Should You Study At BIMM? (REVIEW)
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Hey! I finished studying a degree in Music Production at BIMM London this year and wanted to share my opinion about whether you should study at BIMM or not. I go over all of my modules, talk about the university itself and what its like to study in London.
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Amazing video man, gave a great insight into the degree and what its like to study in London. Very well structured and a true unbiased opinion on what you thought. Thank you :)
Thanks, I'm glad it helped you out! What course are you looking to study?
I studied at bimm back in 2007 when they was more proactive. The way the system works is if you meet the niche for what’s relevant at the time you’ll get the work if you have the attitude.
For me I got nothing but I’ve got friends that made mad connections from bimm.
Go in with the attitude of being the best (in a humble way) learn. Take criticism and grow.
Bimm is a place that puts things in to perspective as most of the time people are better than you in sense.
Yeah meeting people who were better than me helped me understand where I was at the time and where I wanted to be growing in the future. What course did you study?
@@Harknee I was at bimm Brighton. I did my professional and BA in guitar.
It would be interesting to try again
I finished the first year at at BIMM (Music Production) in Berlin, and all i have to say is that if you want to be an artist, you are better off NOT going to this school. But if you want to work in the creative industries and not go your own way, BIMM is a great choice for you.
If BIMM Berlin has a similarly structured course to BIMM London, then there are some modules that are very beneficial for artists in the 2nd and 3rd years. But I agree with your second point, the course introduces you to lots of new things, like Max MSP, working with hardware or creating music and sound for TV/Movies.
hey man, would you recommend BIMM Berlin for studying music business ?
Great video! Really helpful to me - prospective student for BIMM Brighton :)
Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful, which course were you looking to study?
@@Harknee Songwriting and Business :)
Great video man - not sure if you’ll still be seeing these comments, but I have an interview coming up at the end of the month for Songwriting & Music Production at BIMM Brighton and I’m facing this huge anxiety of impostor syndrome and feeling like I’m not gonna be as good as what they’re expecting. Do you have any tips on the interview process for this subject? As in, how to reduce that anxiety and nerves, what kind of things to look out for and improve in my portfolio submissions and how I should prepare for the audition? Would love to hear back from you!
Thanks! And yes I am!
It’s not the end of the world if they don’t think you’re good enough (I’m sure you won’t be though). But that’s the point of the interview, to see if you are good enough, if you are, then great , you’re on course! If not, then it hasn’t cost you anything and it’ll be a great learning experience and it should motivate you to improve your songwriting and/or instrument playing and you could apply again a year or two later where I’m sure you’ll be of a good enough standard.
Unfortunately my interview process was different to yours, I simply had a discussion about a couple of my tracks, there was no audition. But for the portfolio and any discussion you have about your tracks, just make sure you can explain all the details of the song writing and sound like there was some thought behind the process, if there was, then really lean into that.
As for your nerves, honestly, getting into BIMM isn’t that difficult. With brexit and covid, I suspect there will be less international students applying, meaning there should be more of a chance to get a place. Also, not everyone there is Jimmy Hendrix or Adele, most of them are just starting out and aren’t supremely talented, but that’s the point of BIMM, to improve your music and become an all round better artist. You got this👊🏻
Really appreciate this, thank you!
No problem! Which BIMM are you looking to study at?
@@Harknee The one in London :)
Do you know anyone who had taken a diploma instead of attending a complete degree in music production? If yes, what was their compressed experience like and would they recommend a diploma over a degree?
I may have bumped into a couple of diploma students but I never got the chance to talk to them about the differences. Obviously with diploma, you're not going to studying as many modules compared to a degree but I don't think that will take anything away from the experience. Just getting to be in the building at BIMM and being around like minded producers is the biggest thing.
One thing I will say is, put the effort in, you'll get more out of it if you put more in, spend all day in the mac suites working on music, talking to the people around you and going to the gigs they put on, I didn't do enough of this and I wish I had. You could do this for 1 year or 3 years, its up to you really.
Thanks for this. I've been producing music since 2001 and have done several short courses through the years and actually have my own main recording studio in Brighton and a serious home studio. But I always wanted a degree to back up what I've learned. Possibly because I am 40 and having a midlife crisis and want to go back to school!
But I just don't think it would push me enough into the advanced levels of production that I'm striving for.
Also, pushing Pro Tools is really offputting!
I absolutely hate it and couldn't care less if it's industry standard. I can use it, because I've been forced to in studios I've worked in, but it's truly dreadful.
I've been using Cubase since version 3.. it's my DAW of choice. And the amount of time spent on dry subjects seems like a waste of time. Especially as it's all changing so quickly. People are releasing their own music onto Spotify with platforms like Distrokid for example.
I wish they'd just give me some exams and I could get the degree that way 😂
It's great to hear you're looking to get into education! As you've got a lot of experience, you might want to look into a Masters degree instead. That's what I'm doing at the moment and the step up from a Bachelors degree is pretty sizeable and could push you, like you wanted.
There seems to be a lot more freedom, at least on my masters degree, to work how you want, on whatever you want, the learning outcomes for the assessments are a lot more open and allow the students to make the assessments fit their preferences, rather than the other way around.
I know you said you were living in the Brighton so I'm not sure what's available down there but here at my uni, we offer a specialised Record Production course that might be what you're looking for. As you seem to have working experience already, universities would consider you, even without a Bachelors degree.
www.uwl.ac.uk/course/postgraduate/record-production?start=646&option=33
Thanks for this 👍
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You're welcome, glad I could help!
Thanks for this, was really helpful!
You're welcome! Which course were you looking to study?
@@Harknee Just been accepted onto the music production and contemporary performance joint honours! I've heard lots of people talking about the performance stuff but your video is the first I've found talking about the production side
@@ellielouise7005 well hopefully you’ll be able to have your lectures in person next year, having the lecturers in the room and able to look at your DAW projects is so valuable! What sort of music do you make?
@@Harknee My stuff is somewhere within rock/pop/indie, was there anyone who made that kind of music in your lectures? I’d assume music production would attract people in more electronic genres so I’ll probably be outnumbered haha
If anything I was outnumbered being an electronic music producer! It certainly felt like more people came from a rock/indie background, they knew more about being in a recording studio with microphones and mixing desks I seem to remember. But I think that is slowly changing as more people like me have appeared at BIMM and they're starting to cater for electronic music production a bit more, as well as your traditional music producer stuff (running a music studio, mic placement, live sound engineering). There's also been some rap/hip hop producers on the production courses recently as well, I think you'll find the course to be very diverse with lots of people with lots of different musical backgrounds!
I don’t know if your still responding to comments but if you are I was just wondering, how much knowledge of music production do you actually need before studying electronic music production?
Hey! If you have a basic understanding of a DAW, e.g. you know what the mixer does and the difference between MIDI and audio tracks, and the different parts of a synthesiser, like the oscillator, filter and envelope, then you should be fine.
Just looking at the modules now, theres a lot of stuff there thats quite specific but they're the kind of thing that the tutors aren't expecting anyone to know much, if anything about, so they'll start from the beginning and give everyone a chance to get up to speed. `
Hope this helps!
@@Harknee Oh right thanks.
hi harknee! i am applying for BIMM Bristol Music Production as an international student. I just want to know if this school has the type of environment where everyone is eager to learn and expand their knowledge in the arts/music. thank you!
Hey, thanks for your comment. From my time at BIMM London, I definitely felt like everyone was keen to learn and grow, it made for a really nice atmosphere on campus as everyone had the same goals!
yo man I've been learnig producing and beatmaking for almost 4 years by myself I'm 19, and I'm trying to find best school to find connections, networks, I'm already have enough information about music production (Mostly HipHop-Rap) Is BIMM good school for me? or am I need to go another school?
No school is better or worse for networking or finding connections, you don't necessarily need a school to do this, places like BIMM are more focused on teaching. If you just want to do networking then save your money and spend your time going to gigs and connecting with other artists there. You can go to a school like BIMM but they aren't going to do the networking for you, you have to do that all yourself, it will be the same at other schools too.
@@Harknee I'll see I'm moving to Berlin in January, I agree with you I can do it without school and the school might be waste of money for me. Thanks for your help.
I am thinking about this school, Im 19 years old i wanna become an artst of pop, rnb, electronic music, mix of the mainstream and avant garde, underground. I kinda soemetimes fear that im too old to become an artist?, but I really wanna start somewhere, I did "bedroom produce" my own music that i wrote since I was sixtenn 16, i think its really, I also wanna perform the music, I live in the czech republic, getting to the UK seems like a great step, or do u think LA or NYC could be better places for this? And maybe even cheaper. Since Im already 19 and I wanna become an artist is this school a waste of time or no? Any reccomedations?
You’re only 19 and you feel too old?? Surely you don’t mean that?
I’m biased and I’ll say London is better because I’m English and I live hear and I’ve never been to the US so don’t know about them. The other thing to consider is leaving your country, my partner is from France and she was considering moving to London or LA for work and one of the massive advantages of London is that she’s much much closer to France and her family. This may or may not apply to you but it’s worth considering as it’s probably not something you’ve thought about. Also, NYC or LA won’t be any cheaper than London, they’re all massive international cities and some of the most expensive places to live on earth.
This school isn’t a waste of time, it’s really good, despite some of the things I said in the video. Also, saying “I’m already 19” as if 19 is really old, you’re barely an adult!
You’re only 19 and you feel too old?? Surely you don’t mean that?
I’m biased and I’ll say London is better because I’m English and I live hear and I’ve never been to the US so don’t know about them. The other thing to consider is leaving your country, my partner is from France and she was considering moving to London or LA for work and one of the massive advantages of London is that she’s much much closer to France and her family. This may or may not apply to you but it’s worth considering as it’s probably not something you’ve thought about. Also, NYC or LA won’t be any cheaper than London, they’re all massive international cities and some of the most expensive places to live on earth.
This school isn’t a waste of time, it’s really good, despite some of the things I said in the video. Also, saying “I’m already 19” as if 19 is really old, you’re barely an adult!
@@Harknee haha, i meant that usually people start a career in music very early, so it can be quite scary, you think its the right time to start? Thank you a lot for the message!!
@@erikstursa 19 is perfectly fine to start, any age is fine in fact, just as long as you start.
Thanks for sharing your insights of your time of BIMM. I'm a drummer and I'm consideringh going there, but i'm unsure what courses to explore and whether it is the right fit for me. I am in my early 40's and am unsure how mature students fit in at BIMM. Do you have any thoughts on this?
In regards to your first point, it depends what you want to get out of it, if you're an experienced drummer who's performed a lot then a place like BIMM may not be for you, but if you're relatively new then one of the performance courses maybe a good fit. Since I've left, they also offer courses that cover multiple disciplines, so if you wanted to keep up your drumming but learn a bit of production or event management as well, then they offer courses for those options too.
Admittedly, on the BA courses, BIMM was mostly younger students, late teens to early 20s and that obviously brings a particular energy to the place, but everyone I met was friendly and welcoming and the staff do a great job of creating this friendly atmosphere about the place. So whilst you may feel out of place initially, everyone should be very approachable and you should fit in very quickly.
Good thing to remember is that everyone is there because they love music, I believe that adds to the nice atmosphere, you're surrounded by music lovers! I'm currently studying a masters degree at a traditional university that offers all sorts of courses and there isn't this feeling of being surrounded by music lovers, that's one of the great strengths of BIMM. Hope this all helps!
@@Harknee Thanks SO much for the comprehensive reply. Sounds like it could be a good option for me. I've limited live experience so that'd be great to learn and being surrounded by other musicians and music in general sounds perfect.
I really appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me. Thank you.
No worries, glad I could help!
I have about a year and a half left to finish high school. I usually only make music at home but I'm not very good at mixing or mastering. What basic skills should I need to practice before going to music production at bimm?I am an international student Can you give me advice about the audition? I'm afraid that I'm not good enough.
If you are already making music at home then I'm sure you'll be good enough! You don't need to be a super producer to get on the course, as long as you have a basic understanding of a DAW, how synthesisers work (oscillators, filters, FX) and microphones, then you'll be fine to study at BIMM. There are a lot of people at BIMM like you who are starting to learn music production and they do really well on the course.
The audition is quite easy, if you can explain how you produced a song and why you chose to use a certain synthesiser or reverb plugin, then you should have no problems.
Also, you have a year and a half to learn lots about music production before you start! If you have any questions, feel free to send me a DM on instagram.
@@Harknee Thank you very much for your help! 😀
@@wadeedadedadeda You're welcome and good luck!
It says for the entry requirement, that they will be discussing "production experience". What exactly does that mean? Does it mean making a few beats or already mixing albums?
I promise you, they let in just about anyone who knows how to use their daw.. That was at least the case for this year's first year students at BIMM Berlin.
Yeah this seemed to be the case for BIMM London too, if you can use a DAW, make some simple beats and be able to explain what you did to a basic level, you'll have no problems getting in. As I said in the video, the first year is all about giving everyone a basic understanding of how a DAW works, so even if you don't know everything about your DAW, don't worry.
Hi, after graduating, what are you currently doing now? (e.g. job, work)
So I am currently working as a technician for a music venue whilst also DJing regularly at a nightclub in south London, but in September, I'll be going back to university to study a Masters Degree in Electronic Music Composition!
Which school is better for music production? BIMM or SRH berlin?
Well considering I've never studied at SRH Berlin, I couldn't tell you🤷🏻♂
Bro look at the google reviews for SRH Berlin, you better not study there.
You probably wont know but is bimm london better for pop/mainstream music than other cities like bristol? Im in bristol and its more alternative music here
I honestly couldn't tell you. London attracts a lot more foreign students so the music at BIMM London is a lot more international
@@Harknee okay and accomodation wise, are there areas that bimm students tend to go to or is it random?
Sorry for the late reply, it's fairly random tbh, I lived in Acton, others lived closer by in Fulham or some lived further out near Southfields.
Can I choose more than one course? at the same time I would like to study music business and music production
No you can't, there might be some modules that cover music business in the production course but it is not possible to study 2 courses at the same time.
Is this course able to be covered by student funding?
Yes, it's covered just like a regular bachelors degree www.bimm.ac.uk/fees-finance/
Is there not a minimum of grade 6 in your chosen instrument to get it?
Instrument grades are irrelevant for music production/technology courses
should you study at BIMM? from a vocalist in BIMM Dublin; no
Why do you say that?
Why say so?