Just pure awesomeness and humbled. That we are more than just live or die and become nothing again. That our lives live on... I'm so looking forward to going home and continue to be ever learning and growing in God's wisdom! This was another great show, I can't start or end my day without watching your shows! It gives me comfort and joy, love and blessings 😇🙏🌺
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your thoughts with us, Pamelyn! You bring US comfort and joy! So glad we can share the same with you. Love and blessings to you too!
I haven’t watched one of your videos in a while (been busy), but now I’m reminded how great they (and you) are! Going to start watching regularly again.
It is so amazing the information you present to us. I can’t believe I spent all my life not knowing the material about the soul. Many thanks and blessings to all !
We're so happy to know that this information is resonating with your heart and mind! Thank you for watching, and we're wishing many blessings to you, too!
Best ever show! Very few in the established churches know or believe anything about these truths. They don't touch this subject. When will The lord allow the church, the body of Christ, be exposed to and taught this? Well then, it's up to each of us to lovingly present these truths to whomever we can. Ask The Lord to show you how to best reach the most amount of people, using your most precious gifts....
So glad this resonates with you, John! Yes, we hope these ideas circulate and help others, because they've been so useful to us! We sure hope we can be of service in spreading ideas that can make people happy and hopeful! You might like our episode, 'The Future of Religion," ua-cam.com/video/o5GgzMJOTKM/v-deo.html for some more thoughts on that! Let us know what you think!
What a great episode! I'm reminded of the visual aid Curtis used in a previous show...where the sponge absorbed the water...like the soul fills the shape of the body.
Oh I really needed this. Thank you! You've reminded me that we are all vessels of love and wisdom and that it's up to us to use that in ways that honour God and others.
I just wanted to thank you a lot for all of your great content. In december 2020,i fell into a really heavy depression,flooded with thoughts of life after death. I was questioning gods existence,and was at a point where i no longer found any purpose in life,and found life meaningless. This channel really helped me a lot. Thank you!
Wow, Alper King! I'm so sorry for all that you have been going through, but I am so honored to hear we could be of use to you during this difficult time! I think most of us here at Off The Left Eye can relate to how life saving these ideas can be, you are not alone! It means so much to know that we were any help to you! I hope things are going better for you, and I am sending you thoughts of love and peace and good health!
@@offTheLeftEye Thanks. But to this day i still have my doubts too,i guess they're part of us all! One of the other things i've been dealing with is my Christian faith,anf swedenborgs theology. The way Christians describe god confuses me,since they describe him as loving and a father figure,at the same time they say he's jealous. I personally don't care what people say about Swedenborg, or whatever he was mentally ill or not. I personally believe him,cause as some philosophers,and people who worked with mysthical things always said ,when you've spiritual experiences keep them to yourself,because you will be classified mentally ill. I think the schools should teach about Swedenborg,instead of teaching Nietzche or Campus,they really just deceive the youth to thing there doesn't exist anything outside of this spiritual world!
@@Asilentlearner43 I can relate - it has definitely been useful, to say the least, for me personally to believe in a larger spiritual world, and I am very grateful for Swedenborg! I wish everyone was interested, because I think it would make everyone so happy! But we have to find these things in our own way, I guess. Maybe someday it will be more out there. Although I will say that I think Swedenborg's ideas have impacted the modern, mainstream world more than people realize, because he influenced so many deep thinkers! Check out "Swedenborg's Influence Game Show" ua-cam.com/video/IZ20NPJk2_Q/v-deo.html We did an episode about why God seems so angry in the Bible, which is why Christians have such a conflicting view of God being loving and angry... check it out! "Why Is God Angry In the Bible?" ua-cam.com/video/yVb66mnefPc/v-deo.html And yes, even angels have doubts and cycles of ups and downs! Check out "Angels have Good Days and Bad Days" ua-cam.com/video/PfTKBbXC4NU/v-deo.html It's a long journey, isn't it! Wishing you well!
Great episode (yet again). The explanation around our souls and why they are eternal - that is the best explanation/description of our souls that I have ever come across by far and "Feels" very right to me. Thank you again.
I'm so sorry to hear you constantly feel fear, Jonathan Ayers Ornelas - and so glad our channel can help you with that! Have you seen these short episodes? "How to Detach from Fear," ua-cam.com/video/xQRTEb0O2_A/v-deo.html and "The Fear Eater: Why Life Isn't As Fun As It Should Be" ua-cam.com/video/rm9yRAx_qvU/v-deo.html Maybe they will help provide some useful tools to keep the fear at bay, and bring you more peace! God Bless!
Glad you found it interesting, Tim! It's a heady topic! Reminds me a bit of this episode, where Curtis talks about infinite parts forming a whole, "The Why is Everything..." ua-cam.com/video/B9We89GJVzs/v-deo.html
Mr Curtis thanks! I've been reading the Word from the Lord Jesus Christ thru Swedenborg for the past 30 years. I met Mr Ray Silverman when he was pastoring in Pittsburgh. I also had a chance to met Pastor Eric. I don't know if you know but if you do please let them know that I'm still in the Word! Great program as always 👏🏾
That's lovely to hear, Sacred Lux60! This is Chara, not Curtis, but I know both Ray and Eric, and would love to pass on that greeting to both of them. Will they recognize you by the name of Sacred Lux60, or can I give them another name? I'm so glad you are still feeling fed by these ideas 30 years later!
Like always, Great Job! Curtis! You do a wonderful service to the World. Thank you. Eternal gratitude. Now, everyone: if you read or slightly familiar with the Bible, you will see that the human body is merely a ceramic or clay doll, which came alive by God breathing Himself in us. We are *only* a living being because the Creator (God, Yahweh, The Father) breathe life into us. *Gen 2:7* The physical, human body, that we look at in the mirror, that we feed, bath, cloth, put to bed at night, is for all intentions and purposes, a garment which holds God,(the Spirit). We are the garment, the Temple, the Tent, which houses God. We are - a lump of clay, formed from the earth by the Creator, similarly to a potter creating a ceramic pot to hold his water or food. We are a living being, walking, talking, eating, only because God's breathe is in us. Think of it this way: a child has an automated doll, which can walk, open it's mouth, move its eyes, and talk...but only if there's a battery in that doll. That battery is God in us. Remove the battery and the doll is motionless. When God's Spirit leaves our body we are lifeless - back to the dust we go. Essentially, we are God....in the form of Man, all of us. *Psalm 82:6-8* ; *John 10:34-36* . You are God. We are God. God is in us, and we are in Him. God created man (Adam) as a garment to hold God. Why? Because God is invisible. Because God wanted to Expand, and because God wanted to Experience. *God is the 2nd Man* in us. *1 Cor 15:45-46* - God is the 2nd Adam. The 1st Adam is the natural, physical, human body, that we see, touch, feed, clean & carry. *Philippians 2:7-8* - God emptied himself, and took the form of man (as a servant). *John 1:1-14* - God (the Word) became flesh and dwell *in* us. *Isaiah 42:1* I have put my Spirit *in* Him. God and His Spirit is One. And God is also The Word. God is Man, and Man is God. God lives in the form of man (as us). We are God but we don't know it. The story is all in Scriptures, hidding in plain sight. The question then is, how is God in me and I don't know it? Because He, God, is sound asleep in us. It is called the sleep of death. *Psalm 44:22-24* David is crying out: Wake up oh Father! Why are you sleeping? Arise! Do not sleep forever! All through the Psalms, David is crying to The Father to awake, Arise from sleep!: *Psalm 7:6* ; Psalm 35:23; Psalm 74:1; Psalm 77:7; Psalm 78:65; Psalm 88:14; God is 'dead' or 'died' in man, but not really. He is sound asleep, like death, but will rise again. That's the Resurrection spoken of in Scriptures. *John 3* - call 'born anew', or born again. The Spiritual birth. *Luke 23:33* God is buried in the Skull of man. Also in Matt, Mark, & *Gen **15:12* - when God feel asleep in man, which is the horror of great darkness; the darkest hour - signifies when God fell asleep in us. The great, deep, sleep of death. Read it in the gospel of John, Hebrews, Romans, & Corinthians & Isaiah..
I love this, Momo Gi! Thank you for taking the time to write all of this. Really powerful ideas! This idea of God being born anew in each of us - a personal, constant resurrection - really resonates with me! It sounds like Swedenborg's idea of being 'born again," what he calls regeneration - the process of spiritual growth that is ongoing and continuous in each of us, as we become closer to God (or God becomes more awake within)! Here are some episodes that your words reminded me of, if you're interested at all! On being reborn: "Regeneration: How Radical Love is Born" ua-cam.com/video/UIK00Yg_rc8/v-deo.html On God within: "Why Does The Bible Say We Are Gods?" ua-cam.com/video/dU5awiNPX2o/v-deo.html "The Infinite In You" ua-cam.com/video/8KPZKkrijxo/v-deo.html On the idea of spiritual death, or sleep: "Why Does The Bible Say People Sleep In the Grave?" ua-cam.com/video/2_ft7b5jk2M/v-deo.html or this short clip is also relevant, "What Does the Bible Mean by 'The Dead Know Nothing'?" ua-cam.com/video/tNQNrQDofGY/v-deo.html I'd love to hear your thoughts, if you watch any of these, Momo Gi! I think you'll like them! Thanks for sharing your insights here!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you. I have watched many of your Swedenborg episodes. I will again watch the ones you sent her & comment. Much of what Swedenborg talked about is confirmed by NEVILLE GODDARD. Please read or listen to Neville Goddard's work for further confirmation, or clarification of Swedenborg's work.
@@offTheLeftEye Well, I think to further that statement that the vibe in heaven can even be like "we'll see about that!". That's usually how I here it.
So, tell me this is a coincidence....I've been thinking of a favorite college professor of late, who passed away some time ago, and was actually dreaming of a visitation from him. In the dream, he was full of love, peace, and mystery. A couple of days later, I listen to this wonderful excerpt. Just FYI, I stopped believing in coincidence a long time ago, LOL.....Be Blessed!
So cool, Deena! What a great connection - I wonder if he had some influence here! So glad to hear he is doing well in the other world! Thank you for sharing that!
@@offTheLeftEye Its not out of the realm of possibility.....thank u for the episode. I just bought the 2 beautiful purple hardcovers of True Christianity as a present to myself. I can't wait to dive into them...
How did Swedenborg remember in such detail such a complex speech by the master angel? Certainly he was a genius to comprehend enough to even express it in words.
I wonder the same, Terry! He was definitely a brilliant man. Did you ever see our episode, "Was Swedenborg Crazy?" ua-cam.com/video/K_ZP30NFYf8/v-deo.html It's a great overview of Swedenborg's accomplishments, life, and credentials if you're curious about the man himself!
@@offTheLeftEye yes Curtis. I devoured much information about Swedenborg. The series of books by Rev George Vale Owens paints a similar picture of heaven, with lectures and auditoriums.
I used to think to love a car..a house..a certain food etc, was a misplaced love. Then years later..I thought about it again..and it came to me that, as long as you feel that emotion..even for inanimate objects that can't feel nor respond to that love..it shows you have love within you..and surely it's that which is important..not the what...?
Well said, Jack! I think it's okay to enjoy and appreciate material things, so long as we don't "worship" them and prioritize material things over spiritual ones. But we can love something for the joy it brings us or others, for its use (a car is pretty useful in our modern world!), etc. So long as those loves don't distract from what really matters - loving each other and doing good! What do you think?
@@offTheLeftEye I think the word love is overused and is used too explain many other pleasant emotions. Its seems too be one emotion fits all..just as we use the word hate..one word fits all..when other emotions would do to explain how you feel. I don't like this food..I hate it..or I hate it when that happens etc ? The word becomes meaningless. Same when talking or understanding love..I love what you did..I love the taste of that food..the word becomes meaningless. You can enjoy the feelings you have for an object, the pleasure it gives, but love...??? The two opposites I use sparingly..hate, not at all. Hatred, unlike love...hurts the one who hates..and not the hated. Love is like a warm breeze..it makes everyone it touches feel good. In short..love creates..hate destroys. Don't get me wrong, I have met people I have disliked..but never hated..even those who have betrayed me..I forgive them..but they have lost my trust and friendship..and yet, I don't turn my back on them if they need help. I realised long ago that people who betray a friend..have the problem..not the one betrayed. Last..I 'love' nature..God's creation..I am a vegetarian and will not eat anything that once had a heart beat and a spirit.
@@offTheLeftEye I would like to add something about me..When asked am I a Christian..I say no. I am not a Christian..I follow my own path. A saying of mine is..There are thinkers and there are talkers..I am a thinker...though on occasions like writing..I display my thoughts for anyone to see..and comment on..agree or disagree. I do like reading of other peoples experiences and beliefs...sometimes something someone writes..gives me food for thought.
@@offTheLeftEye By the way..when you comment..who is it that is commenting on my comments or liking a comment I make. Daft question..but there you are. 😀
I wonder if it's the other way around that we take our attachment to images of things here over there and back again. Then these things become timelessly epic, like a lectern.
Yes, I do think there is influence going both ways, as people keep changing and progressing in both worlds, so that's a great way to think about it! Thanks so much for watching!
Hi, JM! When two people in love are separated by death, their love survives! Since we are defined by what (and who!) we love the most, your connection to your husband endures. You may find this episode interesting! It's called, "There is a Union of Minds in a Twin Flame Relationship." ua-cam.com/video/0mnbwQtcZ7M/v-deo.html
One thing that has drawn me to Swedenborg is how what he says is so convergent with, not only so many other religions, but of the many analyses of NDE accounts over the many decades they've been analyzed. You asked us to comment on how we react to what the scholar angel says...well, it sounds like he may be saying that our souls, collectively, make up the consciousness of God, or rather parts of the consciousness of God. Is that right, or am I way off? ("...and therefore a dwelling place for God"). What's interesting about that sentiment is that it sounds very buddhist of all things, that there is only one consciousness and that the differences in us are simply the material differences between us leading us to do different things, but our consciousness is just the awareness and witnessing of all that. It's not quite the same, but it sort of feels like maybe it feeds into that a little.
I love your thoughtfulness, Phil. Thank you for sharing your thinking with us! That phrase, a "dwelling place for God" stands out to me. In Swedenborg's book, Divine Love and Wisdom, he writes that we human beings are not God but that God created us to be recipients of divine love. Vessels. Our acceptance of God's love and our willingness to use his divine wisdom to bring alive love -- through useful activity -- is the purpose of our creation. When we cooperate with God by taking actions that stem from love and wisdom, we are making use of the will and understanding he gifted us. With regard to a shared consciousness, I think it's true that our minds are unified in purpose when each of us does our part. Like the many organs of a human body working together to move it from one place to another.
@@offTheLeftEye Yes, a vessel. Clear distinction that we are not God, but are like God. Very Christian. Still, interesting comparison. Thanks for the response.
@@ppartin It is indeed an interesting comparison! And actually, there was a Zen master named D.T. Suzuki who called Swedenborg the "Buddha of the North," and wrote a whole book about the parallels between Swedenborg's concepts and Mahayana Buddhism. And I'll add that Swedenborg does say that the deepest spark of life in our souls, our innermost selves, IS the presence of God (or else we couldn't even exist) so in that sense, the parallel in the topic you brought up is even stronger.
Swedenborg talked about the idea of heavenly inflow, or influx (depending on which translation you read!). I think the episode "The Infinite in You" talks about this in detail - check it out and see if it's useful! Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/8KPZKkrijxo/v-deo.html
I came to this video because we’re interested in how alters, being dissociated consciousness’s capable of operating separately and independently simultaneously as the rest, is viewed in terms of soul. This sort of solidifies out view that our soul is actually similar to a spiritual community, the parts have been able to differentiate into one collective but individual consciousness’s with differing personalities, so I assume we’ll manifest as akin to a community or city in heaven. We have forms, like we see ourselves as we are in our innerworld, we have relationships ect. I think we are similar in soul to how heaven is described as being in the form of a body with different Angel communities representing different body parts, only for us our soul body also has its own sub communities with different forms inside it.
Thanks for spelling out how you understand it, PhylosophyHour. The "parts" theory makes so much sense to me, and Swedenborg does say that the human body is kind of a microcosm of heaven. May all parts in us find peace and belonging, as all inhabitants of heaven will!
@@offTheLeftEye I’m sure we will. Integration is important, as is working as a team for the benefit of all, as we’ve learned as a system that the entire group suffers if even one alter suffers, so we have to make sure everyone is taken care of. It sounds as though heaven and earth work the same way, especially when you get into the spiritual aspect of telepathic bleeding over and sharing of emotions and thoughts. Our innerworld has its own separated levels where the more traumatized alters reside, to protect the more pure ones from trauma bleed over, but even our persecutor alters need love and healing. I like Swedenborgs view that the hells are self chosen rather than punishment, because the whole truth of plurality in any sense that we’ve learned from experience necessitates healing and acceptance of even our less than godly members. Shoving them in the back only traps the negativity in the system. Lol I’m sort of on a thought train lately wondering if Swedenborg/angels spiritualize psychology, or if we’ve still got a psychology ‘world’ filter over our perception of our own system. I’m sort of thinking the latter, or that the two are one in the same spoken in different languages.
@@PhylosophyHour Yes the Swedenborg view is one of healing, and freedom of choice, as contrasted with punishment. It sounds like you have worked hard to learn from all your alters, and are able to cooperate for the good of all.
I believe that what we are is pure consciousness and what we call the soul, is a creation..like an avatar..of our consciousness..and can be recycled into many different bodies, in many different lifetimes..and like water..fits into and takes the form of the the vessel 'physical body' it enters. This avatar is what we see during a visitation of a loved one that is still in physical form. The consciousness itself..the 'I', has like thought, no form. A line of thinking.
Fascinating, Jack! I like that idea, that consciousness itself actually has no form, but can exist and experience life and things THROUGH a form. I think that resonates with the passage from this episode! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@offTheLeftEye Maybe you can give me your thoughts on something that happened to me many, many years ago...I was walking along a local road in my home town in northern England. I was a young man with young man's thoughts...anyway..something was put into my head from who knows where..I will leave that where up to you. The thought was..You are more and meant for more. Sometime later..same road, different day...I received the knowledge that reincarnation was true. You have to remember..I was not chasing anything spiritual related at that time in my life. I do know for sure now that I was being guided In my life..something i did not know at the time..guided by whom? I can only guess from what I know now..where that guidance came from. My beliefs have totally changed from the religious background of my childhood. My childhood was oppressive and choking. If a swore..I would say God forgive me..over and over again..and ghosts were to be feared..an women of doom. At an early age..I took to the road..Americans, call it being a bum..the UK..a tramp. To me..I escaped. I now realise that this was also part of my soul journey.
@@jackcumming3663 (Melissa again). I am so sorry to hear of your oppressive and choking childhood. That must have been very hard. I'm so glad you had that spiritual insight - and teachings that illuminated the very real love that exists in this world, and the larger reality that we are all part of. It sounds to me like an angel found a way to communicate some loving truths for you - since what you learned led you to a happier, more peaceful existence and outlook - is that true? I believe that good energy like that is heavenly, from an angelic spirit through God. What do you make of the whole thing?
I’d sure like to know what the truth was really like thousands of years ago, but being born thousands of years later, all we have is the ancient words of those who came many thousands of years before us and passed down by oral transmission. Being imperfect as we are, it’s not completely accurate but the ”main idea” or symbolism that Swedenborg writes about is there.
Right - we do the best we can with what we've got! But I agree, Julian, I would LOVE to know the whole story! There's so much missing after thousands of years of "whisper down the lane!"
Hi, Mimi, this is Karin! Curtis hasn't delved into the Dolores Cannon teachings. I know a little bit about them, but not enough to make a knowledgable comparison. Do you notice any similarities?
This earth that you and I live in is *a copy* , not the real World. Moses was instructed to build /make here according to the pattern he was shown in Heaven.*Exodus 25:9* , 40, Exodus 26:30, Ex 27:8 . This here is *a shadow* of the real one in heaven. *Heb 8:5* ; *Col **2:17* , Heb 9:23, Heb 10:1, Heb 11:7 Everything here on earth originates in the Spiritual World first. This here Earth is the 'shadow world'.
That's an interesting idea, @Momo Gi! I think that resonates in a bit with what Swedenborg learned about this world. The physical world is a stepping stone to larger things, and everything here is built with correspondences that have inner, spiritual meanings. Swedenborg, like many NDE survivors, believed that the spiritual world is more real and authentic than this, and that we are more fully ourselves when we get there. I imagine it like a television show that was once black and white, suddenly getting full color! Thanks for sharing your perspective with us!
Good question, Mindy Tarquini Writer-in-Residence! God knows everything, all the time, always. Which is admittedly very difficult for me personally (Melissa here) to understand! But Curtis explains things better, so you might like this episode, "God Sees the Future As Present" ua-cam.com/video/yjZFKIEYivE/v-deo.html Swedenborg learned that time and space don't really exist in heaven, only apparently exist so that we can feel a sense of autonomy and separation from things around us. Here is an episode that gives a summary of that, "Will Life Be Different When You Die?" ua-cam.com/video/u67AUEiaFE0/v-deo.html And here are two episodes that go into much more detail about time and space in the afterlife: "How to Live in Eternity Now" ua-cam.com/video/lO-Oj7exXC4/v-deo.html and "How to Travel in the Afterlife" ua-cam.com/video/I8n3anFk7d4/v-deo.html Swedenborg also believed that we do constantly interact with heaven and hell and the spiritual world, and are much more immersed in it all than we realize here. Because we are in physical bodies, we only get a sense of the larger picture, I suppose kind of like if we were wearing very narrow glasses and didn't have our full peripheral vision... that's the best way I can imagine it! This short video might be more useful, "What Are Heaven & Hell?" ua-cam.com/video/cCizOSUw6yw/v-deo.html So, those are some thoughts! What do you think, Mindy? Let me know if anything resonates! Hope you are well! Good to see you here again!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you for your kind reply, Melissa. I'm usually around just not always commenting. I have such a hard time holding onto these concepts. I may be overthinking things. I will look at these videos and let you know. Probably the difficulty holding onto the concepts is the Basement Boys not wanting me to look too hard at any one thing. There's passage in the New Testament someplace about Paul (I think it's Paul) getting annoyed with a spirit that is possessing a slave who is making her owners a ton of money by predicting the future. It says in the passage that the spirit was accurate. I'm pretty sure that's what it says, but Paul finally casts the spirit out. And I wondered about that because God knows everything, past, present, future, all at the same time. But I wondered about spirits. Do they get a glimpse? Seems to me it would be best for them to always direct to God, that any spirit doing otherwise might be suspect. I was thinking Paul cast the spirit out because no spirit has any business overtaking somebody's will, like maybe it was a metaphor of the times, that owning others was also not all right. Sorry, a lot in that response, I know. Hope you are well, also.
This reminds me of Hinduism the religion of "330 million gods and goddesses". Hindus all say that these gods and goddesses, as well as humans, are all aspects of the One God. The reason I love Swedenborg is he specified more the qualities, love and wisdom, of God and why the Lord created the universe, usefulness, as we humans are to be also. So, if anyone thinks Swedenborg is weird, poke around in the upanishads and vedas and you'll get a similar weirdness. Haha
Yes! So cool how such similar ideas pop up in religious traditions, myths, and spiritual ideas all over the world and throughout time! Seems to me to point to the same Creator at the helm of it all! And besides, the good stuff is always weird, right, Shane's Aegis? (= So glad you enjoyed this, and I love hearing about that connection! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
Hello Curtis, interesting show. It was a lot to drink in. One thought Struck me here: If your soul is such a intricate part of you, why do so many people have such a difficult time understanding their own soul? Heck, some people don't even believe they have at all soul. I mean to say, you don't have to teach a fish how to swim or a bird how to fly, but you can spend years teach a human how to have faith in his own soul There is just something about the whole idea that seems very odd to me? Thank you Curtis.
Good question and IMO I think it's because our spirit is both vessel and life combined into what we know as spirit. The life in us is from God which is infinite but our vessel that gives form is finite. So our finite vessels can only access our infinite life source "piece" by "piece". Kind of like imagine a endless movie is our life but to know that life we need to see it frame by frame. This means we can't access the movie all at once it has to be frame by frame this is why we don't fully understand our own souls. We can only experience and grow and learn because that is finite trying to understand the infinite piece by piece, instance by instance. I'm not going to pretend I understand it all, lol but this is the best I can do with what I have.
@@rickrouse7865 Thank you, Good answer. I never thought of it that way. Humans are not just spirit we are physical beings. so, we have many parts of ourselves working to balance each other out?
@@randydiluzio8269 I think ultimately we can never know ourselves completely like how God does. It's the way it has to be that's the relationship between finite and infinite. Balance is always the goal without it peace is impossible. So in our finite ways of learning we tend to feast and famine. Like one spirit wants to know more about justice which is his feast but is lacking in understanding of mercy and that is his famine, there isn't balance there. God is perfect and complete and that is a reason for us to make sure God is our teacher. God knows exactly what we need, when we need it and how much of it, he brings us perfect balance. We should listen to his voice and the stranger's voice we don't listen to.
I love this discussion! It is such a complex topic! Here's some things that spring to mind for me. Swedenborg wrote that animals are born fully themselves - their potential is already fully realized, because they are designed for physical life, and not spiritual life. They do have spirits or souls in them, and are divinely animated like we are, but they do not go on the spiritual journey humans do. They are made to live their best life right here on earth, and so are less complex. See our episode, "The Spiritual Difference Between Animals and Humans," ua-cam.com/video/rM-htkB2y8M/v-deo.html which is a passage about this. We are made for bigger things (spiritually speaking), and have more potential. It's always been interesting to me, as a dog owner and a parent, how my puppies could walk almost immediately, find food almost immediately, and were so built to survive, whereas my babies couldn't walk for close to a year, or more, and needed help with everything! I suppose some people think this is because our brains need more time to develop, but I wonder if this is also a correspondence! Like our newborn selves, our spirit is needy, and can do nothing on its own - we need nourishment (inflow of divine love and wisdom) from God to grow. And it takes a long time for us to do this. Another metaphor I like is that of running a marathon - like Rick says, we can only see a piece of the whole puzzle. And we can only work with where we are right now. We can't run the whole marathon just because we want to. We have to build strength, agility, endurance, flexibility, and this is done slowly and incrementally over a long period of time. Spiritual growth is definitely a marathon, and we are always training and improving, our whole lives! If heaven is the finish line, then we have to work to ready ourselves for that goal. Just like we wouldn't say, I want to be a marathoner and then go run 26.2 miles, we also wouldn't be spiritually ready to enter heaven without our physical lives on earth - the training facility for our spirits! So those are some thoughts. I hope that made sense! It's a very deep topic and I can't pretend I fully understand it at all! But I enjoy trying! (= You might like this episode too, about how the Divine creates and flows into our consciousness, "The Infinite in You" ua-cam.com/video/8KPZKkrijxo/v-deo.html Wishing you all well!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you friends!! That's an great point!! We were born with a certain degree of self doubt so there's a chances to grown into our souls. if we were born perfected, there would be no room to evolve. Because, unlike animals a bird can never be anything, but a bird? Cool!! I get now!! All The Best Guys.
@@offTheLeftEye Hey thanks for the reply. I just finished reading book one of 'the law of one' aka the ra material. In my opinion a lot of what's mentioned in that book closely correlates with the subjects swedenborg discussed (i've watched several videos on swedenborg now thanks to your detailed analysis). Though the vocabularly Ra uses is much different, the concepts of heaven and hell, good and evil, angels and demons etc are nearly identical throughout. Though there's no bible per se, the entire transcript is available online if you search for 'the law of one'. If you end up being fascinated by it then I'd love to hear your take on the subject.
One of the church member is Korean and she is interested in reading Swedenborg's books. Do you know where I can get the Korean translation of the books?
OK, Kou -- I found someone that has some titles in Korean. Does this woman have a preferred title she's interested in? Maybe you could email us at offthelefteye@gmail.com to continue this conversation and figure out how to get it to you......
The ones wanting to “think it over” are most likely the Buddhists in Heaven! To the Buddhist, there is no soul nor self. I find many concepts in this talk quite similar to Buddhist thought. All arises dependently, Interconnected, while nothing arises independently and of itself. It’s been a struggle for me to find harmony in these two seemingly humongously different ways of thought. Did these concepts drive DT Suzuki crazy, I dunno. Keep teaching that Arcana, Curtis!
@@jackcumming3663 yup, everybody has to make their own choice - it can't be forced! I just hope everyone finds ideas that help them find comfort and hope in life!
Why the soul without the body cant stays here on earth space?is it because it needs the body to shelter itself for stability adapting to the force of gravity. Another thing it's immortal and it can be out of shapes it like a deep blow.so if i understand if this belongs to god he made a place for us called heaven to protect us from harmful states after life.but if the soul gets lost!? The soul is a sort of air of density not adapted to be in time space alone?so god created us as what he is except that he is a completion of our derives.may be he is called master because he master the time the space and this secrets are normal to him that he wants us to be not lost and be able to live life with happiness. Without his teaching we will be suffering for an eternity and lost unhappy and with ebdless try to go to him which is true life.?😍
Hi Nathalie! We have short clip on the purpose of the physical body that you might like: "What's The Point of Having a Physical Body?" ua-cam.com/video/LXj8Q2VuPfs/v-deo.html I love what you say about God wanting to help us live life with happiness - I agree that life can be that way and should be! Thank you for sharing your perspective on all this!
There we go! All the misguided energy erased. Appreciate you, Curtis 🙌 I usually never delete my comments, but that was too cringey even for me - the cringiest guy on the internet haha.
@@offTheLeftEyeEye It was really sweet that Karin said, "I had no real reason to feel embarrassed for being in a crisis." You guys are better than most people in the world for taking it upon yourselves to give it your best effort in unpredictable situations like that. So I'm definitely down to dabble in Swedenborg as part of my explorations. This is how church should be.
@@offTheLeftEye One interpretation is that empty space is loaded with energy in the form of virtual particles. The idea is that they flash into existence, and then disappear just as quickly so as not to violate the conservation of mass and energy. It’s somewhat hard to imagine. Quantum mechanics seems to be consistent with a consciousness-only model of creation, in line with the revelations of Swedenborg!
@@urielstud absolutely. I had to read that a couple of times to even comprehend it - and all I can think is, wow! What a miracle! There just seems to be so much intelligence in the universe... I'm in awe of it. We did four episodes recently on Divine Design - have you seen them? Here's the first (the others are listed in each description under the episode) - "God Used A Specific Design to Create Heaven" ua-cam.com/video/rFBtRDPpeUs/v-deo.html Let me know what you think!
Jesus, came back to earth and was talking to a priest..If you are Jesus..show me a miracle...So Jesus got a jug of water and turned it into wine..The priest said..we do that every Sunday..but the other way around. Ok..jesus said..I will feed 5 thousand people from a basket with only a few fish and a few loaves of bread in it. The priest smiled kindly and replied...McDonald's do that every day. (Don't tell me God does not have a sense of humor..after all, he created the human race). 😉😁
I guess it depends what your definition of "angels" is, eh, Cool breeze joe? Sounds like you've had some kind of experience that made an impression on you!
Isn't it amazing how happy the News From Heaven make us? I think that's the ultimate test of their validity, that they're so GOOD.
Right on, paerarru! The best measure!
I love your work Curtis! So glad I found your channel.
I'm glad you found us, too, Glen! Thank you for your kind words!
Just pure awesomeness and humbled. That we are more than just live or die and become nothing again. That our lives live on...
I'm so looking forward to going home and continue to be ever learning and growing in God's wisdom! This was another great show, I can't start or end my day without watching your shows! It gives me comfort and joy, love and blessings 😇🙏🌺
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your thoughts with us, Pamelyn! You bring US comfort and joy! So glad we can share the same with you. Love and blessings to you too!
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Thank you most humbly😇🙏🌺
I haven’t watched one of your videos in a while (been busy), but now I’m reminded how great they (and you) are! Going to start watching regularly again.
We're so happy to have you back, hyevoltage, and glad we can be here for you when the time is right! So glad you enjoy them! Welcome home. (=
@@offTheLeftEye :) Thanks!
It is so amazing the information you present to us. I can’t believe I spent all my life not knowing the material about the soul. Many thanks and blessings to all !
We're so happy to know that this information is resonating with your heart and mind! Thank you for watching, and we're wishing many blessings to you, too!
I really enjoyed this episode. It makes all the sense to me.
Thank you.
I'm so glad to hear that, Shelly! Thanks for reaching out to let us know!
Best ever show! Very few in the established churches know or believe anything about these truths. They don't touch this subject. When will The lord allow the church, the body of Christ, be exposed to and taught this? Well then, it's up to each of us to lovingly present these truths to whomever we can. Ask The Lord to show you how to best reach the most amount of people, using your most precious gifts....
So glad this resonates with you, John! Yes, we hope these ideas circulate and help others, because they've been so useful to us! We sure hope we can be of service in spreading ideas that can make people happy and hopeful! You might like our episode, 'The Future of Religion," ua-cam.com/video/o5GgzMJOTKM/v-deo.html for some more thoughts on that! Let us know what you think!
What a great episode! I'm reminded of the visual aid Curtis used in a previous show...where the sponge absorbed the water...like the soul fills the shape of the body.
Cool image, Joy! Thanks for reminding us of that!
Oh I really needed this. Thank you! You've reminded me that we are all vessels of love and wisdom and that it's up to us to use that in ways that honour God and others.
That's a succinct and beautiful way to put it, Daffodil. Blessings to you as you live into that purpose!
Nicely said!
Thanks Curtis et,al for the great spiritual pick me up today! I enjoyed it.
So glad you enjoyed it, Mark! Thank you for your kind words! Stay healthy and happy!
This was so beautiful. Thank you for sharing! ❤️
I'm so glad to know it touched your heart, Happiness Now! Thank you for letting us know!
I just wanted to thank you a lot for all of your great content. In december 2020,i fell into a really heavy depression,flooded with thoughts of life after death. I was questioning gods existence,and was at a point where i no longer found any purpose in life,and found life meaningless. This channel really helped me a lot. Thank you!
Wow, Alper King! I'm so sorry for all that you have been going through, but I am so honored to hear we could be of use to you during this difficult time! I think most of us here at Off The Left Eye can relate to how life saving these ideas can be, you are not alone! It means so much to know that we were any help to you! I hope things are going better for you, and I am sending you thoughts of love and peace and good health!
@@offTheLeftEye Thanks. But to this day i still have my doubts too,i guess they're part of us all!
One of the other things i've been dealing with is my Christian faith,anf swedenborgs theology. The way Christians describe god confuses me,since they describe him as loving and a father figure,at the same time they say he's jealous. I personally don't care what people say about Swedenborg, or whatever he was mentally ill or not. I personally believe him,cause as some philosophers,and people who worked with mysthical things always said ,when you've spiritual experiences keep them to yourself,because you will be classified mentally ill. I think the schools should teach about Swedenborg,instead of teaching Nietzche or Campus,they really just deceive the youth to thing there doesn't exist anything outside of this spiritual world!
@@Asilentlearner43 I can relate - it has definitely been useful, to say the least, for me personally to believe in a larger spiritual world, and I am very grateful for Swedenborg! I wish everyone was interested, because I think it would make everyone so happy! But we have to find these things in our own way, I guess. Maybe someday it will be more out there.
Although I will say that I think Swedenborg's ideas have impacted the modern, mainstream world more than people realize, because he influenced so many deep thinkers! Check out "Swedenborg's Influence Game Show" ua-cam.com/video/IZ20NPJk2_Q/v-deo.html
We did an episode about why God seems so angry in the Bible, which is why Christians have such a conflicting view of God being loving and angry... check it out! "Why Is God Angry In the Bible?" ua-cam.com/video/yVb66mnefPc/v-deo.html
And yes, even angels have doubts and cycles of ups and downs! Check out "Angels have Good Days and Bad Days" ua-cam.com/video/PfTKBbXC4NU/v-deo.html
It's a long journey, isn't it! Wishing you well!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you!
"...you are forms of love and wisdom from God..." Beautiful! We should act accordingly.
Wouldn't that just change the world instantly, Celia! Let's pray for it!
@@offTheLeftEye - Let us pray - even when it seems hopeless.
@@celiajarvis3168 Yes! With God all things are possible! If we nurture the desire, God can be working on it. 💖
Great episode (yet again). The explanation around our souls and why they are eternal - that is the best explanation/description of our souls that I have ever come across by far and "Feels" very right to me. Thank you again.
Jeff, that is great! I'm so glad you got so much out of this one!
Curtis, you are amazing person
We at OTLE think so too, Jammin G! Thanks for your kind words!
I am constantly feeling fear, but OffTheLeftEye always calms whatever it is that's happening inside of me.
I'm so sorry to hear you constantly feel fear, Jonathan Ayers Ornelas - and so glad our channel can help you with that!
Have you seen these short episodes? "How to Detach from Fear," ua-cam.com/video/xQRTEb0O2_A/v-deo.html and "The Fear Eater: Why Life Isn't As Fun As It Should Be" ua-cam.com/video/rm9yRAx_qvU/v-deo.html
Maybe they will help provide some useful tools to keep the fear at bay, and bring you more peace! God Bless!
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I will definitely give them a view! Thanks so much!
I'll have to think about this too! :) I've made some notes . But this was really thought (or soul) provoking! ;)
Thank you all.
Glad you found it interesting, Tim! It's a heady topic! Reminds me a bit of this episode, where Curtis talks about infinite parts forming a whole, "The Why is Everything..." ua-cam.com/video/B9We89GJVzs/v-deo.html
@@offTheLeftEye - I shall be checking it out! :)
We'll have to think that over 😊
Definitely! 😁
Mr Curtis thanks! I've been reading the Word from the Lord Jesus Christ thru Swedenborg for the past 30 years. I met Mr Ray Silverman when he was pastoring in Pittsburgh. I also had a chance to met Pastor Eric. I don't know if you know but if you do please let them know that I'm still in the Word! Great program as always 👏🏾
That's lovely to hear, Sacred Lux60! This is Chara, not Curtis, but I know both Ray and Eric, and would love to pass on that greeting to both of them. Will they recognize you by the name of Sacred Lux60, or can I give them another name? I'm so glad you are still feeling fed by these ideas 30 years later!
@@offTheLeftEye Yes my name is Steve Blanks, I lived in Pittsburgh. Thanks for reaching out!
@@sacredlux6099 thank YOU for the same, Steve! (=
The wife loves hearing about angels and what they get up to. Everything stops when your broadcast comes on. Thank you.
I'm so glad these ideas can help bring some interest and peace to your home, Jay. Blessings to you and your wife!
I echo these words. It's what religion should have been , just loving thoughts , sharing dreams
@@bostavely204 love is the heart of everything! Glad you are enjoying it, we are so happy to have you here!
Like always, Great Job! Curtis! You do a wonderful service to the World. Thank you. Eternal gratitude.
Now, everyone: if you read or slightly familiar with the Bible, you will see that the human body is merely a ceramic or clay doll, which came alive by God breathing Himself in us. We are *only* a living being because the Creator (God, Yahweh, The Father) breathe life into us. *Gen 2:7*
The physical, human body, that we look at in the mirror, that we feed, bath, cloth, put to bed at night, is for all intentions and purposes, a garment which holds God,(the Spirit). We are the garment, the Temple, the Tent, which houses God.
We are - a lump of clay, formed from the earth by the Creator, similarly to a potter creating a ceramic pot to hold his water or food.
We are a living being, walking, talking, eating, only because God's breathe is in us.
Think of it this way: a child has an automated doll, which can walk, open it's mouth, move its eyes, and talk...but only if there's a battery in that doll. That battery is God in us. Remove the battery and the doll is motionless. When God's Spirit leaves our body we are lifeless - back to the dust we go.
Essentially, we are God....in the form of Man, all of us. *Psalm 82:6-8* ; *John 10:34-36* .
You are God. We are God. God is in us, and we are in Him. God created man (Adam) as a garment to hold God. Why? Because God is invisible. Because God wanted to Expand, and because God wanted to Experience. *God is the 2nd Man* in us.
*1 Cor 15:45-46* - God is the 2nd Adam. The 1st Adam is the natural, physical, human body, that we see, touch, feed, clean & carry.
*Philippians 2:7-8* - God emptied himself, and took the form of man (as a servant).
*John 1:1-14* - God (the Word) became flesh and dwell *in* us.
*Isaiah 42:1* I have put my Spirit *in* Him.
God and His Spirit is One. And God is also The Word. God is Man, and Man is God. God lives in the form of man (as us). We are God but we don't know it.
The story is all in Scriptures, hidding in plain sight.
The question then is, how is God in me and I don't know it? Because He, God, is sound asleep in us. It is called the sleep of death.
*Psalm 44:22-24* David is crying out: Wake up oh Father! Why are you sleeping? Arise! Do not sleep forever!
All through the Psalms, David is crying to The Father to awake, Arise from sleep!: *Psalm 7:6* ; Psalm 35:23; Psalm 74:1; Psalm 77:7; Psalm 78:65; Psalm 88:14;
God is 'dead' or 'died' in man, but not really. He is sound asleep, like death, but will rise again. That's the Resurrection spoken of in Scriptures.
*John 3* - call 'born anew', or born again. The Spiritual birth.
*Luke 23:33* God is buried in the Skull of man. Also in Matt, Mark, & *Gen **15:12* - when God feel asleep in man, which is the horror of great darkness; the darkest hour - signifies when God fell asleep in us. The great, deep, sleep of death.
Read it in the gospel of John, Hebrews, Romans, & Corinthians & Isaiah..
I love this, Momo Gi! Thank you for taking the time to write all of this. Really powerful ideas!
This idea of God being born anew in each of us - a personal, constant resurrection - really resonates with me! It sounds like Swedenborg's idea of being 'born again," what he calls regeneration - the process of spiritual growth that is ongoing and continuous in each of us, as we become closer to God (or God becomes more awake within)!
Here are some episodes that your words reminded me of, if you're interested at all!
On being reborn:
"Regeneration: How Radical Love is Born" ua-cam.com/video/UIK00Yg_rc8/v-deo.html
On God within:
"Why Does The Bible Say We Are Gods?" ua-cam.com/video/dU5awiNPX2o/v-deo.html
"The Infinite In You" ua-cam.com/video/8KPZKkrijxo/v-deo.html
On the idea of spiritual death, or sleep:
"Why Does The Bible Say People Sleep In the Grave?" ua-cam.com/video/2_ft7b5jk2M/v-deo.html or this short clip is also relevant, "What Does the Bible Mean by 'The Dead Know Nothing'?" ua-cam.com/video/tNQNrQDofGY/v-deo.html
I'd love to hear your thoughts, if you watch any of these, Momo Gi! I think you'll like them! Thanks for sharing your insights here!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you. I have watched many of your Swedenborg episodes. I will again watch the ones you sent her & comment.
Much of what Swedenborg talked about is confirmed by NEVILLE GODDARD.
Please read or listen to Neville Goddard's work for further confirmation, or clarification of Swedenborg's work.
@@momogi8519 Yes thank you! I need to listen to that! So cool to see those connections!
"We'll think that over.". That is exactly the vibe in the kingdom.
Yes! I often feel that way reading Swedenborg... but usually it's worth thinking over. What do you think?
@@offTheLeftEye Well, I think to further that statement that the vibe in heaven can even be like "we'll see about that!". That's usually how I here it.
@@djangobojangles5979 ha ha I can totally relate! So true!
Am back and ready to feed my soul
Welcome back, Luwana! May you find some nourishing ideas here!
So, tell me this is a coincidence....I've been thinking of a favorite college professor of late, who passed away some time ago, and was actually dreaming of a visitation from him. In the dream, he was full of love, peace, and mystery. A couple of days later, I listen to this wonderful excerpt.
Just FYI, I stopped believing in coincidence a long time ago, LOL.....Be Blessed!
So cool, Deena! What a great connection - I wonder if he had some influence here! So glad to hear he is doing well in the other world! Thank you for sharing that!
@@offTheLeftEye Its not out of the realm of possibility.....thank u for the episode. I just bought the 2 beautiful purple hardcovers of True Christianity as a present to myself. I can't wait to dive into them...
@@deenahome2060 Enjoy! (=
Your all swedenborg masterclass my friend lol 😂 love ya peace ☮️
Peace and love to you too, The Cube!
How did Swedenborg remember in such detail such a complex speech by the master angel? Certainly he was a genius to comprehend enough to even express it in words.
I wonder the same, Terry! He was definitely a brilliant man.
Did you ever see our episode, "Was Swedenborg Crazy?" ua-cam.com/video/K_ZP30NFYf8/v-deo.html
It's a great overview of Swedenborg's accomplishments, life, and credentials if you're curious about the man himself!
@@offTheLeftEye yes Curtis. I devoured much information about Swedenborg. The series of books by Rev George Vale Owens paints a similar picture of heaven, with lectures and auditoriums.
Loved it!
Thanks, L G! So glad to hear that!
I think that's awesome
Me too, Gary! So glad you enjoyed it!
I used to think to love a car..a house..a certain food etc, was a misplaced love. Then years later..I thought about it again..and it came to me that, as long as you feel that emotion..even for inanimate objects that can't feel nor respond to that love..it shows you have love within you..and surely it's that which is important..not the what...?
Well said, Jack! I think it's okay to enjoy and appreciate material things, so long as we don't "worship" them and prioritize material things over spiritual ones. But we can love something for the joy it brings us or others, for its use (a car is pretty useful in our modern world!), etc. So long as those loves don't distract from what really matters - loving each other and doing good! What do you think?
@@offTheLeftEye I think the word love is overused and is used too explain many other pleasant emotions. Its seems too be one emotion fits all..just as we use the word hate..one word fits all..when other emotions would do to explain how you feel. I don't like this food..I hate it..or I hate it when that happens etc ? The word becomes meaningless. Same when talking or understanding love..I love what you did..I love the taste of that food..the word becomes meaningless. You can enjoy the feelings you have for an object, the pleasure it gives, but love...??? The two opposites I use sparingly..hate, not at all. Hatred, unlike love...hurts the one who hates..and not the hated. Love is like a warm breeze..it makes everyone it touches feel good. In short..love creates..hate destroys. Don't get me wrong, I have met people I have disliked..but never hated..even those who have betrayed me..I forgive them..but they have lost my trust and friendship..and yet, I don't turn my back on them if they need help. I realised long ago that people who betray a friend..have the problem..not the one betrayed. Last..I 'love' nature..God's creation..I am a vegetarian and will not eat anything that once had a heart beat and a spirit.
@@offTheLeftEye I would like to add something about me..When asked am I a Christian..I say no. I am not a Christian..I follow my own path. A saying of mine is..There are thinkers and there are talkers..I am a thinker...though on occasions like writing..I display my thoughts for anyone to see..and comment on..agree or disagree. I do like reading of other peoples experiences and beliefs...sometimes something someone writes..gives me food for thought.
@@offTheLeftEye By the way..when you comment..who is it that is commenting on my comments or liking a comment I make. Daft question..but there you are. 😀
@@jackcumming3663 well said! "Love creates...hate destroys." That's the truth! Thanks for sharing all that!
I wonder if it's the other way around that we take our attachment to images of things here over there and back again. Then these things become timelessly epic, like a lectern.
Yes, I do think there is influence going both ways, as people keep changing and progressing in both worlds, so that's a great way to think about it! Thanks so much for watching!
Love it,yesfeels amazing to know thus,feel so good.I am part if God,and my hysband is,he is on the otherr side part with me
Hi, JM! When two people in love are separated by death, their love survives! Since we are defined by what (and who!) we love the most, your connection to your husband endures. You may find this episode interesting! It's called, "There is a Union of Minds in a Twin Flame Relationship." ua-cam.com/video/0mnbwQtcZ7M/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for reply,so compassionate.
I missed you guys I forgot about this channel
Well welcome back, fuiste tu! Hope you'll enjoy being back in touch with these ideas!
@@offTheLeftEye miss my teacher Curtis. I’m surprised the channel has not grown more after all this years. Blessings to all of you🙏
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Glad it struck you that way, Barbara!
One thing that has drawn me to Swedenborg is how what he says is so convergent with, not only so many other religions, but of the many analyses of NDE accounts over the many decades they've been analyzed. You asked us to comment on how we react to what the scholar angel says...well, it sounds like he may be saying that our souls, collectively, make up the consciousness of God, or rather parts of the consciousness of God. Is that right, or am I way off? ("...and therefore a dwelling place for God"). What's interesting about that sentiment is that it sounds very buddhist of all things, that there is only one consciousness and that the differences in us are simply the material differences between us leading us to do different things, but our consciousness is just the awareness and witnessing of all that. It's not quite the same, but it sort of feels like maybe it feeds into that a little.
I love your thoughtfulness, Phil. Thank you for sharing your thinking with us! That phrase, a "dwelling place for God" stands out to me. In Swedenborg's book, Divine Love and Wisdom, he writes that we human beings are not God but that God created us to be recipients of divine love. Vessels. Our acceptance of God's love and our willingness to use his divine wisdom to bring alive love -- through useful activity -- is the purpose of our creation. When we cooperate with God by taking actions that stem from love and wisdom, we are making use of the will and understanding he gifted us. With regard to a shared consciousness, I think it's true that our minds are unified in purpose when each of us does our part. Like the many organs of a human body working together to move it from one place to another.
@@offTheLeftEye Yes, a vessel. Clear distinction that we are not God, but are like God. Very Christian. Still, interesting comparison. Thanks for the response.
@@ppartin It is indeed an interesting comparison! And actually, there was a Zen master named D.T. Suzuki who called Swedenborg the "Buddha of the North," and wrote a whole book about the parallels between Swedenborg's concepts and Mahayana Buddhism. And I'll add that Swedenborg does say that the deepest spark of life in our souls, our innermost selves, IS the presence of God (or else we couldn't even exist) so in that sense, the parallel in the topic you brought up is even stronger.
How does the life from god come down through the atmospheres you talked about in a previous episode about the atmospheres of heaven !
Swedenborg talked about the idea of heavenly inflow, or influx (depending on which translation you read!). I think the episode "The Infinite in You" talks about this in detail - check it out and see if it's useful! Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/8KPZKkrijxo/v-deo.html
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So glad it resonated with you, Stephanie!
I came to this video because we’re interested in how alters, being dissociated consciousness’s capable of operating separately and independently simultaneously as the rest, is viewed in terms of soul. This sort of solidifies out view that our soul is actually similar to a spiritual community, the parts have been able to differentiate into one collective but individual consciousness’s with differing personalities, so I assume we’ll manifest as akin to a community or city in heaven. We have forms, like we see ourselves as we are in our innerworld, we have relationships ect. I think we are similar in soul to how heaven is described as being in the form of a body with different Angel communities representing different body parts, only for us our soul body also has its own sub communities with different forms inside it.
Thanks for spelling out how you understand it, PhylosophyHour. The "parts" theory makes so much sense to me, and Swedenborg does say that the human body is kind of a microcosm of heaven. May all parts in us find peace and belonging, as all inhabitants of heaven will!
@@offTheLeftEye I’m sure we will. Integration is important, as is working as a team for the benefit of all, as we’ve learned as a system that the entire group suffers if even one alter suffers, so we have to make sure everyone is taken care of. It sounds as though heaven and earth work the same way, especially when you get into the spiritual aspect of telepathic bleeding over and sharing of emotions and thoughts. Our innerworld has its own separated levels where the more traumatized alters reside, to protect the more pure ones from trauma bleed over, but even our persecutor alters need love and healing. I like Swedenborgs view that the hells are self chosen rather than punishment, because the whole truth of plurality in any sense that we’ve learned from experience necessitates healing and acceptance of even our less than godly members. Shoving them in the back only traps the negativity in the system. Lol I’m sort of on a thought train lately wondering if Swedenborg/angels spiritualize psychology, or if we’ve still got a psychology ‘world’ filter over our perception of our own system. I’m sort of thinking the latter, or that the two are one in the same spoken in different languages.
@@PhylosophyHour Yes the Swedenborg view is one of healing, and freedom of choice, as contrasted with punishment. It sounds like you have worked hard to learn from all your alters, and are able to cooperate for the good of all.
I believe that what we are is pure consciousness and what we call the soul, is a creation..like an avatar..of our consciousness..and can be recycled into many different bodies, in many different lifetimes..and like water..fits into and takes the form of the the vessel 'physical body' it enters. This avatar is what we see during a visitation of a loved one that is still in physical form. The consciousness itself..the 'I', has like thought, no form. A line of thinking.
Fascinating, Jack! I like that idea, that consciousness itself actually has no form, but can exist and experience life and things THROUGH a form. I think that resonates with the passage from this episode! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@offTheLeftEye Maybe you can give me your thoughts on something that happened to me many, many years ago...I was walking along a local road in my home town in northern England. I was a young man with young man's thoughts...anyway..something was put into my head from who knows where..I will leave that where up to you. The thought was..You are more and meant for more. Sometime later..same road, different day...I received the knowledge that reincarnation was true. You have to remember..I was not chasing anything spiritual related at that time in my life. I do know for sure now that I was being guided In my life..something i did not know at the time..guided by whom? I can only guess from what I know now..where that guidance came from. My beliefs have totally changed from the religious background of my childhood. My childhood was oppressive and choking. If a swore..I would say God forgive me..over and over again..and ghosts were to be feared..an women of doom. At an early age..I took to the road..Americans, call it being a bum..the UK..a tramp. To me..I escaped. I now realise that this was also part of my soul journey.
@@jackcumming3663 (Melissa again). I am so sorry to hear of your oppressive and choking childhood. That must have been very hard. I'm so glad you had that spiritual insight - and teachings that illuminated the very real love that exists in this world, and the larger reality that we are all part of.
It sounds to me like an angel found a way to communicate some loving truths for you - since what you learned led you to a happier, more peaceful existence and outlook - is that true? I believe that good energy like that is heavenly, from an angelic spirit through God. What do you make of the whole thing?
I’d sure like to know what the truth was really like thousands of years ago, but being born thousands of years later, all we have is the ancient words of those who came many thousands of years before us and passed down by oral transmission. Being imperfect as we are, it’s not completely accurate but the ”main idea” or symbolism that Swedenborg writes about is there.
Right - we do the best we can with what we've got! But I agree, Julian, I would LOVE to know the whole story! There's so much missing after thousands of years of "whisper down the lane!"
@@offTheLeftEye Beautifully said! ❤️🙂That’s why it’s so important to have faith in Jesus and God! 😃
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Thank you for watching!
Hey Curtis, what's ur opinion on Dolores cannon teachings! How do u think it differs with swedenborg's visions 💫🌟
Hi, Mimi, this is Karin! Curtis hasn't delved into the Dolores Cannon teachings. I know a little bit about them, but not enough to make a knowledgable comparison. Do you notice any similarities?
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Thanks, Alexa! Wishing you love and light and peace, as always!
So is the Afterlife like here, unfolding day to day? Do they know the future, or is that kind of knowing reserved for God?
This earth that you and I live in is *a copy* , not the real World. Moses was instructed to build /make here according to the pattern he was shown in Heaven.*Exodus 25:9* , 40, Exodus 26:30, Ex 27:8 .
This here is *a shadow* of the real one in heaven. *Heb 8:5* ; *Col **2:17* , Heb 9:23, Heb 10:1, Heb 11:7
Everything here on earth originates in the Spiritual World first.
This here Earth is the 'shadow world'.
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That's an interesting idea, @Momo Gi! I think that resonates in a bit with what Swedenborg learned about this world. The physical world is a stepping stone to larger things, and everything here is built with correspondences that have inner, spiritual meanings. Swedenborg, like many NDE survivors, believed that the spiritual world is more real and authentic than this, and that we are more fully ourselves when we get there. I imagine it like a television show that was once black and white, suddenly getting full color! Thanks for sharing your perspective with us!
Good question, Mindy Tarquini Writer-in-Residence! God knows everything, all the time, always. Which is admittedly very difficult for me personally (Melissa here) to understand! But Curtis explains things better, so you might like this episode, "God Sees the Future As Present" ua-cam.com/video/yjZFKIEYivE/v-deo.html
Swedenborg learned that time and space don't really exist in heaven, only apparently exist so that we can feel a sense of autonomy and separation from things around us. Here is an episode that gives a summary of that, "Will Life Be Different When You Die?" ua-cam.com/video/u67AUEiaFE0/v-deo.html
And here are two episodes that go into much more detail about time and space in the afterlife: "How to Live in Eternity Now" ua-cam.com/video/lO-Oj7exXC4/v-deo.html and "How to Travel in the Afterlife" ua-cam.com/video/I8n3anFk7d4/v-deo.html
Swedenborg also believed that we do constantly interact with heaven and hell and the spiritual world, and are much more immersed in it all than we realize here. Because we are in physical bodies, we only get a sense of the larger picture, I suppose kind of like if we were wearing very narrow glasses and didn't have our full peripheral vision... that's the best way I can imagine it! This short video might be more useful, "What Are Heaven & Hell?" ua-cam.com/video/cCizOSUw6yw/v-deo.html
So, those are some thoughts! What do you think, Mindy? Let me know if anything resonates! Hope you are well! Good to see you here again!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you for your kind reply, Melissa. I'm usually around just not always commenting. I have such a hard time holding onto these concepts. I may be overthinking things. I will look at these videos and let you know. Probably the difficulty holding onto the concepts is the Basement Boys not wanting me to look too hard at any one thing. There's passage in the New Testament someplace about Paul (I think it's Paul) getting annoyed with a spirit that is possessing a slave who is making her owners a ton of money by predicting the future. It says in the passage that the spirit was accurate. I'm pretty sure that's what it says, but Paul finally casts the spirit out. And I wondered about that because God knows everything, past, present, future, all at the same time. But I wondered about spirits. Do they get a glimpse? Seems to me it would be best for them to always direct to God, that any spirit doing otherwise might be suspect. I was thinking Paul cast the spirit out because no spirit has any business overtaking somebody's will, like maybe it was a metaphor of the times, that owning others was also not all right. Sorry, a lot in that response, I know. Hope you are well, also.
This reminds me of Hinduism the religion of "330 million gods and goddesses". Hindus all say that these gods and goddesses, as well as humans, are all aspects of the One God. The reason I love Swedenborg is he specified more the qualities, love and wisdom, of God and why the Lord created the universe, usefulness, as we humans are to be also. So, if anyone thinks Swedenborg is weird, poke around in the upanishads and vedas and you'll get a similar weirdness. Haha
Yes! So cool how such similar ideas pop up in religious traditions, myths, and spiritual ideas all over the world and throughout time! Seems to me to point to the same Creator at the helm of it all! And besides, the good stuff is always weird, right, Shane's Aegis? (= So glad you enjoyed this, and I love hearing about that connection! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
Hello Curtis, interesting show. It was a lot to drink in. One thought Struck me here: If your soul is such a intricate part of you, why do so many people have such a difficult time understanding their own soul? Heck, some people don't even believe they have at all soul. I mean to say, you don't have to teach a fish how to swim or a bird how to fly, but you can spend years teach a human how to have faith in his own soul There is just something about the whole idea that seems very odd to me? Thank you Curtis.
Good question and IMO I think it's because our spirit is both vessel and life combined into what we know as spirit. The life in us is from God which is infinite but our vessel that gives form is finite. So our finite vessels can only access our infinite life source "piece" by "piece". Kind of like imagine a endless movie is our life but to know that life we need to see it frame by frame. This means we can't access the movie all at once it has to be frame by frame this is why we don't fully understand our own souls. We can only experience and grow and learn because that is finite trying to understand the infinite piece by piece, instance by instance. I'm not going to pretend I understand it all, lol but this is the best I can do with what I have.
@@rickrouse7865 Thank you, Good answer. I never thought of it that way. Humans are not just spirit we are physical beings. so, we have many parts of ourselves working to balance each other out?
@@randydiluzio8269 I think ultimately we can never know ourselves completely like how God does. It's the way it has to be that's the relationship between finite and infinite.
Balance is always the goal without it peace is impossible. So in our finite ways of learning we tend to feast and famine. Like one spirit wants to know more about justice which is his feast but is lacking in understanding of mercy and that is his famine, there isn't balance there. God is perfect and complete and that is a reason for us to make sure God is our teacher. God knows exactly what we need, when we need it and how much of it, he brings us perfect balance. We should listen to his voice and the stranger's voice we don't listen to.
I love this discussion! It is such a complex topic! Here's some things that spring to mind for me. Swedenborg wrote that animals are born fully themselves - their potential is already fully realized, because they are designed for physical life, and not spiritual life. They do have spirits or souls in them, and are divinely animated like we are, but they do not go on the spiritual journey humans do. They are made to live their best life right here on earth, and so are less complex. See our episode, "The Spiritual Difference Between Animals and Humans," ua-cam.com/video/rM-htkB2y8M/v-deo.html which is a passage about this.
We are made for bigger things (spiritually speaking), and have more potential. It's always been interesting to me, as a dog owner and a parent, how my puppies could walk almost immediately, find food almost immediately, and were so built to survive, whereas my babies couldn't walk for close to a year, or more, and needed help with everything! I suppose some people think this is because our brains need more time to develop, but I wonder if this is also a correspondence! Like our newborn selves, our spirit is needy, and can do nothing on its own - we need nourishment (inflow of divine love and wisdom) from God to grow. And it takes a long time for us to do this.
Another metaphor I like is that of running a marathon - like Rick says, we can only see a piece of the whole puzzle. And we can only work with where we are right now. We can't run the whole marathon just because we want to. We have to build strength, agility, endurance, flexibility, and this is done slowly and incrementally over a long period of time. Spiritual growth is definitely a marathon, and we are always training and improving, our whole lives! If heaven is the finish line, then we have to work to ready ourselves for that goal. Just like we wouldn't say, I want to be a marathoner and then go run 26.2 miles, we also wouldn't be spiritually ready to enter heaven without our physical lives on earth - the training facility for our spirits!
So those are some thoughts. I hope that made sense! It's a very deep topic and I can't pretend I fully understand it at all! But I enjoy trying! (=
You might like this episode too, about how the Divine creates and flows into our consciousness, "The Infinite in You" ua-cam.com/video/8KPZKkrijxo/v-deo.html
Wishing you all well!
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you friends!! That's an great point!! We were born with a certain degree of self doubt so there's a chances to grown into our souls. if we were born perfected, there would be no room to evolve. Because, unlike animals a bird can never be anything, but a bird? Cool!! I get now!! All The Best Guys.
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Thanks for the love, Melys! Blessings to you!
When one has an OBE, who is it that experiences it ?I have experienced OBE's..and never thought to ask that question of myself.
I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer that, Jack, but I'll guess that it is your spirit that is on that journey! What do you think?
Any thoughts on the correlation between this and the ra material?
Not sure what you mean by ra material -- would you like to clarify?
@@offTheLeftEye Hey thanks for the reply.
I just finished reading book one of 'the law of one' aka the ra material. In my opinion a lot of what's mentioned in that book closely correlates with the subjects swedenborg discussed (i've watched several videos on swedenborg now thanks to your detailed analysis).
Though the vocabularly Ra uses is much different, the concepts of heaven and hell, good and evil, angels and demons etc are nearly identical throughout.
Though there's no bible per se, the entire transcript is available online if you search for 'the law of one'. If you end up being fascinated by it then I'd love to hear your take on the subject.
@@ThePerfectBalls sounds intriguing! Thanks for the suggestion! Always fun to explore new spiritual ideas. I'll put it on my reading list!
One of the church member is Korean and she is interested in reading Swedenborg's books. Do you know where I can get the Korean translation of the books?
Hi Kou -- I know there ARE some. Let me chase it down and I'll get back to you. ~Chara
OK, Kou -- I found someone that has some titles in Korean. Does this woman have a preferred title she's interested in? Maybe you could email us at offthelefteye@gmail.com to continue this conversation and figure out how to get it to you......
@@offTheLeftEye Thank you so much! I will send you guys the email within these few days after asking her the preferred title.
The ones wanting to “think it over” are most likely the Buddhists in Heaven! To the Buddhist, there is no soul nor self. I find many concepts in this talk quite similar to Buddhist thought. All arises dependently, Interconnected, while nothing arises independently and of itself. It’s been a struggle for me to find harmony in these two seemingly humongously different ways of thought. Did these concepts drive DT Suzuki crazy, I dunno. Keep teaching that Arcana, Curtis!
Well, it sounds like you're still engaged, Bobo, even if you're struggling and going crazy? I'm sure Curtis will keep pumping out our content!
@@offTheLeftEye You sure got that right! 🕊
A Spiritualist and an Atheist, talking in the spirit world. Spiritualist says..I told you life after death was for real. Atheist..Who died ?
Ha ha Jack, I love that!
@@offTheLeftEye no matter matter the proof..some just don't want too believe.
@@jackcumming3663 yup, everybody has to make their own choice - it can't be forced! I just hope everyone finds ideas that help them find comfort and hope in life!
Why the soul without the body cant stays here on earth space?is it because it needs the body to shelter itself for stability adapting to the force of gravity.
Another thing it's immortal and it can be out of shapes it like a deep blow.so if i understand if this belongs to god he made a place for us called heaven to protect us from harmful states after life.but if the soul gets lost!?
The soul is a sort of air of density not adapted to be in time space alone?so god created us as what he is except that he is a completion of our derives.may be he is called master because he master the time the space and this secrets are normal to him that he wants us to be not lost and be able to live life with happiness.
Without his teaching we will be suffering for an eternity and lost unhappy and with ebdless try to go to him which is true life.?😍
Hi Nathalie! We have short clip on the purpose of the physical body that you might like:
"What's The Point of Having a Physical Body?" ua-cam.com/video/LXj8Q2VuPfs/v-deo.html
I love what you say about God wanting to help us live life with happiness - I agree that life can be that way and should be! Thank you for sharing your perspective on all this!
@@offTheLeftEye thank you too for keeping your speech and teaching too at the same time.🌷
There we go! All the misguided energy erased. Appreciate you, Curtis 🙌
I usually never delete my comments, but that was too cringey even for me - the cringiest guy on the internet haha.
Glad you could filter out your own misguided energy. That is what self examination is all about. Keep listening and living what you learn, Glitch.
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It was really sweet that Karin said, "I had no real reason to feel embarrassed for being in a crisis."
You guys are better than most people in the world for taking it upon yourselves to give it your best effort in unpredictable situations like that. So I'm definitely down to dabble in Swedenborg as part of my explorations. This is how church should be.
@@glitch1336 Welcome to the dabbling. Exploring is a great way to figure things out. Welcome!
@@offTheLeftEye I support the spirit of this channel in general. A mystical curiosity should be encouraged.
@@glitch1336 It sure keeps me curious! A nice combo of "makes perfect sense" and "I never thought of that before!"
Yeah, physics says that empty space is loaded with virtual particles that drift in and out of existence...
I didn't know that! Isn't that amazing? What a fascinating, complex world, Gricylce! What do you make of it?
@@offTheLeftEye One interpretation is that empty space is loaded with energy in the form of virtual particles. The idea is that they flash into existence, and then disappear just as quickly so as not to violate the conservation of mass and energy. It’s somewhat hard to imagine. Quantum mechanics seems to be consistent with a consciousness-only model of creation, in line with the revelations of Swedenborg!
@@urielstud absolutely. I had to read that a couple of times to even comprehend it - and all I can think is, wow! What a miracle! There just seems to be so much intelligence in the universe... I'm in awe of it.
We did four episodes recently on Divine Design - have you seen them? Here's the first (the others are listed in each description under the episode) - "God Used A Specific Design to Create Heaven" ua-cam.com/video/rFBtRDPpeUs/v-deo.html
Let me know what you think!
Jesus, came back to earth and was talking to a priest..If you are Jesus..show me a miracle...So Jesus got a jug of water and turned it into wine..The priest said..we do that every Sunday..but the other way around. Ok..jesus said..I will feed 5 thousand people from a basket with only a few fish and a few loaves of bread in it. The priest smiled kindly and replied...McDonald's do that every day. (Don't tell me God does not have a sense of humor..after all, he created the human race). 😉😁
Absolutely! God DEFINITELY has a sense of humor! We are proof of that! 😂😂😂
Be aware angels are not pretty actually very strange and creepy looking :-(
I guess it depends what your definition of "angels" is, eh, Cool breeze joe? Sounds like you've had some kind of experience that made an impression on you!