Adam Savage: Help Peter Jackson Solve a WWI Mystery!

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  • Опубліковано 28 лип 2019
  • While Adam was in New Zealand filming the laser-tag dogfight episode of Savage Builds, Peter Jackson tells him of a discovery his team made while restoring a World War 1-era airplane. Hidden in plane wings that were made a hundred years ago was a drawn portrait of an unnamed pilot. We need your help uncovering who this pilot was!
    See the sketch here: i.imgur.com/m3tdSRC.jpg
    Watch the episode of Savage Builds here: go.discovery.com/tv-shows/sav...
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  • @tested
    @tested  5 років тому +848

    Amazing! We think you guys have cracked the code ("Mick" Mannock), and have sent your comments on to our contact at The Vintage Aviator Limited. He's going to get a reaction for you all from Peter. Thank you!

    • @outthasky
      @outthasky 5 років тому +56

      The good form of “doxing”

    • @jonathanrg3812
      @jonathanrg3812 5 років тому +25

      The drawing is so similar to the photo that doesn’t it seem as though the pencil drawing was made from the photo and not from a sitting? Right?

    • @25zerotwo
      @25zerotwo 5 років тому +72

      I wonder whether its some kind of good luck charm. The Pilot's wanted a flying ace to 'fly with them' into battle..

    • @oddballssherman3785
      @oddballssherman3785 5 років тому +18

      @@25zerotwoI think you are spot on with that

    • @shrewdape
      @shrewdape 5 років тому +19

      Amazing to think that when Mannock was shot down (crashing a dying) that it was a New Zealand aviator who was following him up and was able to report on his death - perhaps the image has some link to him - a good luck talisman used to keep his friend flying with him? Keep up the great work Adam - it's wonderful!

  • @atommygunn
    @atommygunn 5 років тому +3585

    Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock VC, DSO & Two Bars, MC & Bar (24 May 1887 - 26 July 1918)

    • @lukehagan153
      @lukehagan153 5 років тому +71

      Definitely him.

    • @katarinad1309
      @katarinad1309 5 років тому +51

      Its the exact image I think your right

    • @DannyKlimt
      @DannyKlimt 5 років тому +20

      Positive

    • @FaviousM
      @FaviousM 5 років тому +189

      Yeah that's him en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mick_Mannock_IWM_Q_60800.jpg

    • @MustakimAlMahdi
      @MustakimAlMahdi 5 років тому +64

      I just want to be in the screenshot :)

  • @5ilver42
    @5ilver42 5 років тому +1265

    Hold on. Are we just going to gloss over that Peter Jackson plays laser tag with World War One bi-planes?

    • @heatshield
      @heatshield 5 років тому +20

      lol thats funny actually. Stay tuned for the reveal.

    • @oncydium
      @oncydium 5 років тому +10

      Yes! I want to see this.

    • @CarlWiles
      @CarlWiles 5 років тому +16

      He says it in the video, its discussed on an episode of his show Savage Builds on discovery channel. You likely wont see it on youtube.

    • @grimsoul0
      @grimsoul0 5 років тому +18

      Peter stayed on the ground and watched the dogfight. but Adam was a gunner on one of the planes.

    • @RaidsEpicly
      @RaidsEpicly 5 років тому

      @@CarlWiles Damn...they're on the discovery website but you need a tv subscription. lolnope

  • @russby3554
    @russby3554 4 роки тому +56

    If you guys haven't seen it yet, definitely check out Peter Jackson's documentary on WW1 called They Shall Not Grow Old. It was definitely worth the watch and eye opening

    • @Caseyw462
      @Caseyw462 4 роки тому +2

      Great documentary. Also, if you have the time, check out Dan Carlin's "Blueprint for Amregeddon".

  • @jimprice9703
    @jimprice9703 5 років тому +9

    This is a pencil sketch of the photo posted to Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock, Wiki page. Every angle and wrinkle is carefully sketched in exactly. From his history, this might have been done by a fellow squad member after Mick crashed during a dog fight, as a tribute to another lost flyer, allowing him to continue flying with his squadron. It might also have been done as a talisman by another flyer wishing that maybe some of Mick's luck and ability might transfer over. Either way (or any other way, for that matter), to find it after 100 years is something special. It brought back a few memories to me of my grandfather. He didn't like to talk about it too much, but he did mention that he was in the US navy and actually worked as a diver... the old kind that wore lead boots and a copper helmet breathing air pumped from the surface. The greatest pity is that 'The Great War' proved not to be the last one.

  • @BillKermanKSP
    @BillKermanKSP 5 років тому +369

    Adam Savage, Peter Jackson and WWI in the title? *click*

  • @PalTiya
    @PalTiya 5 років тому +21

    Our Co-Founder loved meeting Adam and his team when they were at Weta Workshop! Love Adam's enthusiasm and energy on this channel 🤩

  • @turdferguson9190
    @turdferguson9190 5 років тому +140

    We need a Peter Jacksons Hangar UA-cam channel just like Jay Lenos Garage!

    • @SeaYaSailing
      @SeaYaSailing 5 років тому +2

      He also owns a model company that produces some of the best 1/32 WW1 aircraft kits in the world. Wingnut Wings.

    • @ihcfn
      @ihcfn 5 років тому

      Much more interesting

    • @glendyer7056
      @glendyer7056 5 років тому

      Come to Blenheim, and out at Omaka u can see the lot! 🤗🤗

    • @garynew9637
      @garynew9637 5 років тому

      Have seen his museum in blenheim nz. He has 4 driedekkers in his collection

    • @garynew9637
      @garynew9637 5 років тому

      @@glendyer7056 was there2019😁

  • @perry92964
    @perry92964 5 років тому +21

    its unlikely a pilot would put a picture of himself inside the wing of a plane, it might have been a superstitious squad mate creating a memorial for his friend.

  • @sensorsensor
    @sensorsensor 5 років тому +13

    Connection with New Zealand: On 26 July, Major Mannock offered to help a new arrival, Lt. Donald C. Inglis from New Zealand, obtain his first victory. After shooting down an enemy LVG two-seater behind the German front-line, Mannock is believed to have dived to the crash site to view the wreckage, seemingly breaking one of the unwritten rules of fellow pilots.In consequence, while crossing the trenches the fighters were met with a massive volley of ground-fire. The engine of Mannock's aircraft was hit
    and immediately caught fire..

  • @tommihommi1
    @tommihommi1 5 років тому +566

    you need to get this image to the front page of reddit

    • @ThomasAherne
      @ThomasAherne 5 років тому +3

      Brilliant idea.

    • @liableduke7741
      @liableduke7741 5 років тому +11

      we should also try 4chan

    • @BeYourselfBeMe
      @BeYourselfBeMe 5 років тому +42

      Look up Mick Mannock. his picture looks identical to the drawing

    • @WhereisRoadster
      @WhereisRoadster 5 років тому +7

      @@BeYourselfBeMe Except for the mustache, which was supposed to be required of the British in WWI, so...

    • @2011Jayceon
      @2011Jayceon 5 років тому +3

      @@WhereisRoadster Doesnt look like a mustache.

  • @andrearovati
    @andrearovati 5 років тому +31

    I bet the pilot is Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock (24 May 1887 - 26 July 1918) a pilot who served in the royal flying corps and the royal air force.
    He died during a flight with a young new zealand pilot

    • @nickalossigurnjak7421
      @nickalossigurnjak7421 5 років тому

      Upvote!

    • @AXPortugal
      @AXPortugal 5 років тому

      The Britosh flying ace, would be a hell of a plane to find, but almost to good to be true

    • @hockeybyulf
      @hockeybyulf 5 років тому

      For sure, no doubt.

    • @gerryparker1390
      @gerryparker1390 5 років тому +1

      The sketch shows a moustashe which was not the usual look for Mick Mannock. Not hard to grow and remove a stashe, but so far I have seen no photo of Mannock with a moustashe.

    • @gingivitis9148
      @gingivitis9148 5 років тому

      honestly i thought it was just it was just bias but the face matches up but what sells it for me is the way the tie is positioned it doesn't seem stranded to me. wow that was fast be i can't help but feel we're being trolled. o-o

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 5 років тому +178

    Wow, Peter Jackson is the Jay Leno of WWI planes :-)

    • @bradster1708
      @bradster1708 5 років тому +23

      Actually he is one step better. Jay just collects and restores cars.
      Peter not only collects and restores WWI aircraft but owns a company that makes arguably some of the best plastic kits of WWI aircraft in 1/32 scale.
      The company is called Wingnut wings.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 років тому +2

      @@bradster1708 Dude is loaded, he could lower the prices on those kits!

    • @Kalashboy420
      @Kalashboy420 5 років тому +8

      @@Clay3613 yeah he is loaded, but the people who make the kits are not, they need to feed their families

    • @gringofett3944
      @gringofett3944 5 років тому +3

      @@bradster1708 Peter Jackson is friends with Kermit Weeks who owns one of the largest personal collection of aircraft in the world. Kermit has a video of some aircraft he got from Peter in trade for other WW1 biplanes. Check out Fantasy of Flight and see the amazing stuff Kermit has. He has so many aircraft he cant even display them all and many of them are scattered around the world in shops being restored. ua-cam.com/video/YJkiL7MoEmo/v-deo.html

    • @Blockistium
      @Blockistium 5 років тому

      goddamn it how did you know i just saw that video

  • @jules3311
    @jules3311 5 років тому +58

    Next Peter Jackson movie:
    "The life of Mannock"

    • @joshuartaylor30
      @joshuartaylor30 5 років тому +1

      Peter Jackson could literally do whatever he wants for the rest of his life...like, collect old ass planes like a 7 year old making model plane kits.

    • @jules3311
      @jules3311 5 років тому +3

      ​@@joshuartaylor30 Yes, but I would prefer if he continues with movies. And a WWI blockbuster from Peter Jackson would be awesome.

    • @elgostine
      @elgostine 5 років тому

      @Mr. Al that was a HAUNTING movie.

    • @theshamanarchist5441
      @theshamanarchist5441 5 років тому

      Or maybe start a tribute band?
      'Mannock Mick & The Bi-Planes'

    • @sopwithpuppy
      @sopwithpuppy 5 років тому

      Peter Jackson also makes model planes. His company "Wingnut Wings" makes THE BEST 1/32 scale model aircraft. They only make WW1 aircraft (though there are is one or two "post-war" aircraft in the range - "post-war" indicating how soon after WW1 they were manufactured. Sir Peter laser measures every existing original WW1 aircraft, as well as those he has meticulously manufactured from original plans, and scales it down to 1/32 scale. The kits are superb.

  • @daradicalcavy5235
    @daradicalcavy5235 3 роки тому

    So pleased to see that you found his identity. My Great Grandad flew bombers in WW2 and sadly there's no records of him so I hope this was of some comfort to his family that he wasn't forgot!

  • @RFC3514
    @RFC3514 5 років тому +15

    Probably someone wanted to have Mannock as a "wingman", so they made a drawing from the photo and put it in their plane's wing. Literalist WWI voodoo. :P
    The drawing is close enough to Mannock's photo that I'm surprised an automated image similarity search didn't match it (I assume Peter tried that).

  • @Werd2jaH
    @Werd2jaH 5 років тому +15

    I think the people who are in the tested crew could do a show or series where they just go around solving popular/common known problems and issues of different jobs/careers/systems/designs. There’s enough different collective expertise to where a solution that is perfect will arise or a spectacular fail, either way hella entertaining

    • @Werd2jaH
      @Werd2jaH 5 років тому

      thaNorthStar.com ok

    • @cpmenninga
      @cpmenninga 5 років тому

      They couldn’t handle this very simple research mystery.

  • @FelixIsMyName
    @FelixIsMyName 5 років тому +63

    Adam, best bet to get in touch with Duxford Imperial War Museum, as they have access to all the British records and will be able to solve this.

    • @simmyqux
      @simmyqux 5 років тому +7

      Needed to upvote this 1000 times. I've been to Duxford and the knowledge based there is incredible.

    • @alanb9443
      @alanb9443 5 років тому +3

      They’ve already found him ua-cam.com/users/redirect?redir_token=6-iY05NoTYUqvWdUCi7O2f3xvBF8MTU2NDU2MTM5MEAxNTY0NDc0OTkw&event=comments&q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AMick_Mannock_IWM_Q_60800.jpg&stzid=UgzubvVdWZmiH-XWOhF4AaABAg.8xyn8sP877K8xypEGnTlHK looks like the artist copied this exact picture

  • @AE-dn8es
    @AE-dn8es 5 років тому

    I'm up to episode 8 of Savage Builds and I've been grinning and laughing like an excited child on every episode. The potato cannon hahahaha.

  • @ParanoidCarrot
    @ParanoidCarrot 5 років тому +1

    this makes me so happy, what a wonderful discovery ! this is the kinda history i love

  • @OuroborosOfGreed
    @OuroborosOfGreed 5 років тому +12

    Honestly, most if not all regiments of british commonwealth militaries have meticulous records and often archivists to manage them. You should consider tracking down the regiment using the markings on the plane, and his uniform in the drawing and ask them to do a little digging based on the portrait. It's possible they could find it for him.

    • @scootergrant8683
      @scootergrant8683 5 років тому

      S.E.5. aircraft never made it outside of Britain so it has to be a British man.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 5 років тому

      I looked at the picture and said Mick Mannock. He is the top RAF ace in history, so it wasn’t hard.

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday 5 років тому +3

    You and Tory were fantastic together BTW - really entertaining! would love to see you two work together on more stuff. Maximum respect to all co-workers past and present but you and Tory? you've got chemistry!

    • @DonalvonGriffyn
      @DonalvonGriffyn 5 років тому +1

      I met Tory recently and I got the impression that he's geekier than he lets on. When Adam and Tory get together the fandom would be strong in that place.

    • @JohnnyWednesday
      @JohnnyWednesday 5 років тому

      @@DonalvonGriffyn - Maybe it's a few more years of life or maybe it's just Adam with Tory but they were totally on fire! Tory is a great guy and a fantastic presenter - I really wish him well whatever he's doing but I really hope Adam enjoyed working with him as much as I did watching it :)

    • @cruelkid420
      @cruelkid420 5 років тому

      they r married to each other ....

  • @SeanPatrickBurgess
    @SeanPatrickBurgess 5 років тому

    Neat to see the progress being made already. I can’t contribute to the investigation, but happy to see this plane. The SE5 has been one of my favorites since the movie and book High Road To China.

  • @mikeupton5406
    @mikeupton5406 4 роки тому

    This is an amazing story. Thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @MYCKEY40
    @MYCKEY40 5 років тому +38

    maybe @the Great War can help I’ll forward the video.

  • @trueKorvus
    @trueKorvus 5 років тому +186

    Looks like Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock the flying Ace.

    • @trueKorvus
      @trueKorvus 5 років тому +17

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Mannock

    • @cmdrmiketv2698
      @cmdrmiketv2698 5 років тому +14

      If it isn't that fellow, thats certainly the portrait that drawing is based off of. The tie, and medals are a direct match. This might have been 'traced' via projector.

    • @isaaccisa
      @isaaccisa 5 років тому +1

      +

    • @cmdrmiketv2698
      @cmdrmiketv2698 5 років тому +30

      I can totally see some pilots putting a sketch of him in their planes for good luck.

    • @fstromberg
      @fstromberg 5 років тому +7

      That was quick! Ok, this is most certainly the basis for the drawing.

  • @iancampbell2609
    @iancampbell2609 5 років тому +1

    What an amazing story. Here's hoping that someone will recognize the young man in the portrait.

  • @Sensorium19
    @Sensorium19 5 років тому +1

    Fabulous attempt. I hope someone knows and comes forward.

  • @mrwhiteno50
    @mrwhiteno50 5 років тому +8

    Peter Jackson's gotta exactly who Mick Mannock is and this is just a clever way to get people to look up and celebrate this guy who died just over 101 years ago 26th July 1918.

    • @waynerussell6401
      @waynerussell6401 5 років тому +1

      AKA Colin McKenzie.
      Peter is famous for his spoofs...
      www.nzonscreen.com/title/forgotten-silver-1995

  • @strangelee4400
    @strangelee4400 5 років тому +4

    That's my great great grandad....Bob. Grandad Bob always said I could have his plane after he passed away.
    Honest.

  • @fstromberg
    @fstromberg 5 років тому

    Fascinating. Gonna come back here to follow the development.

  • @TimmyB1867
    @TimmyB1867 5 років тому

    well. I just saw this and was going to go try and see if I couldn't at least narrow down his unit, only to see that it's pretty well solved. Brilliant work folks. I tip my hat to you all.

  • @istvansipos9940
    @istvansipos9940 5 років тому +5

    when looking at old military photos, I usually have the impression that the person looks like everybody's grandpa (in the matching race, of course)

  • @nospam-hn7xm
    @nospam-hn7xm 5 років тому +3

    That drawing was taken from the picture, i.e., the picture was the subject, not the man. I copied the closing image of this video and overlaid it on a photograph of Mick found on Wikipedia. The eyes match perfectly!

  • @Wraithninja1
    @Wraithninja1 4 роки тому

    WW1 air lazertag? This is the sport I've been looking for all my life!

  • @NoTimeLeft_
    @NoTimeLeft_ 5 років тому +1

    I am watching season 2 of the expanse. And guess who I saw!?!?!
    Great job Savage! I loved seeing you! Sorry your ship got blown to pieces.

  • @g.defreestlarner772
    @g.defreestlarner772 5 років тому +2

    I find it hard to believe that Peter Jackson didn't immediately recognise that as Mick Mannock!

  • @gtametro
    @gtametro 5 років тому +14

    this was solved so fast it seems like a set up lol

    • @gorazdvahen492
      @gorazdvahen492 5 років тому +1

      Because it is : )

    • @panzerlieb
      @panzerlieb 5 років тому +1

      But it got you looking up old WW1 aces didn’t it? Which was probably their goal.
      How many of you read about Mick’s story? I know I did. What did most of you think about him?

  • @timothyissler3815
    @timothyissler3815 5 років тому

    Seeing Peter Jackson and Adam Savage in the same frame is overwhelming.

  • @vancampbell767
    @vancampbell767 5 років тому

    I say Peter Jackson should have a world-renowned artist paint this man's drawing as Nose Art! How awesome would that be, after this drawing survived 100 years of war, neglect, and mother nature; to then be found and painted on the restored plane where it was hidden for a century! Please make this happen!!!!

  • @selwynwoods1283
    @selwynwoods1283 5 років тому +18

    i'm curious if a facial recognition software would be able to get a simple face structure of the drawing and have it compare it to archive photos

    • @selwynwoods1283
      @selwynwoods1283 5 років тому

      Another fun thing I found is that Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock flew with No. 74 Squadron RAF witch flew S.E.5a the plane that i belive Adam and Peter are infront of in the video and 26 July 1918 Mannock offered to help Donald Inglis from New Zealand. shoot down an enemy Mannock dived to the crash site to view the crash while crossing the trenches the fighters were met with gun fire. Mannock's aircraft was hit and shortly after the plane crashed

  • @scott_aero3915
    @scott_aero3915 5 років тому +4

    I don't for a second believe that PJ and his team didn't know exactly who that was - Mannock VC.

    • @tested
      @tested  5 років тому

      They absolutely didn't. Hence this video.

    • @cpmenninga
      @cpmenninga 5 років тому

      That’s really cool about the New Zealand connection and that the anniversary of Mannock’s death just passed. That’s great Peter now has an object associated with such a famous pilot. I’m sure he knows about some pilots even if he doesn’t seem to know anything about Mannock. Too bad he doesn’t have any resources other than asking the internet to help him in this kind of situation. Seems unwieldy.

  • @redbearrc6706
    @redbearrc6706 4 роки тому +1

    In the 90ties there was a series Reaching for the Skies. I taped them and rewatched the episode about dogfights in WW1. There I saw major Mick Mannock. I thought when I get a son I will give him the name Mick. So it happened. Now they found another portrait from him. I told my son and finds it a cool story. They have the same good looks☺

  • @PWFenton
    @PWFenton 5 років тому +2

    Here's something freaky... His best friend was flying with him and witnessed his plane go down. That friend was a New Zealand flier, Lt. Donald Inglis. Jackson's plane could very well have been the one flown by his friend from New Zealand. Can't you imagine him putting a picture of his flying buddy in his wing?

  • @dukewheeler7846
    @dukewheeler7846 5 років тому +2

    I was half hoping it would be a stick figure drawing

  • @hellfirechg
    @hellfirechg 5 років тому +5

    Pilot is Mick Mannock.

  • @andrewlazenby6598
    @andrewlazenby6598 5 років тому +1

    This.... this is what is amazingly awesome about the internet.

  • @ross4814
    @ross4814 5 років тому

    Of course this shows up on my feed 3 weeks later. Imagine for a moment, the artist and Mick. They could never dream that so many people would see this picture one hundred years later and become obsessed with it's origins.

  • @winndal
    @winndal 5 років тому +7

    Colonel William Bishop?

  • @osg1385
    @osg1385 5 років тому +12

    Anyone else getting nervous watching Pete swing his cup of coffee around in front of the plane ?

    • @josephneider7332
      @josephneider7332 5 років тому +1

      The planes fly in clouds and some rain and oil and fuel smoke from their targets.. i doubt its an issue. Fabric is coated and sealed

    • @timothyissler3815
      @timothyissler3815 5 років тому +5

      It's tea. Though one shouldn't be nervous if they've seen what he does while directing a movie (behind the scenes footage on the Hobbit shows him running full speed down a slope of gold coins and not spilling a drop).

    • @christinewallace4389
      @christinewallace4389 5 років тому

      That would be tea!

    • @osg1385
      @osg1385 5 років тому

      Do we know it's tea, or are we just guessing.....?

    • @daxriley8195
      @daxriley8195 5 років тому +2

      @@osg1385 It's always tea, that's Peter's constant in life.

  • @007Davis
    @007Davis 5 років тому

    I recommend contacting the Army Air Corps Museum at Middelwallop as he does have Royal Artillery colla badges and the RFC worked alongside the Royal Artillery.

  • @jamespazuzuairsoft5369
    @jamespazuzuairsoft5369 5 років тому

    I had no idea about peter Jackson's passion for ww1 until i saw his film "They Shall not Grow Old" and my god what a great film and a passionate historian. If you haven't seen this movie i highly recommend it. It was easily the most awe inspiring, somber, and beautiful movie ive ever seen.

  • @elderTron
    @elderTron 5 років тому +5

    The Imgur link is just a blank page !

  • @omgItsGreg
    @omgItsGreg 5 років тому +8

    Peter Jackson looks like Anything4Views' long lost father. Without the mole, of course

  • @tmschooler
    @tmschooler 5 років тому +1

    I would LOVE to hear the story behind the pilot and this airplane!

  • @jlars231
    @jlars231 5 років тому

    What an awesome sketch

  • @IneptOrange
    @IneptOrange 5 років тому +5

    I have no idea who the man is. I think I figured out a few irrelevant details about the drawing though, entirely speculation. If you don't like that sort of thing, fair enough, skip past.
    For reference, I will refer to left and right by the man in the painting's left and right and will say when I am doing so. I recommend pulling up the full res version from the description.
    For one, I believe this is a portrait. This could have been drawn by the man himself, but the thing that gives away that it's been drawn by somebody else is the reflection in the right eye of the man. As you can see, the reflection is split in two, seemingly right down the middle of the reflection. This gives me the impression that the artist was standing directly in-front of him, blocking some of the light. That's probably a really obvious thing to point out. The artist was right handed, and we know because of the direction in which the pencil strokes start and end. For a clearer view of this, look under the man's nose to his left. An other observation I have made is in the man's left eye. The reflection is different. Now of course, reflections change shape as you curve them around a curved object like an eye, but the shadow is far larger. This makes me think that after drawing the right eye; presumably first, the artist then leaned in to draw the left one, blocking more of the light out. Other interesting observations include the drawing of the RFC badge on his left side, which of course he would have, but I find it quite amazing to see nonetheless. I have suspicion the photo was either taken outside in the evening or the morning due to the fairly low angle of the light, and the amount of glow on the less lit side of his face, which would make sense as around 6PM and 6AM are known to photographers as being the "Golden hours" in which everything looks way better in photos due to lighting conditions (As far as my memory serves).
    It's not a crazy idea that perhaps they thought the same about it with drawing portraits. I mean without a camera, drawing it is probably the best way to accurately re-create it.
    That again is probably an obvious observation and would likely be figured out with a single google search.
    The portrait is sun-bleached at the base and top, and the almost perfect lines lead me to think that perhaps the artist kept it in a sketchbook that wasn't quite large enough to fit it for a while before stowing it in the aircraft wing. For the reason that I speculate that perhaps a relative or friend had drawn it a short while beforehand, and may have stored it in the wing a few months later.
    Anyway that was my take on it. I really hope we can find the man in the depiction, and also find out who drew it.

    • @IneptOrange
      @IneptOrange 5 років тому +2

      So it turns out I was wrong. This was a drawing made from a photo as this is said to be Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock, a world war one ace pilot with 61 aerial victories by his death. Now knowing that information I know that the reflection in his eyes is in fact the camera, and that the second eye was simply drawn slightly incorrectly. The lighting is good because it was taken by a photographer, and I was entirely incorrect lol. Still, I'd like to know who drew it and when.

  • @Meltir
    @Meltir 5 років тому +79

    Any details on the plane itself ? model/make/serial/dates ? could help narrow it down

    • @ZachsMind
      @ZachsMind 5 років тому +8

      There's no certainty that the pilot in the artwork necessarily flew that particular plane. May have been a friend of the pilot or perhaps a secret lover. Many variables we can't dismiss.

    • @gingivitis9148
      @gingivitis9148 5 років тому +6

      @@ZachsMind yeah but like different models and stuff would be manufactured and repaired in different places so it could narrow down what corps or what even was stationed there.

    • @tlshortyshorty5810
      @tlshortyshorty5810 5 років тому +2

      Sopwith Camel?

    • @aarondickson3308
      @aarondickson3308 5 років тому +31

      Pilot Found - Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock
      imgur.com/a/XNNps8p

    • @MLTyler
      @MLTyler 5 років тому +2

      The plane is an SE-5 Any information on manufacture, or what squadron(s) if belonged to would narrow the search.

  • @TestingPyros
    @TestingPyros 5 років тому

    Beautiful drawing!

  • @MrJeepinZeke
    @MrJeepinZeke 5 років тому

    Wow! Crazy! Hope this mystery is solved!

  • @rosshemmings9384
    @rosshemmings9384 5 років тому +41

    Were there any serial numbers to go with plane/wings? Military folks like to record everything so you should be able to find records of who plane was assigned to. Rots of ruck!

    • @GabrielRamirez-fv8uy
      @GabrielRamirez-fv8uy 5 років тому +6

      I was thinking the same, greetings from mexico. :-D

    • @Mr_Fancypants
      @Mr_Fancypants 5 років тому +6

      @thaNorthStar.com So does your website

    • @rosshemmings9384
      @rosshemmings9384 5 років тому +1

      @@GabrielRamirez-fv8uy great minds think alike but then fools seldom differ!

    • @GabrielRamirez-fv8uy
      @GabrielRamirez-fv8uy 5 років тому

      @thaNorthStar.com god bless you.

    • @malifor00
      @malifor00 5 років тому +1

      @@GabrielRamirez-fv8uy dayyuuuum what a power move

  • @DarkValorWolf
    @DarkValorWolf 5 років тому +10

    He has been found! We believe it to be Mick Mannock, just look at his Wikipedia page, the picture is almost the exact same!

    • @Lordadriano
      @Lordadriano 5 років тому +1

      Looks like you're right. This pic is almost identical i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/c4/35/fac43556cb4ab78b3e94e81209c86651.jpg

  • @martinstrumpfer1620
    @martinstrumpfer1620 5 років тому

    We need more footage and stories from that hanger please!

  • @typeOhh
    @typeOhh 5 років тому +1

    I found a few planes in people's attic's so far. Amazing.

  • @stamfordly6463
    @stamfordly6463 5 років тому +13

    Would it be possible for Mr Jackson to tell us the number of the aircraft? With a serial or reg number it might be possible to trace it back to its original squadrons and then use the Army and pilot rumour sites (arrse.co.uk and pprune) to track down more information.

    • @jonipaananen9304
      @jonipaananen9304 5 років тому

      Would there be any number on the wing? I'm pretty sure he said it was only the wing that they found.

  • @fauxgt
    @fauxgt 5 років тому +12

    i know this isnt really helping to solve this mystery in any way, but am I the only one here who thinks that this guy kinda looks like Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds?

    • @BeardedPiper
      @BeardedPiper 5 років тому

      That was my first thought too. Haha

    • @rootieboy
      @rootieboy 5 років тому

      arivaderchee

  • @cam4894
    @cam4894 5 років тому

    Unfortunately I don't know who the pilot is. But the greatest day I ever had working at a movie theater for 6.5 years was when a WWII pilot came to see Flyboys and told me that he had been trained by the guys the movie was based off of. We talked for twenty minutes before his movie and another half an hour after. It's been over 12 years, but the memory still brings a smile to my face!

  • @heyimamaker
    @heyimamaker 5 років тому +1

    While this is interesting, it reminded me of the time I was researching the Red Baron. I then discovered that not only was WOP may ( Wilfrid Reid ) was from the same city as me, was from Canada, and he also went to one of the same Highschool school as I did. Although I am far younger :)
    I love these sorts of connections to history!

  • @Keeping_IT_Simple
    @Keeping_IT_Simple 5 років тому +9

    Maybe some AI facial recognition software could scan a pile of squadron photos from that era ?
    Hopefully it would narrow down the search ?

    • @joshua.snyder
      @joshua.snyder 5 років тому

      Crowd sourcing already cracked it.

  • @BeYourselfBeMe
    @BeYourselfBeMe 5 років тому +29

    Look up Mick Mannock. his picture looks identical to the drawing

    • @ZeroRyoko
      @ZeroRyoko 5 років тому

      Could be!

    • @Oni_Ji
      @Oni_Ji 5 років тому +2

      Yeah looks like we have a winner. The face looks slightly different but every other detail is spot on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Mannock#/media/File:Mick_Mannock_IWM_Q_60800.jpg

    • @hockeybyulf
      @hockeybyulf 5 років тому

      For sure, no doubt.

    • @nigeltravis4018
      @nigeltravis4018 5 років тому

      BINGO! Looks spot on.

  • @peterkelley6344
    @peterkelley6344 5 років тому

    Adam - keep mysteries coming! Maybe Mysterious Monday?

  • @schmockvanfusel2117
    @schmockvanfusel2117 5 років тому

    Photoshop: Drawing and photo of head and cap fit exactly to the pixel. Every detail. Every line. Every millimeter. Pretty exact for a sketcher.

  • @Zyhmet
    @Zyhmet 5 років тому +9

    Adam I fear your link to the sketch in the description is wrong. The imgur image shows some kind of white back of a paper, not the foto.

    • @Nikulas228
      @Nikulas228 5 років тому

      download it or it will not show.

    • @Zyhmet
      @Zyhmet 5 років тому +1

      @@Nikulas228 huh... what is this? Sorcery?! :P

    • @Nikulas228
      @Nikulas228 5 років тому

      Nope to be frank I have no idea

  • @zazen69
    @zazen69 5 років тому +5

    You should get Jamie Hyneman on, would be interesting to hear you guys reminisce.

    • @fedayk1n
      @fedayk1n 5 років тому

      nah, fuck that guy

    • @Temp0raryName
      @Temp0raryName 5 років тому +2

      @Nicolas RAGE Jamie has appeared in a few Tested videos in the past though, so that would not be a problem in itself. All Adam would need to do is pick a topic that may tempt Jamie to come on.

  • @krazybadger78
    @krazybadger78 4 роки тому

    thank you youtube. the algorithm has finally helped me the viewer out. also thanks to the ppl that actually produced this vid.

  • @TonyKuzmin
    @TonyKuzmin 5 років тому

    Unbelievable find!

  • @danforthlaertes
    @danforthlaertes 5 років тому +3

    So, if the image is of Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock VC, DSO & Two Bars, MC & Bar (24 May 1887 - 26 July 1918) (as seems to be the case from other comments here) and seems to have been made from a photograph, not real life - is it possible this was a sort of talisman put into the plane for good luck? Mannock was a fighter ace and highly decorated - might he have been a celebrity of sorts? Or, might his image have been carried on / in planes after his death as a tribute to him? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Mannock

  • @MeanderMike
    @MeanderMike 5 років тому +5

    Isn't he Mick Mannock?

  • @gardenrailroading
    @gardenrailroading 5 років тому

    That is amazing, it does look just like Mick Mannock! Wow

  • @Vampirebear13
    @Vampirebear13 5 років тому

    I've never watched this channel before but this video was excellent. And I was going to say The British War Museum should know who the pilot was but I think Chris Boxell already solved the mystery.

  • @capt_howdy
    @capt_howdy 5 років тому +5

    When did Peter get fat again? I thought he lost a bunch of weight?
    Life’s hard. lol

    • @jamesofaustralia8193
      @jamesofaustralia8193 4 роки тому

      He's not been running between stage sets and locations working on a Middle Earth film for a few years. No wonder he's a bit out of shape 😂

    • @neillopez5458
      @neillopez5458 3 роки тому

      Got fat very easy. The trick is to exlbit a coordinated hand movement bearing food to mouth. Set the controls to full speed. A common new zealand habit

    • @JHParee
      @JHParee 3 роки тому

      The stress of The Hobbit trilogy sabotaged his weight.

  • @drtoboggan5195
    @drtoboggan5195 5 років тому +4

    Its Mick Mannock VC

    • @simonwkey
      @simonwkey 5 років тому

      Dr Toboggan nothing like him

    • @drtoboggan5195
      @drtoboggan5195 5 років тому

      Seriously? Google his name.

  • @johnevans7261
    @johnevans7261 5 років тому

    If that particular S.E.5a's history is known, I recommend checking the squadrons it served with: Mannock commanded a Flight in No.74 Squadron RFC and was then promoted to command No.85. A hero unknown to the public at large until after his death, he was already one to the men whom he'd commanded long before he went down to ground fire on 26 July 1918 - and I think one of them, most likely a ground crewman or repairer with access to the aircraft, made and concealed the drawing.

  • @feelthepayne88
    @feelthepayne88 5 років тому

    I wish I was able to say to my buddies, "Hey, let's go play laser tag in my squadron of collector planes."

  • @lewisjames4268
    @lewisjames4268 5 років тому +4

    Peter is seriously out of shape. Can’t see him living much longer

  • @cheappyv5156
    @cheappyv5156 5 років тому +3

    Jackson doesn't look very healthy unfortunately

  • @martinkahan2469
    @martinkahan2469 5 років тому +2

    No matter how many times I requested they would never try and bust the myth of Richard Gere and the gerbil

  • @Wicket_78
    @Wicket_78 5 років тому

    what a neat find!!!

  • @BinaryBunyip
    @BinaryBunyip 5 років тому +2

    Could be a luck charm, or luck like others have commented. But if there's hardly any wings left, who knows how many other pilots did this, for whatever reason? Amazing.

  • @davismw2000
    @davismw2000 5 років тому

    As an Illustrator it I have to agree it looks like William Avery Bishop doing a side by side it pretty much matches Bishop

  • @jonasr7230
    @jonasr7230 5 років тому

    Royal flying corps badge and artillery corps badges. That could mean this was early on in the days of the war, as the royal flying corps didn’t become the Royal Air Force until nearly the end of the war (which came with a badge change etc). Also the artillery badges could possibly indicate that he was part of the observers division of the royal artillery, checking enemy positions, and spotting from the air.

  • @robertmorey4104
    @robertmorey4104 3 роки тому

    Yeah Mannock would be my guess too. He was charismatic leader, so perhaps his pilots sketched that in his honor. Or perhaps that was his SE5. Wouldn't that be crazy! That's a damn good sketch!

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes 5 років тому +1

    Load it in to facebook and see if the Facial Recognition system tags it with anyone.
    If a descendant of the pilot has similar enough features, it might narrow it down to the correct family.

  • @philshepherd851
    @philshepherd851 5 років тому +2

    I agree, with other comments that it could be Edward Corringham "Mick" Mannock. I also agree that Peter Jackson must almost certainly know of Mannock as he was one of the most decorated men in the British Army, a Victoria Cross recipient, and the 5th highest scoring pilot of the war. Has he discounted Mannock? Or is it an elaborate way or commemorating him on the 101st anniversary of his death?

    • @cpmenninga
      @cpmenninga 5 років тому

      I just assumed filthy lucre was involved.

  • @brendenwymer3976
    @brendenwymer3976 5 років тому

    If the air craft has any serial numbers on it. You could potentially take it to war archives in Britain, find out who flew the plane and cross reference that portrait with any pictures of the man or men who flew the aircraft.

  • @siviter
    @siviter 3 роки тому

    So much respect for people like Peter. Makes some money in their life and use it for something greater than the individual. In this case, preserving extremely rare First world war aircraft. When I see someone driving around London in a gold plated Lamborghini who looks like he's been booted through the Gucci store, It's incredibly sad in comparison.

  • @CesarIsaacPerez
    @CesarIsaacPerez 5 років тому

    That's a nice portrait.

  • @danteericdraven
    @danteericdraven 5 років тому

    i asked my dad about this as he loves military planes and he said to contact the RAF museums at Hendon or Cosford.

  • @waterboy181
    @waterboy181 5 років тому

    It would have been awesome if when you unrolled the picture it was a Charles Shultz drawing of Snoopy piloting his doghouse into battle against the Red Barron.

  • @CavemanProps
    @CavemanProps 5 років тому

    Shared it out on my Facebook book here in U.K. If I hear anything back I'll let you know.