@ haven’t pulled for anyone since Ellen Joe banner (except a single ten pull on Jane Doe’s to get a Seth copy) also I’ve been grinding for a while cuz day one player. Hopefully you can get Lighter though!! :)
For Lighter and S11, Caesar will be better than both Burnice and Lucy. Aside from the fact that her buffs are stronger than Lucy's, Caesar's interruption resistance is what really unlocks S11's potential due to how much of her damage is gated behind being able too consistently reach the final hit of her Basic Attack string. If you have Ceasar's W-Engine, then she additionally provides Lighter with a Daze buff, making for incredibly strong stun potential. The other two teams are still great though, it's just a bit strange that the best team was absent from the video.
@jomardimatangal4756 unfortunately, I think I'm gonna skip Lighter. Although I like him, I'm lacking in pulls and can't whale. I already have 2 stun units while on the other hand, I don't have a Lightning/Range S rank DPS. So, I have to bite down my tongue and save my guarantee for Harumasa.
Koleda was my first s-rank but I don’t love using her. I hope I can get both Lighter and Miyabi (unless I lose my 50/50, sorry lighter, then i’d pick you up next rerun)
Well, considering I have Ellen and S11, I want miyabi, and my only stuns are anby and koleda, lighter sounds like a solid pick up, I do also just love his design so there’s that aswell lol
I just got Koleda's W engine and i have everything prefarmed for him. If i will win the 50/50 on him i would like to have his engine so i can save for miyabi too. 160 pulls, 53 pity and a dream
I'm definitely pulling him, i don't have Lycaon (i would have pulled him EVEN if i had Lycaon) and luckily i have Koleda's weapon, i have been waiting for him since the release trailer, but man I'm so disappointed we can't try him out yet in the first phase, so far we were always able to try the second phase character before their release, but that wasn't the case this time
I'm collecting all the Sons of Calydon so Lighter is a must pull for me (unfortunately I failed to get Burnice so she'll have to wait for a rerun) and I have a feeling that if they release Big Daddy as a playable character in the future he'll definitely be a Fire DPS which will make Lighter + Big Daddy a really good duo
I am screwed. I don't have burnice nor soldier 11 and I am definitely skipping Miyabi. I guess I'll build him like standard crit dps or as stunner for my Harumasa next patch.
Dropped about 70+ pulls for Yanagi, leaving me with an anemic 39 pulls at the moment. I sure hope I can get this walking, talking Kamen Rider reference.
185 pulls saved, the last s on an exclusive banner i pulled was caesar and her engine, i skipped Burnice and yanagi so im hoping that i can get him and not miss the 50/50. I hope what i got is enough for him and his w-engine.... At least i have everything he needs. I just need 4 more scarlet engines. Please wish me luck guys🙏🏾😔
is it confirmed he will use Crimson Awe for Expert Challenge? so far only physical units have used it (Nekomata, Corin, Piper) while previous fire units have used Steel Malice, Destructive Advance, and Stealth Phantom
His pretty much a replacement for an existing character rather than playing his own role, thats kinda sad. Can someone help me decide, I don't have Ellen but I have Lycagon E1, Fire team I have Soldier 11, Koleda, Lucy at E3, and Burnice is it even worth to pull for him or just pull for Yanagi's weapon??
Yep, he will debuf ice res, fire res and then buff ice and fire damage, great option for Miyabi if you have both of them + Miyabi will make good use of crit damage buffs from wengine if you have it
Lighter can’t activate his additional passive ability to provide fire and ice damage increase by 15% with Miyabi sense she is an anomaly agent… Lighter requires either an attack agent or a sons of Calydon agent and Miyabi requires an anomaly or same faction member…. The two of them are literally incompatible outside of using burnice as a bridge… Their just not objectively designed to synergize with each other so lighter is an easy skip if you plan on investing in Miyabi…😕
You only get all those benefits namely the 15% damage increase to fire/ice when lighter has his core passive activated which Miyabi can’t…. The only thing that allows you to is having burnice… otherwise lighter is a dud for trying to team with Miyabi period…😕
MAN im so nervous for what i should do. I only have 50 pulls currently and am 67 away from a 50/50, but the thing is, if I WIN the 50/50, I would have to whale on Miyabi's banner, but only if I lose the 50 on her banner. BUT I ONLY HAVE ANBY SO I KINDA NEED A STUNNER 😫😫😫😫
I am a fan of Lighter but I just cant summon for him. 1. He is a bad fit for my account. I have no DPS agents that can make use of his buffs. 2. Miyabi comes right after him! That alone is the greatest deterrent to summon for Lighter
No. Lighter can’t activate his core passive to give 15% extra fire and ice damage to Miyabi… He needs a son of calydon agent or an attack agent… Miyabi is an anomaly unit and the only way to make them work is if you have burince… Outside of that do not pull for lighter if you plan on investing in Miyabi…😓
so there's an update that disabled miyabi from having her recent teams. for example miyabi+lighter+burnice will not work anymore. someone overcooked miyabi
I have a question I got Laycon as the 5 star from standard is he good or should I reroll And who should I chose from the standards Also who is the meta now ?
I remember people galzing lighter like hes a must pull because miyabi is ice and he buffs ice, but now he's just a side/upgrade to lycaon and yanagi is probably more profitable if you are planning to pull for Miyabi.
Lighter might be the most shafted unit rn in Zzz just by virtue of when he’s being released and his extremely niche kit for a small roster of agents he benefits… He can’t even buff fire/ice without a attack agent or sons of calydon faction member and Miyabi is anomaly unit so she can’t even take advantage of it… Lighter doesn’t even buff or debuff enemies as much without his mindscapes compared to f2p and other base game options we already have like Lycaon and soukaku… In the grand scheme rn it’s better to pull for yanagi to pair with Miyabi due to them being in the same faction and being designed to have their kits naturally synergize…😕
@@CrimsonKaiserx8 Yeah I guess one team you can do is a Miyabi+Burnice+Lighter which probably be insane because of "insert premium number" but you also forgo defensive capabilities which is much more important than going for dmg since even 4* solo can clear shiyu also the added bonus that miyabi probably gonna need her sig w-engine not because its broken or she cant function without it but because the lack there-off since shes gonna need a ton of crits according to her "alleged" number by TheoryCrafter and the best 4* option if hoyo dont make new 4* will be piper w-engine which the buff is a gamble and doesnt give crit.
Lighter does not scale or use Crit DMG/Rate. Stack his attack and Pen drpending on your comp. Attck stat is stronger and more useful for Lighter as it can be manipulated and incraese his damage as attack calculations are different in ZZZ. He is DPS stunner as he boosts fire and ice weakness whilst have alot of auti attack hits.
Can you explain the calculations if you know it, I was just planning to do fire dmg % on slot 5 with the chaos jazz 4p set to get 45% fire dmg and then boost that up to around 100% with his additional passive and just try and get lucky with some crit and atk stats i thought that would have been a good build with some good damage unless I’m completely wrong
Thinking Miyabi wouldn't want ice res shred and a massive %ice damage steroid is crazy as hell. Yanagi + Miyabi + Lighter will probably be the BIS team since Qingyi takes too much field time, and Soukaku is clunky to use on top of providing worse buffs than Lighter and no daze.
400+ pulls saved, and I've already pre-grinded most his stuff RAHH I AM SO EXCITED. My favorite zzz character here i come :)
400 HOW-I'm only on 125 pulls 😭
@ haven’t pulled for anyone since Ellen Joe banner (except a single ten pull on Jane Doe’s to get a Seth copy) also I’ve been grinding for a while cuz day one player. Hopefully you can get Lighter though!! :)
Same :) Gl on your pulls
@@SerenicaKristel AW THANK YOU!! GOOD LUCK TO YOU TOO :))
I'm at 245. I want m2r1 but that's unlikely 😅
Good luck on everyone's pulls!
Planning to pull Lighter. He really does look like a Street Fighter character.
More of a KOF character. He is so similar to K’, especially that jump kick and hyper drive (ultimate).
I mean he does share a VA with Luke Street Fighter 6
@@icantthinkofagoodname.3983 photogenic
For Lighter and S11, Caesar will be better than both Burnice and Lucy. Aside from the fact that her buffs are stronger than Lucy's, Caesar's interruption resistance is what really unlocks S11's potential due to how much of her damage is gated behind being able too consistently reach the final hit of her Basic Attack string. If you have Ceasar's W-Engine, then she additionally provides Lighter with a Daze buff, making for incredibly strong stun potential.
The other two teams are still great though, it's just a bit strange that the best team was absent from the video.
100 pulls saved. I'm guaranteed this man so I only have to worry about his Wet Engine
You're not 100% guaranteed since the pity pull is 50% a random S-Rank and 50% Lighter. I hope you get him tho
@@basicbacon5951 I already failed previously with Rina, I failed to mention haha. So I gotta worry how far the pity takes me XD
Hoping you hit that guarantee early so you can get him the wettest of engines.
With having both Lycaon and Koleda, my brain is telling me not to get Lighter, but my heart is telling me i must have that hottie at all cost
me having lycaon, qingyi, and koleda, but still planning on getting this hottie rider lol i love me some stun characters
@jomardimatangal4756 unfortunately, I think I'm gonna skip Lighter. Although I like him, I'm lacking in pulls and can't whale. I already have 2 stun units while on the other hand, I don't have a Lightning/Range S rank DPS. So, I have to bite down my tongue and save my guarantee for Harumasa.
@@crow3769 i have seen zzz news channels say we will get Harumas for free, so no need to bite anything
@@hooktvd288 But those are just rumored leaks and not confirmed, right?
@@crow3769we can wait until it get confirmed, until then I guess we can only assume that he wont be, but I have hope.
One of the reasons I even started playing ZZZ is because of the Street Fighter collaboration. Hopefully that collaboration comes with a lighter event.
Koleda was my first s-rank but I don’t love using her. I hope I can get both Lighter and Miyabi (unless I lose my 50/50, sorry lighter, then i’d pick you up next rerun)
you will get Lighter, 'man'ifest it
I’m with you on that mentality
@@thekaibenz so true thank u 🔥
Lighter is guaranteed for me, YOU WILL win your 50/50 dont plant the seeds of doubt in you gacha pulls.
@@BRabbit0837 i did win! :)
Prepare for Lighter
Make it Brighter
Well, considering I have Ellen and S11, I want miyabi, and my only stuns are anby and koleda, lighter sounds like a solid pick up, I do also just love his design so there’s that aswell lol
i have yet to win a 5050 in zzz so I PRAY LIGHTER WILL BE MY FIRSTT HEWUIEWEUEUEUE
Going E3 DPS lighter 🔥
If coop arrives, I will make the 999 Miyabi mains ascend
I'ma pop in with my S11 to put the Miyabi mains to shame but you're still a hero for this 😉
I just got Koleda's W engine and i have everything prefarmed for him. If i will win the 50/50 on him i would like to have his engine so i can save for miyabi too. 160 pulls, 53 pity and a dream
I'll have to get him on a rerun as I just got Yanagi, but I'll still hope luck pulls through and I get him during this patch :)
I'm definitely pulling him, i don't have Lycaon (i would have pulled him EVEN if i had Lycaon) and luckily i have Koleda's weapon, i have been waiting for him since the release trailer, but man I'm so disappointed we can't try him out yet in the first phase, so far we were always able to try the second phase character before their release, but that wasn't the case this time
Too many broken characters that synergize with each other in a row
I'm collecting all the Sons of Calydon so Lighter is a must pull for me (unfortunately I failed to get Burnice so she'll have to wait for a rerun) and I have a feeling that if they release Big Daddy as a playable character in the future he'll definitely be a Fire DPS which will make Lighter + Big Daddy a really good duo
While I hope this is true, I find it hard to see Big Daddy as a DPS after meeting him.
BIG DADDY
I am screwed. I don't have burnice nor soldier 11 and I am definitely skipping Miyabi.
I guess I'll build him like standard crit dps or as stunner for my Harumasa next patch.
I’m Definitely Pulling for lighter
i dont have neither s11 or ellen, what do i do?
I might pick up Miyabi just to have her. Otherwise itll be Lighter and Ellen rerun.
Dropped about 70+ pulls for Yanagi, leaving me with an anemic 39 pulls at the moment. I sure hope I can get this walking, talking Kamen Rider reference.
185 pulls saved, the last s on an exclusive banner i pulled was caesar and her engine, i skipped Burnice and yanagi so im hoping that i can get him and not miss the 50/50.
I hope what i got is enough for him and his w-engine....
At least i have everything he needs. I just need 4 more scarlet engines.
Please wish me luck guys🙏🏾😔
is it confirmed he will use Crimson Awe for Expert Challenge? so far only physical units have used it (Nekomata, Corin, Piper) while previous fire units have used Steel Malice, Destructive Advance, and Stealth Phantom
His pretty much a replacement for an existing character rather than playing his own role, thats kinda sad.
Can someone help me decide, I don't have Ellen but I have Lycagon E1, Fire team I have Soldier 11, Koleda, Lucy at E3, and Burnice is it even worth to pull for him or just pull for Yanagi's weapon??
I've been saving for him after Zhu Yuan's banner ended(100+ pulls)
Glad I skipped Qingye.
He will be my first 5* stunner.
Why not lighter and lycon?
as someone who as a dmg dps Lycaon, Lighter will also be a dps.
Does Lighter work with Miyabi? As he buffs fire and ice damage, but Miyabi is frost anomaly
Miyabi's frost damage scale of ice, so yes. but if you have lycaon, he is also descent for miyabi.
Yep, he will debuf ice res, fire res and then buff ice and fire damage, great option for Miyabi if you have both of them + Miyabi will make good use of crit damage buffs from wengine if you have it
He works if u have burnice
Lighter can’t activate his additional passive ability to provide fire and ice damage increase by 15% with Miyabi sense she is an anomaly agent…
Lighter requires either an attack agent or a sons of Calydon agent and Miyabi requires an anomaly or same faction member…. The two of them are literally incompatible outside of using burnice as a bridge…
Their just not objectively designed to synergize with each other so lighter is an easy skip if you plan on investing in Miyabi…😕
You only get all those benefits namely the 15% damage increase to fire/ice when lighter has his core passive activated which Miyabi can’t….
The only thing that allows you to is having burnice… otherwise lighter is a dud for trying to team with Miyabi period…😕
yanagi
MAN im so nervous for what i should do.
I only have 50 pulls currently and am 67 away from a 50/50, but the thing is, if I WIN the 50/50, I would have to whale on Miyabi's banner, but only if I lose the 50 on her banner. BUT I ONLY HAVE ANBY SO I KINDA NEED A STUNNER
😫😫😫😫
Good video
I am a fan of Lighter but I just cant summon for him.
1. He is a bad fit for my account. I have no DPS agents that can make use of his buffs.
2. Miyabi comes right after him! That alone is the greatest deterrent to summon for Lighter
Will be pulling for him. If I lose my 50-50, I'll start building my Koleda then 🥺
Will lighter pair well with miyabi?
No. Lighter can’t activate his core passive to give 15% extra fire and ice damage to Miyabi…
He needs a son of calydon agent or an attack agent… Miyabi is an anomaly unit and the only way to make them work is if you have burince…
Outside of that do not pull for lighter if you plan on investing in Miyabi…😓
with burnice yes
@@CrimsonKaiserx8 Bernice or Caesar.
so there's an update that disabled miyabi from having her recent teams. for example miyabi+lighter+burnice will not work anymore. someone overcooked miyabi
@@musashi.5868 now what's the best choice? Yanagi+Burnice+Miyabi?
I have a question I got Laycon as the 5 star from standard is he good or should I reroll
And who should I chose from the standards
Also who is the meta now ?
dont reroll laycon is good stun
You shouldn't worry much about meta. Just have fun, but if you having fun is having the meta...
Then anomaly agents are the meta right now.
Pull em.
@ ok so I’m f2p and I wanna have some good teams so I can pull fun meta
Who should I chose from standard and what is the best standard w engine
Lycoan is a great pick up. Save for Miyabi and build Sokaku and you have a strong Ice team.
I get you might not want to discuss leaks, but can't you just omit saying incorrect things? 5:40
I remember people galzing lighter like hes a must pull because miyabi is ice and he buffs ice, but now he's just a side/upgrade to lycaon and yanagi is probably more profitable if you are planning to pull for Miyabi.
Lighter might be the most shafted unit rn in Zzz just by virtue of when he’s being released and his extremely niche kit for a small roster of agents he benefits…
He can’t even buff fire/ice without a attack agent or sons of calydon faction member and Miyabi is anomaly unit so she can’t even take advantage of it…
Lighter doesn’t even buff or debuff enemies as much without his mindscapes compared to f2p and other base game options we already have like Lycaon and soukaku…
In the grand scheme rn it’s better to pull for yanagi to pair with Miyabi due to them being in the same faction and being designed to have their kits naturally synergize…😕
@@CrimsonKaiserx8 Yeah I guess one team you can do is a Miyabi+Burnice+Lighter which probably be insane because of "insert premium number" but you also forgo defensive capabilities which is much more important than going for dmg since even 4* solo can clear shiyu
also the added bonus that miyabi probably gonna need her sig w-engine not because its broken or she cant function without it but because the lack there-off since shes gonna need a ton of crits according to her "alleged" number by TheoryCrafter and the best 4* option if hoyo dont make new 4* will be piper w-engine which the buff is a gamble and doesnt give crit.
luka.. is that you
Don't care if it takes a while but I will m6
taht elemental of miyabi is frost, so not ice but frost, gets buffed the same as ice, but its frost
No, Miyabi is Ice but she has separate Frost anomaly buildup.
just saw this after getting yanagi😞
Yanagi is still a great character XD
Is lighter next or miyabi? Let it be Lighter. I can skip and save more for the short queen.😅
Miyabi coming on Dec 18 or around that time. So you can save tons for her
Lighter is next then Miyabi and you can skip lighter without regret to save for her!😉
Why you talkjng about Miyabi on a Lighter video?
getting him because he's male and they are rare
Lighter and Miyabi are too closer together, at this point, I don't think I can go for both. Curse you hoyo and your attractive characters
Lighter does not scale or use Crit DMG/Rate. Stack his attack and Pen drpending on your comp.
Attck stat is stronger and more useful for Lighter as it can be manipulated and incraese his damage as attack calculations are different in ZZZ.
He is DPS stunner as he boosts fire and ice weakness whilst have alot of auti attack hits.
Can you explain the calculations if you know it, I was just planning to do fire dmg % on slot 5 with the chaos jazz 4p set to get 45% fire dmg and then boost that up to around 100% with his additional passive and just try and get lucky with some crit and atk stats i thought that would have been a good build with some good damage unless I’m completely wrong
@beatkambo3910 who is in your team with Lighter?
@@iflgames3245 burnice ceaser or burnice Lucy or burnice Jane or burnice miyabi eventually probably
I’m prepared… TO SKIP HIM 😂
He's a second S rank don't forget about lycaon
You mean Miyabi right? lol
Miyabi glares are so annoying
Lighter wont give anything what Miyabi wants,shes only want Yanagi than anybody else's
Yanagi glazers are getting delusional thinking that she's the only viable teammate for Miyabi lol
@@Doctor_Faust17 well, you can play her whatever or however you like especially you got her M2 without it Yanagi her Bis
@@beserklee290lol:)
Thinking Miyabi wouldn't want ice res shred and a massive %ice damage steroid is crazy as hell. Yanagi + Miyabi + Lighter will probably be the BIS team since Qingyi takes too much field time, and Soukaku is clunky to use on top of providing worse buffs than Lighter and no daze.
@@lionel7360 yeah but only for 15% the rest is under his passive that wont activated with Yanagi+Miyabi