For those who are criticizing this guy, he wasn't discussing the legality of both drugs, he was just telling you how they're metabolized. Besides, you already know that modafinil needs a prescription.
You can get adrafinil without prescription and it's cheaper. But people generally say that they need to use 2 pills per day while effects from 1 modafinil pill last whole day.
You sir are AMAZING !! Your my go to source for stuff like this because your the best at explaining things on a molecular level in plain terms. Thanks and keep up the good work man !!
I use Adrafinil and it works. 3 to 1 ratio 600mg of Adrafinil (Equal to 100mg Modafinil )in am on empty stomach for first time(zero tolerance) kept me awake for 20 hours and the next day sucked. I did try 450mg daily for 10 days straight and it was a bad idea. I believe it effected my rem sleep and couldn’t think straight by day 10. Best to use as most literature says to, 2-3 times a week max and take time off. Not a daily nootropic for clear thought but is still effective at keeping you awake, just not mentally sharp.
Your characterization of Adrafinil as “pointless” rubbed some people the wrong way since Adrafinil is cheaper than Modafinil and available OTC. Other than that this was an excellent presentation, and thanks for the heads up on potential liver toxicity with Adrafinil!
Maybe a while ago when it was on patent. Modafinil has been generic for a long time now. Probably a lot of people are overpaying through these online sites.
Great video.Thank you.As a recovering alcoholic who has been on the wagon for almost 5 years next month,and who was an active alcoholic for only 8 years,but especially hit it hard the last 4 ,and who drank alcohol like an Olympic runner drinks water,i am not keen on anything that could potentially be pernicious or harmful to my liver.I already did enough damage to this vital organ.I am surprised (by the grace of GOD)that i even have one lol. That said,though it is tougher to get in the states because you need a prescription for it,unlike adrafinil which is easy to get and cheaper,i would put my money and take my chances with the more expensive and more difficult to attain modafinil.CASE CLOSED!!!!
This is just superb, I have been researching "getting a stiffy" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Aidenzey Hard Framework - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some great things about it and my mate got cool results with it.
@@ThatOneScienceGuy Why do you say it is useless? If Modafinil isn't useless than Adrafinil isn't useless either since as everyone in this comment section knows, adrafinil partially breaks down into Modafinil. It's less useful per unit of mass, but isn't useless.
The problem with Modafinil is that its is a Schedule IV controlled substance, and therefore cannot be purchased without a prescription. I've found Adrafinil to be one of the few neurotropics that is indeed effective to a clearly discernable degree -- worth buying. I'd purchase Modafinil only if it were legal to do so. Regarding liver enzymes, I have a healthy liver, but take N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (a liver protector, as it is converted to glutathione), and wonder if it offers protection from whatever metabolite of Adrafinil might be responsible for elevated liver enzymes. In addition to Adrafinil, I've found amazing results from caffeine and aspirin in combination (please google research on this) and, just recently, caffeine and L-Theanine (again, google for research).
How about the fact that you can legally take adrafinil without a prescription but if you don't have a prescription for modafinil and you get caught with modafinil it is a felony charge of drug possession? Is that not a benefit of adrafinil over modafinil? A legal benefit.
You are indeed very right on this the only reason to take adrafinil over modafinil is due to the fact that in some countries modafinil scheduled substance where as adrafinil is not.
First I have not used either drug. I am just doing some research before I try Adrafinil. Now if Adrafinil cause elevated liver enzymes then Modafinil must do the same. If not then the elevated liver enzymes must be secondary to the increased amount of Modafinil acid that is produced since this is the only difference I see. Both drugs metabolize to Modafinil acid per your discussion. The difference is if you take Adrafinil there 2 points where the pathway goes to Modafinil acid and 1 with Modafinil. So I don't see why one drug would increase liver function test not the other unless it is caused by the Modafinil acid. If that is the case then still both should cause elevated liver test. You would just need higher dose of Modafinil to get the same side effects. Maybe some else is missing with the Adrafinil pathway. I hope that makes sense. Use both sparingly.
Okay, I see your point and I do agree with you completely; Adrafinil is a less effective version of Modafinil. Although while it may be a prodrug and most of it is wasted being converted into Modafinil in the liver, it is legal and is an over the counter substance while as Modafinil, you need a prescription. So that being said, for someone unable to obtain Modafinil, do you think that Adrafinil would be somewhat of a viable substitute? I'd appreicate and would very much respect a response if you could, thanks. great vid btw, you really know what your talking about unlike most other videos i've come across.
May I also add how relieving it is to finally see a video from someone who isn't promoting these drugs as the "magic limitless pill" or trying to get me to buy something but instead is stating the facts. Not swaying to one side or the other, Truly Impartial. I commend and thank you sir.
Patrick O'Neill your brain gets the same chemical with either modafinil or adrafinil, it's not less effective. It's just less potent, meaning you need more of adrafinil to achieve the same effects as modafinil
Could anyone comment further on potential liver damage? I'm guessing it's only thought to possibly cause it due to increased liver enzymes, but I would really like more information on how potentially dangerous it may be. I've been interested in trying adrafinil for a while now. Would be nice if I could just, y'know, try modafinil, though.
Being a DRI, I imagine adrafinil and in turn modafinil would give me approximately the same effect as cocaine (obviously to lesser/weaker extent) in that it's OK for the first couple hours and then anxiety and a general feeling of dread.
would you be able to guide someone towards a reputable vendor, where modafinil could be delivered. Im in Canada and dont want the package to get stuck in customs. Thank you in advance.
I would love to see a adderall vs modafinil! I know they are quite different, but they are used for the same purpose (study wise, I know they have other and separate uses as well). Anyway keep up the great work!
+Sons of Apollo wow! thanks so much! I really like your content, so it's really nice to see that you listen to your viewers. Again, keep up the great work!
+BaldManLogan Modafinil might be weaker than Adderall, but there's more downsides & side effects with the latter drug.... It seems like Modafinil gives you smoother & cleaner energy, while some people get more of a rush from Adderall. Both could give a person sleep problems, but continued Adderall use could result in nervousness, vomiting, weight loss, decreased sex drive, and heart palpations, to name a few.... Also, there's the fact that Modafinil is more legal than Adderall. Some countries require a prescription in order for Modafinil to be used legally. Adderall, on the other hand, is banned from most sports and you can even get arrested for using it. People are free to use either one, but I'm just giving out my take on it.
I disagree that Adrafinil is pointless. It works. I have taken both. But you'll have to take 300 - 600 mg. If you can't get Modafinil, then get Adrafinil. I do prefer Modafinil for the reasons presented in the video.
Hey man, thanks alot for the video. I was considering ordering Adrafinil, but after seeing this I think I might just pass on it and try to obtain real Modafinil instead. Thanks again! Subbed.
A very good description of both compounds but I completely disagree with your advantage/disadvantage opinion simply because of the legal status, huge price difference and the ease of purchasing adrifinil. For a few dollars anyone can purchase a bottle of adrifinil on Amazon without a prescription for basically the same thing.
This really was not about the legal status. Legal status also depends on what country the person is in. This was about the compounds on their own merits.
I just ordered Adrafinil about a month ago. I have never taken modafinil but Ive been taking Adrafinil for about 3 weeks and haven't experienced any effects whatsoever. Nothing. I ordered a bottle of it from Nootropics City. Just my opinion but it might be different for everybody. Waste of my money though.
@@LetsBoogieLetsDance Did you read what he wrote? He clearly said that he "haven't experienced any effects whatsoever". How do you go from " haven't experienced any effects whatsoever" to "be a genius doing nothing"?
This was not a part of the video, but another issue is that many of these "supplements" have little to no oversight in the manufacturing process. Very often people do not even receive what they are sold.
Garrett Maddox not bad for the first day, took one 300mg in the morning and one in the afternoon. subtle focus, but got a lot done! hope ur experience is good lol
brandonbursley nootropicsdepot has always the best. Solid stuff with third party certificate of analysis. Take two to three times the amount of modafinil for optimal effects.
The fact that you didn't point out modafinil is a controlled substance and adrafinil isn't makes you lose all credibility whether one is worth taking over the other.
If you need a modafinil prescription and your doctor refuses to write one then your doctor sucks. Yes, a lot of doctors suck but sometimes you have to take your business elsewhere in order to have your needs met. People who act like it is impossible to attain a prescription are being silly
For those who are criticizing this guy, he wasn't discussing the legality of both drugs, he was just telling you how they're metabolized. Besides, you already know that modafinil needs a prescription.
You can get adrafinil without prescription and it's cheaper. But people generally say that they need to use 2 pills per day while effects from 1 modafinil pill last whole day.
Hallucinogenichusky honestly I feel the opposite.
You sir are AMAZING !! Your my go to source for stuff like this because your the best at explaining things on a molecular level in plain terms. Thanks and keep up the good work man !!
Thanks! Much appreciated!
The only benefit of adrafinil is that it’s unregulated in some countries but even then you have to wonder how pure the brand is.
Best comprehensive video I've seen on the differences. Thank you for explaining so well! Are you a teacher? lol
Thanks I appreciate it! Its a hobby.
I use Adrafinil and it works. 3 to 1 ratio 600mg of Adrafinil (Equal to 100mg Modafinil )in am on empty stomach for first time(zero tolerance) kept me awake for 20 hours and the next day sucked. I did try 450mg daily for 10 days straight and it was a bad idea. I believe it effected my rem sleep and couldn’t think straight by day 10. Best to use as most literature says to, 2-3 times a week max and take time off. Not a daily nootropic for clear thought but is still effective at keeping you awake, just not mentally sharp.
Your characterization of Adrafinil as “pointless” rubbed some people the wrong way since Adrafinil is cheaper than Modafinil and available OTC. Other than that this was an excellent presentation, and thanks for the heads up on potential liver toxicity with Adrafinil!
Maybe a while ago when it was on patent. Modafinil has been generic for a long time now. Probably a lot of people are overpaying through these online sites.
Great video.Thank you.As a recovering alcoholic who has been on the wagon for almost 5 years next month,and who was an active alcoholic for only 8 years,but especially hit it hard the last 4 ,and who drank alcohol like an Olympic runner drinks water,i am not keen on anything that could potentially be pernicious or harmful to my liver.I already did enough damage to this vital organ.I am surprised (by the grace of GOD)that i even have one lol. That said,though it is tougher to get in the states because you need a prescription for it,unlike adrafinil which is easy to get and cheaper,i would put my money and take my chances with the more expensive and more difficult to attain modafinil.CASE CLOSED!!!!
It shouldn't be very expensive these days. $20-$30 for a month.
@@sonsofapollo4652 Would that be with a prescription? I think that’s what makes it difficult more than the cost.
Thank you very much for the clarification. It was great.
Thanks!
Thanks for the informative video. I now know to avoid adrafonil.
No prob!
Adrafinil is just simpler to get. That's it's only real advantage, but it's a pretty big one.
adrafinil gives me anxiety a two hours later every time. never bought again.
How about Hydrafini, and Fladrafinil? Anyone??
Something you didn't mention is that modafinil requires a prescription while adrafonil does not
Jon Waters i was going to write that myself. Very good point my friend. The very reason i ordered adrafinil, legally, w/o a script, online
Where can i get some modafinil
This is just superb, I have been researching "getting a stiffy" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Aidenzey Hard Framework - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some great things about it and my mate got cool results with it.
Because not requiring a prescription makes this useless and potentially damaging drug suddenly worth taking? Lol.
@@ThatOneScienceGuy Why do you say it is useless? If Modafinil isn't useless than Adrafinil isn't useless either since as everyone in this comment section knows, adrafinil partially breaks down into Modafinil. It's less useful per unit of mass, but isn't useless.
The problem with Modafinil is that its is a Schedule IV controlled substance, and therefore cannot be purchased without a prescription. I've found Adrafinil to be one of the few neurotropics that is indeed effective to a clearly discernable degree -- worth buying. I'd purchase Modafinil only if it were legal to do so. Regarding liver enzymes, I have a healthy liver, but take N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (a liver protector, as it is converted to glutathione), and wonder if it offers protection from whatever metabolite of Adrafinil might be responsible for elevated liver enzymes. In addition to Adrafinil, I've found amazing results from caffeine and aspirin in combination (please google research on this) and, just recently, caffeine and L-Theanine (again, google for research).
It probably doesn't offer any protection, most of those type of strategies don't work.
How about the fact that you can legally take adrafinil without a prescription but if you don't have a prescription for modafinil and you get caught with modafinil it is a felony charge of drug possession? Is that not a benefit of adrafinil over modafinil? A legal benefit.
The fact that it doesn’t require a prescription is meaningless when the drug is essentially useless.
@@ThatOneScienceGuy May not be as good but still works great....And no scrip needed.
You are indeed very right on this the only reason to take adrafinil over modafinil is due to the fact that in some countries modafinil scheduled substance where as adrafinil is not.
That would be the only logical reason to take it if presented with both.
First I have not used either drug. I am just doing some research before I try Adrafinil. Now if Adrafinil cause elevated liver enzymes then Modafinil must do the same. If not then the elevated liver enzymes must be secondary to the increased amount of Modafinil acid that is produced since this is the only difference I see. Both drugs metabolize to Modafinil acid per your discussion. The difference is if you take Adrafinil there 2 points where the pathway goes to Modafinil acid and 1 with Modafinil. So I don't see why one drug would increase liver function test not the other unless it is caused by the Modafinil acid. If that is the case then still both should cause elevated liver test. You would just need higher dose of Modafinil to get the same side effects. Maybe some else is missing with the Adrafinil pathway. I hope that makes sense. Use both sparingly.
Adrafinil is converted by the liver to modafinil, hence can cause liver problems.
@@edmundhughes1285 I don't see the inherent correlation
Okay, I see your point and I do agree with you completely; Adrafinil is a less effective version of Modafinil. Although while it may be a prodrug and most of it is wasted being converted into Modafinil in the liver, it is legal and is an over the counter substance while as Modafinil, you need a prescription. So that being said, for someone unable to obtain Modafinil, do you think that Adrafinil would be somewhat of a viable substitute? I'd appreicate and would very much respect a response if you could, thanks. great vid btw, you really know what your talking about unlike most other videos i've come across.
May I also add how relieving it is to finally see a video from someone who isn't promoting these drugs as the "magic limitless pill" or trying to get me to buy something but instead is stating the facts. Not swaying to one side or the other, Truly Impartial. I commend and thank you sir.
Patrick O'Neill your brain gets the same chemical with either modafinil or adrafinil, it's not less effective. It's just less potent, meaning you need more of adrafinil to achieve the same effects as modafinil
You should peep flmodafinil
Very interesting. Thanks for the science of this.
No prob!
Sure, but adrafinil doesn't require a prescription and seems to be less expensive than modafinil.
You said there's no point in taking adrafinil because it is less effective than modafinil. Do you not see the problem with that statement?
None.
Could anyone comment further on potential liver damage? I'm guessing it's only thought to possibly cause it due to increased liver enzymes, but I would really like more information on how potentially dangerous it may be. I've been interested in trying adrafinil for a while now. Would be nice if I could just, y'know, try modafinil, though.
What are the frozen cods.
Where do I find modafinil
Your doctor
@@alexjay8936 hey do u ship overseas??
Being a DRI, I imagine adrafinil and in turn modafinil would give me approximately the same effect as cocaine (obviously to lesser/weaker extent) in that it's OK for the first couple hours and then anxiety and a general feeling of dread.
would you be able to guide someone towards a reputable vendor, where modafinil could be delivered. Im in Canada and dont want the package to get stuck in customs. Thank you in advance.
Christian Zuniga in India you don't need prescription am using sun pharma's brand modalert go check it online
I'm not sure what the rules are in Canada, but it should be purchasable through a pharmacy. It should not be very expensive.
@@chahal6 Can I order in the US?
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I would love to see a adderall vs modafinil! I know they are quite different, but they are used for the same purpose (study wise, I know they have other and separate uses as well). Anyway keep up the great work!
+Ryan Staudacher Sure thing! I'll do that one very soon.
+Sons of Apollo wow! thanks so much! I really like your content, so it's really nice to see that you listen to your viewers. Again, keep up the great work!
Ryan Staudacher adderall blows modafinil out of the water
+BaldManLogan
Modafinil might be weaker than Adderall, but there's more downsides & side effects with the latter drug....
It seems like Modafinil gives you smoother & cleaner energy, while some people get more of a rush from Adderall. Both could give a person sleep problems, but continued Adderall use could result in nervousness, vomiting, weight loss, decreased sex drive, and heart palpations, to name a few....
Also, there's the fact that Modafinil is more legal than Adderall. Some countries require a prescription in order for Modafinil to be used legally.
Adderall, on the other hand, is banned from most sports and you can even get arrested for using it.
People are free to use either one, but I'm just giving out my take on it.
Adderall is a stimulant, modaf is not. Adderall is amphetamine, and tweaky shyt. Don't do either.
Why don't you do a video about the difference between Armodafinil and Modafinil a much better comparison?
I believe I did. Provigil vs Nuvigil.
@@sonsofapollo4652 Maybe you can do Sunosi vs. Wakix. That would be interesting.
How do you feel after taking these med? Pls reply. I have ADHD.
I disagree that Adrafinil is pointless. It works. I have taken both. But you'll have to take 300 - 600 mg. If you can't get Modafinil, then get Adrafinil. I do prefer Modafinil for the reasons presented in the video.
Aside for reasons which you mention, but if you could take either, it would make more sense to get modafinil.
Useful presentation.
Thanks!
Hey man, thanks alot for the video. I was considering ordering Adrafinil, but after seeing this I think I might just pass on it and try to obtain real Modafinil instead. Thanks again! Subbed.
LucasLA hey how can i get some modafinil
Hey, no prob man. Let me know if there is anything else I can try to answer.
A very good description of both compounds but I completely disagree with your advantage/disadvantage opinion simply because of the legal status, huge price difference and the ease of purchasing adrifinil. For a few dollars anyone can purchase a bottle of adrifinil on Amazon without a prescription for basically the same thing.
This really was not about the legal status. Legal status also depends on what country the person is in. This was about the compounds on their own merits.
* yawn * basically they're the same ! * yawn *
Basically 😴
I just ordered Adrafinil about a month ago. I have never taken modafinil but Ive been taking Adrafinil for about 3 weeks and haven't experienced any effects whatsoever. Nothing. I ordered a bottle of it from Nootropics City. Just my opinion but it might be different for everybody. Waste of my money though.
Bath Water have you tried to work with it ? Or you expected to be a genius doing nothing ?
@@LetsBoogieLetsDance
Did you read what he wrote? He clearly said that he "haven't experienced any effects whatsoever".
How do you go from " haven't experienced any effects whatsoever" to "be a genius doing nothing"?
This was not a part of the video, but another issue is that many of these "supplements" have little to no oversight in the manufacturing process. Very often people do not even receive what they are sold.
VERY INFORMATIVE.
THANK YOU
You are welcome!
Its over the counter and you don't have to pay out a#% going to a Dr kind of sounds like you work for big pharma
What's over the counter?
The patent is been expired for years. It should not be more than $25.
Means you don't need a prescription from a doctor to buy it. Advil is an example of an over the counter drug.
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thanks
unfortunately, i purchased Adrafinil before watching this. thanks for clarifying. i'll still try it out, and update you on the details!
corndog984 me to ctfu
Garrett Maddox not bad for the first day, took one 300mg in the morning and one in the afternoon. subtle focus, but got a lot done! hope ur experience is good lol
corndog984 where did you get yours from?
brandonbursley nootropicsdepot has always the best. Solid stuff with third party certificate of analysis. Take two to three times the amount of modafinil for optimal effects.
The fact that you didn't point out modafinil is a controlled substance and adrafinil isn't makes you lose all credibility whether one is worth taking over the other.
That is an opinion
Legal status also depends on what country the person is in. This was about the compounds on their own merits.
google translate?
I took 1200mgs of adrafinil and it did nothing for me. Guess it's not my nootropic sad face
haha when someone click on a video with this title were not looking for chemical equasions... we want to know what the pharmacist would say!!
If you need a modafinil prescription and your doctor refuses to write one then your doctor sucks. Yes, a lot of doctors suck but sometimes you have to take your business elsewhere in order to have your needs met. People who act like it is impossible to attain a prescription are being silly
Gotta do what you gotta due, but if you have a choice, you are just making your body do extra work with the adrafinil.
I bought fluorinated modafinil for "research purposes" only. Its legal only if you agree to use it on your lab rat lol
John Eff send me the link
Goodbye pineal gland
I would be careful with that. Even very small changes in the drug can lead to very different, potentially very unwanted, effects.
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I think I used to beat this guy in elementary school.
i really want to get to know you. do you have twitter/tg/discord?