My issue is my GTX-1660 likes to overheat and throttle (when gaming) under Linux. This doesn't happen under Windows. Gaming under Linux, I'll see a temp increase of +10c, pushing my temps to over 90c. In Windows, the same game never goes above 85c. This is with Wayland or Xorg. Also, for some reason, under Linux, it will throttle my GPU when it goes above 83c, but I never see throttling occurring under Windows when it goes above 83c. It seems the default fan curve with the current set of nVidia Linux drivers is way more conservative than it is under Windows. I still think this is a driver issue and it could also be an issue with my GPU since it's a GTX-1660. I do use Green with Envy to create a custom fan-curve that seems to help sometimes. I can't use Wayland because setting a custom fan curve doesn't work and I don't feel like using the nVidia control panel to set my GPU fan to a constant high RPM. It gets loud to keep it below 83c. I just wonder if it's a combination of the current nVidia drivers and my GPU being a GTX-1660? It's a shame as I want to make Linux my daily driver, but I can't since I primarily game on my machine. For all other things, Linux is great.
@@bolski6125 I don't know. I have no issues with 3070 on Linux. It's literally running at full speed for days, even weeks training AI and it like never thermal throttles. I'm going to go for 4070 soon and a new PC. Just waiting for nvidia to pull the plug and discount that b**** GPU
@@ksenchy Correct. I would expect that the latest drivers work great for the 30 and 40 series but the 10/16 series are kind of left in the dust. But as I stated, I have a GTX-1660 which I doubt much they're looking at trying to improve the efficiency of the drivers with that particular series. :(
Everytime I think about Nvidia I just remember Linus' flip off. While there's been improvements, I think you are entitled to have an optimal computing experience given the prices Nvidia deals with.
That's what I remember Nvidia for too. Unfortunately, the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX wasn't out yet and I needed a new GPU for my new build, so... And to make matters worse, Wayland worked, then didn't, and now sort of works but the screen emits seizure inducing flashes (so it may as well not work). If Nvidia would just open source ALL of their drivers, imagine how many more Linux users and developers would support them... (Even with $1600 GPUs!)
You forgot about virtualisation! The proprietary NVIDIA drivers don't support OpenGL 3D acceleration using virtio in virt-manager. But the Nouveau drivers work with 3D acceleration using virtio in virt-manager. Which is the only issue.
Really good to know- I don't have a GPU right now, but when I do, I'll keep this in mind, because I use virtio in virt-manager. Haven't looked at Looking Glass, though, that seems to fix it?
Uhm ... I use Nvidia-Open drivers with RTX A2000 and they Work great in SteamOS. On Point its Work great with RTX 20xx and newer. Old cards are difficult.
@@NetrunnerAT NVidia makes a very good move turning to "opensource official drivers" instead of the Nouveau or full proprietary driver. it's an necessary change for the driver development in ALL systems.
I went through nvidia driver hell first hand. The incredible thing is that once I moved to AMD literally every single issue I had just disappeared. My biggest issue was multi monitor setups with x11. At the time nvidia had literally no support for wayland.
@@TheLinuxEXP yes I’m glad, but VAAPI still doesn’t work. But I heard of a project trying to make that work. But it’s still going to be a while until I touch Nvidia again XD
@@roccociccone597 Considering NVDEC has been out since 2012 - thus making it over a decade old at the time or writing - I don't think it's Nvidia the one that's to blame. Nvidia deprecated VDPAU over a decade ago. Worst yet, FFMPEG, mpv and gstreamer all have had NVDEC suport for over half a decade now. This isn't on Nvidian, it's on Google, Mozilla and VLC.
@@TheLinuxEXP No they really haven't. Nvidia driver hell is real, as i just went through the exact same thing as Rocco, your stuck on X11 on multi monitor and forget about VRR. Oh you want to use X11 on a multi monitor setup, even with force composition pipeline you still get screen tearing thanks to flip to sync, Nvidia is a nightmare. Oh and idk about 6 years ago with Nvidia you were still dealing with having to use nomodeset to even boot the damn thing.
Nvidia on Linux has gotten a long way in recent years. Proper Wayland support is a great thing. A big leg up that AMD and Intel have is the hassle free nature of running them. Getting those proprietary Nvidia drivers installed can be a pain. Luckily some distros (namely Pop) make this painless. I'm hoping Nvidia's GPUs will work hassle free, out of the box one day. An Nvidia RADV equivalent would be a dream and a benefit for everyone.
Nvidia Controlcenter on Linux is just a mess. It often doesn't save your config because the permissions are set wrong, and often it doesn't load the config, because the Desktop Environment just overwrites it and you have to disable this manually.
I have been using Nvidia GPUs in Linux since 2008 at least... And it just worked. But before the distros packaged the non free drivers it was a pain. Now it is so much easier, completely trivial, and the performance / feature set is close to Windows driver.
Just a few months ago Wayland was a huge problem on a mobile NVIDIA GPU for me. The biggest thing was flickering of elements in XWayland (As far as I could find, this was entirely an NVIDIA driver problem.) Between moving to a laptop that has NVIDIA Optimus instead of just the NVIDIA GPU and the software updates since then, everything is working basically flawlessly now. That said, I don't know how much of that is because of things going through the Intel GPU thanks to Optimus, but I'm pretty happy to not switch to fully-discrete mode to test at the moment.
Desktop here, RTX3060ti, nvidia proprietary drivers, Fedora, also had flickering on XWayland apps on Wayland just a few months ago After that I swapped to X11 (on Ubuntu) and I had problems with Hardware Accelerated apps like Chrome (dragging around the window would introduce tearing to the whole desktop, videos had tearing, etc), which forced me to disable HW Accel, heavily reducing the performance of the app but at least making it more stable. I ended up going to Windows unfortunately to have both stability and performance... Haven't tried Fedora 37 yet so I might give it another go, but I feel like it's still a nightmare to work with NVidia and Linux, I never had such issues with my old AMD card
XWayland flickering/jittering with NVIDIA is definitely still a problem. From what I understand, it's a very fundamental issue with how GPU synchronization is handled (NVIDIA does it differently than everyone else), so a fix is years off at a minimum and honestly might never happen.
@@AndRei-yc3ti I haven't noticed anything like that, but I'm also running Optimus, so Intel is handling everything but the game rendering. I can switch over to the discrete GPU as my laptop has a mux switch, but Wayland has synchronization issues on NVIDIA, and in Xorg I haven't really noticed any better FPS than with Optimus on Wayland, so I just don't do it.
@@riskytiago rtx3050ti + ryzen 5600h(hp victus 16). I'm using EndeavourOS + KDE Plasma(X11), literally 0 problems on GPU/Monitor side. Also, after I discovered I can use type-c port as HDMI, and it will give signal on external monitor in any mode, I stopped using EnvyControl/OptimusManager for the HDMI.
I encountered multiple issues with Nvidia already. Especially as graphics developer it is hands down a bad platform because you don't get reliable output from debug and validation layers to make sure your software will be cross-compatible. If Nvidia GPUs would allow open-source drivers similar to RADV which do not leave performance behind because of some proprietary firmware limitations, this would be solvable. But currently AMD gpus provide a much better experience, especially with open-source projects.
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue I had these issues while using the proprietary drivers. So that doesn't solve the issue. And since they are not open-source, there was no way for me to contribute any changes to fix it. Personally I hope the current efforts with the open-source NVK driver in Mesa will help with issues like that. It seems like it will provide reasonable performance in the future. So that might make Nvidia GPU's a valid option again.
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Well, I'm not the only developer who had issues with Nvidia GPUs on Linux because of the proprietary drivers. The point is that it's more difficult to properly debug and fix issues during software development with them and this leads to problems on user level which may not occur if you have hardware and drivers that allow developers to do their job. We have seen compatibility issues with Wayland, with X11, with some window managers and desktop environments in the past. Simply ignoring those issues with Nvidia GPUs hurts users in the end. I still know people who use Linux distributions but struggle with some configuration details caused by the enforced Nvidia setup with proprietary drivers. It's just dishonest to say there are zero issues just because you don't have them. I also wouldn't say that you don't miss out on CUDA or other features with AMD GPUs. Because I know open-source drivers are developed who try to compensate that. Accepting the reality is first part of finding a solution, not denying it. I don't think any serious developer would act like that and I really hope that once we have competitive open-source drivers for Nvidia GPUs, most users finally realize how stupid it was to favor a proprietary requirement if they could have the option to choose between both.
as someone with a Intel iGPU + NVIDIA dGPU on Xorg with no desktop environment, it's a true pain. I even had to buy a USB-C to HDMI adapter because I literally can't use both GPUs at the same time. This made me end up just not being able to use my RTX3060 AT ALL in any scenario, it just exists, but I can only use the iGPU.
@@TheLinuxEXP well from what I read, Xorg can only use one GPU and not two of them at the same time, seeing as I don't use a desktop environment, I'd have to manually setup reverse prime which didn't work for me. And even if it worked, it'd require me to reboot to fully power down the NVIDIA GPU, right? EDIT: I read through the NVIDIA Optimus page on the arch wiki quite a few times, but couldn't find anything suitable that has all the advantages at once like windows does, some require a reboot, others tank the performance or just don't allow you to use both GPUs as outputs at once
Same here. Been using KDE Neon on my desktop for over 5 years and it's been flawless. Decided to put on on my laptop with Intel igpu + Nvidia dgpu and I've still been trying to get it to even boot to anything besides a black screen or stuck at the brand logo. The couple of times I have gotten the distro to install and set everything up and install Nvidia drivers, Im back on a black screen at the next boot. So I'm still stuck on crappy windows on my laptop.
Thanks Nick. I actually switched to AMD a good while ago because I liked the idea of the FOSS drivers and the better KVM support, however, I never understood the hate against nVidia performance under Linux. Them being not cooperative with the community, sure. Their drivers are not on par with Windows either but that too goes for AMD and probably Intel now. For someone like me who just wanted to play games with his 1070FTW, everything ran fine.
I still need to use X11 on my laptop because I use NoMachine to connect to it remotely and NoMachine doesn't currently work under Wayland when the proprietary NVIDIA drivers are installed.
6:00 I believe it might be the button there to save to X-config, which you need sudo permissions to do (which you need to launch the settings from the terminal using "sudo nvidia-settings") Although I thought I had used this to enable free-sync, but it wasn't on. I just tried it, and will reboot after finishing the video to see if it sticks. Edit: at least for me the g-sync part stuck, but didn't test the specific setting mentioned
I think the issue with suspend is related to video memory getting unloaded on suspend. There is a nvreg modprobe setting to disable that. That also fixes some other issues, such as programs being black after resume or cuda breaking
The NVIDIA driver for Windows has a "custom resolution" feature, but on Linux I could not find a replacement, and xrandr does not work. As a result my 100hz monitor only runs in 60hz mode
I personally have experienced, and still experience, many issues on nvidia wayland, like a struggling discord, crashes in some games like f1 2021 and tf2 not actually launching, soo
Nvidia has been a pain for me with x11 on window managers. Had a 1080 then a 3060 and nothing but trouble, picked up a 6700xt and worked out of the box, no tearing, no issues with no waking up after sleep/hibernate, etc etc. I also had issues running sway which is wayland and still had no display from wake issues regardless of distro. The 6700xt really solved all my issues. The distros I tested the 6700xt and the 3060 with was on Void, Arch, Gentoo, Fedora and Debian unstable. Each had my configs of i3, xmonad, bspwm and for wayland sway and Hyprland (but only on arch). AMD really was the cure.
I have a 2015 GTX 960 from the Maxwell generation in my home Desktop. I have been daily driving Arch with GNOME 43.4 on Wayland for a couple of months now, since I have really started to use a Linux distro as the main Operating System in my PCs only recently, and I can report that it behaves just perfectly! GDM didn't really give me an option to use Wayland when I first installed the proprietary drivers, but with some thinkering I've been able to run GNOME on Wayland using the latest Proprietary Nvidia Drivers. Keep in mind that being an older card I can't really use the open source kernel modules so I should be in disadvantage, but again: it runs like a charm. I've been using Linux on and off for literally no serious work for the better part of 10 years now (10 years ago though I was still a child I would say, so I really just distro hopped but still enjoyed exploring new experiences), and I can fully remember the struggles on X11 in 2017-2018, where for example my desktop was not really smooth at certain times for apparently no reason since the hardware it is rocking has no business in being choppy. I can safely say that the Nvidia experience on Linux has made a huge step forward, at least for me.
Good video. One weird Nvidia thing I have in OBS is I see frames missed due to render lag at times. I plan to start playing with DR on Linux soon. I have been using it on Mac. I have had some weirdness with Nvidia at times but it has seemed smoother lately.
As soon as you turn on fractional scaling on kde wayland everything breaks but just for the scaled monitor. That is the reason im still running windows because everything would be far to small to have no scaling. On gnome it works however fractional scaling breaks XWayland windows on gnome so that isnt a option either
Thank you! I've been using NVidia cards on Linux as soon as they started supporting Linux throughout multiple builds and never had a problem that wasn't related to an outdated driver following a dist-upgrade, immediately fixed by updating. On the flipside, AMD/ATI cards have been a driver nightmare each time I had one (I stopped using them in desktop builds for myself, but found them often enough at work, especially in laptops). They may have gotten better in the last few years but I've been burned enough not to consider an AMD card for my desktop build unless I see a compelling reason.
Gotta disagree I have a 4070TI and a Samsung Odyssey G9 neo and have nothing but issues no matter what distro I try. If I use my AMD video card I have no issues at all. Issues I have are the monitor wont wake from sleep, depending on the disto it wont pick up the monitors correct resolution or refresh rate and will lock me to 60hz when it does 240hz. Just tried the new fedora and it says I have 2 monitors when I only have the 1. Just says unknown 13". Its a horrible experience. Maybe it is because the 40 series is newer. I do have a MSI laptop with hybrid intel/nvidia and I do not have issues with it with the nvidia drivers. Gotta be the newer graphics card with the drivers.
There is an exception to the need of reboot after chanigng GPU, Linux Mint just asks to log off and back on, which is much faster than a normal reboot.
My first month of using Linux was me trying to figure out why my external monitor wouldn't show up. I spent literally 30 days on this issue. I couldn't leave it alone. Turns out my laptop has an NVIDIA Optimus chip. Worst pain ever. Big thanks to the maintainers and contributors of optimus-manager.
Good what good? , by now installed a new driver, 1070 graphics card after the laptop will certainly have DPI problems, some models also can not modify the brightness. Other need to use with wayland trouble to die black screen, a bunch of problems.
Good for you - I have different first hand experience. On laptop with GTX1650Ti (HP Pavilion 15-ec1045nw), when I connect 4k Samsung TV following happens (Fedora 37, was same on PopOS): • Wayland - 4k30Hz is very stuttery and has big delays, basically unusable; 60Hz is not even detected • X11 - 4k is scratched out, has strong green tint, it's basically broken Not only that, but the input device is not found automatically - I have to select the HDMI port manually on TV side, which is then zoomed in / cropped, and so I need to select that it's PC specifically. For comparison on Windows - 4k60Hz works fine and no issues with device detection either. While that's the major annoyance I came across, it's not the only one. The drivers silently compile in the background during updates, so if this process fails or is interrupted (ie: for not waiting unknown amount of time before reboot or turning the device off after update), the drivers will be broken (and fallback to Nouveau) until next Kernel update (which luckily happens every few days on Fedora). Every now and then there's a problem with missing audio, as it stops going through HDMI port along with the video, or audio output device doesn't change automatically for some reason. During this time, an old desktop PC with AMD dGPU and same distro experienced no problems, though it wasn't ever connected to a TV - just regular old monitor. Even on Windows, I was disappointed how empty NVIDIA Control Panel is comparing to prior generation desktop card. All things considered - my current opinion is that you should consider NVIDIA card only if you specifically need their features, like DLSS, some low latency stuff, CUDA or "AI" things. Otherwise, AMD might offer better value for the money (and VRAM), assuming you won't run into driver problems.
GTX1650Ti uses Turing architecture like RTX 2000, so this device might eventually benefit from NVIDIA opening up their drivers or compatible alternatives. I bought NVIDIA variant thinking it will be better choice than Radeon one, also was on sale. Given lackluster NVIDIA Control Panel on Windows and poor experience on Linux - I regret this choice. And so I am looking for laptop with AMD dGPU exclusively, which gives next to no choice.
Just to let you know: > The drivers silently compile in the background during updates... That's a Fedora(/dnf?)-specific issue with how they handle AKMOD. DKMS compilation on Arch doesn't have this problem, pacman doesn't exit until everything related to the update is finished completely. I can't speak for other package managers like apt or others as I don't have adequate experience there.
The only real issue I face right now is suspend. On X11 it corrupts the textures, and in Wayland it freezes the entire computer. Other than, it works fine.
Currently battling Star Citizen on linux, it seems to swallow all the available vram and crash sometimes (often) and now I'm researching how to solve this
Nice video. I use a fairly old laptop with a Quadro GPU, on a DE running X11, so I'm not completely sold on the idea of using NVDIA instead of nouveau, but it's good to hear that in more modern systems it's better than it used to be. Completely off-topic question: would you mind sharing the model of that LG monitor shown in 12:46? I've been looking for an ultra-wide for some time now. Is it FHD, and if so how good is the display quality?
I agree. Just a couple years ago, I clearly remember using a tiling manager and having GLARING tears while watching UA-cam. Some other problems were Nvidia's stupid suspend bug and power usage. Now, on Wayland and all it's glory, I get perfect frames always. Also suspend problem has a workaround using Nvidia's systemctl service file. So yeah, now it's 👍.
my journey with NVIDIA on Linux mainly ended in frustration. I wanted to try sway, NVIDIA GPUs aren't supported. my laptop had a dedicated NVIDIA gpu and integrated graphics, that was a nightmare to set up, probably took around 4-5 hours to get Wayland working before I realized i needed to install everything in a specific order, install Vulkan drivers for both, and then still get issues, especially with transparency and blurring, but only when the NVIDIA GPU was being used. as soon as I got an AMD GPU, fixing these issues was three steps. Install drivers, disable nvidia's, reboot. Never had a problem since. I will be avoiding NVIDIA GPUs until they can be used without headaches.
I bought an Nvidia GPU in 2015 and have been using it with various flavors of Mint ever since. In all that time, I don't think that I've ever had an Nvidia problem. I've had a couple of Mint problems though. Mint can be a little slow when it comes to making the latest drivers available and pushing driver updates through the update manager.
Been using Nvidia GPUs since 2013 on Linux to work, I'm a 3D modeler. Never had a single issue once installation was done, and then again that was relatively easy. Render speeds were always amazing on Linux when compared to Windows, and because I use Cycles which is a ray-traced based renderer, AMD could never compete on performance for the same price, so was never an option for me. Granted, I keep away from the bleeding edge, most often using Ubuntu LTS versions or a flavor of it. I don't tinker with my OS much, I just use it as a base to do other stuff on.
I suffered the hell that is nvidia optimus laptop on linux for a few years, then settled on the solution of passing through the GPU to a windows VM and playing games in a VM using Looking Glass and a hdmi dummy plug.
0:35 I did experience one major issue with current NVIDIA drivers, and that is, the VR headset output support is just dead on my GTX 980 and Oculus Rift CV1 with the version 530 drivers. No response no matter what module parameters you set. The HMD's video connection to the GPU just doesn't register. Downgrade to the 470 drivers and it's alive. There's also the Valve VR compositor bug that just makes things unplayable anyway, and that's bug been sitting and only getting worse for years, so... PCI passthrough KVM Windows is the way I've been using that headset for now. The NVIDIA drivers also completely faceplant at direct KMS output for things like RetroArch (if you want to use neither X11 or Wayland, and just want your media center or game hub app to completely and exclusively control every part of the display and input pipeline directly for the best possible frame pacing and input latency) If you know where to look, you'll still find rough spots that the AMD, Intel and even Nouveau drivers just don't have. And hopefully, with the open Nvidia drivers and projects like deko3d expanding the understanding of older NVIDIA cards too, the community will be able to make up for the proprietary driver's remaining deficiencies with time. The main issue the NVIDIA proprietary drivers have always had is that they verify the specific context under which access to any GPU features have been requested, and reject unknown contexts. This means the driver breaks trying to do literally anything NVIDIA didn't specifically approve it to do, and it takes a really long time for them to fix what's actually just crappy driver hardcoding and context checks that serve no purpose other than making it impossible to run the drivers unless it's under the specific scenarios NVIDIA bothered to test for! It's just that all of the more extensive issues that NVIDIA drivers used to be known have been since fixed, and the proprietary drivers are indeed not bad at all anymore. But I will give them shit for continuing to heavily hardcode and artificially restrict feature support in their drivers to this day. X11 is still the massive botch job that it is, though, so since NVIDIA properly supports Wayland now with XWayland-accelerated apps, I cannot recommend it enough. The performance of my Intel and NVIDIA hardware is significantly better, and the experience has only gotten more consistent, with general feature parity, compatibility and stability only improving over time. Bonus fact: XWayland is actually faster than X11 a lot of the time, since it doesn't go through the full Xorg pipeline to get the job one, and the Wayland protocol offers much more direct and efficient access to modern display hardware than X11 could ever do.
I actually ran into the exactly opposite problem many people are having. I had an RX 570 in my PC for the longest time. A few years back I put windows on the machine for remote work (covid) and no issues. After leaving that job it didn't seem to matter what distro I tried I would get a black screen and required a hard lock up. Even after the live sessions magically worked. But as soon as anything was installed to hard drive it bricked at boot. Switched to a GTX 1080 ti and never had any issues on that level beyond a couple blinking textures in Cyberpunk after a driver update which was later fixed. It has worked so well I don't plan on changing anything till my 1080ti dies completely.
I have definitely had issues in the last six months with Ubuntu updates making my system unable to boot. I have always been able to figure it out, but it took time.
So I have this prebuilt I bought during holiday sales in 2022 just to play games on. I do all my work on Linux (and the Mac provided by my employer). It came with an intel i5-12600k and an Nvidia RTX 3070, I hate using windows so planned to swap the operating system in the future. I attempted to update the prebuilt's BIOS, which is a big nono and killed my WIndows install. No big, only had Steam games on it, so I wiped the drive and put Debian Stable on it. Using the wikis to install everything, I am able to play all my Steam and Lutris games using the RTX 3070. I purchased an Intel Arc A770 from "the evil retailer" and have until the end of Jan to return it. I may just keep the 3070 in there and get my money back.
On X11 I always had tearing on any game. Even with gsync on. I enabled it on all my monitors. I switched to Wayland and never get tearing unless I turn off freesync on my monitors.
I have never, ever had an issue with Nvidia cards in Linux. Not once, and that includes my 2022 laptop with Ryzen 6800H and RTX 3070 Ti, running Arch of all things. Installed Optimus-Manager, wrote a switching script to bind to an unused key and I could jump to the 3070 Ti for gaming and then jump back for less power draw when I was only doing basic tasks. AMD was an entirely different story for me. I still remember rage quitting trying to get Catalyst working and just settling for the open drivers back in about 2015. I haven’t touched an AMD GPU since 2017, but apparently those open drivers are so much better now you don’t even need proprietary ones, which is nice. But I’ll be sticking with my problem free Nvidia cards going forward. Better feature support, considerably better stability, I just wouldn’t roll the dice going back to the mess that AMD was for me every single time.
05:15 Screen Tearing You can also remove it without that command line, If you check mark the "force composition pipeline", and "force full composition pipeline" inside the nvidia-settings control panel. Instead of typing the whole thing out, if I remember correctly, though it has been a while since I did that. You can see the check mark boxes when it is described for the G-SYNC enable :) Just be sure to launch the control panel I believe with SUDO nvidia-settings? :P
Have to give out a shout to PopOs - I have a Slimbook Titan as a game machine and PopOs handles multi monitor and Steam etc on the NVIDIA card perfectly - never had an issue unlike Fedora… 😊
Currently using nvidia now, and the first big issue I came across is that I can't run my monitor at its max refresh rate (160hz 4k monitor) I don't know if it's specifically an nvidia issue, but even when I force 160hz mode it still doesn't work and I get a black screen (I'm on a 3070 and it works on windows, so it has to be related to nvidia's Linux drivers) I've read that nvidia currently doesn't support DSC (display stream compression) for high refresh rates and resolutions on linux yet.
I don't think waking a display up to a black screen is just an NVIDIA issue; I had the same problem on AMD (using Plasma) for a while. It seems to no longer be an issue in Plasma 5.27 though. This was on my desktop btw. That said, I am not a fan of NVIDIA. I recently decided to switch from my beloved T440p ThinkPad as my laptop of choice to a newer E14; so I didn't have to deal with the hybrid GPU anymore. It helps that the Intel Iris Xe Graphics on the E14 are actually pretty darn good; shame about the lack of I/O (and lack of a disc drive) compared to my T440p.
I remember when i installed nvidia drivers on fedora, it just showed during turning on, that drivers dont work, switching to the devault ones. As a resutlt i worked all the time on the integrated graphics, which meant i play most of the games on windows, since it has working drovers. I literally came here to check for distro where drivers works with one installation or out of the box, and you showed fedora which does not work for me
If you want to change hybrid mode, on Ubuntu22.04 I use the command called `prime-select`, which I think is installed along with nvidia driver? Also there is the tool called `supergfxctl`.
Hello Nicolas, do you use Wine to play your games? I have used Linux (Ubuntu) in the past extensively, but as a World of Warcraft on and off player, I kept going back to Windows for gaming. Now, I use a Mac as my dev machine, but I would like to one machine for everything. Most game devs are moving away from developing for Mac's ARM64 architecture. X86_64 is still and most likely will always be the most important platform to develop games for.
My two cents, using an Nvidia 1080Ti (GTX10x series) on Fedora 38 (GNOME X11) and a freesync 144hz hidpi monitor: - You CAN and you SHOULD use the most recent drivers with the GTX 10 series - Tearing is definitely there on the desktop, but it's harder to spot - VRR/FreeSync solves the tearing issues, but the game must support it (older Source Engine games like HL2 don't work with it) and Proton needs to cooperate. - GNOME does not support VRR for full screen apps on Wayland by default, but Plasma Wayland does (and the GNOME team is working on it for GNOME Wayland as well) - Multimonitor on X11 is hilariously bad, I stopped bothering to be honest - Fractional scaling is simply not there on GNOME X11. If you want it, you need to replace the default Mutter compositor with the ubuntu-modded version (which has fractional scaling enabled, still a not-so-great experience though). So personally I just use font scaling. - ForceFullCompositionPipeline On solves the tearing issues, BUT breaks GSYNC/VRR/FreeSync support AND kills OpenGL performance (which a lot of games still use, especially native linux ones) - GameScope does not work properly with the 1080Ti, although to be fair it was developed with AMD APUs in mind. When it does work, it helps with tearing issues, but it's not worth it (start correctly about 1/20 times, the other times freezes and has to be SIGKILLed) - Updating nvidia drivers on Fedora sometimes leaves me with a broken login manager. With the latest 530 update I managed to make it working by forcing X11 on GDM as well. And... why I still use X11 and not Wayland? - A lot of nvidia tweak tools don't work on Wayland - Nvidia on Wayland has a repeating pattern of frameskipping in some games, which is annoying (some people say it's caused by a half-assed Wayland support in the drivers). Also XWayland does not help with performance - GameScope is broken on Wayland nvidia - I use MOUSE GESTURES (with a little app called Easystroke), also not supported on Wayland - Screen sharing/capture issues
**Sadly your video is wrong about saving "Force Full Composition Pipeline".** All you have to do is the button "Save to X Org Configuration" and it will stay enabled forever... :) Other than that, a really good video!
@@TheLinuxEXP It doesn't matter if we run it with sudo because Fedora's SELinux stops it from writing to that config file, it's a permission issue that's deeper than just being sudo or not. You can use the "Show Preview" and manually put the new text in your X11 conf.
I'm using KDE neon on my legion 5 pro (5800h, RTX 3070) on X11, two major problems when using an *external display* on *hybrid mode* 1. The CPU/GPU usage is constantly around 30%, the fans are always spinning. 2. If I upgrade to the latest Nvidia driver, the applications run at 1 FPS when only using the external display. You can easly search for these issue and will find many people with the same problem, took Nvidia 2 years to fix those issues. Now the problem is I have to upgrade Xorg to 21, since I'm on KDE neon I have to switch the distro (even tried Fedora 37 same issues) I spent way too much time trying to fix those problems, it's really time wasting. I'm currently running an old Nvidia version that doesn't have problem 2 and I got used to the fan noise.
Nvidia 3060 on Manjaro KDE here. I still have video issues related to multi-monitor. I have a setup where I switch monitors frequently. Originally I was using Nvidia's metamodes to switch, but that likes to crash Plasma desktop from time to time and send me running back to xrandr. The other big problem still is Valve Proton compatibility. Don't get me wrong, many games run flawlessly, but there are a number of games which run just fine on AMD cards, and simply don't start on Nvidia cards. Frequently these cases have one line fixes and a custom version of proton will fix it, which leads me to believe that it's due to driver stubbornness from Nvidia.
I use a gtx 1050ti, it's a deprecated AF card, yet I have no issues with Linux (using proprietary drivers of course) and as a gamer, I didn't really notice any real performance loss on most games. Kde sometimes gets buggy, but I think that's a KDE thing more than an NVIDIA thing, which is why I use GNOME where I have no problems. I cannot really tell you about more advanced things like ray tracing because my card is too old for that (I couldn't use it even if I was on windows, it just doesnt work on my card)
On my laptop nvidia settings after running the command just blanked for a second and switched to 2560... max resolution and tearing continued. Also in the GUI of nvidia settings it states gsync is not available nor active. I even switched to 120Hz, no changes of the availability of the gsync mode.
I had a very smooth experience using NVIDIA on Linux Mint with cinnamon. I now use KDE Plasma as my main DE but unfortunately I have alot of low fps stutter in kwin with x11. Wayland fixed the issues but its not quite ready for my use case. The good thing is that its always improving and what doesn't work for me might work for other people.
I struggeled hard at disabling the in the driver at first vsync. GUI was actually different from the config file. Everything for better latency. It is so worth it.
I've run into several issues with Nvidia, though. On my laptop with AMD integrated graphics and an RTX 3070, DaVinci Resolve will immediately crash if I try to use multiple monitors running on different GPUs (the laptop screen from amdgpu + an external display from the 3070). If I disable the integrated graphics in UEFI, the problem goes away. Maybe Xwayland issue? Not sure. The problem persisted until a month ago when I sold my laptop. On my desktop with an RTX 3090, sometimes my third display doesn't get picked up. It is going through a DP to Type-C adapter so I'm not sure if it's the Nvidia driver's fault, but I never came across this situation under Windows. Another issue comes up sometimes when I use Firefox (and Vivaldi,too, when I still use it). The monitor will flicker as soon as I move my mouse into the browser window. And it will continue to flicker until I violently shake my mouse like a mad man so that it flickers enough times I guess? Again, it's never a issue under Windows, so I'm kind of confident that it's not a faulty GPU.
Tbh one of my biggest gripes with Nvidia is the sheer size of the drivers. Downloading a 500 MB driver is _not_ a good experience on a < 500 kbps connection, jeez ! Also the latest driver wouldn't boot due to an internal misconfiguration at some point, so I reverted to the previous series.
Can't suspend properly on most Nvidia laptops since 2008 (that's the only problem I've been having constantly everywhere). Only one laptop with Nvidia I've had is now working properly, since Q2 of 2022.
undoubtedly, the employment of the proton experimental tool on steam plus the nvidia flatpaks is making the gaming experience a real wonder on Linux nowadays, should you dispose of a powerful enough device. I am playing with ultra settings games like RE Village (now not freezing anymore after the last flatpak addition) and it is an absolute delight. The level of realism is something else. Nothing to envy Windows users.
I get weird graphical bugs on KDE and x11 now and then (not that system breaking) except for occasionally getting a near complete freeze when I start sunshine for some reason. These did not happen on my old RX580. That's about it though, normal usage is fine.
It's really nice to see hybrid graphics being natively supported like this. Way back in the day, I had created a Gnome extension specifically to be able launch graphical apps via right-clicking just like it's done now, using the good old Bumblebee project
Proprietary nvidia driver does not support hybrid graphics. EnvyControl can not shut down hybrid and Nvidia dedicated to only enable integrated GPU, only if proprietary driver is installed. Not working in latest Ubuntu, Fedora, Manjaro, Endeavouros.
It's not the driver installation that's the problem, at least on openSUSE Tumbleweed. It's the Optimus thing that had me tearing my hair out. I couldn't turn off the discrete GPU to save power. On idle it consumed about twice the power as Windows consumed.
Nowadays, using Arch Linux, Nvdia drivers works like it should, using a laptop with multi monitor. I just use prime-run and voilá, the game or software now runs on Nvidia.
When I first started using Linux several months ago, everything worked great and I thought that Nvidia thing is a bit of a meme nowdays. But then few months later, bugs started to happen: On Plasma 5.26 multi monitor setup (laptop + external screen) wouldn't load plasma-shell correctly on boot. I had to unplug external screen while I loaded GUI. On 5.27 that issue was ressolved. But then on X11 my external screen refreshes only on mouse movement. Wayland works fine (for the first time for me), but there are some Wayland + Nvidia bugs: Blur doesn't work well and window decorations get messed up often (both work fine on x11). *There is to be said that I don't use default Plasma theme. But what is the point of Plasma if I can't theme it extensively. All in all: There are issues and it's a compromise. Neither x11 or Wayland are perfect and both seem to have issues with Nvidia for now P.S. Plasma 5.25 worked like a charm
I feel like people who aren't rich enough to afford newer GPUs (the majority) will be left behind if the drivers are kept proprietary. My 1060 (which is apparently notorious for having random breakages on Linux even though it's the 3rd most popular GPU on Steam) on an exotic monitor setup barely worked. Also, Resolve works fine on AMD. I use it regularly. It requires a bit of tinkering, but can be done without installing the closed source drivers. There are guides on the Fedora subreddit
The issue with full composition pipeline is, the gpu usage (and maybe cpu usage as well) thus temps get way higher than without that command in affect. And yeah, with this the performance gets worse.
I've been using Nobara Linux on my Hybrid Asus laptop, and I just click the menu and log out to change mode. I hope changing gpus would be as easy as in windows soon.
Maybe wrong place to ask, but: I’ve avoided buying a laptop that doesn’t have a 4k display built-in, since I will wanna use it 90% of the time with my dual 4k monitors, but…from what I’m seeing here about Wayland, maybe that might not be an issue if I’m using KDE w/ Wayland now? I like 175% scaling and currently primarily on Windows but want to go all Linux and want dual 4k (laptop closed) and sometimes want to move around w/ laptop (fine to use HD if going mobile).
On Intel 10 series and earlier there is 2 sleep modes: s2idle and deep. First one is kind of modern one with eats a lot of energy but second one is just OK.
By the way, a problem that I had a lot, it just didn't work, it turns out that the solution was the bios, I had to change something there and it started working
I am in the process of speccing up a new PC for linux. The spec I think I've settled on is : ryzen 7 5800x CPU, MSI MPG B550 motherboard with 64gb ram in 2 sticks, and rx 6600 8gb GPU. It will be running Fedora (Mate, Cinnamon or KDE, NOT Gnome!). In the light of this, do you think I should possibly re-spec my PC?
Linux drivers for RTX3060 has new release this March2023 but I'm still not dual booting my Legion Laptop since I still have my trauma in boot manager and stuff. I think I'll stick doing linux dev with my PC with Ryzen 5600G.
my issue with nvidia gpu drivers currently is that my GPU is 4070 ti series card so there are linux distros that dont support my gpu currently. Garuda for example i cannot get it to even boot the live usb neither proprietary or open source driver options. The linux distros i have gotten it to work made my GPU run like a potato like if i had a gtx 1650 super. Halo infinite ran at 48-64fps at 1080p medium settings, it defaults to low settings so thats not a good sign. Apex Legends via lutris/wine ran at 80-94 fps with drops at 1080p medium settings with textures set to high.
I personally had a big problem with the GT 720M, where my graphics card didn't work at all on Linux and I had to use integrated intel graphics. GTX 1060 works without any problems.
I used to run a 980ti in my PC and when I tried Ubuntu 21.10 and under X11 the card ran fine. I haven't tried Linux on my main rig after my upgrade to a 1080 TI though.
installed endeavor os with kde x11 on NVIDIA ...running space engine fine no crash, but cannot use inbuilt game video capture ... it says operation not permitted ...
My refresh rate was dogshit until I updated the Nvidia drivers using Mint's driver manager, and now it runs 144hz just fine. Is this a recent development?
There is yet no any Linux based operational system. There are distributions but not operational systems, I say this as a software engineer having tried almost every popular Linux distribution. What is an operational system? Is a system which can be used by a user without knowing its technical implementation. In Linux distros more or less you still need to use console, even when installing apps. Taking arch for example you even have to know it's name in repos otherwise you won't find it at all. In other "user friendly" distros you need to know what is flatpak what is snap in order to install some rare apps or apps that have troubles if installed from regular repos. You even need to know what repo is. You need to know what Wayland or X11 are. You have to be able to install proton just to play games and still will havw troubles because not all games are good optimized for Linux and you have to check it in the internet. Currently Linux based distros are just sanboxes for geeks. It's not popular not because it's bad but because it's not an operational system. Mac OS is operational system, Windows is, but Linux based systems are not (except for the Chrome OS). UI should speak the human language not the programming one but the technical implementation may be any under the hood. Pop OS might be the closest distro that can be considered as an operational system.
on Ubuntu running wayland on a laptop makes everything render on the intel gpu, even when there's only one external monitor plugged in to the hdmi connected to the nvidia gpu, which in turn makes everything run at like 10 fps. the "run app on dedicated gpu" context menu option doesn't do anything either. proprietary driver 525
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My issue is my GTX-1660 likes to overheat and throttle (when gaming) under Linux. This doesn't happen under Windows. Gaming under Linux, I'll see a temp increase of +10c, pushing my temps to over 90c. In Windows, the same game never goes above 85c. This is with Wayland or Xorg.
Also, for some reason, under Linux, it will throttle my GPU when it goes above 83c, but I never see throttling occurring under Windows when it goes above 83c.
It seems the default fan curve with the current set of nVidia Linux drivers is way more conservative than it is under Windows. I still think this is a driver issue and it could also be an issue with my GPU since it's a GTX-1660.
I do use Green with Envy to create a custom fan-curve that seems to help sometimes. I can't use Wayland because setting a custom fan curve doesn't work and I don't feel like using the nVidia control panel to set my GPU fan to a constant high RPM. It gets loud to keep it below 83c.
I just wonder if it's a combination of the current nVidia drivers and my GPU being a GTX-1660? It's a shame as I want to make Linux my daily driver, but I can't since I primarily game on my machine. For all other things, Linux is great.
@@bolski6125 I don't know. I have no issues with 3070 on Linux. It's literally running at full speed for days, even weeks training AI and it like never thermal throttles. I'm going to go for 4070 soon and a new PC. Just waiting for nvidia to pull the plug and discount that b**** GPU
@@ksenchy Correct. I would expect that the latest drivers work great for the 30 and 40 series but the 10/16 series are kind of left in the dust. But as I stated, I have a GTX-1660 which I doubt much they're looking at trying to improve the efficiency of the drivers with that particular series. :(
Everytime I think about Nvidia I just remember Linus' flip off.
While there's been improvements, I think you are entitled to have an optimal computing experience given the prices Nvidia deals with.
That's what I remember Nvidia for too. Unfortunately, the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX wasn't out yet and I needed a new GPU for my new build, so...
And to make matters worse, Wayland worked, then didn't, and now sort of works but the screen emits seizure inducing flashes (so it may as well not work).
If Nvidia would just open source ALL of their drivers, imagine how many more Linux users and developers would support them... (Even with $1600 GPUs!)
You forgot about virtualisation! The proprietary NVIDIA drivers don't support OpenGL 3D acceleration using virtio in virt-manager. But the Nouveau drivers work with 3D acceleration using virtio in virt-manager. Which is the only issue.
Really good to know- I don't have a GPU right now, but when I do, I'll keep this in mind, because I use virtio in virt-manager.
Haven't looked at Looking Glass, though, that seems to fix it?
@@SyRose901 I believe you have to pass through the entrie gpu/vgpu for that.
So no Minecraft?
GOD DAMMIT
Uhm ... I use Nvidia-Open drivers with RTX A2000 and they Work great in SteamOS. On Point its Work great with RTX 20xx and newer. Old cards are difficult.
@@NetrunnerAT NVidia makes a very good move turning to "opensource official drivers" instead of the Nouveau or full proprietary driver. it's an necessary change for the driver development in ALL systems.
I went through nvidia driver hell first hand. The incredible thing is that once I moved to AMD literally every single issue I had just disappeared. My biggest issue was multi monitor setups with x11. At the time nvidia had literally no support for wayland.
Things have improved a lot!
@@TheLinuxEXP yes I’m glad, but VAAPI still doesn’t work. But I heard of a project trying to make that work. But it’s still going to be a while until I touch Nvidia again XD
@@roccociccone597 vaapi works but, it brakes on suspend/wake for some reason, and I don't care (or know) enough to try and figure out why.
@@roccociccone597 Considering NVDEC has been out since 2012 - thus making it over a decade old at the time or writing - I don't think it's Nvidia the one that's to blame. Nvidia deprecated VDPAU over a decade ago. Worst yet, FFMPEG, mpv and gstreamer all have had NVDEC suport for over half a decade now. This isn't on Nvidian, it's on Google, Mozilla and VLC.
@@TheLinuxEXP No they really haven't. Nvidia driver hell is real, as i just went through the exact same thing as Rocco, your stuck on X11 on multi monitor and forget about VRR. Oh you want to use X11 on a multi monitor setup, even with force composition pipeline you still get screen tearing thanks to flip to sync, Nvidia is a nightmare. Oh and idk about 6 years ago with Nvidia you were still dealing with having to use nomodeset to even boot the damn thing.
Nvidia on Linux has gotten a long way in recent years. Proper Wayland support is a great thing. A big leg up that AMD and Intel have is the hassle free nature of running them. Getting those proprietary Nvidia drivers installed can be a pain. Luckily some distros (namely Pop) make this painless.
I'm hoping Nvidia's GPUs will work hassle free, out of the box one day. An Nvidia RADV equivalent would be a dream and a benefit for everyone.
Nvidia Controlcenter on Linux is just a mess. It often doesn't save your config because the permissions are set wrong, and often it doesn't load the config, because the Desktop Environment just overwrites it and you have to disable this manually.
The nvidia-settings application needs to be run as sudo, and after checking the box, we need to save the config file so that it persists after reboots
I have been using Nvidia GPUs in Linux since 2008 at least... And it just worked. But before the distros packaged the non free drivers it was a pain. Now it is so much easier, completely trivial, and the performance / feature set is close to Windows driver.
Just a few months ago Wayland was a huge problem on a mobile NVIDIA GPU for me. The biggest thing was flickering of elements in XWayland (As far as I could find, this was entirely an NVIDIA driver problem.) Between moving to a laptop that has NVIDIA Optimus instead of just the NVIDIA GPU and the software updates since then, everything is working basically flawlessly now. That said, I don't know how much of that is because of things going through the Intel GPU thanks to Optimus, but I'm pretty happy to not switch to fully-discrete mode to test at the moment.
Desktop here, RTX3060ti, nvidia proprietary drivers, Fedora, also had flickering on XWayland apps on Wayland just a few months ago
After that I swapped to X11 (on Ubuntu) and I had problems with Hardware Accelerated apps like Chrome (dragging around the window would introduce tearing to the whole desktop, videos had tearing, etc), which forced me to disable HW Accel, heavily reducing the performance of the app but at least making it more stable.
I ended up going to Windows unfortunately to have both stability and performance... Haven't tried Fedora 37 yet so I might give it another go, but I feel like it's still a nightmare to work with NVidia and Linux, I never had such issues with my old AMD card
Gaming still gives half the fps on Wayland with nviidia drivers
XWayland flickering/jittering with NVIDIA is definitely still a problem. From what I understand, it's a very fundamental issue with how GPU synchronization is handled (NVIDIA does it differently than everyone else), so a fix is years off at a minimum and honestly might never happen.
@@AndRei-yc3ti I haven't noticed anything like that, but I'm also running Optimus, so Intel is handling everything but the game rendering. I can switch over to the discrete GPU as my laptop has a mux switch, but Wayland has synchronization issues on NVIDIA, and in Xorg I haven't really noticed any better FPS than with Optimus on Wayland, so I just don't do it.
@@riskytiago rtx3050ti + ryzen 5600h(hp victus 16).
I'm using EndeavourOS + KDE Plasma(X11), literally 0 problems on GPU/Monitor side.
Also, after I discovered I can use type-c port as HDMI, and it will give signal on external monitor in any mode, I stopped using EnvyControl/OptimusManager for the HDMI.
I encountered multiple issues with Nvidia already. Especially as graphics developer it is hands down a bad platform because you don't get reliable output from debug and validation layers to make sure your software will be cross-compatible.
If Nvidia GPUs would allow open-source drivers similar to RADV which do not leave performance behind because of some proprietary firmware limitations, this would be solvable. But currently AMD gpus provide a much better experience, especially with open-source projects.
well then start using the proprietary driver's problem solved.🤣🤣🤣
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue I had these issues while using the proprietary drivers. So that doesn't solve the issue.
And since they are not open-source, there was no way for me to contribute any changes to fix it.
Personally I hope the current efforts with the open-source NVK driver in Mesa will help with issues like that. It seems like it will provide reasonable performance in the future. So that might make Nvidia GPU's a valid option again.
@@TheJackiMonster well you're not doing something that guy in the video is doing because he says he has no issues
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Well, I'm not the only developer who had issues with Nvidia GPUs on Linux because of the proprietary drivers. The point is that it's more difficult to properly debug and fix issues during software development with them and this leads to problems on user level which may not occur if you have hardware and drivers that allow developers to do their job.
We have seen compatibility issues with Wayland, with X11, with some window managers and desktop environments in the past. Simply ignoring those issues with Nvidia GPUs hurts users in the end. I still know people who use Linux distributions but struggle with some configuration details caused by the enforced Nvidia setup with proprietary drivers. It's just dishonest to say there are zero issues just because you don't have them.
I also wouldn't say that you don't miss out on CUDA or other features with AMD GPUs. Because I know open-source drivers are developed who try to compensate that. Accepting the reality is first part of finding a solution, not denying it.
I don't think any serious developer would act like that and I really hope that once we have competitive open-source drivers for Nvidia GPUs, most users finally realize how stupid it was to favor a proprietary requirement if they could have the option to choose between both.
as someone with a Intel iGPU + NVIDIA dGPU on Xorg with no desktop environment, it's a true pain. I even had to buy a USB-C to HDMI adapter because I literally can't use both GPUs at the same time. This made me end up just not being able to use my RTX3060 AT ALL in any scenario, it just exists, but I can only use the iGPU.
You’re probably not in hybrid graphics mode? If the only enabled GPU is the Intel or the nvidia one, the other one is inaccessible
@@TheLinuxEXP well from what I read, Xorg can only use one GPU and not two of them at the same time, seeing as I don't use a desktop environment, I'd have to manually setup reverse prime which didn't work for me.
And even if it worked, it'd require me to reboot to fully power down the NVIDIA GPU, right?
EDIT: I read through the NVIDIA Optimus page on the arch wiki quite a few times, but couldn't find anything suitable that has all the advantages at once like windows does, some require a reboot, others tank the performance or just don't allow you to use both GPUs as outputs at once
Same here. Been using KDE Neon on my desktop for over 5 years and it's been flawless. Decided to put on on my laptop with Intel igpu + Nvidia dgpu and I've still been trying to get it to even boot to anything besides a black screen or stuck at the brand logo. The couple of times I have gotten the distro to install and set everything up and install Nvidia drivers, Im back on a black screen at the next boot. So I'm still stuck on crappy windows on my laptop.
Thanks Nick.
I actually switched to AMD a good while ago because I liked the idea of the FOSS drivers and the better KVM support, however, I never understood the hate against nVidia performance under Linux.
Them being not cooperative with the community, sure. Their drivers are not on par with Windows either but that too goes for AMD and probably Intel now. For someone like me who just wanted to play games with his 1070FTW, everything ran fine.
Aaah the good old NVIDIA :)
the moment you think everything is just going to work
it doesn't :)
I still need to use X11 on my laptop because I use NoMachine to connect to it remotely and NoMachine doesn't currently work under Wayland when the proprietary NVIDIA drivers are installed.
6:00 I believe it might be the button there to save to X-config, which you need sudo permissions to do (which you need to launch the settings from the terminal using "sudo nvidia-settings")
Although I thought I had used this to enable free-sync, but it wasn't on. I just tried it, and will reboot after finishing the video to see if it sticks.
Edit: at least for me the g-sync part stuck, but didn't test the specific setting mentioned
I tried but it never worked for me
I think the issue with suspend is related to video memory getting unloaded on suspend. There is a nvreg modprobe setting to disable that. That also fixes some other issues, such as programs being black after resume or cuda breaking
The NVIDIA driver for Windows has a "custom resolution" feature, but on Linux I could not find a replacement, and xrandr does not work. As a result my 100hz monitor only runs in 60hz mode
I personally have experienced, and still experience, many issues on nvidia wayland, like a struggling discord, crashes in some games like f1 2021 and tf2 not actually launching, soo
Nvidia has been a pain for me with x11 on window managers. Had a 1080 then a 3060 and nothing but trouble, picked up a 6700xt and worked out of the box, no tearing, no issues with no waking up after sleep/hibernate, etc etc. I also had issues running sway which is wayland and still had no display from wake issues regardless of distro. The 6700xt really solved all my issues. The distros I tested the 6700xt and the 3060 with was on Void, Arch, Gentoo, Fedora and Debian unstable. Each had my configs of i3, xmonad, bspwm and for wayland sway and Hyprland (but only on arch). AMD really was the cure.
I have a 2015 GTX 960 from the Maxwell generation in my home Desktop. I have been daily driving Arch with GNOME 43.4 on Wayland for a couple of months now, since I have really started to use a Linux distro as the main Operating System in my PCs only recently, and I can report that it behaves just perfectly! GDM didn't really give me an option to use Wayland when I first installed the proprietary drivers, but with some thinkering I've been able to run GNOME on Wayland using the latest Proprietary Nvidia Drivers. Keep in mind that being an older card I can't really use the open source kernel modules so I should be in disadvantage, but again: it runs like a charm.
I've been using Linux on and off for literally no serious work for the better part of 10 years now (10 years ago though I was still a child I would say, so I really just distro hopped but still enjoyed exploring new experiences), and I can fully remember the struggles on X11 in 2017-2018, where for example my desktop was not really smooth at certain times for apparently no reason since the hardware it is rocking has no business in being choppy.
I can safely say that the Nvidia experience on Linux has made a huge step forward, at least for me.
Good video. One weird Nvidia thing I have in OBS is I see frames missed due to render lag at times.
I plan to start playing with DR on Linux soon. I have been using it on Mac.
I have had some weirdness with Nvidia at times but it has seemed smoother lately.
As soon as you turn on fractional scaling on kde wayland everything breaks but just for the scaled monitor. That is the reason im still running windows because everything would be far to small to have no scaling. On gnome it works however fractional scaling breaks XWayland windows on gnome so that isnt a option either
Thank you!
I've been using NVidia cards on Linux as soon as they started supporting Linux throughout multiple builds and never had a problem that wasn't related to an outdated driver following a dist-upgrade, immediately fixed by updating.
On the flipside, AMD/ATI cards have been a driver nightmare each time I had one (I stopped using them in desktop builds for myself, but found them often enough at work, especially in laptops).
They may have gotten better in the last few years but I've been burned enough not to consider an AMD card for my desktop build unless I see a compelling reason.
Gotta disagree I have a 4070TI and a Samsung Odyssey G9 neo and have nothing but issues no matter what distro I try. If I use my AMD video card I have no issues at all. Issues I have are the monitor wont wake from sleep, depending on the disto it wont pick up the monitors correct resolution or refresh rate and will lock me to 60hz when it does 240hz. Just tried the new fedora and it says I have 2 monitors when I only have the 1. Just says unknown 13". Its a horrible experience. Maybe it is because the 40 series is newer. I do have a MSI laptop with hybrid intel/nvidia and I do not have issues with it with the nvidia drivers. Gotta be the newer graphics card with the drivers.
There is an exception to the need of reboot after chanigng GPU, Linux Mint just asks to log off and back on, which is much faster than a normal reboot.
My first month of using Linux was me trying to figure out why my external monitor wouldn't show up.
I spent literally 30 days on this issue. I couldn't leave it alone. Turns out my laptop has an NVIDIA Optimus chip. Worst pain ever. Big thanks to the maintainers and contributors of optimus-manager.
Good what good? , by now installed a new driver, 1070 graphics card after the laptop will certainly have DPI problems, some models also can not modify the brightness. Other need to use with wayland trouble to die black screen, a bunch of problems.
New cards say they are too new and therefore buggy. old cards? Too old no longer supports and fixes bugs
Which CPU-GPU combo is best to run Linux - even optimally: all AMD, Intel-Nvidia, AMD-Nvidia, Intel--Radeon?
Good for you - I have different first hand experience. On laptop with GTX1650Ti (HP Pavilion 15-ec1045nw), when I connect 4k Samsung TV following happens (Fedora 37, was same on PopOS):
• Wayland - 4k30Hz is very stuttery and has big delays, basically unusable; 60Hz is not even detected
• X11 - 4k is scratched out, has strong green tint, it's basically broken
Not only that, but the input device is not found automatically - I have to select the HDMI port manually on TV side, which is then zoomed in / cropped, and so I need to select that it's PC specifically. For comparison on Windows - 4k60Hz works fine and no issues with device detection either.
While that's the major annoyance I came across, it's not the only one. The drivers silently compile in the background during updates, so if this process fails or is interrupted (ie: for not waiting unknown amount of time before reboot or turning the device off after update), the drivers will be broken (and fallback to Nouveau) until next Kernel update (which luckily happens every few days on Fedora). Every now and then there's a problem with missing audio, as it stops going through HDMI port along with the video, or audio output device doesn't change automatically for some reason.
During this time, an old desktop PC with AMD dGPU and same distro experienced no problems, though it wasn't ever connected to a TV - just regular old monitor.
Even on Windows, I was disappointed how empty NVIDIA Control Panel is comparing to prior generation desktop card. All things considered - my current opinion is that you should consider NVIDIA card only if you specifically need their features, like DLSS, some low latency stuff, CUDA or "AI" things. Otherwise, AMD might offer better value for the money (and VRAM), assuming you won't run into driver problems.
GTX1650Ti uses Turing architecture like RTX 2000, so this device might eventually benefit from NVIDIA opening up their drivers or compatible alternatives. I bought NVIDIA variant thinking it will be better choice than Radeon one, also was on sale. Given lackluster NVIDIA Control Panel on Windows and poor experience on Linux - I regret this choice. And so I am looking for laptop with AMD dGPU exclusively, which gives next to no choice.
Just to let you know:
> The drivers silently compile in the background during updates...
That's a Fedora(/dnf?)-specific issue with how they handle AKMOD. DKMS compilation on Arch doesn't have this problem, pacman doesn't exit until everything related to the update is finished completely. I can't speak for other package managers like apt or others as I don't have adequate experience there.
Latest Nvidia driver (530.41.03 or 530.30.02) + Wayland + >120hz refresh rate = hard lockup
It's not good.
No problems here with 100hz
The only real issue I face right now is suspend. On X11 it corrupts the textures, and in Wayland it freezes the entire computer. Other than, it works fine.
Currently battling Star Citizen on linux, it seems to swallow all the available vram and crash sometimes (often) and now I'm researching how to solve this
I want more privacy and hardening videos please!
Nice video. I use a fairly old laptop with a Quadro GPU, on a DE running X11, so I'm not completely sold on the idea of using NVDIA instead of nouveau, but it's good to hear that in more modern systems it's better than it used to be.
Completely off-topic question: would you mind sharing the model of that LG monitor shown in 12:46? I've been looking for an ultra-wide for some time now. Is it FHD, and if so how good is the display quality?
I agree. Just a couple years ago, I clearly remember using a tiling manager and having GLARING tears while watching UA-cam. Some other problems were Nvidia's stupid suspend bug and power usage. Now, on Wayland and all it's glory, I get perfect frames always. Also suspend problem has a workaround using Nvidia's systemctl service file. So yeah, now it's 👍.
my journey with NVIDIA on Linux mainly ended in frustration. I wanted to try sway, NVIDIA GPUs aren't supported. my laptop had a dedicated NVIDIA gpu and integrated graphics, that was a nightmare to set up, probably took around 4-5 hours to get Wayland working before I realized i needed to install everything in a specific order, install Vulkan drivers for both, and then still get issues, especially with transparency and blurring, but only when the NVIDIA GPU was being used. as soon as I got an AMD GPU, fixing these issues was three steps. Install drivers, disable nvidia's, reboot. Never had a problem since.
I will be avoiding NVIDIA GPUs until they can be used without headaches.
5:49 you can do it with the nvidia-settings panel, just make sure to open it as root.
I bought an Nvidia GPU in 2015 and have been using it with various flavors of Mint ever since. In all that time, I don't think that I've ever had an Nvidia problem. I've had a couple of Mint problems though. Mint can be a little slow when it comes to making the latest drivers available and pushing driver updates through the update manager.
Been using Nvidia GPUs since 2013 on Linux to work, I'm a 3D modeler. Never had a single issue once installation was done, and then again that was relatively easy. Render speeds were always amazing on Linux when compared to Windows, and because I use Cycles which is a ray-traced based renderer, AMD could never compete on performance for the same price, so was never an option for me.
Granted, I keep away from the bleeding edge, most often using Ubuntu LTS versions or a flavor of it. I don't tinker with my OS much, I just use it as a base to do other stuff on.
I suffered the hell that is nvidia optimus laptop on linux for a few years, then settled on the solution of passing through the GPU to a windows VM and playing games in a VM using Looking Glass and a hdmi dummy plug.
0:35 I did experience one major issue with current NVIDIA drivers, and that is, the VR headset output support is just dead on my GTX 980 and Oculus Rift CV1 with the version 530 drivers. No response no matter what module parameters you set. The HMD's video connection to the GPU just doesn't register. Downgrade to the 470 drivers and it's alive. There's also the Valve VR compositor bug that just makes things unplayable anyway, and that's bug been sitting and only getting worse for years, so... PCI passthrough KVM Windows is the way I've been using that headset for now.
The NVIDIA drivers also completely faceplant at direct KMS output for things like RetroArch (if you want to use neither X11 or Wayland, and just want your media center or game hub app to completely and exclusively control every part of the display and input pipeline directly for the best possible frame pacing and input latency)
If you know where to look, you'll still find rough spots that the AMD, Intel and even Nouveau drivers just don't have. And hopefully, with the open Nvidia drivers and projects like deko3d expanding the understanding of older NVIDIA cards too, the community will be able to make up for the proprietary driver's remaining deficiencies with time. The main issue the NVIDIA proprietary drivers have always had is that they verify the specific context under which access to any GPU features have been requested, and reject unknown contexts. This means the driver breaks trying to do literally anything NVIDIA didn't specifically approve it to do, and it takes a really long time for them to fix what's actually just crappy driver hardcoding and context checks that serve no purpose other than making it impossible to run the drivers unless it's under the specific scenarios NVIDIA bothered to test for!
It's just that all of the more extensive issues that NVIDIA drivers used to be known have been since fixed, and the proprietary drivers are indeed not bad at all anymore. But I will give them shit for continuing to heavily hardcode and artificially restrict feature support in their drivers to this day.
X11 is still the massive botch job that it is, though, so since NVIDIA properly supports Wayland now with XWayland-accelerated apps, I cannot recommend it enough. The performance of my Intel and NVIDIA hardware is significantly better, and the experience has only gotten more consistent, with general feature parity, compatibility and stability only improving over time.
Bonus fact: XWayland is actually faster than X11 a lot of the time, since it doesn't go through the full Xorg pipeline to get the job one, and the Wayland protocol offers much more direct and efficient access to modern display hardware than X11 could ever do.
“This Segway is neither old nor recycled.” [uses same Segway that you have for several episodes about their free report thingy]
That’s the first one I ever made for that report though
I actually ran into the exactly opposite problem many people are having. I had an RX 570 in my PC for the longest time. A few years back I put windows on the machine for remote work (covid) and no issues. After leaving that job it didn't seem to matter what distro I tried I would get a black screen and required a hard lock up. Even after the live sessions magically worked. But as soon as anything was installed to hard drive it bricked at boot. Switched to a GTX 1080 ti and never had any issues on that level beyond a couple blinking textures in Cyberpunk after a driver update which was later fixed. It has worked so well I don't plan on changing anything till my 1080ti dies completely.
I have definitely had issues in the last six months with Ubuntu updates making my system unable to boot. I have always been able to figure it out, but it took time.
So I have this prebuilt I bought during holiday sales in 2022 just to play games on. I do all my work on Linux (and the Mac provided by my employer). It came with an intel i5-12600k and an Nvidia RTX 3070, I hate using windows so planned to swap the operating system in the future. I attempted to update the prebuilt's BIOS, which is a big nono and killed my WIndows install.
No big, only had Steam games on it, so I wiped the drive and put Debian Stable on it. Using the wikis to install everything, I am able to play all my Steam and Lutris games using the RTX 3070.
I purchased an Intel Arc A770 from "the evil retailer" and have until the end of Jan to return it. I may just keep the 3070 in there and get my money back.
On X11 I always had tearing on any game. Even with gsync on. I enabled it on all my monitors. I switched to Wayland and never get tearing unless I turn off freesync on my monitors.
I have never, ever had an issue with Nvidia cards in Linux. Not once, and that includes my 2022 laptop with Ryzen 6800H and RTX 3070 Ti, running Arch of all things. Installed Optimus-Manager, wrote a switching script to bind to an unused key and I could jump to the 3070 Ti for gaming and then jump back for less power draw when I was only doing basic tasks.
AMD was an entirely different story for me. I still remember rage quitting trying to get Catalyst working and just settling for the open drivers back in about 2015. I haven’t touched an AMD GPU since 2017, but apparently those open drivers are so much better now you don’t even need proprietary ones, which is nice. But I’ll be sticking with my problem free Nvidia cards going forward. Better feature support, considerably better stability, I just wouldn’t roll the dice going back to the mess that AMD was for me every single time.
05:15 Screen Tearing
You can also remove it without that command line, If you check mark the "force composition pipeline", and "force full composition pipeline" inside the nvidia-settings control panel. Instead of typing the whole thing out, if I remember correctly, though it has been a while since I did that. You can see the check mark boxes when it is described for the G-SYNC enable :) Just be sure to launch the control panel I believe with SUDO nvidia-settings? :P
Have to give out a shout to PopOs - I have a Slimbook Titan as a game machine and PopOs handles multi monitor and Steam etc on the NVIDIA card perfectly - never had an issue unlike Fedora… 😊
Currently using nvidia now, and the first big issue I came across is that I can't run my monitor at its max refresh rate (160hz 4k monitor) I don't know if it's specifically an nvidia issue, but even when I force 160hz mode it still doesn't work and I get a black screen (I'm on a 3070 and it works on windows, so it has to be related to nvidia's Linux drivers) I've read that nvidia currently doesn't support DSC (display stream compression) for high refresh rates and resolutions on linux yet.
Any good dristro for NVIDIA old graphic card (legacy drivers)?
Debian 11 is great
I don't think waking a display up to a black screen is just an NVIDIA issue; I had the same problem on AMD (using Plasma) for a while. It seems to no longer be an issue in Plasma 5.27 though. This was on my desktop btw.
That said, I am not a fan of NVIDIA. I recently decided to switch from my beloved T440p ThinkPad as my laptop of choice to a newer E14; so I didn't have to deal with the hybrid GPU anymore. It helps that the Intel Iris Xe Graphics on the E14 are actually pretty darn good; shame about the lack of I/O (and lack of a disc drive) compared to my T440p.
As an AMD user I had that OLD idea about nvidia...
Maybe my next buy will be a nvidia card.
Nice video!
I used kmod to use the nvidia drivers with the planetccrma rt kernel. Kmod handles the kernel upgrade relinking the nvidia driver.
It seems, like the nvidia drivers also don't implement the needed extensions for the night light - still
I remember when i installed nvidia drivers on fedora, it just showed during turning on, that drivers dont work, switching to the devault ones. As a resutlt i worked all the time on the integrated graphics, which meant i play most of the games on windows, since it has working drovers. I literally came here to check for distro where drivers works with one installation or out of the box, and you showed fedora which does not work for me
If you want to change hybrid mode, on Ubuntu22.04 I use the command called `prime-select`, which I think is installed along with nvidia driver? Also there is the tool called `supergfxctl`.
Debian doesn't have a way to install nvidia drivers from the store, but DKMS should be able to update just fine isn't it?
Hello Nicolas, do you use Wine to play your games? I have used Linux (Ubuntu) in the past extensively, but as a World of Warcraft on and off player, I kept going back to Windows for gaming. Now, I use a Mac as my dev machine, but I would like to one machine for everything. Most game devs are moving away from developing for Mac's ARM64 architecture. X86_64 is still and most likely will always be the most important platform to develop games for.
Yeah, all my PC gaming is done on Linux, through Steam :)
My two cents, using an Nvidia 1080Ti (GTX10x series) on Fedora 38 (GNOME X11) and a freesync 144hz hidpi monitor:
- You CAN and you SHOULD use the most recent drivers with the GTX 10 series
- Tearing is definitely there on the desktop, but it's harder to spot
- VRR/FreeSync solves the tearing issues, but the game must support it (older Source Engine games like HL2 don't work with it) and Proton needs to cooperate.
- GNOME does not support VRR for full screen apps on Wayland by default, but Plasma Wayland does (and the GNOME team is working on it for GNOME Wayland as well)
- Multimonitor on X11 is hilariously bad, I stopped bothering to be honest
- Fractional scaling is simply not there on GNOME X11. If you want it, you need to replace the default Mutter compositor with the ubuntu-modded version (which has fractional scaling enabled, still a not-so-great experience though). So personally I just use font scaling.
- ForceFullCompositionPipeline On solves the tearing issues, BUT breaks GSYNC/VRR/FreeSync support AND kills OpenGL performance (which a lot of games still use, especially native linux ones)
- GameScope does not work properly with the 1080Ti, although to be fair it was developed with AMD APUs in mind. When it does work, it helps with tearing issues, but it's not worth it (start correctly about 1/20 times, the other times freezes and has to be SIGKILLed)
- Updating nvidia drivers on Fedora sometimes leaves me with a broken login manager. With the latest 530 update I managed to make it working by forcing X11 on GDM as well.
And... why I still use X11 and not Wayland?
- A lot of nvidia tweak tools don't work on Wayland
- Nvidia on Wayland has a repeating pattern of frameskipping in some games, which is annoying (some people say it's caused by a half-assed Wayland support in the drivers). Also XWayland does not help with performance
- GameScope is broken on Wayland nvidia
- I use MOUSE GESTURES (with a little app called Easystroke), also not supported on Wayland
- Screen sharing/capture issues
I'm running an old GTX-570 on multi-monitor without problems. Even with Steam games. (Ubuntu/Gnome)
**Sadly your video is wrong about saving "Force Full Composition Pipeline".** All you have to do is the button "Save to X Org Configuration" and it will stay enabled forever... :) Other than that, a really good video!
Never worked for me. It refuses to save anything. If I run the program with sudo, I can save but the config still isn’t applied
@@TheLinuxEXP It doesn't matter if we run it with sudo because Fedora's SELinux stops it from writing to that config file, it's a permission issue that's deeper than just being sudo or not. You can use the "Show Preview" and manually put the new text in your X11 conf.
@@TheLinuxEXP I tried to post instructions but they kept getting removed, so I hope the shorter message reaches you.
I'm using KDE neon on my legion 5 pro (5800h, RTX 3070) on X11, two major problems when using an *external display* on *hybrid mode*
1. The CPU/GPU usage is constantly around 30%, the fans are always spinning.
2. If I upgrade to the latest Nvidia driver, the applications run at 1 FPS when only using the external display.
You can easly search for these issue and will find many people with the same problem, took Nvidia 2 years to fix those issues. Now the problem is I have to upgrade Xorg to 21, since I'm on KDE neon I have to switch the distro (even tried Fedora 37 same issues) I spent way too much time trying to fix those problems, it's really time wasting. I'm currently running an old Nvidia version that doesn't have problem 2 and I got used to the fan noise.
Fyi, envy control is working fine for me on wayland! I’m using a Dell XPS 15 on Fedora 38. Not sure why yours isn’t working…
Nvidia 3060 on Manjaro KDE here. I still have video issues related to multi-monitor. I have a setup where I switch monitors frequently. Originally I was using Nvidia's metamodes to switch, but that likes to crash Plasma desktop from time to time and send me running back to xrandr.
The other big problem still is Valve Proton compatibility. Don't get me wrong, many games run flawlessly, but there are a number of games which run just fine on AMD cards, and simply don't start on Nvidia cards. Frequently these cases have one line fixes and a custom version of proton will fix it, which leads me to believe that it's due to driver stubbornness from Nvidia.
I use a gtx 1050ti, it's a deprecated AF card, yet I have no issues with Linux (using proprietary drivers of course) and as a gamer, I didn't really notice any real performance loss on most games. Kde sometimes gets buggy, but I think that's a KDE thing more than an NVIDIA thing, which is why I use GNOME where I have no problems. I cannot really tell you about more advanced things like ray tracing because my card is too old for that (I couldn't use it even if I was on windows, it just doesnt work on my card)
You have to launch nvidia-settings as root and write save it to the X configuration via the GUI, the V-SYNC will stay enabled.
On my laptop nvidia settings after running the command just blanked for a second and switched to 2560... max resolution and tearing continued. Also in the GUI of nvidia settings it states gsync is not available nor active. I even switched to 120Hz, no changes of the availability of the gsync mode.
I had a very smooth experience using NVIDIA on Linux Mint with cinnamon. I now use KDE Plasma as my main DE but unfortunately I have alot of low fps stutter in kwin with x11. Wayland fixed the issues but its not quite ready for my use case. The good thing is that its always improving and what doesn't work for me might work for other people.
I struggeled hard at disabling the in the driver at first vsync. GUI was actually different from the config file. Everything for better latency. It is so worth it.
I've run into several issues with Nvidia, though. On my laptop with AMD integrated graphics and an RTX 3070, DaVinci Resolve will immediately crash if I try to use multiple monitors running on different GPUs (the laptop screen from amdgpu + an external display from the 3070). If I disable the integrated graphics in UEFI, the problem goes away. Maybe Xwayland issue? Not sure. The problem persisted until a month ago when I sold my laptop.
On my desktop with an RTX 3090, sometimes my third display doesn't get picked up. It is going through a DP to Type-C adapter so I'm not sure if it's the Nvidia driver's fault, but I never came across this situation under Windows.
Another issue comes up sometimes when I use Firefox (and Vivaldi,too, when I still use it). The monitor will flicker as soon as I move my mouse into the browser window. And it will continue to flicker until I violently shake my mouse like a mad man so that it flickers enough times I guess? Again, it's never a issue under Windows, so I'm kind of confident that it's not a faulty GPU.
Tbh one of my biggest gripes with Nvidia is the sheer size of the drivers. Downloading a 500 MB driver is _not_ a good experience on a < 500 kbps connection, jeez !
Also the latest driver wouldn't boot due to an internal misconfiguration at some point, so I reverted to the previous series.
Can't suspend properly on most Nvidia laptops since 2008 (that's the only problem I've been having constantly everywhere). Only one laptop with Nvidia I've had is now working properly, since Q2 of 2022.
The thing is… that first part where he mentions the drivers being proprietary is itself already a huge issue for people who care about using FOSS.
undoubtedly, the employment of the proton experimental tool on steam plus the nvidia flatpaks is making the gaming experience a real wonder on Linux nowadays, should you dispose of a powerful enough device. I am playing with ultra settings games like RE Village (now not freezing anymore after the last flatpak addition) and it is an absolute delight. The level of realism is something else. Nothing to envy Windows users.
I get weird graphical bugs on KDE and x11 now and then (not that system breaking) except for occasionally getting a near complete freeze when I start sunshine for some reason. These did not happen on my old RX580. That's about it though, normal usage is fine.
It's really nice to see hybrid graphics being natively supported like this. Way back in the day, I had created a Gnome extension specifically to be able launch graphical apps via right-clicking just like it's done now, using the good old Bumblebee project
Proprietary nvidia driver does not support hybrid graphics. EnvyControl can not shut down hybrid and Nvidia dedicated to only enable integrated GPU, only if proprietary driver is installed. Not working in latest Ubuntu, Fedora, Manjaro, Endeavouros.
It's not the driver installation that's the problem, at least on openSUSE Tumbleweed. It's the Optimus thing that had me tearing my hair out. I couldn't turn off the discrete GPU to save power. On idle it consumed about twice the power as Windows consumed.
Nowadays, using Arch Linux, Nvdia drivers works like it should, using a laptop with multi monitor.
I just use prime-run and voilá, the game or software now runs on Nvidia.
When I first started using Linux several months ago, everything worked great and I thought that Nvidia thing is a bit of a meme nowdays. But then few months later, bugs started to happen:
On Plasma 5.26 multi monitor setup (laptop + external screen) wouldn't load plasma-shell correctly on boot. I had to unplug external screen while I loaded GUI.
On 5.27 that issue was ressolved. But then on X11 my external screen refreshes only on mouse movement. Wayland works fine (for the first time for me), but there are some Wayland + Nvidia bugs: Blur doesn't work well and window decorations get messed up often (both work fine on x11).
*There is to be said that I don't use default Plasma theme. But what is the point of Plasma if I can't theme it extensively.
All in all: There are issues and it's a compromise. Neither x11 or Wayland are perfect and both seem to have issues with Nvidia for now
P.S. Plasma 5.25 worked like a charm
I feel like people who aren't rich enough to afford newer GPUs (the majority) will be left behind if the drivers are kept proprietary. My 1060 (which is apparently notorious for having random breakages on Linux even though it's the 3rd most popular GPU on Steam) on an exotic monitor setup barely worked.
Also, Resolve works fine on AMD. I use it regularly. It requires a bit of tinkering, but can be done without installing the closed source drivers. There are guides on the Fedora subreddit
it still bad rep, crash almost everyday when i use GT 1030 '__') switching to RX 6600 it works without issue
The issue with full composition pipeline is, the gpu usage (and maybe cpu usage as well) thus temps get way higher than without that command in affect.
And yeah, with this the performance gets worse.
I've been using Nobara Linux on my Hybrid Asus laptop, and I just click the menu and log out to change mode. I hope changing gpus would be as easy as in windows soon.
Maybe wrong place to ask, but: I’ve avoided buying a laptop that doesn’t have a 4k display built-in, since I will wanna use it 90% of the time with my dual 4k monitors, but…from what I’m seeing here about Wayland, maybe that might not be an issue if I’m using KDE w/ Wayland now? I like 175% scaling and currently primarily on Windows but want to go all Linux and want dual 4k (laptop closed) and sometimes want to move around w/ laptop (fine to use HD if going mobile).
On Intel 10 series and earlier there is 2 sleep modes: s2idle and deep. First one is kind of modern one with eats a lot of energy but second one is just OK.
By the way, a problem that I had a lot, it just didn't work, it turns out that the solution was the bios, I had to change something there and it started working
I am in the process of speccing up a new PC for linux. The spec I think I've settled on is : ryzen 7 5800x CPU, MSI MPG B550 motherboard with 64gb ram in 2 sticks, and rx 6600 8gb GPU. It will be running Fedora (Mate, Cinnamon or KDE, NOT Gnome!). In the light of this, do you think I should possibly re-spec my PC?
Linux drivers for RTX3060 has new release this March2023 but I'm still not dual booting my Legion Laptop since I still have my trauma in boot manager and stuff. I think I'll stick doing linux dev with my PC with Ryzen 5600G.
my issue with nvidia gpu drivers currently is that my GPU is 4070 ti series card so there are linux distros that dont support my gpu currently. Garuda for example i cannot get it to even boot the live usb neither proprietary or open source driver options. The linux distros i have gotten it to work made my GPU run like a potato like if i had a gtx 1650 super.
Halo infinite ran at 48-64fps at 1080p medium settings, it defaults to low settings so thats not a good sign.
Apex Legends via lutris/wine ran at 80-94 fps with drops at 1080p medium settings with textures set to high.
Pop_OS! allows great selection of hybrid GPU, dedicated GPU, or integrated GPU.
I personally had a big problem with the GT 720M, where my graphics card didn't work at all on Linux and I had to use integrated intel graphics. GTX 1060 works without any problems.
I used to run a 980ti in my PC and when I tried Ubuntu 21.10 and under X11 the card ran fine. I haven't tried Linux on my main rig after my upgrade to a 1080 TI though.
Does Ubuntu Mate still come with the tweak tools that fix screen tearing with nvidia cards out of the box?
installed endeavor os with kde x11 on NVIDIA ...running space engine fine no crash, but cannot use inbuilt game video capture ... it says operation not permitted ...
My refresh rate was dogshit until I updated the Nvidia drivers using Mint's driver manager, and now it runs 144hz just fine. Is this a recent development?
There is yet no any Linux based operational system. There are distributions but not operational systems, I say this as a software engineer having tried almost every popular Linux distribution. What is an operational system? Is a system which can be used by a user without knowing its technical implementation. In Linux distros more or less you still need to use console, even when installing apps. Taking arch for example you even have to know it's name in repos otherwise you won't find it at all. In other "user friendly" distros you need to know what is flatpak what is snap in order to install some rare apps or apps that have troubles if installed from regular repos. You even need to know what repo is. You need to know what Wayland or X11 are. You have to be able to install proton just to play games and still will havw troubles because not all games are good optimized for Linux and you have to check it in the internet. Currently Linux based distros are just sanboxes for geeks. It's not popular not because it's bad but because it's not an operational system. Mac OS is operational system, Windows is, but Linux based systems are not (except for the Chrome OS). UI should speak the human language not the programming one but the technical implementation may be any under the hood. Pop OS might be the closest distro that can be considered as an operational system.
Standby is broken when you have external displayport monitors. Like it goes to standby then wakes up again all crooked.
on Ubuntu running wayland on a laptop makes everything render on the intel gpu, even when there's only one external monitor plugged in to the hdmi connected to the nvidia gpu, which in turn makes everything run at like 10 fps. the "run app on dedicated gpu" context menu option doesn't do anything either. proprietary driver 525
I have a laptop with gtx 1650,with amd integrated. Used X11 in Pop! Os and using fedora with wayland. And there are no issues at all.