The CIS had more numbers. By the end of the clone wars the droid army was numbered in the quintillions which was more than any population of sentient beings in the galaxy.
@@Pocoentertainmentstudioyeah your right "for the seperatist alliance!" Sounds like it's a final battle and "for the empire!" Sounds a battle cry at the start of the battle before charging at the enemy
They were moraly corect so fuck it i am inn, i like the estetick of the empire and the republic beter but the CIS was moraly corect with leaving the republic just remove duku and i wuld consider it. Edit: forgot to mention, for the sepratist aliance
Super weapons should go to CIS, because it was them, who created the plan for death star. Not to mention they have more plans to create superweapons, but couldn't follow through it, cause Palpatine held them back.
@@tutu28clone Don't forget that old republic era artifact they dug out in legends, *Dark Reaperor Force Harvester* or whatever they call it. Some statements say it was just as deadly as death star
@@anshunath3290The empire axtually weilds weapons greater than the Death Star if you read the comics. Notice how when a Star Wars faction is put up agains the imperium the only one most peole agree would have a fighting chance against that horrid theocracy is the empire
Lemme debunk this. The separatists far outnumbered the empire (this is logic just by looking at the factories on geonosis and elsewhere) The empire on average didn't have better military leaders. Most star destroyer captains were incompetent and were hated by their troops. The only good leaders I can think of off the top of my head from the empire are Veers, Thrawn, and Vader. There were others but due to antagonization from tarkin (partially) many of them either ended up dead or left the empire. The empire didn't have better starfighters at all. The TIE fighter was extremely cheap and easy to destroy. The vulture droid was far faster and more capable than a TIE fighter. The only argument you could make about the empire having a superior starfighter would be the TIE defender which wasn't implimented nearly enough to make a valid point. I dont know much about imperial generals so you may be right. Veers was a great general. But if you base it off the comics than grievous was a genuinely good general (up for debate on who's better though) Thrawn was a large exception when it came to imperial admirals. If you're talking about who had the singular best admiral than fine but if it's in general than thrawn doesn't make a huge difference. Even in the clone wars series which was heavily biased against the separatists, they still had incredible admirals (trench for example) Infantry is debatable based on what you define as infantry. For example is infantry just tue b1 battle droids or does it count for the b2 battle droid and all its varients? Because b2 battle droids are extremely strong and durable, not to mention the heavy assault varient that gives it a rocket launcher. Special forces is just wrong. The separatists had droidekas that were basically invulnerable to blaster fire and you jeeded a rather technical method to destroy them (throwing a droid popper or thermal detonator is just the right way to get through its shield, sneak up behind it, or destroy it while it's rolling. Commando droids are fast and extremely tactical, likely moreso than most special forces in the empire. Magnaguards are self explanitory. Ok now for the leader, its a bit odd to cover since palpatine played both the republic and separatists during the clone wars, but we're going to say that dooku lead the separatists since he mostly did. Dooku was overall a better leader than palpatine. Palpatine created a system in the empire that wasn't based on merit, but instead on loyalty. Dooku overall was very kind to most of his associates whether it be military commanders, parliament, or the separatist council, and he overall promoted freedom to all the worlds in separatist space. I was gonna argue the part about the enforcers but ehhhhh, that one is honestly right. The superweapon arguement is tricky. The geonocians designed the death star, and they were separatists, but the empire built and controlled it, so it's somewhat debatable. In the end the empire versus separatists is a debateable topic that can't really be solved just off of basic factors like who has more numbers or who has the biggest super weapon. I hope this has enlightened some that there isn't any certain way to tell who would win due to there being so many factors. Thank you all for reading (i know you skipped some), goodbye.
The Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) had a unique advantage in battle due to their use of droid armies. These droids were programmed to follow orders without question, making them ideal for executing complex tactics quickly and efficiently. On the other hand, the Galactic Empire relied heavily on human soldiers, who were less maneuverable and could be swayed by emotions like fear and doubt. In addition, the CIS utilized a variety of different droids for different purposes, ranging from small, agile battle droids to massive, heavily armed droidekas. This allowed them to adapt to different battle situations and overcome tactics used by their opponents. The Rebel Alliance, which also relied heavily on guerrilla tactics, would have found it difficult to predict the CIS's tactics and react accordingly. Furthermore, the CIS's ships were designed for more tactical maneuvering, rather than brute strength. The Providence-class cruisers, for example, were particularly effective at flanking maneuvers and surprise attacks. The Imperial navy, on the other hand, relied on larger, more heavily armed vessels, which meant they were less capable of quick, tactical maneuvers. One example of the CIS's effectiveness in battle is the Battle of Ryloth, which was detailed in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. In this battle, a small CIS fleet successfully outmaneuvered a much larger Republic fleet by using unpredictable tactics and overwhelming firepower. Overall, the CIS's use of droids and tactical flexibility gave them an advantage over both the Republic and the Rebel Alliance. While the Galactic Empire had access to larger, more powerful warships, they lacked the CIS's ability to quickly adapt to changing circumstances on the battlefield. So in my opinion the C.I.S would have a a closer fight.
@@thegingerbreadgod1312if it was AI it wouldn't even know what a droid is in Star wars. But, the 2008 clone wars nerfed the B1 battle droids they made them sentinal.
Absolute cap, by the end of the clone wars, droid numbers were estimated in the quintillions, which is more than the empire had in civilian (CIVILIAN) members. Same for any navy, ground or whatever vehicles, the CIS just had numbers you couldn't defeat. And with no exaggerating, if the CIS didn't have sith leadership with a bigger plan, it would literally have been the greatest, most morally correct and most independent army in the entire history of the star wars galaxy. Palpatine actually had to step in several times because the cis would've just crushed the republic with their new troops, numbers or tactics, which is the only reason why in everyone's eyes "they lost". Otherwise they wouldn't have had any problem, and neither would they have had with the empire.
Makes you wonder why Palpatine just didn't make sure the CIS would win so they could hunt down and destroy the jedi, then reveal himself to be the mastermind behind it all after the jedi were dead
@@stevenwright1829 he had control over the clones as well. And he didn’t want to be seen as the leader of the CIS because it would give him a bad political image and people would not vote for him
i think this man forgot humans were better then droids so numbers doesn't mean everything and the empire has the inquisitors special forces and way better tech and more armored viechels ect
@@TueyAmos "Star Wars: Uprising states that the Empire had 25,000 Imperial Star Destroyer with 45,000 Stormtroopers aboard the vessel. Now if we do simple math, that would come out to 1.1 billion. The Galactic Empire never revealed the true number of Stormtroopers. As far as we know, there were billions." So either you dont know how to speak english and you dont know what "thousands" means or you just delusional mate, how the most powerful and biggest Superpower in the whole galaxy can use only "thousands" of stormtroopers
agreed. although the sheer amount of Droid starfighters might pose some difficulty in space superiority, the Empire is just built to outgun anything they come across
The thing is that TIE fighter tactics are the exact same toward the CIS starships, swarm tactics with low firepower. Tie fighters in terms of weapons are near identical to vulture droids, except one has smarter brains and larger amounts of ships, I wonder who’s gonna win? The copy cat or the one who did it better
Yah, this. Empire has a few gems... Thrawn, Veers, etc. but many of their officers are notoriously stupid, promoted on a political basis rather than on merit and despised by their troops. Meanwhile, the CIS builds supercomputer tactical droids 🤣
The empire holds a special place in my heart but the droids are so iconic and memorable and I love them both equally. Also the droids had MUCH more numbers than the empire
@@jeffproplay The Empire technically has the entire galactic population to pull from in order to fuel their war. In spite of how large the droid army is, even they can't scale to that.
@@kingorange7739 the droid army had quintillions, they outnumbered every organic army to date. Not only that, you have to subtract every planet owned by the Hutt Cartels and the rebellion, considering the rebellion started up right after galactic takeover. As well as the independent systems and other crime organizations.
@@jeffproplay The quintillion number has been disputed as CIS propaganda and when you account for the droid cost, it is not hard to grasp why. If you would like to hear the numbers, I will gladly read them here.
The CIS lost to the Galactic Republic, the Galactic Empire has better equipment and much larger weapons than the Republic had. The empire just has worse infantry than the Republic since it has enlisted men isn't of clones that were raised to be soldiers.
It would bé incrédible if the separatist Reborn during the empire era. They would be a very powerful ennemy for the empire. It's so complicated to say who's gonna win. Personally, the fact that the CIS can produce more and more soldier is a heavy advantage compare to the empire. Long life to the CIS
The CIS could be revived provided that technically and politically they were at the level of the end of the clone wars, because in non-canon there was a separatist uprising and of course it was suppressed, but it was not as large-scale as during the clone wars. Even if we take the beginning of the clone wars with all its living creatures: Dooku, Grievous, the Separatist Council, the dark successors of Dooku, Durge, Ventress, who is still on the side of the CIS, then their chances of victory would be enormous, and without all the former separatist leaders, then there will definitely be no victory
I would give the super weapon point to the CIS considering they built the malevolence, and also designed the original plan for the Death Star before imperial architects added more stuff onto it and made it redundant because of stardust
I have just recently watched this video and I don't agree with this and I do have some proof. 1. Number, CIS Wins: Now I did some research and the only thing I could find was the Empire had almost around 300 million troops plus pilots and officers that could probably make a billion But The Cis had almost a trillion troops with different variants. Plus it had some living beings so that can also be around a couple million. We also have to factor that there were just so many different types of vehicles in CIS then the Empire. 2. Trooper Variety, CIS Wins: Now this one you are correct the CIS had so many different variants of Droids that pretty much every Droid was made for every single situation. The Empire did have a variance of different troops but not by much. 3. Battle Exp, CIS Wins: you're also correct on this one and CIS had way more experience than the Empire. 4. Navy, CIS Wins: once again you're also correct on this one the CIS had way more different types of ships for every situation. Yes the Empire had better ships and some areas but CIS had so many different variants of different ships that they swarm the empire. 5. Better Warship, Empire Wins: now once again this is going to be a hard one because the Empire does have better ships but there are more vulnerable but the CIS does have one ship that could pretty much destroy any imperial ship and that is a Malevolence. The Malevolence can just shoot a EMP blast at any ship and all the power will cut off. Making any imperial ship defenseless and the CIS can just wipe them out easily. The only problem was was that there were only like a couple Malevolence ever made so the Empire will have a better chance. 6. Military Leaders, TIE: Now to be honest the CIS in my opinion has the better leadership in the military and most of the time in the Empire. The leadership are just bad. The only reason why this is tie because the empire's best leader is admiral thrawn. And he is like the only imperial Commander that can actually get the job done but other than that the CIS would probably have a better chance. So give this a Tie. 7. Starfighters, CIS Wins: To be honest CIS wins in a landslide. The CIS in my opinion has the best starfighters and the Vulture Droid vs Tie Fighter. This is an easy win for the Vulture Droid. Yes there was one TIE fighter variant that was pretty much unstoppable but the Droid fighters just had so much that they would just swarm the Empire. 8. Better Tactics, CIS Wins: To be honest the CIS had way better tactics than the Empire and I don't think I have to say more. 9. Better Generals, TIE: The only reason why this is a tie is because the Empire had Admiral Thrawn but other than that the CIS had way better generals than anybody In The Empire. The Empire just had just too much ego and CIS we're more defensive with their tactics. So I would generally say the CIS would have won for the generals. 10. Better Admiral, Empire Wins: Once again Admiral Thrawn is just too good but I do think Admiral Trench would be a challenge for Admiral Thrawn. 11. Infantry, CIS Wins: Now I'm going to be honest I'm not saying you have done your research but the CIS just had way better infantry and they had different variants. Also most of the empire's infantry were just bad. Yes or some infantry that was pretty good but other than that the CIS are just better with their infantry. 12. Special Forces, CIS Wins: Now I do know that the Empire has probably better Special Forces but the CIS has different droids for their special forces that they can do different tasks. So I do believe the CIS would have won in the special Forces Calgary. 13. More Force Users, Empire Wins: This is correct empire does have more Force Users. 14. Leader, Tie: The only reason why this is a tie is because The Empire and The CIS are both control by palpatine so this is why it's tie. 15. Enforcers, Empire Wins: Yeah Darth Vader is a great Enforcer but I do think General Grievous can hold on his own if he plays smart. 16. Super Weapons, Tie: Now I know what you're thinking the Death Star should probably easily destroy any CIS ship but I think that's not true. Now once again the CIS does have the Malevolence and If the Malevolence shoots it's EMP blast it will just turn off all power making the Death Star vulnerable to any attacks. This is why this is a Tie. Also I forgot to mention that the CIS made the Death Stars plans. So this means the CIS will know the Death Stars weakness So the score should be CIS 12 and The Empire 8: Winner Confederacy of independent systems: MID-HIGH DIFF.
The CIS had well over a trillion in canon :D also the Malevolence is called a Subjugator-Class! Not only this about the point with the death star the CIS designed it! So therefore they would know every weakness, however the Subjugator Class does have limits, the ion beam puts massive strain on the power and depending on how large the vessel is the Malevolence beams would only affect it for a certain amount of time.
This would probably have been the closest fight if it had actually happened, the empire has the advantage in firepower and battleships, but the separatists have larger numbers especially in the commando droids and tri fighters. Also i have no doubt the inquisitors would get destroyed by grievous and ventress, but vader would clean house. I’m gonna say empire, but very very close
Thing is vader and inquisitors cant be everywhere; the sheer numbers of droids and general effectiveness of CIS tactical droids as commanders would destroy everywhere else and eventually the CIS would control most galactic territory so end up as the winners
De echo si en el juego de star wars battlefront 2 del 2005 hay una misión así en donde los separatistas se enfrentan al imperio, incluso en un episodio de star wars rebels se podría decir que se enfrentan al imperio (así siendo su última batalla de los separatistas )
Better ships go to CIS but let's not forget that separatist in rots are in their weakest. Anh empire on the other hand is likely in their prime, although I think CIS would still win extreme diff due to fact geonosian leaders were still alive before mustafar massacare so they know literraly everything about death star, nice edit tho.
@@MOFFEdits also in prime CIS had Quintilions of Battle droids and millions of Munificents while Empire had only few billions of storm troopers and 25 thousands of empire star destroyers. But as I said before rots cis is in their one of the weakest states.
@@GeneralGrievous_CIScanon = 180 million whilst in legends it’s in the quintillion It’s also important to note 60% of the droid army was never used and they were meant to lose the clone wars so the empire could take over.
Cis should won the numbers. Aircraft wise, it would be tough to judge that. Cis had the tri fighter that would give the Empire hell, plus the tactics used by the Cis with its aircraft would be troublesome for the empire. So the Cis would be at 7 in my opinion. Plus the Cis ships would probably outnumber the empire navy in certain battles. Another thing, droids can be program to fight and see action same day, empire have to train troopers in a few months or more.
Being outnumbered wouldn’t matter, Imperial ships were more advanced and simply better than CIS ships, they were larger and had better guns, the CIS navy would go down without a fight.
Want to know something the empire had the Death Star built but in Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the clones there was a holoprojector of the Death Star when the clones attacked and if the separatists won they were gonna build the Death Star
Cis gets numbers and starfighters , there are several videos explaining how good vulture and tri_fighter droids were , and it was stated that by the end of the clone wars , there was more droids than any organic army !
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The CIS is known for being the largest army EVER in star wars lore. Also many of the factors seem to be on purpose on the Empire's favor. When it comes to things like logistics and cost effectiveness (Battle droids need neither food nor sleep) the CIS has no competition.
@@propiggaming921 The quintillions number has been dismissed mainly as Separatist propaganda, and it is not hard to understand why. Going by the B1s alone. One single B1 battle droid costs 1,800 credits. One E-5 blaster rifle (Droids main weapon) costs 600 credits. So we are giving the total cost of a Separatist droid soldier 2,400 credits. Now if you run the math, just one quintillion battle droids is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000. Multiply 2,400 times 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 and you get the total cost of 24,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 credits. I don't think I need to explain how those numbers are simply madness when the Death Star (Which was considered highly expensive) merely costed the Empire 1 trillion credits (1,000,000,000,000). Like at that point, you are suggesting a war time rebellion had a 24 billion times the budget of the entire galactic economy during the Reign of the Empire.
Military police, and they should be around special ops level, even tho in a lot of the shows and movies they are shown as standard military forces, I think andor and rogue one made them justice
@@luckygamermemberofvma7903 the TIE/D Defender Elite can take on and solo 30 X-Wing's without plot armor involved at all. The X-Wing doesnt have strong enough shields to survive one singular heavy laser bolt from the TIE/D Defender's cannon. And it has 6/8 of them. And the X-Wing's cannons arent strong enough to penetrate the heavy shields of the TIE/D Defender Elite. Not to mention the Defender Elite has missiles as well. Don't talk like that to me as if you know more about Star Wars spaceships/spacefighters than me because you clearly dont, you probably dont even know what a TIE/D Defender Elite is "The Empires TIE's suck ass🤓👆". Infact you probably don't even have the required knowledge to name every single TIE model in Canon within 10 seconds like me without searching it up, so dont talk as if you know more you clearly don't.
@@luckygamermemberofvma7903 you didnt disprove any of my points LOL, you just added a silly point related to production issues which has nothing to do with my original comment as im talking about the Defender's performance. I know well that it was limited due to the fuel refinery blowing up.
The CIS have nigh infinite numbers as troops can be massed produced It is true the Empire has large numbers too The Empire also have superior generals as well as Admirals
@@Tomszpl Depends on the source. Many have dismissed the quintillion number as purely CIS propaganda while lower numbers were dismissed as Republic propaganda. However basic economic calculations would showcase the quintillion number as pretty much impossible. My best guess based on sources and pure economic guess work is that the droid army would range anywhere from hundreds of millions to a few billion.
@@kingorange7739The bankers and the other CIS leaders were rich as hell, and don't forget about general grievous he's like a master mind. And they had trillions not quintillions.
trooper variety remains with the CIS, experience as well because it came along first, tactics? They had tactical droids, super tactical droids, grievous, trench, doctor and many more. Starfighters also still remains with the CIS as they had way more.
The empire had far superiour ships than the CIS in terms of both starfighters and quality of their navy altho the cis navy would still win due to numbers
BX super battle droids are fucking scarey imagine a B2 super battle droid now imagine that shit with a jetpack and with dual missle batterys on each shoulder ou cant tell me that aint scaery any empire soldier would shit their pants seeing that
The numbers are wrong, the CIS had Droid factories on a bunch of planets and each factory was able to produce millions of droids each per hour, mean while the Empire was (I'm pretty sure) a voluntary only type of service for there military
If I don't think it would be an incredible battle but the reality is that the CIS outnumbers the empire basically with trillions of droids xd Let's keep in mind that at the end of the war the droids outnumbered the Republic 100 to 1 even at the start of the war the CIS outnumbered the clone army 10 to 1
@@rtixboi4193 The droids only used 40% of their army. Also you are forgetting the organic soldiers such as the Umbarrans, the Quarren, and the Geonosians. Those were some absolutely MASSIVE armies along side the droids.
@@rtixboi4193 they had 10x that deployed and 100x that in storage and millions get produced an hour. And the empire definitely does not have 180 million soldiers
Palpatine made sure to destroy the droids for human sovereignty in the galaxy with several droids and a numerous enemy The Emperor would be challenged and his rule would not last as master yoda foresaw the creation of the alliance.
Not really in the case of the Empire. Just the Imperial fleet alone dictated the Empire had at least 252,200,000 troopers. And that’s not including things like planetary garrisons or space stations.
Guys stop commenting this is obviously wrong and he did it on purpose so you all correct him in the comments and the algorithm pushes him because of user interactions.
CIS had way more troops than the Empire it was the biggest army in Star wars history Palpatine and Dooku kept tons of droids in reserve as an emergency and because they could wipe out the GAR through numbers
The CIS had more numbers. By the end of the clone wars the droid army was numbered in the quintillions which was more than any population of sentient beings in the galaxy.
yeah most of the points here are cap.
the cis would have oneshotted the republic if it were not for palpatine.
@@StarWarsNegsVerses FGE pretty much solos CIS though
@@MiiaoTheFC ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
@@StarWarsNegsVerses huh?
@@MiiaoTheFC it would be tough.
"FOR THE SEPERATIST ALLIANCE" VS "FOR THE EMPIRE"
One sounds like a heroic last stand and the other a Meir battle cry
@@Pocoentertainmentstudioyeah your right "for the seperatist alliance!" Sounds like it's a final battle and "for the empire!" Sounds a battle cry at the start of the battle before charging at the enemy
Actually the term "Seperatist" is kind of a pejorative term...in my thoughts their battle cry would be "For independence"
FOR THE EMPIRE>>>>>>>>>>>
glory to the empire
Bro "FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE" hits hard💀
Lmao for leaders bro really said “though it’s a close one, I think Palpatine beats Palpatine in this one.”
I mean yeah. I mean he might have included vader?
@@brandyjohnson9673 well empire wins simply because palpatine was deliberately sabotaging the cis the whole time lol
@@aJamBiscuit i mean it doesn't really change the fact both of their leaders were the same person
@@aJamBiscuit That makes no sense timeline wise. Army wise the CIS droids were superior.
"10000 systems rely on us!!"
*LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!*
@@-Thrawn_Empire hurahh!
@@-Thrawn_Empire"long live the CIS!!!!!!!!"-b1 battle droid
For The Empire!
for the separatist alliance 🫡
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For the Separatist Alliance 🫡
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@@MOFFEditssidious:*spins toward windu*
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They were moraly corect so fuck it i am inn, i like the estetick of the empire and the republic beter but the CIS was moraly corect with leaving the republic just remove duku and i wuld consider it.
Edit: forgot to mention, for the sepratist aliance
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For the Empire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@@Lord_Imperion55 nuh uh
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Super weapons should go to CIS, because it was them, who created the plan for death star. Not to mention they have more plans to create superweapons, but couldn't follow through it, cause Palpatine held them back.
and CIS supertank, B3 battle droids, Blue Shadow virus, clone virus, Mega Ion cannon, Defoliator, Hydroid Medusa
@@tutu28clone Don't forget that old republic era artifact they dug out in legends, *Dark Reaperor Force Harvester* or whatever they call it.
Some statements say it was just as deadly as death star
@@anshunath3290 Yeah
Also malevolent could take down or deal devastating damage to a venator with 1 shot.
@@anshunath3290The empire axtually weilds weapons greater than the Death Star if you read the comics.
Notice how when a Star Wars faction is put up agains the imperium the only one most peole agree would have a fighting chance against that horrid theocracy is the empire
Lemme debunk this.
The separatists far outnumbered the empire (this is logic just by looking at the factories on geonosis and elsewhere)
The empire on average didn't have better military leaders. Most star destroyer captains were incompetent and were hated by their troops. The only good leaders I can think of off the top of my head from the empire are Veers, Thrawn, and Vader. There were others but due to antagonization from tarkin (partially) many of them either ended up dead or left the empire.
The empire didn't have better starfighters at all. The TIE fighter was extremely cheap and easy to destroy. The vulture droid was far faster and more capable than a TIE fighter. The only argument you could make about the empire having a superior starfighter would be the TIE defender which wasn't implimented nearly enough to make a valid point.
I dont know much about imperial generals so you may be right. Veers was a great general. But if you base it off the comics than grievous was a genuinely good general (up for debate on who's better though)
Thrawn was a large exception when it came to imperial admirals. If you're talking about who had the singular best admiral than fine but if it's in general than thrawn doesn't make a huge difference. Even in the clone wars series which was heavily biased against the separatists, they still had incredible admirals (trench for example)
Infantry is debatable based on what you define as infantry. For example is infantry just tue b1 battle droids or does it count for the b2 battle droid and all its varients? Because b2 battle droids are extremely strong and durable, not to mention the heavy assault varient that gives it a rocket launcher.
Special forces is just wrong. The separatists had droidekas that were basically invulnerable to blaster fire and you jeeded a rather technical method to destroy them (throwing a droid popper or thermal detonator is just the right way to get through its shield, sneak up behind it, or destroy it while it's rolling. Commando droids are fast and extremely tactical, likely moreso than most special forces in the empire. Magnaguards are self explanitory.
Ok now for the leader, its a bit odd to cover since palpatine played both the republic and separatists during the clone wars, but we're going to say that dooku lead the separatists since he mostly did. Dooku was overall a better leader than palpatine. Palpatine created a system in the empire that wasn't based on merit, but instead on loyalty. Dooku overall was very kind to most of his associates whether it be military commanders, parliament, or the separatist council, and he overall promoted freedom to all the worlds in separatist space.
I was gonna argue the part about the enforcers but ehhhhh, that one is honestly right.
The superweapon arguement is tricky. The geonocians designed the death star, and they were separatists, but the empire built and controlled it, so it's somewhat debatable.
In the end the empire versus separatists is a debateable topic that can't really be solved just off of basic factors like who has more numbers or who has the biggest super weapon. I hope this has enlightened some that there isn't any certain way to tell who would win due to there being so many factors. Thank you all for reading (i know you skipped some), goodbye.
"FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE!"
The Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) had a unique advantage in battle due to their use of droid armies. These droids were programmed to follow orders without question, making them ideal for executing complex tactics quickly and efficiently. On the other hand, the Galactic Empire relied heavily on human soldiers, who were less maneuverable and could be swayed by emotions like fear and doubt.
In addition, the CIS utilized a variety of different droids for different purposes, ranging from small, agile battle droids to massive, heavily armed droidekas. This allowed them to adapt to different battle situations and overcome tactics used by their opponents. The Rebel Alliance, which also relied heavily on guerrilla tactics, would have found it difficult to predict the CIS's tactics and react accordingly.
Furthermore, the CIS's ships were designed for more tactical maneuvering, rather than brute strength. The Providence-class cruisers, for example, were particularly effective at flanking maneuvers and surprise attacks. The Imperial navy, on the other hand, relied on larger, more heavily armed vessels, which meant they were less capable of quick, tactical maneuvers.
One example of the CIS's effectiveness in battle is the Battle of Ryloth, which was detailed in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. In this battle, a small CIS fleet successfully outmaneuvered a much larger Republic fleet by using unpredictable tactics and overwhelming firepower.
Overall, the CIS's use of droids and tactical flexibility gave them an advantage over both the Republic and the Rebel Alliance. While the Galactic Empire had access to larger, more powerful warships, they lacked the CIS's ability to quickly adapt to changing circumstances on the battlefield.
So in my opinion the C.I.S would have a a closer fight.
U used ai for sure
Good point
@@WhatWhoDis I don't know why I even did this lol ☠️ thanks
Chatgpt is strong in this one😂
@@thegingerbreadgod1312if it was AI it wouldn't even know what a droid is in Star wars. But, the 2008 clone wars nerfed the B1 battle droids they made them sentinal.
Absolute cap, by the end of the clone wars, droid numbers were estimated in the quintillions, which is more than the empire had in civilian (CIVILIAN) members.
Same for any navy, ground or whatever vehicles, the CIS just had numbers you couldn't defeat.
And with no exaggerating, if the CIS didn't have sith leadership with a bigger plan, it would literally have been the greatest, most morally correct and most independent army in the entire history of the star wars galaxy.
Palpatine actually had to step in several times because the cis would've just crushed the republic with their new troops, numbers or tactics, which is the only reason why in everyone's eyes "they lost".
Otherwise they wouldn't have had any problem, and neither would they have had with the empire.
Exactly
Makes you wonder why Palpatine just didn't make sure the CIS would win so they could hunt down and destroy the jedi, then reveal himself to be the mastermind behind it all after the jedi were dead
@@stevenwright1829 he had control over the clones as well. And he didn’t want to be seen as the leader of the CIS because it would give him a bad political image and people would not vote for him
i think this man forgot humans were better then droids so numbers doesn't mean everything and the empire has the inquisitors special forces and way better tech and more armored viechels ect
@@Lord_Imperion55 no they weren't, droids could've had literal aimbot if sidious didn't interfere
Numbers goes to CIS
Not sure, if we combine all stormtroopers and soldiers of the Imperial army the numbers will stay in the Empire. Long Live The Empire!
@@Challanger463 the galactic empire had thousands of stormtroopers, the CIS had billions of droids, what are you talking about?
@@TueyAmos "Star Wars: Uprising states that the Empire had 25,000 Imperial Star Destroyer with 45,000 Stormtroopers aboard the vessel. Now if we do simple math, that would come out to 1.1 billion. The Galactic Empire never revealed the true number of Stormtroopers. As far as we know, there were billions."
So either you dont know how to speak english and you dont know what "thousands" means or you just delusional mate, how the most powerful and biggest Superpower in the whole galaxy can use only "thousands" of stormtroopers
I never thought adding Star Wars Battlefront 2 Quotes would make this such an orgasmic asmr.
agreed. although the sheer amount of Droid starfighters might pose some difficulty in space superiority, the Empire is just built to outgun anything they come across
Absolutely 💯%. The Galactic Empire is very powerful but droid fighters are extremely dangerous. The empire still has superior firepower.
tri-fighters would demolish anything that isn't a TIE-defender, that's how dangerous they are
If CIS weren't being manipulated by Darth sidious the CIS will have much more deadly potential to create more deadly droids to beat the republic
The thing is that TIE fighter tactics are the exact same toward the CIS starships, swarm tactics with low firepower. Tie fighters in terms of weapons are near identical to vulture droids, except one has smarter brains and larger amounts of ships, I wonder who’s gonna win? The copy cat or the one who did it better
Not to mention that while cis starfighters had missiles the empire was only equipped with a single set of blasters on the tie fighter.
Numbers to the empire -_- the entire Droid army was about 10x bigger then the entire galaxy
180 million is not bigger than the entire galaxy
@@rtixboi4193They had 3 quintillion at the end i think
@@brandyjohnson9673 Also remember that the droid army only used 40% of its forces. You are correct.
@@rtixboi4193It was in the quintillions
It was not in the quintillions that’s propaganda
Military leaders, generals and admirals is all debatable, especially if we are talking overall and not just who has the single best person.
Kalani
Grievous: 🗿one of my olds soldiers, trained by me, literraly fight with kalee aganisth empire 10 years
@@Lag_EO Wut?
Yah, this. Empire has a few gems... Thrawn, Veers, etc. but many of their officers are notoriously stupid, promoted on a political basis rather than on merit and despised by their troops. Meanwhile, the CIS builds supercomputer tactical droids 🤣
@@GeneralGrievousCIS Yes!
This editing style is fire
Bro dropped the hardest Star Wars 1v1 edit and thought we wouldn't notice 🥶
I think ppl really underestimate the tactical genius of General Grievous, he wouldn’t be in charge otherwise
They use clone wars grievous who was always shown as being incompetent
@@lordcardinalsikr, you should see the 2003 clone war series, he was a true commander.
For the separate alliance🦾🤖🫡
For the separatist alliance!🦾
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Yeah but droids would be easier to replace
I have found Ob2kenobi's enemy...
@@Lady_Shrek_of_the_Swamp Hello there
@@GeneralGrievous_CIS General Kenobi! You are a bold one. No, but seriously, I'm not talking about Obi Wan, I'm talking about Ob2...
@@Lady_Shrek_of_the_Swamp What the hell is Ob2 did he recieve an upgrade or smth?
Kenobi 2.0
The empire holds a special place in my heart but the droids are so iconic and memorable and I love them both equally. Also the droids had MUCH more numbers than the empire
Not quite
@@kingorange7739 what do you mean not quite
@@jeffproplay The Empire technically has the entire galactic population to pull from in order to fuel their war. In spite of how large the droid army is, even they can't scale to that.
@@kingorange7739 the droid army had quintillions, they outnumbered every organic army to date. Not only that, you have to subtract every planet owned by the Hutt Cartels and the rebellion, considering the rebellion started up right after galactic takeover. As well as the independent systems and other crime organizations.
@@jeffproplay The quintillion number has been disputed as CIS propaganda and when you account for the droid cost, it is not hard to grasp why. If you would like to hear the numbers, I will gladly read them here.
Bro such a good edit just love it
Bro "FOR THE SEPERATIST ALLIANCE" hit a bit hard but the empire "WE ARE UNDER ATTACK THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!" Hits hard for me and the "FOR THE EMPIRE"
Then Thousand Systems Rely on us!
I just enjoyed the music
Alternate title: I don’t know anything about Star Wars
Fr bro
I mean its like 60-40 odds for me
he is right tho sooooo
The CIS lost to the Galactic Republic, the Galactic Empire has better equipment and much larger weapons than the Republic had. The empire just has worse infantry than the Republic since it has enlisted men isn't of clones that were raised to be soldiers.
@@lonewolf0712you know CiS was supposed to lose and it didnt even use half of its power, and yet it still managed to blitzkrieg republic
Both factions go hard af
I love the battlefront II (2005) lines in the background
It would bé incrédible if the separatist Reborn during the empire era. They would be a very powerful ennemy for the empire. It's so complicated to say who's gonna win. Personally, the fact that the CIS can produce more and more soldier is a heavy advantage compare to the empire. Long life to the CIS
The CIS could be revived provided that technically and politically they were at the level of the end of the clone wars, because in non-canon there was a separatist uprising and of course it was suppressed, but it was not as large-scale as during the clone wars. Even if we take the beginning of the clone wars with all its living creatures: Dooku, Grievous, the Separatist Council, the dark successors of Dooku, Durge, Ventress, who is still on the side of the CIS, then their chances of victory would be enormous, and without all the former separatist leaders, then there will definitely be no victory
Long life the empire
Great edit!new subscriber!
Thanks 💯
Long live the galactic empire.
Long live the empire!!
LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY OF INDEPENDENCE!
FOR THE EMPIRE!
LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY OF INDIPENDENT SYSTEMS!
Long Live The Empire!
I would give the super weapon point to the CIS considering they built the malevolence, and also designed the original plan for the Death Star before imperial architects added more stuff onto it and made it redundant because of stardust
I love it its my fav Edit
I have just recently watched this video and I don't agree with this and I do have some proof.
1. Number, CIS Wins: Now I did some research and the only thing I could find was the Empire had almost around 300 million troops plus pilots and officers that could probably make a billion But The Cis had almost a trillion troops with different variants. Plus it had some living beings so that can also be around a couple million. We also have to factor that there were just so many different types of vehicles in CIS then the Empire.
2. Trooper Variety, CIS Wins: Now this one you are correct the CIS had so many different variants of Droids that pretty much every Droid was made for every single situation. The Empire did have a variance of different troops but not by much.
3. Battle Exp, CIS Wins: you're also correct on this one and CIS had way more experience than the Empire.
4. Navy, CIS Wins: once again you're also correct on this one the CIS had way more different types of ships for every situation. Yes the Empire had better ships and some areas but CIS had so many different variants of different ships that they swarm the empire.
5. Better Warship, Empire Wins: now once again this is going to be a hard one because the Empire does have better ships but there are more vulnerable but the CIS does have one ship that could pretty much destroy any imperial ship and that is a Malevolence. The Malevolence can just shoot a EMP blast at any ship and all the power will cut off. Making any imperial ship defenseless and the CIS can just wipe them out easily. The only problem was was that there were only like a couple Malevolence ever made so the Empire will have a better chance.
6. Military Leaders, TIE: Now to be honest the CIS in my opinion has the better leadership in the military and most of the time in the Empire. The leadership are just bad. The only reason why this is tie because the empire's best leader is admiral thrawn. And he is like the only imperial Commander that can actually get the job done but other than that the CIS would probably have a better chance. So give this a Tie.
7. Starfighters, CIS Wins: To be honest CIS wins in a landslide. The CIS in my opinion has the best starfighters and the Vulture Droid vs Tie Fighter. This is an easy win for the Vulture Droid. Yes there was one TIE fighter variant that was pretty much unstoppable but the Droid fighters just had so much that they would just swarm the Empire.
8. Better Tactics, CIS Wins: To be honest the CIS had way better tactics than the Empire and I don't think I have to say more.
9. Better Generals, TIE: The only reason why this is a tie is because the Empire had Admiral Thrawn but other than that the CIS had way better generals than anybody In The Empire. The Empire just had just too much ego and CIS we're more defensive with their tactics. So I would generally say the CIS would have won for the generals.
10. Better Admiral, Empire Wins: Once again Admiral Thrawn is just too good but I do think Admiral Trench would be a challenge for Admiral Thrawn.
11. Infantry, CIS Wins: Now I'm going to be honest I'm not saying you have done your research but the CIS just had way better infantry and they had different variants. Also most of the empire's infantry were just bad. Yes or some infantry that was pretty good but other than that the CIS are just better with their infantry.
12. Special Forces, CIS Wins: Now I do know that the Empire has probably better Special Forces but the CIS has different droids for their special forces that they can do different tasks. So I do believe the CIS would have won in the special Forces Calgary.
13. More Force Users, Empire Wins: This is correct empire does have more Force Users.
14. Leader, Tie: The only reason why this is a tie is because The Empire and The CIS are both control by palpatine so this is why it's tie.
15. Enforcers, Empire Wins: Yeah Darth Vader is a great Enforcer but I do think General Grievous can hold on his own if he plays smart.
16. Super Weapons, Tie: Now I know what you're thinking the Death Star should probably easily destroy any CIS ship but I think that's not true. Now once again the CIS does have the Malevolence and If the Malevolence shoots it's EMP blast it will just turn off all power making the Death Star vulnerable to any attacks. This is why this is a Tie. Also I forgot to mention that the CIS made the Death Stars plans. So this means the CIS will know the Death Stars weakness
So the score should be
CIS 12 and The Empire 8: Winner Confederacy of independent systems: MID-HIGH DIFF.
The CIS had well over a trillion in canon :D also the Malevolence is called a Subjugator-Class! Not only this about the point with the death star the CIS designed it! So therefore they would know every weakness, however the Subjugator Class does have limits, the ion beam puts massive strain on the power and depending on how large the vessel is the Malevolence beams would only affect it for a certain amount of time.
This would probably have been the closest fight if it had actually happened, the empire has the advantage in firepower and battleships, but the separatists have larger numbers especially in the commando droids and tri fighters. Also i have no doubt the inquisitors would get destroyed by grievous and ventress, but vader would clean house. I’m gonna say empire, but very very close
Thing is vader and inquisitors cant be everywhere; the sheer numbers of droids and general effectiveness of CIS tactical droids as commanders would destroy everywhere else and eventually the CIS would control most galactic territory so end up as the winners
De echo si en el juego de star wars battlefront 2 del 2005 hay una misión así en donde los separatistas se enfrentan al imperio, incluso en un episodio de star wars rebels se podría decir que se enfrentan al imperio (así siendo su última batalla de los separatistas )
For the separation alliance
The Government Broke before our Army's Did (this goes for both)
Better ships go to CIS but let's not forget that separatist in rots are in their weakest. Anh empire on the other hand is likely in their prime, although I think CIS would still win extreme diff due to fact geonosian leaders were still alive before mustafar massacare so they know literraly everything about death star, nice edit tho.
I didn't even think about the Geonosians already knowing the Death Star schematics. 🤣
@@MOFFEdits also in prime CIS had Quintilions of Battle droids and millions of Munificents while Empire had only few billions of storm troopers and 25 thousands of empire star destroyers. But as I said before rots cis is in their one of the weakest states.
@PiP S. Ehhh quintillion a bit much but that's legend for you
I rather say they had trillions upon trillions of droids
@@pips.5701In canon, by RoTS, they had around 100 million
@@rtixboi4193 eh no
Really nice edit
Amazing edit, great work, FOR THE EMPIRE
I dont think theres a Canon number of how many droids CIS had
by the end of the clone wars there were quintillions of battle droids
@@pancake2592 is it canon?
@@GeneralGrievous_CIScanon = 180 million whilst in legends it’s in the quintillion
It’s also important to note 60% of the droid army was never used and they were meant to lose the clone wars so the empire could take over.
@@ForestakeI’m pretty sure in legends, the quintillions were separatist propaganda
@@rtixboi4193 Where is the information source
Song?
A fine addition to my collection
Soviet uninon vs Nazi but reverse
the cis are the Soviots?
@@Lord_Imperion55 Yes because they were outnumbred
@@munirarshad3698CiS outnumbered?
FOR THE GALACTIC EMPIRE LETS GOO
Cis should won the numbers. Aircraft wise, it would be tough to judge that. Cis had the tri fighter that would give the Empire hell, plus the tactics used by the Cis with its aircraft would be troublesome for the empire. So the Cis would be at 7 in my opinion. Plus the Cis ships would probably outnumber the empire navy in certain battles. Another thing, droids can be program to fight and see action same day, empire have to train troopers in a few months or more.
^separatist propaganda^
Being outnumbered wouldn’t matter, Imperial ships were more advanced and simply better than CIS ships, they were larger and had better guns, the CIS navy would go down without a fight.
@@rtixboi4193 Nope, tri fighters vs ties? Very obvious winner
Want to know something the empire had the Death Star built but in Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the clones there was a holoprojector of the Death Star when the clones attacked and if the separatists won they were gonna build the Death Star
Cis gets numbers and starfighters , there are several videos explaining how good vulture and tri_fighter droids were , and it was stated that by the end of the clone wars , there was more droids than any organic army !
They were good, but less advanced that Imperial ships. By GCW standards, they would be very outdated.
No faction realistically beats the Empire. Stormtroopers in original lore had insane accuracy
Doesnt matter as they are outnumbered
@@Tomszpl it does when the Empire is 10x the power of it.
@@TheRe-Fill no its not possible to keep with droids production while droid is made in few second, stormtrooper must be trained and feed
So true. Long Live The Empire!
You earned a sub . Lol palpatine was like . HEY WHY DA HECK U UPLOADING ME ON UA-cam LET UR CAMERA BE DESTROYED
Aliança separatista 🆚 aliança rebelde
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Roger:wait I thought you were roger
Roger:I thought I was roger
Darth roger:I am the real original roger:no I'm the original roger
Roger:but I thought he was roger
Roger no I think it was him
Roger:no I'm roger I'm pretty sure that is roger
Roger:no I think it was roger I'm not Roger: My name is Roger I think that one is roger
The CIS is known for being the largest army EVER in star wars lore.
Also many of the factors seem to be on purpose on the Empire's favor. When it comes to things like logistics and cost effectiveness (Battle droids need neither food nor sleep) the CIS has no competition.
Depending on sources, it is true though that the battle droids were the most cost efficient.
Creo que lo mencionaron, la república no podia usar a los droides porque este infundian temor porque eran sus antiguos enemigos.
CIS is underrated. There is no way they lose
They are underrated but they do lose this one I’m afraid
@@kingorange7739but the separatist have quintillions of droids against millions of troopers for the Empire doesn’t seem like the empire will win
@@propiggaming921 The quintillions number has been dismissed mainly as Separatist propaganda, and it is not hard to understand why. Going by the B1s alone. One single B1 battle droid costs 1,800 credits. One E-5 blaster rifle (Droids main weapon) costs 600 credits. So we are giving the total cost of a Separatist droid soldier 2,400 credits. Now if you run the math, just one quintillion battle droids is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000. Multiply 2,400 times 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 and you get the total cost of 24,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 credits. I don't think I need to explain how those numbers are simply madness when the Death Star (Which was considered highly expensive) merely costed the Empire 1 trillion credits (1,000,000,000,000). Like at that point, you are suggesting a war time rebellion had a 24 billion times the budget of the entire galactic economy during the Reign of the Empire.
@@kingorange7739 bro went full lore on me. But good argument I agree with you
@@propiggaming921 Thanks, I appreciate it.
Fun fact : Stormtroopers weren't actually soldiers they were more of police officers.
Military police, and they should be around special ops level, even tho in a lot of the shows and movies they are shown as standard military forces, I think andor and rogue one made them justice
“Surrender Jedi”
LOL no, starfighters go to the Empire, a Droid Starfighter stands no match against a TIE/D Defender Elite.
Wrong the empires ties suck ass
@@luckygamermemberofvma7903 the TIE/D Defender Elite can take on and solo 30 X-Wing's without plot armor involved at all. The X-Wing doesnt have strong enough shields to survive one singular heavy laser bolt from the TIE/D Defender's cannon. And it has 6/8 of them. And the X-Wing's cannons arent strong enough to penetrate the heavy shields of the TIE/D Defender Elite. Not to mention the Defender Elite has missiles as well.
Don't talk like that to me as if you know more about Star Wars spaceships/spacefighters than me because you clearly dont, you probably dont even know what a TIE/D Defender Elite is "The Empires TIE's suck ass🤓👆". Infact you probably don't even have the required knowledge to name every single TIE model in Canon within 10 seconds like me without searching it up, so dont talk as if you know more you clearly don't.
@@OfficialDoggyYT yes I do and very few were made and the cis could over well the Tie defender elite and without those empire is useless in that area
@@OfficialDoggyYT plus a attack class Lucrehulk would destroy them
@@luckygamermemberofvma7903 you didnt disprove any of my points LOL, you just added a silly point related to production issues which has nothing to do with my original comment as im talking about the Defender's performance. I know well that it was limited due to the fuel refinery blowing up.
The CIS have nigh infinite numbers as troops can be massed produced
It is true the Empire has large numbers too
The Empire also have superior generals as well as Admirals
You are not really accounting for economic cost. And the CIS can’t compete with the Empire’s industry.
@@kingorange7739do they have quintilons of Units?
@@Tomszpl Depends on the source. Many have dismissed the quintillion number as purely CIS propaganda while lower numbers were dismissed as Republic propaganda. However basic economic calculations would showcase the quintillion number as pretty much impossible. My best guess based on sources and pure economic guess work is that the droid army would range anywhere from hundreds of millions to a few billion.
@@kingorange7739The bankers and the other CIS leaders were rich as hell, and don't forget about general grievous he's like a master mind. And they had trillions not quintillions.
@@Chaos_insurancy yes they were rich, however they were not going to have as much as the Empire.
Long live the empire
The CIS should have scored way higher their leader were far superior
Ysanne Isard, Thrawn, and Tarkin would demolish the vast majority of the CIS by themselves.
@@MOFFEditsbro brought tarkin into this 🥶🥶
@@MOFFEditstarkin kinda suck
@@MOFFEdits tarkin is a buffoon with no actual expertise
@@MOFFEdits Thrawn is the only threat
Is it just me? Or did i just hear "For the san francisco alliance" instead of "For the seperatist alliance"?
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Bro what?
Experience, tactics, starfighters, trooper variety, etc all goes to Empire, but numbers goes to CIS
trooper variety remains with the CIS, experience as well because it came along first, tactics? They had tactical droids, super tactical droids, grievous, trench, doctor and many more. Starfighters also still remains with the CIS as they had way more.
The empire had far superiour ships than the CIS in terms of both starfighters and quality of their navy altho the cis navy would still win due to numbers
For the Empire 🫡
What's the song remix? I know it's somebody I used to know, but who's the artist/remixer?
Id love to see a full might empire vs an unhindered CIS
Grievouses orginization and intelligense and stategies and tactics is one of the main reasons of hope for the cis
If the seperatist weren’t limited and can use everything they had they could give the empire a run for it’s money
BX super battle droids are fucking scarey imagine a B2 super battle droid now imagine that shit with a jetpack and with dual missle batterys on each shoulder ou cant tell me that aint scaery any empire soldier would shit their pants seeing that
The CIS had billions upon billions of droids I thought in reserve.
Legit fire
The power of the fleet is behind the Empire - because it has built tens of thousands of Star Destroyers
“For the Separatist Alliance” 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Long live the galactic empire
The numbers are wrong, the CIS had Droid factories on a bunch of planets and each factory was able to produce millions of droids each per hour, mean while the Empire was (I'm pretty sure) a voluntary only type of service for there military
So how come after three years of fighting, they only had a hundred million droids?
@@rtixboi4193 that was the plan, the geonosians could have built many more factories
@@rtixboi4193No, they had trillions.
GLORY TO THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!
Long Live The Empire!
If I don't think it would be an incredible battle but the reality is that the CIS outnumbers the empire basically with trillions of droids xd
Let's keep in mind that at the end of the war the droids outnumbered the Republic 100 to 1 even at the start of the war the CIS outnumbered the clone army 10 to 1
They have 180 million droids.
@@rtixboi4193 The droids only used 40% of their army. Also you are forgetting the organic soldiers such as the Umbarrans, the Quarren, and the Geonosians. Those were some absolutely MASSIVE armies along side the droids.
@@rtixboi4193 they had 10x that deployed and 100x that in storage and millions get produced an hour. And the empire definitely does not have 180 million soldiers
Clankers vs Bucket Heads
Technically you should have given a point to each since palpatine was in charge of both
The Separatists would just send a few trillion droids at them and call it a day
How many times have you watched this edit
Yes
For the First. Galactic. Empire!
Where is the Clip from with the At at
Probably from Battlefront from 2015
Imperial forces 25000 star destroyers
Sepratist forces 25000 munificent class ships
Per hour🔥
FOR THE SEPRATIST ALLIANCE✊
For the specialisation you are SO WRONG it's comical the empire had so many different kind of troops.
Palpatine made sure to destroy the droids for human sovereignty in the galaxy with several droids and a numerous enemy The Emperor would be challenged and his rule would not last as master yoda foresaw the creation of the alliance.
Separatists had far far more numbers then both the galactic empire and the Galactic Republic
Not really in the case of the Empire. Just the Imperial fleet alone dictated the Empire had at least 252,200,000 troopers. And that’s not including things like planetary garrisons or space stations.
@@kingorange7739 you got a fair point
Guys stop commenting this is obviously wrong and he did it on purpose so you all correct him in the comments and the algorithm pushes him because of user interactions.
True but when the rebelion coud defeat the empire the seperates coud have 100 percent too
Imperial navy solos
Последнее к КНС Звезда смерти это проэкт их и разрабатывали изночально тоже они.
CIS had way more troops than the Empire it was the biggest army in Star wars history Palpatine and Dooku kept tons of droids in reserve as an emergency and because they could wipe out the GAR through numbers
Not quite, yes the CIS did have the largest manufacturered army but the Empire has the entire galaxy’s population to pull from.
@@kingorange7739 yeah but that's more recruiting they didn't actually have whole planetary populations recruited into the military
@@zacharyweaver276 don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they automatically did. I’m merely saying they could.
Did you know at the end of the clone wars, There is a glitch 3 billion battle droids🤓
Gave numbers to the empire and navy to the CIS. Ok?
i wouldnt give battle experiances to the cis since they were programmed so i would give it to the empie since they can be experiances
you give "Numbers" to Empire? ok....