Not really. Some of those old drum machines weren't trying to imitate real drums, but to bring some unique sounds. The sound of acoustic drums was getting a bit boring for some of the music that was being made
George Agustí Álvarez I guess you’re referring to drum machines that use analog synthesis like for example Roland‘s 808 and 909. What I’m referring to in my original comment by saying ‚instruments’ are sample based drum machines like the LinnDrum or the Oberheim DMX. They in fact were created to emulate a real drum kit and hence where used by drummerless acts and bands. Sorry if I was unclear about that.
I can’t believe you left out the specs of the tone wallet sitting on top of the snare. Were there a couple 20’s inside? 2 or 3 maxed out credit cards? I’m amazed at how good this sounded. That’s strong work.
The Revolution’s drum tone that Prince and Bobby Z created was definitely signature to those songs. This was a damn spot ON recreation! Excellent work!
Maybe you're referring to David Z, Bobby's brother, who came up with the sound production on Kiss. But Prince's Linn sound (When Doves Cry and countless others) is purely Prince producing himself. Bobby Z is a fine player, but that's not him on Tamborine or the first twenty minutes of Parade. Or Lady Cab Driver. Or Bambi. Much less anything that Prince ever programmed on the Linn.
My first drum recordings ever were done with headphones as microphones. I put one right under the snare and hats, man it sounded terrible but I had never been so excited. Cool to see a throwback to headphone recordings, great vid!
Roger Linn: "[Prince] was very important to my success. He didn’t just select a stock beat and press ‘play,’ but rather used it in unusual and creative ways, from detuning the drums to no longer sound like drums to the unusual beats he programmed to how he featured it in the mix" - No surprise, Prince was a genius with electronic instruments, too.
I bought a Linndrum ($2500) the year it came out, used it for many years and many upgrades. I think you’ve nailed it. Sold it in the 00s ($175) to a Christian group, it quit working couple years later, and the group didn’t want to pay Forat $350 to repair it! It’s still in the bandleader’s attic.
Prince would've just stared at the drums for a while, until they realised how to sound. (ooh, can we do Prince facts like Chuck Norris facts? Prince once short-circuited his wah-wah pedal, because it actually started crying.)
This is really cool! Not what I was expecting, because I wanted to see vintage drum machines, but I love the technical details of how you guys did this. It would be so cool to see you do a technical walk-through of how to get that gated reverb sound acoustically as well.
Maybe next time make the video longer than five minutes and actually explain *how* you got the sounds you got. There are some really cool ideas here but "We added a ton of processing" doesn't tell us a whole lot about what you actually did in post to get the sound!
You don't need someone telling you exactly what to do. Theres only so many types of processing in the world, you can figure it out if you listen critically. If you copy their processing exactly on your drum kit with your mics, its not going to work.
I'd like to say again what a brilliant job has been done here too catch the vibe of the Linn LM1. It's a pity though that samples and loops weren't made from this, I would've gladly paid for Linn-like drum sounds with the life and variation of being performed by a real drummer on an acoustic drum kit!
Close? N'all, that was a LOT more accurate to the way Prince had his Linn Drum patterns sound. Very accurate, dead-on. If Prince Rogers Nelson heard what y'all did and saw how y'all did it, he would've been proud.
A lot of people call the Linn LM-1 "Linndrum" and is not real, the two are made by Roger Linn but they are different machines guys. The drum sound of Prince that you're trying to recreate is from the Linn LM-1 Drum Computer not the Linndrum wich is the successor of the LM-1.
Well done!!! I never thought to use headphones on a snare, cool idea; I will try it out in the future. I have used a set of Audio-Technica head phones as mics taped close to the lower side of a bridge on a jumbo acoustic guitar. It sounds a bit like two single coil pickups set out of phase; this set up allows a stereo input from the front and back of the guitar, which fills in the signal a little bit.
“Kiss” sounds totally unlike anything on the radio in the 80’s and unlike any of Prince’s other songs. A lot of this is thanks to producer/engineer David Z. From this Sound on Sound article, he explains how they got the really cool rhythm guitar sound: “Anyway, starting with a LinnDrum, I programmed the beat and began experimenting. Taking a hi-hat from the drum machine, I ran it through a delay unit and switched between input and output and in the middle. That created a very funky rhythm. Then I took an acoustic guitar, played these open chords and gated that to the hi-hat trigger. The result was a really unique rhythm that was unbelievably funky but also impossible to actually play... I'm sure that sound influenced the fabulous new Daft Punk song 'Get Lucky', because it uses the same trick, with the guitar gated to some sort of rhythm and sequencer.”
Prince's bass player Mark Brown aka BrownMark had A LOT to do with the song " KISS" but was NEVER properly credited. Not to take anything away from David Z. but interesting he's NEVER been able to do it again...hmmmmm I wonder WHY??? BrownMark from The Revolution on the other hand recorded FIVE solo albums and currently working on a NEW one as we speak...Just sayin...go figure
How about getting that "ka-ka" sound in Let's Go Crazy (among other Prince songs)? Supposedly Prince achieved that by tuning the rimshot sound all the way down.
Excellent! No criticism here, but the kick verb on the record sounds like a Yamaha Rev7 to me. It had a super gritty/sandy sound sound that is so unique.
Well, clearly none of you who replied here is an engineer, that wants a deeper understanding of the processes that took place through detailed explanations alongside samples of the sound throughout the production, so yeah, maybe I get the silliness in your comments. So looking up the drums does nothing, different mics, pres, room etc, neither does “knowing how these drums sound” I for one am not a musician, I work in post, never heard of them, so yeah, please, do show me the starting point, how did it sound before? So yeah michael, nevermind them...
Cool vid! More of these please. Sometimes things get too High Brow and it’s nice to get back to basics of when we couldn’t afford nice gear or had to make due with what we have to find the sounds we want.
Sounds identical to the Linndrum to me, very impressive. Considering the Linndrum used sampling from an acoustic drum to begin with, it makes sense you could recreate the sound
This is really cool. I think it would be interesting to try to get those sounds using purely acoustic treatment on the drums, as if you were a drummer in a low-budget Prince cover band showing up at a dive bar where the best you can hope for is to get miked up.
Wow. Great job recreating this. I love seeing stuff like this.. plus: J-Burd! haha, awesome to see her getting recognized. i used to follow her on Insta long time ago. Boom, here she is, smashin a Kiss replica!
So we’re at a certain point where we use instruments to recreate the sound of machines that tried to recreate the sound of real instruments. Ace!
Not really. Some of those old drum machines weren't trying to imitate real drums, but to bring some unique sounds. The sound of acoustic drums was getting a bit boring for some of the music that was being made
George Agustí Álvarez I guess you’re referring to drum machines that use analog synthesis like for example Roland‘s 808 and 909. What I’m referring to in my original comment by saying ‚instruments’ are sample based drum machines like the LinnDrum or the Oberheim DMX. They in fact were created to emulate a real drum kit and hence where used by drummerless acts and bands. Sorry if I was unclear about that.
He don't have the machine, plus the revers process here is neat and unusual, so interesting indeed.
the lesson is to always look for your own sound
They were actually real drums sampled in the LM. Prince normally pitched them down, thus giving a less acoustic kit type sound he was famous for
I can’t believe you left out the specs of the tone wallet sitting on top of the snare. Were there a couple 20’s inside? 2 or 3 maxed out credit cards?
I’m amazed at how good this sounded. That’s strong work.
"the hard way" like getting your hands on an LM-1 is easy
lol
Right?!
VProm 2.0 is a perfect Linn LM-1 emulator that can also load the eproms from other classic drum machines like the DMX and DrumTrax.
GarageBand on the iPhone comes with a great linndrum.
@@AdamBorseti Vprom is a marvellous imitation LinnDrumm
That's a pretty big sound from only 3 instruments. Well done.
That's tons of compression for you ;)
You don’t have to be rich 2 rule my world!!! This was pretty cool!!! 👍
Brilliant. As a LinnDrum owner and LD emulation plugin developer I can only say you nailed it!
She really captured the feel with her playing. The engineering was great too.
The Revolution’s drum tone that Prince and Bobby Z created was definitely signature to those songs. This was a damn spot ON recreation! Excellent work!
It was only prince on that linn drum
Maybe you're referring to David Z, Bobby's brother, who came up with the sound production on Kiss. But Prince's Linn sound (When Doves Cry and countless others) is purely Prince producing himself.
Bobby Z is a fine player, but that's not him on Tamborine or the first twenty minutes of Parade. Or Lady Cab Driver. Or Bambi. Much less anything that Prince ever programmed on the Linn.
@@bonatoc well spoken
back in my day we use REAL Linn drums. kids nowadays have it easy *grump
Ahmad ilyas"And they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids"
Yeah, they have their GarageBand and FL Studios.
Its expensive
The Linn LM-1 was heard in the song "Kiss" (1986).
My first drum recordings ever were done with headphones as microphones. I put one right under the snare and hats, man it sounded terrible but I had never been so excited. Cool to see a throwback to headphone recordings, great vid!
Roger Linn: "[Prince] was very important to my success. He didn’t just select a stock beat and press ‘play,’ but rather used it in unusual and creative ways, from detuning the drums to no longer sound like drums to the unusual beats he programmed to how he featured it in the mix" - No surprise, Prince was a genius with electronic instruments, too.
For anyone wanting the linn sound, check out the Junn JM-1 VST, it’s completely free and sounds great
tell it to these idiots
Theres one called DJ Dinn or something along those lines thats free that also lets you mess with the mixing and pitch like a real Linn Drum too!
@@brooklynboy1000 Why so hostile?
Holy shit release these as a sample pack
That was awesome, you 2 did a fantastic job ... please do more Prince, he has so much great stuff to choose from, not only drums.
I bought a Linndrum ($2500) the year it came out, used it for many years and many upgrades. I think you’ve nailed it. Sold it in the 00s ($175) to a Christian group, it quit working couple years later, and the group didn’t want to pay Forat $350 to repair it! It’s still in the bandleader’s attic.
This was beyond nerdiliciously amazing. Please put this out as a drum kit!
Prince would've just stared at the drums for a while, until they realised how to sound. (ooh, can we do Prince facts like Chuck Norris facts? Prince once short-circuited his wah-wah pedal, because it actually started crying.)
LMAO!
Prince once slapped a bass so hard, the bass turned around to him and whispered in his ear, "do it harder, daddy ❤️".
@@DeadWhiteButterflies ✊
Prince didn't wear high heels. After listening to Do Me Baby, his Vans got a boner.
Comment GOLD!
Thanks Reverb. You got it close as hell. Do more like this we are loving it.
This is really cool! Not what I was expecting, because I wanted to see vintage drum machines, but I love the technical details of how you guys did this. It would be so cool to see you do a technical walk-through of how to get that gated reverb sound acoustically as well.
How to get linn drum sounds out of linn drum.
1. Turn it on
2. Use it
Maybe next time make the video longer than five minutes and actually explain *how* you got the sounds you got. There are some really cool ideas here but "We added a ton of processing" doesn't tell us a whole lot about what you actually did in post to get the sound!
Id imagine a SHIT load of gate
Thank you
Use your imagination muscles.
You don't need someone telling you exactly what to do. Theres only so many types of processing in the world, you can figure it out if you listen critically. If you copy their processing exactly on your drum kit with your mics, its not going to work.
I'd like to say again what a brilliant job has been done here too catch the vibe of the Linn LM1. It's a pity though that samples and loops weren't made from this, I would've gladly paid for Linn-like drum sounds with the life and variation of being performed by a real drummer on an acoustic drum kit!
Sounds really good, well done! Love the wallet on the snare touch!
Close? N'all, that was a LOT more accurate to the way Prince had his Linn Drum patterns sound. Very accurate, dead-on.
If Prince Rogers Nelson heard what y'all did and saw how y'all did it, he would've been proud.
The highest possible compliment. Thanks for watching!
@@Reverb Welcome as always. Planning to get some things from your store soon as well. Can't wait!
proud, or mad that someone figured out his secrets! he was known to be competitive...
cool stuff... never heard anyone describe a vistalite having a "warm" attack lol.
Vistalites are warm and loud, especially if you've got a vintage one with coated heads
Probably one of the least warm drums you could use lol
tell that to the 4 sets i've worked with....
It's definitely not the same as a 3 ply vintage kit. But there is a certain unique, powerful warm tone.
The warm sound comes just when u kill it with lot of pillows.
Best acoustic drum kit I've ever heard!
That was awesome. So many techniques in one short vid. Thank you.
I wish we got some one shots cuz this was amazing.
It feels like it's warmer then the LM-1.
I’ve had several LinnDrums, this was a lot of fun 😊
That sounds awesome. Very creative. Well done!
loved the headphone trick! almost sounds like a phone mic
You guys nailed it.
Sounds better and more lively.good job!
Ok, I loved this a little too much. Great work!
A lot of people call the Linn LM-1 "Linndrum" and is not real, the two are made by Roger Linn but they are different machines guys. The drum sound of Prince that you're trying to recreate is from the Linn LM-1 Drum Computer not the Linndrum wich is the successor of the LM-1.
Actually, Kiss was recorded using a Linn 9000, so you're both wrong.
Utterly amazing
Makes me wish I never quit music class. Excellent sound!
Fantastic sound.
I see Prince & Linndrum. I click.
awesome- would love to see you do up 1999 drums
but real talk that is a legendary kick/snare sound, good ear and creativity putting this together!
Well done!!! I never thought to use headphones on a snare, cool idea; I will try it out in the future. I have used a set of Audio-Technica head phones as mics taped close to the lower side of a bridge on a jumbo acoustic guitar. It sounds a bit like two single coil pickups set out of phase; this set up allows a stereo input from the front and back of the guitar, which fills in the signal a little bit.
Sounds really awesome
I don’t know about the kick but snare was impressive.
That snare was a lot punchier and less sizzly (a good thing really) than the Linn
INCREDIBLE!!!! Kudos aplenty!!!
Sounds pretty spot-on.
“Kiss” sounds totally unlike anything on the radio in the 80’s and unlike any of Prince’s other songs. A lot of this is thanks to producer/engineer David Z. From this Sound on Sound article, he explains how they got the really cool rhythm guitar sound: “Anyway, starting with a LinnDrum, I programmed the beat and began experimenting. Taking a hi-hat from the drum machine, I ran it through a delay unit and switched between input and output and in the middle. That created a very funky rhythm. Then I took an acoustic guitar, played these open chords and gated that to the hi-hat trigger. The result was a really unique rhythm that was unbelievably funky but also impossible to actually play... I'm sure that sound influenced the fabulous new Daft Punk song 'Get Lucky', because it uses the same trick, with the guitar gated to some sort of rhythm and sequencer.”
Prince's bass player Mark Brown aka BrownMark had A LOT to do with the song " KISS" but was NEVER properly credited. Not to take anything away from David Z. but interesting he's NEVER been able to do it again...hmmmmm I wonder WHY??? BrownMark from The Revolution on the other hand recorded FIVE solo albums and currently working on a NEW one as we speak...Just sayin...go figure
Excellent stuff. I love this company and the people who work there seem so nice!
How about getting that "ka-ka" sound in Let's Go Crazy (among other Prince songs)? Supposedly Prince achieved that by tuning the rimshot sound all the way down.
Excellent! No criticism here, but the kick verb on the record sounds like a Yamaha Rev7 to me. It had a super gritty/sandy sound sound that is so unique.
Amazing sound and love the recording techniques!
Would love to have seen more detail on the processing
Wish I could have heard what the drums sounded like acoustically without all the processing.
Umm, just look up Yamaha Jimmy Chamberlin Signature Snare. What that drum sounds like in its natural state was clearly not the point of this video
You wouldn't because then the bass drum beater tapping the head multiple times after each hit would be audible.
How do you not know what these drums sound like?
Well, clearly none of you who replied here is an engineer, that wants a deeper understanding of the processes that took place through detailed explanations alongside samples of the sound throughout the production, so yeah, maybe I get the silliness in your comments.
So looking up the drums does nothing, different mics, pres, room etc, neither does “knowing how these drums sound” I for one am not a musician, I work in post, never heard of them, so yeah, please, do show me the starting point, how did it sound before?
So yeah michael, nevermind them...
@@GL-uy3fd i've been an engineer for 15 years... Your comment is bobbins. Everyone knows.
No one can program a drum machine like P.. he would run the LM1 through his Boss effects petals and stomp boxes to enhance the sound the way he wanted
Cool vid! More of these please. Sometimes things get too High Brow and it’s nice to get back to basics of when we couldn’t afford nice gear or had to make due with what we have to find the sounds we want.
This is excellent content 🙌
You guys are frickin geniuses wow! that sounded close to the original.
Spot on!
Really bang on. Very impressive!!!
Sounds identical to the Linndrum to me, very impressive. Considering the Linndrum used sampling from an acoustic drum to begin with, it makes sense you could recreate the sound
That snare is godly
That was awesome, please make more these!
if i had a drum set up like this i would never leave the throne!
Well this was fun. Really enjoyed it!
I love this so much.
Super cool, still plenty of Linn drum samples for free on the internet. But, it’s fun and why not.
This is really cool. I think it would be interesting to try to get those sounds using purely acoustic treatment on the drums, as if you were a drummer in a low-budget Prince cover band showing up at a dive bar where the best you can hope for is to get miked up.
Amazingly close to the original. You should contact the Native Instruments people, proceed and make a virtual instrument of it for Kontakt!
I'd buy, take my monaaaay!
Da haben Sie vollkommen Recht Herr Jäger.
Grüße aus dem Sauerland
Killer!! Great job guys!!
This actually sounds hella cool.
That was a fun little trip 🙏
Super cool!
thanks Reverb comment section for reminding me to never scroll down
man this snare sounds awesome. give us the samples wav quality guuys!!!
@ still waiting tho 😂
It sounds great!
Amazing work!
THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE LYNN-DRUM,,,IN FACT IF I CLOSE MY EYES I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A LYNN-DRUM PLAYING,,,,,INCREDIBLE !!!!!!!
it’s like watching magicians create their own version of a famous magic trick and then exposing their secret of their trick.
Sound amazing
Sounds awesome, I love it!
Close enough. Good job guys
Very close. Great job.
Sounds like a Linn drum to me. Great job 👍 guys.
Very close! And that is cool I didn't know they used delay to get the 16th-note embelishments from the hi hat
really cool . I love these vids.
Sounds great; thanks : D
You should attempt the classic Prince pitched down Linn Rimshot with this kit on a separate snare
Very nice work........
Wow. Great job recreating this. I love seeing stuff like this.. plus: J-Burd! haha, awesome to see her getting recognized. i used to follow her on Insta long time ago.
Boom, here she is, smashin a Kiss replica!
So good!
So dope. Great job
Sounds pretty damn good. Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend then.
Wow i really enjoyed this very interesting as well as satisfying great work..
Loved it.I,ve been working on SignO the Times with my double pedal.I'd like to hear your version.
@reverb could we get a sample pack of some of those drum sounds?
Amazing!
Love it! Nicely done.
Cool!👍 Very interesting. Great job guys
Its really really...great...thanks a lot...i learned alot!
Great job!
LOVE it ! :D Great work ! :D