the exposed pad?
This is elegant enough, and also makes it easier to repair in the future when these ones also need to inevitably be replaced.
Well, it only takes a few seconds to remove the solder mark. Tantalum caps are not electrolytics, they shouldn't fail over time - and even the Tokins don't normally fail, it's been determined that they are rarely the cause of the YLOD! Thanks for watching!
@@tony359 All capacitors fail over time. I work on retro computers all the time and tantalum caps are known to explode when they get old enough. If you've ever worked on an old IBM 5150, you know that you have to check for shorts on the motherboard power plug and be prepared for the pop of exploding tantalum capacitors when you turn it on for the first time.
Vishay and Kemet even provide MTBF calculators, and assuming the PS5 runs at 105C for 2000 hours, those caps WILL degrade and some may fail.
Nothing lasts forever.
@@Null_Experis2000 hours is for electrolytics and at 100% rated voltage and temperature. For every 10C cooler they run from rates, life doubles. There are calculators online, It’s normal for electrolytics to get 20+ years out of them unless running hot. ‘Droplet’ Tantalum’s on old IBM fail because they absorb humidity. Those machines are usually improperly stored and seldom used and that can happen. The tantalum you see on the video are a different type, I’ve never encountered a shorted or broken one. I mean, anything can happen but those have the same chances of failing than a resistor or a diode 🙂
man u will fail sometimes but you will learn from it i broke 2 ps3 and after that i was carefull enough to fix the another ps3 it was a CECHAO1 By the way great video as always :)
Indeed the fun is in the journey 🙂 thank you for watching!
@@tony359 always love watch your videos :)
@@integradogamerz5799 Thank you Sir!
Why not just use a new oem tokin cap
I think they’re pretty expensive and the belief is that they will fail again. Probably just an urban legend.
@@tony359 true i can see being a little hesitant i think its just me when i repair i try to keep it as oem as possible
@@DADDOOTY that’s always a good thing!
i used a broken board to try learn how to delid and i scratched the chip lol. anyways i then tried my luck on a working board. delid without any damage to the chips.......... and the wifi/BT stopped working haha
Check out my first attempt: ua-cam.com/video/nXaH3crzauM/v-deo.html I did a similar thing :)
you cant replace the CELL on ANY ps3, they are married to SYSCON and NAND/NOR. if you have those chips WITH the replacement CELL, it can be repaired.
Thanks, I think I read about that. I guess the plan would be to acquire a MB with a faulty RSX and replace Cell, Syscon and NAND/NOR. One day, maybe :) Thanks for watching!
@@tony359 oh also for replacing BD Drives, all phats require a remarry, which can be done in Factory Service Mode. use CFW to enter FSM and remarry the drive. slims do not need remarrying.
@@kernaltrap Oh, that's easy! I should have searched a bit more, I have some spare drives :) Thanks for mentioning!
Nice work ❤
Thank you for watching!
Good video.
Thank you!
@@tony359 youre welcome keep up the good work. Sorry about your de-lidded cell 😜
20:33 Playing, talking, breathing and thinking all at the same time!
Isn’t that amazing? 😂 I’m not very multitasking so that was something 😂
"Steve jobs repairs ps3's"
Do you see some physical resemblance or are you referring to Steve Jobs’ known competence when it came to fix hardware? 🙂
Very nice video. Thx for showing how it’s done 👍
Thank you!
Muchas gracias, amigo excelente tu trabajo inspira a trabajar con dedicación y de manera adecuada, desde Venezuela saludos y éxitos amigo muchas gracias 🎉
¡de nada! ¡Hola a Venezuela! :)
The only way to truly fix a phat backwards compatible ps3 from getting ylod is replacing the rsx 90nm chip with a slim 40nm through a mod called the Frankenstein
Yes, I also discovered RIP-felix video just after publishing this one, his link is in the description 🙂 thanks for watching!
To answer your initial question: is it because you really like the movie Chappie?
Oh, never mind. It is just because they're broken. That was my second guess.
I watched "Chappie" a long time ago, I am now very curious of what the reference is with my into! :) Of course, we don't want them if they're not broken! Thanks for watching!
@@tony359 there was a subplot about steeling PS3s to network them together to hold Chappie's brain or something. It has been a while for me, too. Anyway, you asked why you had the PS3s and I guessed wrong.
ahaha I forgot about that! Well... :)
for the YLOD you have to change the 65nM RSX to a 40nm from a slim. those chips are defective ua-cam.com/video/I0UMG3iVYZI/v-deo.html
I have indeed linked that video in the description - I wasn't aware of that before I released mine. Yes, it makes me feel I wasted my time with those capacitors but hey, I had fun :) Thanks for watching!
my ps3 fat has 4 USB still works great I wont play it on hot days
19:34 - Welcome to RIP Felix channel)
yes I saw the video after publishing mine - there is a note in the description and also I present RIP Felix's channel in part 2 :)
To my knowledge that PS3 is still working though :) I was lucky! Thanks for watching!
It sounds the power supply
That would have been too easy :)
I call PS3 fat is Zombie they life and dead over" again 😂
Thanks
13:38
0:11 heresy!!! 😂
Makeing a super computer
Ahah, I guess it's not going to be super anymore! Thanks for watching!
"Ultra nsc" he has tons of console fixes and mods for ps3.
Hi - yes, I think I might have linked his channel in the description. Thanks for watching!
A goos console but so many flaws in first models
Ma sei Italiano?
Come mi hanno detto recentemente "tu non sei Italiano, sei Toscano!" :)
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@@tony359 si capisce che parli da tanto l'inglese ma l accento italiano resta sempre. Ho vissuto in Australia e lo sento se uno è italiano ahahhaha
L'accento e le castronerie che ogni tanto sparo saranno sempre presenti! :)
Saluti ai cugini Australiani! :)
wow that ps3 so duty
Hhhhhhhhh😅😅😅😅😅😅
Mmmmmmm
Deutsche 😅😂
Good Job my friend... i wish you could repair mine...it's practicaly new, i had it closed in it's original box for 3 yrs...tried to get it fixed they cleaned it and replaced the thermol paste but no luck on making it work...they couldn't find the problem...probably lack of expierence.... Are you in Florida.... I'll ship to you...?????
I'm across the pond unfortunately and really not the best expert on PS3! Did you try @Toltecmerc ? I don't know if he does PS3s as well.
Nice video! BUT VERY DANGER if you do this: 25:40 you can break the vram chips! The chance here to break the vram chips is 50:50 on newer PS3's like the CECH-20XX,25xx,30xx etc. It's like russian roulette, it can go good, but it can go very bad! Check: abload.de/image_mobile.php?img=chiprambrokenheatc.jpg On the old fat ladys the chance to break the vram chips is not that high, because there the thermal glue is different. But people's already break them also on the backwards fat lady's. So just take care! Best Regards -> NSC ✌️
Thank you for the heads up - I did see pictures of damaged VRAM and I did see your video where you use a knife to de-lid the GPU. In the end I felt that going with the lever method was a better way but you have way much more experience than I do so I'll keep that in mind, thank you! And thanks for all your tutorials - and for watching! :)
@@tony359 yeah, that's right, you always welcome and i hope I'm to 🥰🤗 Subscribed btw. ✌️