Conversation between Hazara and Mongolian

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  • Опубліковано 7 лис 2024

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  • @realmongolia101
    @realmongolia101  3 роки тому +15

    0:00​ Intro
    0:55​ Guest introduction.
    01:58​ On history, tradition and culture of Mongolia.
    03:29​ On the current independent state of Mongolia and its political landscape and social landscape.
    09:47​ On the connection between Hazara people and Mongol people living in Mongolia.
    19:53​ Thoughts on Hazara people's general attitude towards Mongolians.
    25:39​ On ensuring cultural and political solidarity between Hazaras and Mongolians and organizations that help advocate this ideal.
    31:08​ On the oppression and persecution of Hazara people living in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
    38:37​ On the differences between Hazaras living in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.
    41:51​ On the books, movies and websites about Hazara people.
    50:00 Guest’s message to all Mongolian brothers living around the world.
    58:31 Outro

  • @mahmudmirza8732
    @mahmudmirza8732 Рік тому +10

    i am Hazara from Daykundi tribe and live in Germany ,much Love to Mongolia .I hope i will visit Mongolia as soon as possible

  • @rasa5353
    @rasa5353 3 роки тому +25

    Wow!! What a great interview, I've been following you for some time and I couldn't believe seeing this on my timeline. I'm Hazara as well and have always been proud and supported my Mongolian heritage!

    • @mahdimohammad3101
      @mahdimohammad3101 3 роки тому +5

      Yeah I agree with u I had a friend from Mongolia her name was Zoya and she had a toy called shighai that we have in our culture in Afghanistan and they play with its شیغی also I ask waht a Hamer called she said algh wich we call algha الغه so we have kinda same language

  • @monoho8204
    @monoho8204 3 роки тому +27

    I am a Hazara Turko-Mongol and I belong to the Besud tribe. Babur recorded in his journal that many of the Hazaras he seen were speaking Mogholi, which is a Mongolic dialect with significant Turkic vocabulary. Both Turks and Mongols share the same Hunnic history and both of their languages belong to the Altaic family (named after the Altai mountains of western Mongolia). Although today, we Hazaras speak Hazaragi, which is an Iranic dialect with some of our Turkic and Mongol vocabulary preserved.

    • @БаатархүүСалжуудовогт
      @БаатархүүСалжуудовогт 3 роки тому +8

      The Besud is pure mongolic tribe related to Genghiskhan linege. General Jebe noyon from Besud tribe.

    • @marcomongke3116
      @marcomongke3116 3 роки тому +2

      Idk know much but my passport says that i am Besud tribe. And i live in Mongolia. My grandfather was also half Buryat. And i am comparatively pale skinned compared to many brown skinned people here.

    • @khutugholding9557
      @khutugholding9557 6 місяців тому

      Besud is big clan in The Mongols

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 3 місяці тому

      Huns were turkic

  • @mahdimohammad3101
    @mahdimohammad3101 3 роки тому +47

    I'm hazara and I'm proud to have a Mongolian history

    • @TheMgl89
      @TheMgl89 3 роки тому +1

      U r Hazara and you r Hazara!!!

    • @elahgast
      @elahgast 3 роки тому

      @@TheMgl89 when even your own people dont accept you

    • @flowstate2421
      @flowstate2421 3 роки тому +9

      @@elahgast We Hazaras have our own great history but don't forgot our blood brothers and sisters were not looking for acceptance.

    • @elahgast
      @elahgast 3 роки тому +3

      @@flowstate2421 not looking for acceptance but nobody in the world forget there roots and hazara should neither. we forget our root thats why we dont have power today thats why we dont have alliance in hard times

    • @Greatnessamongwyatt
      @Greatnessamongwyatt 3 роки тому

      @@flowstate2421 How that relates to us kashmiris?

  • @re79za
    @re79za 2 роки тому +5

    I'm Hazara proud Turk Mongolian blood long live blue sky 🤟

  • @ib03y7
    @ib03y7 3 роки тому +2

    thank you so much for making this video

  • @mirzahoseinshafaii247
    @mirzahoseinshafaii247 3 роки тому +11

    I m hazara Mongol

  • @thelovers6197
    @thelovers6197 Рік тому +1

    Informative and good interview

  • @AliAlizada-rq1qt
    @AliAlizada-rq1qt Рік тому +5

    Hi I am a Hazara from Afghanistan and I heard that Hazara nation originally from Mongolia.
    I want to have a conversation with a Mongolian.
    Is any Mongolian available to have a conversation with me?

  • @atol2750
    @atol2750 3 роки тому +10

    Hazaras have both Mongol and Turkish background. Hazaras are indeed the most peaceful people if not cornered!

    • @jonjonboi3701
      @jonjonboi3701 3 роки тому +7

      I’m not sure about Turkish or other Turkic blood but Hazaras are a mixture of Mongolian and Persian

    • @yoloswag1357
      @yoloswag1357 3 роки тому

      @@jonjonboi3701 yeah they have no turkic blood. they're originally mongolian and mixed with afghan pashtuns/tajiks.

    • @erfanyoo433
      @erfanyoo433 Рік тому +4

      Mainly Mongolian

    • @stopworrying8850
      @stopworrying8850 5 місяців тому

      How can mangol be peaceful?

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 3 місяці тому

      ​@@erfanyoo433their language is full of turkic words

  • @khutugholding9557
    @khutugholding9557 6 місяців тому +3

    The descendants of the proto Mongols ( hunnu , xianbei, shiwei , rouran , wuheng ,hu , qiang ,kiat (jie) etc.) who have built so many khanates in Eurasia , The descendants of Medieval Mongols (kereit, naiman, merged , barlus , besud , olkhonud , chakhar , jalar , tatar, ...etc ) who have built five empires (yuan dynasty, il khanate , golden horde , chakhatai khanate and Mughal empire). the descendants of yuan dynasty remain as Mongol language speakers , different Chinese languages speakers, tibet language speakers.The descendants of Il khanate become different Persian languages speakers , the descendants of Chagatai khanate become different Turkish languages speakers , the descendants of Golden Horde become different Turkish language speakers and Slavic languages speakers. Modern Hebrew language was reborn after lost 2000 years. one day all descendants of the Mongols around the world might revive the Mongol language again to be reunited to make contribution to development of human dignity and human rights. Therefore , The Mongols are pluralism at present world. Monkh Tenger fated born Khamug Mongols are the children of the Monkh Tenger.

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 3 місяці тому

      Golden horde has never been Mongol...they were all Turks and spoke Tatar turkic...lol

  • @Uyiiouuoiuiiuyi
    @Uyiiouuoiuiiuyi 3 роки тому +11

    Mongolian need increase it population
    It will be better economically

    • @turuus5215
      @turuus5215 2 роки тому

      Sorry, it could be too late. Mongolians are largely secular or buddhist. I doubt Hazara people can speak Mongolian now.
      Also, realistically, Mongolians prefer to bond nations in the East-specifically South Korea and Japan, not to the further Central Asia.

  • @alienozdamar
    @alienozdamar 4 місяці тому +1

    There used to be Kara Tatar clans in Anatolia from 13th century until Timur's invasion of Anatolia.
    When Tamerlane defeated Ottoman Beg Bayezid, he took Kara Tatar population back to Central Asia alongside him. Some of those Kara Tatars escaped and settled in Iran, Afghanistan.
    Those Kara Tatars caused havoc in Anatolia in 13th and 14th centuries.

  • @almurabitun
    @almurabitun 3 роки тому +6

    I believe Hazara are indigenous people of Central Afghanistan.

  • @sabirahussaini5898
    @sabirahussaini5898 3 роки тому +7

    Hazaras are native of Afghanistan

  • @غلامعلیامانی-ت9خ

    سلام به شما ایا میشه خلاصه این گفتگو را به زبان فارسی دوبله کنید که نتیجه این گفتگو اخرش چی گفته تا مردم بفهمد تشکر

  • @ChinaBhaiJaan
    @ChinaBhaiJaan 3 роки тому +3

    i live in pakistan,although i never been hazara town or mariabad,but i watched so many hazara videos,some hazara look like indian,some hazara look like mongolian, most of hazara have mongolian pleats,some Hazaras look like Iranians,some Hazaras look like pakistani
    for example youtuber Kainat batool she totally look like a mongolian girl,her little brother a little bit look like a singger Uudam

  • @AntiLifeMatter
    @AntiLifeMatter Рік тому +4

    Hazaras are divided into Dai Zanggy Dai Chakhto Dai Chopan Dai kundi Dai mirksha and Dai khetai and Burlas and etc. A lot of them live in Hazaristan a big part of Afghanistan. And have between 12-20 millions population who have 15-20 percent population of Afghanistan.

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 11 місяців тому

      In mongolia we have barlas tribe and khitai/khitan

    • @DDazai4709
      @DDazai4709 9 місяців тому

      ​@@teovu5557Dai Khitai is actually related to Qara Khitai the mongol people who ruled Turkestan. Their ancestor was called Baba Khitai who was related probably to mongols.
      Besud tribe of hazara is one of the largest. Same name in mongolian, Jebe noyan famous general.
      Barlas tribe is probably from the larger tribe Mohammad khwaja, he was a general to Babur grandson of Amir Timur. Barlas is a turko-mongol tribe.
      In Ghazni there is jaghatu hazaras, this basically means chaghatai, the son of ghengis khan. These hazaras are from chagatai Khanate who migrated there.
      Sheikh Ali hazaras or Turkmen hazaras, they take their name from sheikh Ali who was a general to Amir Timur.
      Dai Choban and Dai Zangi are hazara tribes with ancestors from Illkhanate mongols.
      There was also sources that Neguderi mongols who was part of jochids golden horde army fled to Afghanistan because of the fighting between illkhanate hulegu khan and berke khan. They were known as qaraunas, Babur actually mentions hazaras and Neguderis living as different tribes but in Afghanistan. Maybe Neguderis became apart of hazara tribes.
      Many hazaras have tribe names that can be traced back to illkhanate mongols or chaghatai mongols. Many turkic and mongol groups settled in Afghanistan over time, from the time of ghengis to timur many many settled in Afghanistan and the different tribes made the hazara people.
      Babur said we spoke moghuli which is a dialect related to mongolian with turkic loawnrods. But moghuli means mongol in Persian. Sadly sometime after that we lost our language and mostly speak persian now and became Shia Muslims. This was because many mongols were also converting to Islam because of the political benefits.
      Overall hazaras today are genetically closer to Uzbeks and uyghurs, but we also have mongol part. Hazaras are 60 to 70% east asian and 30 to 40% west Asian ancestry.

  • @Jawadazizoglu
    @Jawadazizoglu Рік тому +1

    I am hazara from valley of turkman

  • @Abolfazo7
    @Abolfazo7 5 днів тому +2

    you chose the wrong person to represent hazaras 😂

  • @mohammadpanjshiri694
    @mohammadpanjshiri694 Місяць тому

    I am Tajik ethnic from Afghanistan we believe that Hazars are Mongolians
    Our ancestors told to every generation that they Hazara are Mongolian

  • @bjaygurung562
    @bjaygurung562 3 роки тому +4

    Beautiful people,they look like Gurung,Magar,Rai,Limbu,an ethnic minorities of the country NEPAL 🇳🇵

    • @IranAzadLoading
      @IranAzadLoading 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, but they are sinetic people, Hazaras are mongolic.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому +1

      Not sinitic they are tibetic

  • @БаатархүүСалжуудовогт

    I" m xalxa mongolian from Saljuud tribe.

  • @mahdimohammad3101
    @mahdimohammad3101 3 роки тому +9

    I had a friend from Mongolia her name was Zoya and she had a toy called shighai that we have in our culture in Afghanistan and they play with its شیغی also I ask waht a Hamer called she said algh wich we call algha الغه so we have kinda same language

  • @Alibamyani73
    @Alibamyani73 3 роки тому +4

    I am Hazara from Bamyan

    • @electricmachinesub
      @electricmachinesub 8 місяців тому

      Монголд ирж чадах уу, би чамд туслана

  • @amirhusseinjaghori2447
    @amirhusseinjaghori2447 3 роки тому +7

    🇦🇫❤️🇲🇳
    ✌🏼

  • @electricmachinesub
    @electricmachinesub 8 місяців тому +1

    Вам,всем Хазарейцам нужно приехать в Монголию по своей возможности, несмотря на то что, какой у тебя язык, раса, религия,история, потом мы разберёмся с вами, чем помочь вам. Наплевать на этих комментаторов из так называемых стран "тюрки" из Средней Азии, голодных нищых и неграмотных людей

  • @AsianAmericanGuy
    @AsianAmericanGuy 3 роки тому +1

    Its kinda similar like how people say native americans look like mongolians. but from my experience of having native american friends and being mongolian while living in America, to be honest i have not mistaked a native american for a mongolian i think its just rumor through the internet because they have they're own facial features and look more latino.

  • @blackcolour8997
    @blackcolour8997 2 роки тому +3

    Hazaras are legend

  • @Uyiiouuoiuiiuyi
    @Uyiiouuoiuiiuyi 3 роки тому +3

    3.5 million is not enough

  • @movie9600
    @movie9600 2 роки тому +1

    Буриад, халимагуудын тухай ийм бичлэг хийхүү?

  • @draw3659
    @draw3659 Місяць тому

    Real people of Afghanistan is Hazaras. This is a fact and Afghanistan belongs to Hazaras. Specially central Afghanistan.

  • @Uyiiouuoiuiiuyi
    @Uyiiouuoiuiiuyi 3 роки тому +3

    Hazara 25 percent Mongolian

    • @yoloswag1357
      @yoloswag1357 3 роки тому +3

      more than 25. close to 45-50% actually.

  • @AliM-jv1kb
    @AliM-jv1kb 6 місяців тому

    افرین بیشک زنده با هزاره و منگولیا❤

  • @user-be6ec3dc4t
    @user-be6ec3dc4t 2 роки тому +1

    Unfortunately since the decline of mongol empire the Mongolic people suffered a great defeat they get almost wiped out from the American continent! and we lost vast majority of the land in northern Asia like Siberia all way to Central Asia and finally Afghanistan is the most recent and if the Mongolic turanian not going to make the last stand and claim back what they lost soon or later Mongolia and countries like Korea and Japan will be next!And one of the saddest part is that we are one of the most dysfunction and Diaspora ethnic group in the world! And our enemies took a great opportunity from this weakness and expanded everywhere! If you guys want the glorious back I am ready we can start to United the Mongolian all over it’s hard but not impossible and I feel like I have the sprites of my grand grant grandfather the great changes khan so we can claim back what’s belong to us

    • @HunzaGirl
      @HunzaGirl 2 роки тому

      😂😂Mongolia is now more like a part of China not the Mongol Empire in history,they do not hate the Slavs, but hate Chinese who race looks like them ,mongol afraid of russia

    • @electricmachinesub
      @electricmachinesub 8 місяців тому

      Монголд ир, дараа нь бүх юм сайхан болно. Өөдгүй муу хүмүүсээс, тэнэг газраас явах хэрэгтэй

  • @electricmachinesub
    @electricmachinesub 8 місяців тому

    Здесь речь идёт о Хазарейцах, которым нужна помощь, а не об истории современной Монголии.
    Казахи ,вы рядом с Афганистаном и Хазарейцами, надо помогать афганским народам и хазарейцам, прежде чем писать ёрунду про совр.монголов

  • @آرهدا-ن9ن
    @آرهدا-ن9ن 3 роки тому +9

    I'm not mongol I'm hazara turkleri

    • @dadaytami2400
      @dadaytami2400 3 роки тому +1

      Then we should stop getting hazara students in Mongolia and giving them the benefits. Turkic countries should take care of you guys. And also YOU HAZARAS ARE NOT RELATED TO GENGHIS KHAN. DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT GENGHIS KHAN ANYMORE

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 3 роки тому

      From which tribe brother

    • @edwinharms6836
      @edwinharms6836 3 роки тому +3

      40% hazara have mongolian C2 genes, the rest R1n etc.

    • @Willxdiana
      @Willxdiana 3 роки тому +3

      turkic people lived in Mongolia too, all horse archers. Genghis khan recruited them

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 3 роки тому +3

      @@Willxdiana yes, most of Genghis khans army was made up of Mongolizied Turkic clans like the Naiman (Uyghur remnants) and kereids (remnants of zubu and old Turkic Gökturks) and ongüd which was another clan which was from the Turkic shatuo clan and became Mongolizied due to the khitan and later Mongol expansion. There was also the jalayir and dughlat who are purported to also be remnants of the uyghur khaganate. (Not the same as modern uyghurs)

  • @movie9600
    @movie9600 Рік тому

    Хазарачууд бол перс хэлээр ярьдаг хүмүүс монгол биш юмаа хүмүүсээ

  • @electricmachinesub
    @electricmachinesub 8 місяців тому

    Этим казахам-националистам-расистам из Казахстана просто не надо болтать здесь, Хазарейцы- это не ваше дело. Вам надо бороться с кем-то другим государством и вашей бедностью, коррупцией.

  • @baranazin8785
    @baranazin8785 2 роки тому

    Hazara is the main inhabitants of AFghanistan.

  • @mayanktrivedi2601
    @mayanktrivedi2601 2 роки тому

    you have sombody in india????

  • @shakillakabul3338
    @shakillakabul3338 2 роки тому +1

    Hazara is not Mongolia before Islam Hazara people was in Afghanistan 7000 years ago

    • @LASTER1337-c3y
      @LASTER1337-c3y 2 роки тому

      Arab lore

    • @balthazarnielsen6424
      @balthazarnielsen6424 2 роки тому +2

      this is stupid. Hazaras were never in AFG this long ago. Turkics were barely there and specially not mongols

  • @HunzaGirl
    @HunzaGirl 2 роки тому

    Mongolia donated 30k sheep to China, but what about your Hazara brothers in Afghanistan? Hazara Mongol brotherss?do mongolia care about Hazara?

  • @mahdiafg6909
    @mahdiafg6909 3 роки тому +1

    Hello I'm mahdi hazara i want traveling to mangolia i need visa can help me?

  • @sjsjjusisksisissi2i2i32
    @sjsjjusisksisissi2i2i32 3 роки тому +2

    Yasasin turklar🤘🤘🐺🐺🐺🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @muhemmedabdalmejid7577
    @muhemmedabdalmejid7577 3 роки тому +1

    You think know and your friend know about history gangiz Khan monglan Old monglan thay turkic family group gangiz Khan black tatar now modern monglan kalkh thay are mixed with Mancho Tibet Chinese and thay don't Relationship gangiz Khan don't give Rong information for people I know history about monglan gangiz Khan. Any way The answer is that the present Mongols do not belong to the Genghis dynasty and are mostly non-Mongols, that is, non-Turks, and many have long called themselves Mongols because of their "boast" and boasting. , for misusing the name of the Mongols.
    Khawaja Rashid al-Din Fadlallah, in his book "Historical Society" since he is a contemporary of the same Mongols, repeatedly refers to the abuse of the Mongolian name by "non-Mongols" and even claims that some tribes call it unjustly. "Babur" is older than the Mongolian name "objection", meaning they felt "shame and shame" (54), but abusing their position from the Genghis Khan government, they considered themselves Mongols.
    Khaja Rashid al-Din writes: “At this time, due to the government of Jankikiz Khan (Genghis Khan) and Urug (family), other Turkic tribes such as Glaire, Tatars, Averat, Onkut, Kiryat, Neman, Tangut, etc. , each their own. a specific name. It was a special title. They proudly call themselves Mughal although they have rejected this name in the past, and the [interesting] children are now out there and have long thought they attributed the Mongolian name, which it isn't. ”, In ancient times, a people from a group of nomadic Turkic tribes.
    Khaja Rashid al-Din explicitly mentions the misuse of the Mongolian name in other pages of his book, and writes in the second part of his book: The Turkic tribes were an ethnic group and this time their government was given to other tribes with their size and glory. a special name for this sentence. (56)
    Khaja Rashid al-Din, the vizier of Uljat and Ghazan Khan, once again misuses the names of other tribes of the Mughals in a separate chapter, writing: “There are also tribes from the Bedouin community that have recently become known as Mughals. ”(57)
    Despite all the successive and important promises made by the patriarchal minister regarding the abuse of the name of other tribes by the Mongols, most of the Genghis Khan dynasty left Mongolia and the world. Later, instead of "tribes" "like the Mongols" (similar), but "in the old days they were ashamed of this name", but preferred to call themselves "Mongols" at appropriate times. and the lands they occupy are "Mongolia." The main capital of the Turks, where historical inscriptions such as the "Kuok Turks" of the Turkish tribes were removed, and with all patience and pride, is known as "Utkin" in the same lands.
    However, the Khalkha, Han, Manchu, Hui and Dor tribes live in the country, which is now known as "Mongolia". However, "Inner Mongolia" still houses only 17% of its population of 24 million. These are called Mongols and the rest are "non-Mongolian" tribes It is natural that the Turks also have large and diverse communities in Western Mongolia. That is, even the "fake Mughal" makes up no more than 17% of the Mongolian population, and the remaining 83% are not Mongols or Turks.

    • @Nenet-rj9yr
      @Nenet-rj9yr 3 місяці тому

      Mongols so ignorant that they dont know their history..they are a mix of chinese manchu gokturk tunguz sogdian paleosibirian....

  • @atol2750
    @atol2750 3 роки тому +1

    Many Turkish words replaced by Persian and Arabic. So it is not that Language can lead towards an ethnic group. There are many Pashtuns in Afganistan who cannot speak Pashto at all but Persian. So this doesn't mean those Pashtuns are Persians or Tajeks just because they speak Persian. Hazaras have lost most of their language in long period of time. Hazaras speak Hazaragi, which is not exact persian. Even Hazaras who are not religious clerks, can not understand Persian language.

  • @IranAzadLoading
    @IranAzadLoading 3 роки тому +1

    Hazaras are as Mongolian as Mongols from China. Similar amount of C3/C2

    • @ganzorigbayarsaikhan3889
      @ganzorigbayarsaikhan3889 3 роки тому

      Why don't you read your name for yourself?

    • @IranAzadLoading
      @IranAzadLoading 3 роки тому

      @@ganzorigbayarsaikhan3889 its a reminder for people leaving dumb comments to me. Don’t be stupid.

    • @barguttobed
      @barguttobed Рік тому

      @@IranAzadLoading Inner Mongolia has plenty various Mongolian tribes, some of them did sinisized but there are still plenty Inner Mongolians with pure Mongol descent

  • @alitaheri2021
    @alitaheri2021 2 роки тому +1

    i am from afghanistan i am hazara hazara is not mongolia hazara is turk

  • @sameerqasimi6245
    @sameerqasimi6245 3 роки тому +1

    this guy knows nothing about hazara history hazaras r turkic people

    • @aykanazra6969
      @aykanazra6969 3 роки тому +4

      Were mainly mix of medieval Karluk Turks and Mongols and so are you bola jaan.

  • @mohseninm2395
    @mohseninm2395 2 роки тому

    this guy mentioning hazara as mongolian, himself is 93% Central Asian. mongolian dna is not the as the central asians. how come every keep saying that hazaras are mongolian???? i did dna test myself and im 59,1% central asian. this doesnt mean mongolian. so what im trying to say is that all hazaras dont have mongolian dna. i dont have any.

  • @Willxdiana
    @Willxdiana 3 роки тому +1

    please leave to Mongolia, turkey and china. And to west.