For dishes I will force desserts and prepare Macarons, however my egg farmer is not so good either, so I calculated that I need around 300 eggs prior to the event to be fairly comfortable and I already started gathering them xD(same as honey). For berries I hope to see Grass berry because I think they have good synergy with water pokemon and the dishes they can make. I have a meganium that can bring me honey and cacao (plus it's one of the best berry farmers), also Venu for honey and victreebel for potato/tomato just in case I get curries.
If it helps, I have a Leafeon that double-triggered multiple times since the double skill trigger update. Can confirm that energising cheer can target different other pokemon for each of the two triggers, also including itself. Sometimes the same pokemon twice too 28:27
So ever since Suicine was announced I started overstacking with Entie, bfs typhsion, bfs ninetails(with corn), and both my BFS helping bonus falagators. I have over 100+tomatoes now and I am still farming some, I got a good amount o oil I plan to keep farming with my falagotors when the event starts, I should have a good stock pile of corn from the overstacking Ninetails but I got a helping bonus bfs dragonite that should give me the corn I need, and then I have a level 30 mono potato Moseacrstia(the green cat starter). I have saved up 4 re roll tickers and I am hoping to get salads so I can make green grass salad for all 3 of my meals.
Oran/Durrin Berry combo is A tier roll with any dish. Venusaur AA and AB cover desserts and salad combos pretty well. But that combo PLUS Curries/Stews is the best possible roll I think and is S-Tier roll for either week. Victribell and Blastoise duo DreamEater Curry with the proper AB rolls alone. Allowing room for Suicune + Healer + (Insert Water Pokemon) to fill rest of team.
for Week2 don't underestimate the huuuuge amount of ingredients a Vaporeon (and Blastoise) will drop. They can probably cover an ingredient that you are missing and isn't the main focus of a dish
At least I have a maxed skill Vaporeon, and a Feraligator that almost has BFS unlocked (level 50 and I'm at 46). I typically don't re-roll for berry types and dishes, but I have a couple saved up, so I will if I get 2 berry types that I don't have strong mons for. With water types alone, I think I can do desserts best if I save up on eggs. Thanks for a great analysis! I do have a Shroom and Potato Wooper, as well as an ABA Quaxly, but I'm a bit hesitant to power those up for the event, as you mentioned. On top of not having optimal ingredients, those low-level berries won't be as much help to Snorlax as a high-level mon that I already have powered up, even with the 2x strength. Feel free to give your input or suggestions. :)
I agree with everything you've said. Powering up to L30 only for an AB list that isn't preferred results in suboptimal berry strength anyway when another L50+ BFS berry mon to match one of the other 2 berries makes good sense. Even with the skill bonus it probably barely makes up for it.
Do we have a video detailing how to actually do the Helper Boost + Ex Helpful Pokemon stacking method? Now that we can't switch out mons in fear of losing out production. I wanted to know how to do the method.
I didn't make one specifically. Only talked about it theoretically over several videos about helper boost. I don't have hands on experience as I never invested a legendary. If I get a good suicune I could look at making a video.
Great video Brovinne, if I don’t have my sub skill seed from GG lvl 20 achievement, do you think trying for Cyan on week 2 would be the move because most likely future events will be held at GG vs Cyan?
You have week 1 to try and get M20. Hopefully you're also using GCT and preparing ingredients and other things like overstacking or large pot well ahead of time.
I think there is too much emphasis put on having the right ratio when making dishes. It is convenient, yes, to have the right ratio and does get more value out of your ingredient specialists if you have the exact ratio for a meal, but if you are overproducing one, you can always use those ingredients as extra ingredients, especially if the ratio is only slightly off. My berry specialists are never able to fill the entire pot unless I run ingredient mons alongside them. I don't see it as a bad thing if the ratio is off, as long as it isn't absurdly off from the correct ratio.
Extra ingredients aren't bad, they're just nowhere near as good as fave berry or ingredients used within a recipe. However, I also don't know how good each individual's accounts are. I make assumption of keeping all things equal for stats to do the analysis. Between berry specialists and skill specialists there should be plenty of extra ingredients already. Extra ingredients are so bad you shouldn't spend time farming them where possible. The time you spent farming them could've been spent farming correctly matched recipe ingredient or fave berries. Ignoring AB and crits: Extra ingredients = base strength only Recipe ingredients = up to ~4x base strength depending on dish level So you have to farm 4x more extra ingredients to be worth 1 recipe ingredient. That's assuming you have enough pot size to fill all the extra ingredients.
@Bropenings yea, all of that is true, but if you are farming close enough to the right ratio, you are still getting really, really good value out of your ingredients if only a portion of them are being used as excess. If you are filling your pot all the way with excess either way, it doesn't matter if they came from a berry or an ingredient specialist, you are still taking that hit on maximum value from your ingredients, so if some of them have to be from an ingredient specialist because the ratios are somewhat off, it really isn't a downside at all.
I wanted to go to Lapis for second week of the event in order to get a chance at m20 but the extra manes from water types on Cyan might be too good to ignore sadly... oh well maybe some cooking event will be another chance
I’m struggling where to go next week. I don’t have a good totodile nor a good dratini. Should I go to cyan beach to hunt toto or to lapis for dozing and dra?
Very tricky. If you're still hunting toto after water event you'll need to get slumbering for Cyan Beach. But that'll reduce your slumbering for suicune. Thankfully slumbering is the easiest sleep type. I think it's worth getting a BFS toto if you still don't have one. Have to sacrifice some slumbering sessions for suicune.
@@namedjavelin3932 the chance of getting Pokemon outside your sleep type is not 100% so it will still mostly populate with Pokémon from your own sleep style.
@@Bropenings thank you! Unfortunately right now for the first time ever I’m out of dream shards. I finally have a usable larvitar and I used them all to level it up with the mini candy bonus lol. I finally have a use for luck incense and it’s during a week where we have to use incense at least. I might have to use manes to buy the water stone though
I really do appreciate these type of videos cause it help me find a good way to go about the event as a f2p but also I am f2p, no matter what I do im never gonna see a two and three star Suicune. Cause I went to master 15 for both raiku and entei and never saw any spawn on their own. The incense are gonna be the only way im seeing this mofo and to get the first one out of the way I might just throw a masterball at it just to allow for others to show (not that i'll ever see them) and save the manes to stock up for the second one or maybe other items just in case cause the only way Im getting those manes is through my friend list and sleep spawns and have to be careful cause sending $25/$30 for the camp ticket pack is too much. Especially when I send most of my free diamonds on ingredient space. I also hope I don't get dessert cause that's my weakest dish type for me. 😢
Ignoring trial bundle and Premium Pass, best value so far has been anything that goes up to 40-45% discount. But best items to get have been anything with skill seeds and/or GCT.
When we try to force slumber we just put it on a night stand or a flat hard surface with no movement. Just try not to leave it for more than 6 hours at a time without any movement. So nudge it or set a vibrating alarm.
With Suicune event not falling with Sept GsD, extreme DPR is unlikely to appear. This is the only legendary that does not take advantage of the boosted DPR.
But we are also much stronger than the last 2 times we did legendary events. Our accounts are stronger, bigger ing bag for prep, L60 berry mons unlocked etc.
I just started the game and I'm only rank 19, my teams are all below level 20. Would there be a chance I could encounter and catch Suicune or should I stop grinding?
Yeah, all the legendary events so far have catered partly to new players. Cheaper items to exchange for the first few incenses and biscuits for example.
Really hating the RNG in this game at this point. I've been playing almost a year, totodile friendship is at 35 now. Haven't gotten one with BFS, even had a shiny yesterday but all ingredient skills. Hate it.
The TLDR is that you choose Cyan for week 2, and the dishes depend on your mons, Water mons can cover Ninja Curry (except mushrooms), Dream Eater (besides tomato), Macarons (very egg heavy, can be an issue), Popcorn (besides corn), Ninja Salad (very bean and leek heavy), Greengrass (except corn and tomato). You might wanna stockpile the ingredients your team would be weak at collecting the previous week, also Suicune might potentially cover the lacking ingredients here.
Which berry or dish type are you hoping to see for Suicune Event?
Fire type berry for my 2 bfs Typhlosions and curries for some inferno keema curries. Basically, fire type week 2 🔥
For dishes I will force desserts and prepare Macarons, however my egg farmer is not so good either, so I calculated that I need around 300 eggs prior to the event to be fairly comfortable and I already started gathering them xD(same as honey). For berries I hope to see Grass berry because I think they have good synergy with water pokemon and the dishes they can make. I have a meganium that can bring me honey and cacao (plus it's one of the best berry farmers), also Venu for honey and victreebel for potato/tomato just in case I get curries.
Probably sweets given the water type ingredients specialists.
Fighting and curry so I can utilize my HB BFS HM primape
Desserts for sure
I considered splitting this video into 3 parts, but decided it was best to just have all the information in one place.
Next video: Suicune bundles
Brovinnie really do be looking like a floating head with that white shirt with white background 6:49
Ghost type Brovinnie
If it helps, I have a Leafeon that double-triggered multiple times since the double skill trigger update. Can confirm that energising cheer can target different other pokemon for each of the two triggers, also including itself. Sometimes the same pokemon twice too 28:27
The same pokemon twice is...
🥶
So ever since Suicine was announced I started overstacking with Entie, bfs typhsion, bfs ninetails(with corn), and both my BFS helping bonus falagators. I have over 100+tomatoes now and I am still farming some, I got a good amount o oil I plan to keep farming with my falagotors when the event starts, I should have a good stock pile of corn from the overstacking Ninetails but I got a helping bonus bfs dragonite that should give me the corn I need, and then I have a level 30 mono potato Moseacrstia(the green cat starter). I have saved up 4 re roll tickers and I am hoping to get salads so I can make green grass salad for all 3 of my meals.
Nice! I've just been saving my slowpoke tails. I've got 400 now
Won't you reach the maximum over stacking limit?
38:20 man, I'm really grateful that my first delibird is a great egg farmer. I almost invest in an abomasnow with lvl 30 egg
Oran/Durrin Berry combo is A tier roll with any dish. Venusaur AA and AB cover desserts and salad combos pretty well.
But that combo PLUS Curries/Stews is the best possible roll I think and is S-Tier roll for either week. Victribell and Blastoise duo DreamEater Curry with the proper AB rolls alone. Allowing room for Suicune + Healer + (Insert Water Pokemon) to fill rest of team.
for Week2 don't underestimate the huuuuge amount of ingredients a Vaporeon (and Blastoise) will drop. They can probably cover an ingredient that you are missing and isn't the main focus of a dish
At least I have a maxed skill Vaporeon, and a Feraligator that almost has BFS unlocked (level 50 and I'm at 46). I typically don't re-roll for berry types and dishes, but I have a couple saved up, so I will if I get 2 berry types that I don't have strong mons for. With water types alone, I think I can do desserts best if I save up on eggs. Thanks for a great analysis! I do have a Shroom and Potato Wooper, as well as an ABA Quaxly, but I'm a bit hesitant to power those up for the event, as you mentioned. On top of not having optimal ingredients, those low-level berries won't be as much help to Snorlax as a high-level mon that I already have powered up, even with the 2x strength. Feel free to give your input or suggestions. :)
I agree with everything you've said.
Powering up to L30 only for an AB list that isn't preferred results in suboptimal berry strength anyway when another L50+ BFS berry mon to match one of the other 2 berries makes good sense. Even with the skill bonus it probably barely makes up for it.
30:50 I still don’t have a good Feraligatr 😭💦
I’m a dolphin and I’ve been playing almost since the release 🥺
bro same here im at lv20+ with my totodile no BFS yet! been playing since launch i feel your pain
I'm hoping I can snag a good Totodile... The best one I've ever gotten only has 1 speed sub skill and nothing else...
good luck to you! I finally got my BFS totodile this morning
So grateful the shiny croconaw i found a while back will reach 50 & unlock berry finding just in time for this
Definitely want that BFS for suicune event
I got 4 bfs ferilgatrs on deck over lvl 55 and lvl 50 blastoise with helping bonus
Do we have a video detailing how to actually do the Helper Boost + Ex Helpful Pokemon stacking method? Now that we can't switch out mons in fear of losing out production. I wanted to know how to do the method.
I didn't make one specifically. Only talked about it theoretically over several videos about helper boost. I don't have hands on experience as I never invested a legendary.
If I get a good suicune I could look at making a video.
Great video Brovinne, if I don’t have my sub skill seed from GG lvl 20 achievement, do you think trying for Cyan on week 2 would be the move because most likely future events will be held at GG vs Cyan?
You have week 1 to try and get M20. Hopefully you're also using GCT and preparing ingredients and other things like overstacking or large pot well ahead of time.
CB week 2 is most valuable for manes
@@Bropenings awesome, thanks for the advice! Yeah I’m prepping, I already have a nice stack of tails.
I think there is too much emphasis put on having the right ratio when making dishes. It is convenient, yes, to have the right ratio and does get more value out of your ingredient specialists if you have the exact ratio for a meal, but if you are overproducing one, you can always use those ingredients as extra ingredients, especially if the ratio is only slightly off. My berry specialists are never able to fill the entire pot unless I run ingredient mons alongside them. I don't see it as a bad thing if the ratio is off, as long as it isn't absurdly off from the correct ratio.
Extra ingredients aren't bad, they're just nowhere near as good as fave berry or ingredients used within a recipe.
However, I also don't know how good each individual's accounts are. I make assumption of keeping all things equal for stats to do the analysis.
Between berry specialists and skill specialists there should be plenty of extra ingredients already. Extra ingredients are so bad you shouldn't spend time farming them where possible. The time you spent farming them could've been spent farming correctly matched recipe ingredient or fave berries.
Ignoring AB and crits:
Extra ingredients = base strength only
Recipe ingredients = up to ~4x base strength depending on dish level
So you have to farm 4x more extra ingredients to be worth 1 recipe ingredient. That's assuming you have enough pot size to fill all the extra ingredients.
@Bropenings yea, all of that is true, but if you are farming close enough to the right ratio, you are still getting really, really good value out of your ingredients if only a portion of them are being used as excess. If you are filling your pot all the way with excess either way, it doesn't matter if they came from a berry or an ingredient specialist, you are still taking that hit on maximum value from your ingredients, so if some of them have to be from an ingredient specialist because the ratios are somewhat off, it really isn't a downside at all.
I wanted to go to Lapis for second week of the event in order to get a chance at m20 but the extra manes from water types on Cyan might be too good to ignore sadly... oh well maybe some cooking event will be another chance
Yeah I do highly recommend CB even for whales just for the manes.
I’m struggling where to go next week. I don’t have a good totodile nor a good dratini. Should I go to cyan beach to hunt toto or to lapis for dozing and dra?
Very tricky. If you're still hunting toto after water event you'll need to get slumbering for Cyan Beach. But that'll reduce your slumbering for suicune. Thankfully slumbering is the easiest sleep type.
I think it's worth getting a BFS toto if you still don't have one. Have to sacrifice some slumbering sessions for suicune.
I can’t seem to find friends who play, I only have one friend 😅 any tips on how to get more friends?
Use my discord. Hundreds of active players all the time. There's a chat for sharing friend code.
discord.com/invite/bropenings
does getting slumbering really matter if the spawns are set to balanced anyways for both weeks?
@@namedjavelin3932 the chance of getting Pokemon outside your sleep type is not 100% so it will still mostly populate with Pokémon from your own sleep style.
Need to prep some tea and popcorn to enjoy this epic video!
Explosion popcorn no doubt
Is the ftp water stone still available? I’ve been waiting for the suicune event to evolve my vaporeon since I’ve never had a water stone
You need to raise 10 pokemon to level 35
You can find all the achievements here
www.serebii.net/pokemonsleep/achievements.shtml
@@Bropenings thank you! Unfortunately right now for the first time ever I’m out of dream shards. I finally have a usable larvitar and I used them all to level it up with the mini candy bonus lol. I finally have a use for luck incense and it’s during a week where we have to use incense at least. I might have to use manes to buy the water stone though
I really do appreciate these type of videos cause it help me find a good way to go about the event as a f2p but also I am f2p, no matter what I do im never gonna see a two and three star Suicune. Cause I went to master 15 for both raiku and entei and never saw any spawn on their own. The incense are gonna be the only way im seeing this mofo and to get the first one out of the way I might just throw a masterball at it just to allow for others to show (not that i'll ever see them) and save the manes to stock up for the second one or maybe other items just in case cause the only way Im getting those manes is through my friend list and sleep spawns and have to be careful cause sending $25/$30 for the camp ticket pack is too much. Especially when I send most of my free diamonds on ingredient space. I also hope I don't get dessert cause that's my weakest dish type for me. 😢
Random: for a ftp player, what would you say the best bundle available has been to date?
Ignoring trial bundle and Premium Pass, best value so far has been anything that goes up to 40-45% discount. But best items to get have been anything with skill seeds and/or GCT.
@@Bropenings thank you!!
Noo my body could never sleep slumber, and i really want to get suicune without relying solely on incense.
When we try to force slumber we just put it on a night stand or a flat hard surface with no movement. Just try not to leave it for more than 6 hours at a time without any movement. So nudge it or set a vibrating alarm.
@@Bropenings ah, didnt know that you could trick the system like this. thanks.
Maybe Suicune will end up laying eggs, I mean it's a dog cat aurora borealis monster, no point in drawing the line anywhere.
With Suicune event not falling with Sept GsD, extreme DPR is unlikely to appear. This is the only legendary that does not take advantage of the boosted DPR.
But we are also much stronger than the last 2 times we did legendary events. Our accounts are stronger, bigger ing bag for prep, L60 berry mons unlocked etc.
I just started the game and I'm only rank 19, my teams are all below level 20. Would there be a chance I could encounter and catch Suicune or should I stop grinding?
Are you using the incense? You can use a master biscuit on one if you want a guarantee
@@Bropenings I can buy incense using the mane. But I don’t have master biscuit. 😭😭
As a new player have we even got any chance at this event 😂😭
Yeah, all the legendary events so far have catered partly to new players. Cheaper items to exchange for the first few incenses and biscuits for example.
Thank you again for these wonderfully detailed videos on the relevant topic on hand!
I look forward to participating in the google information collection/analysis
I guess we still need to see what Suicune itself can do to see how it may affect what we use?
Yes, but we wont have that info during the preparation phase. It could affect second week prep though.
thank you!! A+++
Using Vaporeon would just be a waste. You have to sell so many ingredients
Definitely need to be smart about using it. If bag full, switch it out for a berry producer.
How many friendship points needed for catching suicune?
Will be 30 just as it was for Raikou and Entei.
Does having a slowbro and slowking count as 2 dif species?
They should. Even Pikachu and Raichu count as 2.
@Bropenings thanks for always responding and being helpful!
For me, I'll be farming for ninja curry
Why slowbro and not slowking?
Approximately:
Slowking is 20% better at skill
Slowbro is 6% better at ingredients
I prefer tails more than the energising cheer.
@@Bropenings good to know! Thanks!
Ice,fairy,flying, or ghost
Really hating the RNG in this game at this point. I've been playing almost a year, totodile friendship is at 35 now. Haven't gotten one with BFS, even had a shiny yesterday but all ingredient skills. Hate it.
At this rate going all the way to FL45 and try for BFS+HB might be worth it.
Oh jeeez 40+ minutes?
I have ZERO good water type Pokémon :’(
There are 2 other fave berries to go for
can someone give a TLDR
The TLDR is that you choose Cyan for week 2, and the dishes depend on your mons, Water mons can cover Ninja Curry (except mushrooms), Dream Eater (besides tomato), Macarons (very egg heavy, can be an issue), Popcorn (besides corn), Ninja Salad (very bean and leek heavy), Greengrass (except corn and tomato).
You might wanna stockpile the ingredients your team would be weak at collecting the previous week, also Suicune might potentially cover the lacking ingredients here.
I have a tldr post planned also. Stay tuned to my community tab.
Gimmie desserts
too slow vincent
Fair point. But I had no time at all to make this. Considering Quagsire's ingredient list was part of the analysis also.
oh i meant too slow to comment first hehe. grateful for the video 😎
oh yeah I was about to make a comment but then I saw yours