How To Perform Rust Repair on a Rear Quarter Panel
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Excessive rust is an ugly sight. To cure our Caprice of this ailment, we physically cut out the rusty panel, ground out any corroded spots, and replaced it all with some new metal.
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Those little tack welds every inch or two is a welding procedure called bridging. It allows the heat of the weld to dissipate throughout the metal with alot less chance of warping or the weld falling thru from to much heat buildup.
I learned that procedure from a 50 year old Boilermaker back in 1988. That man taught me more in two weeks about welding than any other single person in my life
I’m a Master Plumber with a similar story about the man who trained me. In 1988 I was just get my feet wet.
@@Iwillnotbepushed Now its your turn to pass that knowledge down to the younger generation.
All those people who sit in offices working on computers never get the satisfaction of looking back at a job, seeing what you have built with your own two hands the quality and craftsmanship of a job well done.
@@mikhail2400As a software developer I get the satisfaction of a job no one has to do anymore because I automated it. It can be equally as satisfying when millions of people use what you built, even if it's "just" software.
I still like to work on my car, build furniture, etc. - physical and digital projects are not mutually exclusive, one can enjoy both.
I had a job where I worked long shifts with dirty hands and sweat in my face for 8 years, and I can only say: Just do what makes you happy. Claiming that people with different jobs cannot feel happy when they complete a project will not make you happier.
@@HouseGurkei built a business and do garage doors, currently learning software development to switch careers to something that i can travel with and to do something im not stuck in -20f fiddling with bolts with the snow flying anymore.
@@HouseGurke A job well done is a reward in itself and any type of work can be a source of satisfaction.
I wasnt trying to say people who do computer work can never feel pride in a job well done though apparently I didnt say that very well. Sorry if I came across like that
I was taught to spot weld it, but keep jumping around until they all connect, keep heat down but still gets a full weld the whole way. Then grind and fill.
Tack weld, not spot weld. Those are different procedures. Tack weld and dolly hammer the welds to prevent shrinkage.
Ah, power nation. The shows that raised me. I didn't know when I was young that all these shows were 28 minute commercials for new automotive products. But I did learn a lot watching them.
Thank god someone that cuts the rust out not just plate over it
Holy crap!! I finally found a video of Someone who knows what their doing.
Sir you restored that vehicle and my faith in humanity!👍
I didn't improve my metal patch panel repairs until I worked in a shop with a lift. I appreciated it so much my panel repairs became the picture of autobody beauty!
im happy you rustproofed inside , some people dont and it really gets on my nerves
Step 1. Aquire a fully equipped shop.
A fully equipped shop should probably have a spot weld drill bit
Could build one into a uhaul with a generator and all the stuff he used not hard.
Sounds like you lease anyways
Thank god i live in the south
Bro its 2 tools and some tape
Try harder...
Looks like a previous life in Michigan
Or New England
Or Illinois
Yup, this is a tried and true set of techniques right here. I’ve used every one of them.
Here come all the experts.
Pro tip. Use a "scratch awl" tool on the paint marker line and follow the scratch. I get precision cuts
I dont know how anybody uses anything else
Plasma cutter is faster
@@DaDude999 a plasma cutter leaves slag which has to be ground off
You know a step bit works amazingly for drilling out those factory spot welds.!!
Great weld. Not too sure about that rust treatment. Best remove it all.
Good afternoon, this is your captain! We have a couple of minor repairs to the back panel before taxi and take off.
Ahhh a little metal with your rust, looks mint.
I got rust in my eye watching you pull that panel off.
These jobs are real simple when you have every tool known to man and the shop ready to go
So like...a professional? Maybe one who's showing folks how he works? At this latitude? Localized entirely in his workshop's YT channel?
@@ulogymay I see it?
bro used a grinder and a welder and you're acting like he's a millionaire
@@unploog did you miss the lift, that's in a shop, or would you prefer to lie in the dirt while you work outside? Don't forget a decent compressor. the grinder won't work well with pancake from lowe's.
@@bobbing4snapples Yeah, just lay on the ground job gets done either way. Buy a corded grinder.
If you don't get rid of 100% of that rust it's like cancer just keeps growing and growing
Man I wish i had this guys life
Thats a cool marker man gotta give it to you keep up the good job
Welds on the back-side of the new panel can’t be painted.
Spray the new cavity inside with a water dispersant product. Something that won’t dry up and peel over time will protect the heat affected areas.
You can used weld through primer like steel it
Grinding the tack down with "blunt" grinding disc releases the tension in the tack. Every tack "shrinks in" after it cools down, so that shrinkage tension must be released.
Back when LT used to run the show... good times
Fun video for people that don’t know. For those that do, this is what you call a hack
Rust flakes are excellent Iron source when spread on ur lawns !
Take your. Time
Great video, thanks!
Those tac welds without finish welding it completely closed is a sure fire way for it to let rust come back in a huge hurry, I see it all the time even on outer panels then people will just slather Bondo over it and you done nothing but took someone's money and guaranteed a for sure come back for redo when it bubbles very quick
They make a spot weld bit just for such projects.
I had a talk today with a good mark panel’s employee today about how they do not have a big variety of gm B-body complete floor panes and trunk panel for b body vehicles and they say they can put them in production if more people sign a petition to get it in production for every gm b body can be made they have tons of parts for gm A body and G -body
You realize that we have the technology to manufacture these products in a fashion that would not rust out in less than 10 years...
what method are you taking about?
@@gavinmukenschnabl9581 all methods avoided through planned obsolescence
@@toddgrove5639 Nice job sidestepping the requested answer. What technology are you saying he should have used?
@Fuch Goog numerous technologies including alloys, rust proof coatings and design. Not side stepping bro, my point being the early failure of numerous parts are included in their design.
@@toddgrove5639 what method are you going to do that isn’t just coating it. that’s basic shit buds.
I’d like to offer a moment of silence for anyone that repairs cars in the rust belt. What takes me 10 minutes and a squirt of WD40, can take 3 hours, a torch, PB blaster, a marriage, and the discovery that a vehicle is headed for the scrap pile in a rust state.
Ever do contests for viewers? Like if you enter, you have the chance for us to fix your 1969 ford mustang on our show. Just an idea.
Awesome work. That flag is great too.
Wow that rocker panel looks like a thermite Factory
grinding can not create as much heat as welding but it can get hot
I spent about 6 years working a body shop. Rust work was always my least favorite.
Man, I hate cutting sheet metal like that. You can just patch and make it look perfect. The only difference is you're going to know theres a patch there, but no one else will.
Yes adding in fresh raw metal will fix it
I use TIG tack welds, less time grinding
That panel is ROASTED.
one day i wonder if i'll own/rent my own garage and welder/welders, so much money spent on hand tools, I could run my own shop
Anybody else catch that sanding disc sounding like a cutoff wheel for a second there
Is that possibly an old Chevrolet Impala? I recognize the body lines.
Bro put a fresh piece of metal over that rust that’s gon last one winter buddy😂
Holy chit LT actually had hair 😂😂😂
Rust treat ? What Brand was that ?
This! I would really like to know as well
same!!!! 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙌🏼
Same here.
Monster level skills!
The bad part about having an 20 year old truck is that the paint from back in the day doesn't hold up as good as today's weather proof paint.
The good part about having an old truck is that it was made absolutely bomb-proof and structures were thick as hell, so it could take 15 years of rust before it was structurally damaged.
Today's car paneling and structures are so thin that only 5 years of rust will start affecting the structure, or they're not even made of steel at all, it's all aluminum and plastic.
Youngsters! Trying to teach Packard restorers a thing or two!
Had me at grinding stone 😘
Wry well done!
Distortion. Is the term you’re looking for sir
Grinding can’t create just as much heat as welding. It can however create enough heat to still warp your metal. Those two things are not the same.
You must have cone here from Reddit.
@@mattd7566 nope, just been a metal fabricator for twenty years and I have deep seated disdain for misinformation.
@@stuffandthings8767
You can grind something that you can weld with it.i have to school some people
damn what state you in because I’d be sweating in the shop with all those clothes on. 😂
Great video, one question? What type of welds did you use for the panel?
"keep in mind grinding can create just as much heat as welding" my brother in Christ... It 100 percent does not
Still easier than trying to wrench on these new plastic pieces of crap lol
I went to a shop to get a quote for a rust and they chased me out.
Where’s the guy with the rug?
"Some extra corrosion"...
We need LT back not the wish version
What do you do about the bare metal inside the repair? What keeps it from rusting again in there
What product did you brush on to “rust treat”
71 or 72 Impala
I use a mig to tack everything then tig the rest, it puts much less heat into the steel. If you mig everything its a bitch to do any dolly work
Try silicone-bronze on the wire feed?
By the way does anybody know what product he uses for The brush on Rust treatment?
Great info but you’ll never be able to create as much heat with a grinder as you do with a welder. It gets hot sure but it dissipates too quickly to even approach the delta. If you’re grinding thin stuff like this hard enough to create that kind of heat anyway then there’s likely no thin stuff left lik
what was that rust treatment? phosphoric acid?
So if I buy a 500 dollar scrap car you’re telling me there’s a chance I can save it with just a welder, some spare metal, and know how?
I need a true red neck to teach me the cheapest way of doing this
What did you use for "rust treatment" there, por 15?
Tacks, not spot weld
If you can get quarters get full quarters. This is a “good repair” but not the best
Mmmm mmm...rust crispies...lol
Why draw a line if you're leaving the tape? Lmao!
Just replace the whole panel
Guy needs a mask.
From the smoke coming from Canada?
Then, how do you clean off the pen?😂
what was the marker for?
Ah. A one year old Fiat
“Rear” quarter panel 😂
Yu dont like weld or what?
Typical rust spots on a Mercedes…
Показывают какую то дичь и столько лайков 🤷♂️
And now you've enclosed all that other rust behind it... it'll rust again in no time. Terrible fix.
rust treat! thats a joke.
But it's only original one 🤣🤣.
Must be a ford......with rust like that.
What did you rust treat it with ?
Probably some kind of rust remover or a product that converts the iron oxide to something less reactive
I’m guessing fiberglass resin?
I get rid of cars with rust and don't bother!!
Rusted to hell! 🙈
Pickling paste with no mask? 😜 that’s how she’s done
Probably a 10 minute job.
"Stitch weld" not "spot weld", spot weld is much different. You guys know what a spot welder is.
Words mean things.
I can not understand why owners never applied any rust treatment earlier on . That would have prevented all of this repairs😢
Lt
*Hey Here's great tip guys...Ready???..OK...Here it goes...DON'T DRIVE YOUR CAR IN SALT!!!...OR...DON'T LIVE WHERE THEY PUT SALT ON UR CAR...Genius I know huh*
Everyone does 😂 can you buy us all a house out of the city?? Like "YOU" said where they "don't use salt" 😂😂 thanks, see ya soon 😅
Ok for us poor working man easy said than done
@@richardzubeck8704 ooo you can just get one of those sprayers to spray off the bottom on your car when you do drive on it
1st
🤦♀️. This is what not to do😑. Using a body saw means that you're not unnecessarily heating the metal that you're trying to save. Better yet get nibblers. If you don't have the correct tools leave it alone until you do. Also there is two part epoxy so you no longer have to weld🙄.
Not really a right or wrong way you just seem to suck at welding. New glues are crazy from 3m but a weld always wins if you have access to both sides
I'm not tracking a car I glue together..
@@Gu1tarZer0 it's for non stressed panels🙄. This still isn't the proper way to remove panels🤦♀️. A lot of their work seems sketchy. I wouldn't buy any of it.
@@Gu1tarZer0 Also you'll never see speeds high enough to effect it anyway.