Harlan Ellison "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" interview

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  • @Nov-5062
    @Nov-5062 Рік тому +226

    I love how the interview all of a sudden diagressed into talking about Oj Simpson and cheese and fashion for seemingly no reason.

  • @korkskrew2000
    @korkskrew2000 3 роки тому +907

    can't say i was expecting the creator of some of the most horrific and bleakest stories ever to drop a "yo mama" joke in middle of a sentence

    • @roger-yy7po
      @roger-yy7po 6 місяців тому +26

      He also wrote some of the best light humor stories !

  • @bunnylegion3969
    @bunnylegion3969 Рік тому +505

    I like how Harlan wanted to make a game that couldn’t be won, but instead, one that you could “lose better.” I’ve played the game, it’s a masterpiece. I wish there were more game that don’t have “happy endings,” but endings where you “lose better.”

    • @Todarain
      @Todarain Рік тому +27

      I think Ellion operated under the misunderstanding of believing winning games to be the same as achieving a good ending. That just isn't true, a game is considered 'won' when you complete the main narrative, no matter if the ending is tragic or uplifting.
      It's fine that he didn't know this, his field of expertise was writing books and not games. It doesn't matter anyways, because IHNMAIMS is still one of the most narratively challenging games of all time and I believe he achieved most of what he wanted to express.

    • @duncelp1290
      @duncelp1290 Рік тому +9

      Cry of Fear fits the bill for "losing better" endings

    • @booooooooooooop2172
      @booooooooooooop2172 7 місяців тому +6

      Cyberpunk

    • @djpor2000
      @djpor2000 5 місяців тому +1

      Dwarf Fortress, Losing is Fun!

    • @rubub8455
      @rubub8455 4 місяці тому +1

      bloodborne

  • @armandj.8864
    @armandj.8864 2 роки тому +322

    Don't understand all the comments saying HE is crazy or angry. He had a point of view that he expressed clearly and forcefully, and that's rarer and rarer these days.

    • @josephshriner2850
      @josephshriner2850 6 місяців тому +40

      God forbid a creative person is passionate or particular.

    • @localgrassfieldboneshandler
      @localgrassfieldboneshandler 5 місяців тому +15

      Well he channelled his anger into creative literature, art. I channel my anger into dreams.

    • @potts11037
      @potts11037 2 місяці тому +4

      exactly. even if you don’t agree with his sentiment, it’s admirable. and look at all of his amazing works.

    • @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
      @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Місяць тому

      It’s just people having fun, get that stick out of your ass, please and thank you with sugar on top.

  • @drsPascalsArchive
    @drsPascalsArchive 3 роки тому +373

    I love how he thought video games were trash but he still worked on one.

    • @canismajoris6733
      @canismajoris6733 2 роки тому

      They were trash back then.

    • @happymcdull-4209
      @happymcdull-4209 Рік тому +22

      Like the creator of The Witcher. And then he changed his mind, and was in full support of the show

    • @Todarain
      @Todarain Рік тому +65

      Props to him though, he tried more than others did to get into gaming by actually making one, he's earned the right to say he doesn't like 'em

    • @THECOSMONAUT100
      @THECOSMONAUT100 4 місяці тому +7

      The dude probably played the Jurassic Park point and click game so I can't say I blame him. Might as well have introduced him to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for the NES and told him "this is what video games are."

    • @richardv.2475
      @richardv.2475 4 місяці тому +7

      When Harlan started writing sci-fi stories in his youth, American sci-fi was crap. Literally, turd. And look at his home, it was like a junkyard. So one can observe he was not really repelled by trash, no, not at all, quite the opposite ...

  • @yintoons7807
    @yintoons7807 Рік тому +160

    He sounds mean at times yet very passionate,it's interesting to listen him speak.

  • @victoriasargent7252
    @victoriasargent7252 Рік тому +320

    I was a close friend of Harlan’s from 1975 until his death. Underneath his abrasiveness and very sharp delivery, he was a kind and gentle soul. He loved dogs and most children!

    • @predeterminedmeat5024
      @predeterminedmeat5024 Рік тому +13

      Most?

    • @totallyclubbin
      @totallyclubbin Рік тому +64

      most is a good caveat - anyone that says they love “all” anything - is probably being disingenuous

    • @Ayahuasca98
      @Ayahuasca98 Рік тому +41

      @@predeterminedmeat5024some kids can be malicious and must be dealt with in self defense

    • @Timmy-fy9xl
      @Timmy-fy9xl 11 місяців тому +3

      He had to have known most "KKK" and "far-right" people are actually FBI informants. This is so fake.

    • @topdamagewizard
      @topdamagewizard 7 місяців тому +25

      Oh you can tell. He's a guy who made peace with his mortality and wanted to cut through the BS to make the most of his time. I'm autistic so I get him. CAN WE GET TO THE POINT ALREADY 😊!

  • @topdamagewizard
    @topdamagewizard 7 місяців тому +100

    I understand his hatred of video games at the time. He was just ahead of the curve. He would love Metal Gear, Dark Souls, etc.

    • @THECOSMONAUT100
      @THECOSMONAUT100 4 місяці тому +45

      The poor guy was forced to sit through the god damned point and click jurassic park game. I would hate life if I was forced to experience that.

    • @TheAlbinoBaskerville
      @TheAlbinoBaskerville 17 днів тому +1

      Oh shit, Dark souls is probably the closest thing he is describing. The only thing he'll probably say is how it's too flashy

    • @papabigjoe7914
      @papabigjoe7914 3 години тому

      @@TheAlbinoBaskervilleI’m not disagreeing with you but why would he like dark souls

  • @CharuzuAutomatonArtificer
    @CharuzuAutomatonArtificer 8 місяців тому +40

    He's so passionate, it's such an interesting to listen to his point of view.

  • @Denver_Risley
    @Denver_Risley 6 років тому +561

    Hearing Ellison exclaim, "Yo mamma!" made my day.

    • @Joel-ik3sz
      @Joel-ik3sz 4 роки тому +16

      I would like the comment but the it's at 69. So

  • @snowlabradorffn
    @snowlabradorffn Рік тому +47

    Parts of this interview crack me up - I love how he hated video games, yet created a masterpiece one.

  • @Tarkus-Ivalice-dweller
    @Tarkus-Ivalice-dweller 5 років тому +768

    "Why do a computer game based on no mouth?"
    "Well STUPID, because somebody asked me to do it"

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 років тому +19

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @infiniteoctopaw
      @infiniteoctopaw 9 місяців тому +20

      Intervewer: "Understandable, have a good day, sir."

  • @williamwebb580
    @williamwebb580 Рік тому +32

    His comment about upsetting parents' groups is one of the most based things I've ever heard.

  • @YukoValis
    @YukoValis 6 років тому +200

    You will always be immortalized to me as AM himself.

  • @psychodiver
    @psychodiver 5 років тому +163

    Wisconsin cheese, flavored tampons, the comment on Wolfenstein...this might the most maddening, yet enlightening, interview by Harlan that stimulates the mind with his responses.

    • @BlakJav
      @BlakJav 2 роки тому +3

      @@ShinGarugamesh "AI still exactly the same as 30 years ago" go back to the 90s and try using a deep learning AI, my guy... you are wrong

  • @akshennum3752
    @akshennum3752 Рік тому +22

    Love how he gives such a detailed and passionate description of why there is cheese in Wisconsin.

  • @weird-manYT
    @weird-manYT 2 роки тому +73

    I was high on medication when I first encountered gameplay footage of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. It disturbed and terrified the crap out of me. I'd like to think if I told Ellison that he would reply, "Good".

  • @melted900
    @melted900 Рік тому +55

    In a weird way, I feel like the game Undertale by Toby Fox would have pleased Ellison. It's another game where your morality greatly affects the outcome, and that's a huge portion of what the game play is centered around.

    • @candicejokegetanystupider6804
      @candicejokegetanystupider6804 4 місяці тому +15

      He was alive for three years after it released. Did he play it? Almost certainly not. But it is in the realm of possibility that he could have heard about it, which I find delightful.

    • @Tribophopic
      @Tribophopic Місяць тому +4

      He would hate its cloying message about morality in a world of literal monsters. But then again he loved the holocaust.

  • @martindagoat3909
    @martindagoat3909 5 років тому +588

    This dude is my favorite boomer.

    • @malhare7556
      @malhare7556 3 роки тому +26

      He is getting a boomer pass from me

    • @amanalone3473
      @amanalone3473 3 роки тому +64

      Actually Harlan was Silent Gen

    • @idlehour
      @idlehour 3 роки тому +12

      He's cool af

    • @pmc4life
      @pmc4life 3 роки тому +8

      I'll never understand why you guys call people boomers. Its honestly just cringe

    • @martindagoat3909
      @martindagoat3909 3 роки тому +15

      @@pmc4life use your head.

  • @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ
    @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Рік тому +44

    Funnily enough, he was right. A game that you cannot win but lose more ...softly or better as he said was a good idea, in fact in today's age it would be a hit and that is why it has gained so much recognition the last 5 years

    • @dosnostalgic
      @dosnostalgic  Рік тому +5

      Yeah, and then Return to Monkey Island comes out that challenges the notion of videogame endings, and 2/3rds of player base bitch about it for months afterwards. 🤷

  • @budakbaongsiah
    @budakbaongsiah Рік тому +18

    The full version of this interview might just be the best interview of all time. Even in this chopped-up state it's still so fun to watch and went everywhere and nowhere!
    Also love this guy working with a medium he didn't like and still commited enough effort to it that it became one of the most profound game of all time.

  • @Sumschmuck
    @Sumschmuck 5 років тому +133

    From malevolent AI to Wisconsin cheese. Harlan Ellison is the very definition of profound insanity

  • @hobihope2981
    @hobihope2981 4 роки тому +68

    The fact that he had a hand in the game makes me want to play it now. I originally thought some company was just profiting off of one of the most popular short stories of all time without consulting the author.

    • @almamater489
      @almamater489 3 роки тому +23

      I'm glad he didn't let them even think about the sequel

  • @MelancoliaI
    @MelancoliaI Рік тому +14

    He's absolutely right about books in saying that they are interactive. With the book, the onus of time is on you, the onus of visualizing things is on you, but you're rewarded because you have to put forth effort.

  • @DatCameraMON
    @DatCameraMON 2 роки тому +19

    I just want to see the raw footage so bad. I'm just enthralled listening to him speak.

  • @Ayahuasca98
    @Ayahuasca98 4 роки тому +74

    7:22 hearing AM say Donkey Kong is so fucking unreal

  • @SuPeRNinJaRed
    @SuPeRNinJaRed 5 років тому +99

    They even got a question in about the OJ trial... this is probably one of the most insane interviews I've ever seen! LOLOL

    • @user-cb4vt3qm3j
      @user-cb4vt3qm3j 4 роки тому +28

      Personally I think that Harlan just started digressing and ranting at some points and editors picked some of the juicer bits and added titles before those as if those were questions.

    • @dannyo3611
      @dannyo3611 10 місяців тому +4

      Bro 💀 and I love the question about cheese in Wisconsin. Bro goes IN on it

  • @JimmyExtreme7204
    @JimmyExtreme7204 4 місяці тому +9

    "Wolfenstein is absolutely demented" - the guy who wrote I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream

  • @martindagoat3909
    @martindagoat3909 5 років тому +84

    How the hell did they go from describing characters to asking him if oj did it😂😂😂

  • @antiproductive4131
    @antiproductive4131 Рік тому +32

    So tell us about the character Gorrister
    - No

  • @Bogdan_Gordin
    @Bogdan_Gordin 6 років тому +148

    Now I wanna play this game. I was putting it off cause it kept weirding me out. Rest in peace Harlan.

    • @hYBRYDcOBRA
      @hYBRYDcOBRA 6 років тому +11

      I'm about halfway thorough it right now and it really is a wonderfully unique game in a good way.

    • @Bogdan_Gordin
      @Bogdan_Gordin 6 років тому

      hYBRYDcOBRA Oh cool thanks.

    • @hYBRYDcOBRA
      @hYBRYDcOBRA 6 років тому

      Bogdan Gordin np bro

    • @mokenetgumshoe1064
      @mokenetgumshoe1064 5 років тому +6

      At the very least watch someone play it. It is truly art.

    • @jordanmcdonald4291
      @jordanmcdonald4291 3 роки тому +2

      listen to the audiobook first it's on youtube and it's only 40 minutes.

  • @one-cardpony460
    @one-cardpony460 2 роки тому +25

    Years later, this game holds up as one of the most shocking. I wish he got to make it exactly how he wanted, but at least the good ending is really hard to get.

    • @Terunidai
      @Terunidai 2 роки тому +2

      Indeed. Especially if you want to get the good ending with someone that isn’t nimdok

  • @Blue-jy4rf
    @Blue-jy4rf 7 місяців тому +8

    "What better fun is there than to frustrate game players?" We have this man to blame for roguelites.

  • @SuperLordHawHaw
    @SuperLordHawHaw 4 роки тому +43

    I wish they didn't keep cutting off his replies.
    "Raspberry flavored tampons" lol

  • @13lbs47
    @13lbs47 2 роки тому +8

    This man is now my favorite person now,

  • @resort-anthem
    @resort-anthem 6 років тому +96

    Interesting how he mentioned the old Wolfenstein, because Wolfenstein 2 was very story based. Really shows the evolution.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 років тому +2

      👏👏👏

    • @bigboysdotcom745
      @bigboysdotcom745 4 роки тому +12

      Making a game "story based" doesnt make the writing good or any less a waste of time

    • @jesusgonzales9403
      @jesusgonzales9403 2 роки тому +3

      @@bigboysdotcom745 how is playing a game any more of a waste of time then reading a book?

    • @reginaldforthright805
      @reginaldforthright805 2 роки тому +2

      @@jesusgonzales9403 you have to use your imagination with a book. Some old games, pc games mostly, required you to use your head, but it’s a rare thing nowadays. Games like botw and elden ring are decent, but most are a waste of time.

  • @NightDawnDusk
    @NightDawnDusk 7 місяців тому +19

    This guy has so much rage lmao

  • @magicmanscott40k
    @magicmanscott40k 6 років тому +50

    I just discovered this author and everything he says is pure gold to me I could listen to him forever. The game great and the book is amazing. Just learned about him but love everything so far

  • @citrusblast4372
    @citrusblast4372 Рік тому +5

    the way hes complaining about turned baseball caps, someting about it resonated with me

  • @williamsanders2439
    @williamsanders2439 2 місяці тому +3

    Say this about Mr Ellison...he wasn't boring.
    He was abrasive and in your face...but he was a very talented writer. Surprisingly few of his works have translated into other media in relation to his contemporaries, like Bradbury, Dick, or Asimov...just to name a few examples.

  • @fatumteam
    @fatumteam 5 років тому +43

    Finally, I know why they produce cheese in Wisconsin.

  • @theirbrotherhoodandfriends6101
    @theirbrotherhoodandfriends6101 3 роки тому +7

    I'm grateful I found his story suggested by someone on the comment section. He's so real. I love the way he answers the questions.

  • @robodress4051
    @robodress4051 2 місяці тому +9

    "What can you say about the character of Gorrister?" "Idk." Love this man.

  • @bloominjooj7541
    @bloominjooj7541 5 років тому +111

    Ellison sounds very much like a mad man. He sounds like he is always angry and frustrated at something he cannot (or can) tell. Maybe that’s one of the factors behind his nihilism and cynicism.

    • @smiley4995
      @smiley4995 5 років тому +16

      Almost like AM lol

    • @lastmanstanding7155
      @lastmanstanding7155 5 років тому +8

      @Fuzzy McBabyHead
      Blunt people have it rough dog. I'm not exactly in the same boat as my personality is different but my "frankness" and forward way of approach cuases confusion with people who don't know me well and so I get called similar names.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 років тому +1

      Yuuuup

    • @fredfungalspore
      @fredfungalspore 5 років тому +10

      You will find people who live on the edge of madness have very high interlect and IQ... There brain is hard wired different that makes them to the masses look Mad

    • @teamjacob2388
      @teamjacob2388 4 роки тому +4

      PerrySport no bro. We’re not crying bc we can’t endure your righteous fortitude... you’re just an ass 😂😂

  • @Enigmatic_Lurker
    @Enigmatic_Lurker 3 роки тому +15

    Oof.. Listening to this interview without reading the interviewer cards is like having a late night conversation with my alcoholic father.

  • @billycrystalsyndrome
    @billycrystalsyndrome 5 років тому +35

    Ellison is constantly at 11 LOL

  • @lindanorris2455
    @lindanorris2455 4 місяці тому +3

    HARLAN COME BACK, PLEASE COME BACK!

  • @infiniteoctopaw
    @infiniteoctopaw 9 місяців тому +4

    Tho i disagree with him about video games being trash, but i respect every word out of him. I see why he lived so long, not a second did that fire fade.

  • @jiryensaber6090
    @jiryensaber6090 3 роки тому +20

    Love him or Hate him - He made a lot of great stuff, from sci-fi stories to how he thinks, which is usually on full display. You always know where he stands and tells it like it is. I'd rather talk to someone that tells you exactly what they think of you, even if we agree to disagree, then so lots of others like the typical YES MAN or NO MAAM (Al Bundy for President!) that just pretend to be nice and act helpful when they certainly are not. You know, the ones who smile in front of you and then talk behind your back and laugh at you. Not this guy.
    Also, if anyone is a Star Trek fan, he wrote one of the best episodes from the original series. "City on the Edge of Forever." So he can imagine and write some amazing stories, from the heart or even pain, like he says. He's pulled from some very personal things for that.
    As a fellow writer, I can certainly agree from that. One of the best guides in Writing is "Write what you know" and let the Genre and Medium come later. What type of story are you going to tell? The rest can develop around it, like a character in its own right.
    Also, if you have read the short story or listened to the audio book 1st and then play the game, its really something deep and philisophical, shocking but stays with you, beautiful and yet tragic. Very deep stuff in the game and especially after reading (or listening) to the original story, it really connects. Both the audio book and some play-thrus for the game are here on youtube. The short story is only about 30 minutes or so? But its worth it. Then go check the game out. There are ones with or without commentary, your choice.
    You'll certainly walk away, as he has said, with something on your mind and something to think about.

    • @jimlabos
      @jimlabos 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for describing him much more eloquently than I could have. He was just who he was and expected everyone else to be who they were. If you didn't then too bad for you, life is too short and I think Ellison just did not suffer fools. In any case the proof is in the pudding. Read his work not his personality. Reading Ellison brings your level of Sci Fi quality taste to a pinnacle. After that a lot of the Sci Fi on the screen or paper will become mediocre in your mind. Be warned.

  • @SP-ny1fk
    @SP-ny1fk 3 роки тому +10

    “A book must be the axe for the frozen sea within us.”
    ― Franz Kafka

  • @zedoctor3724
    @zedoctor3724 2 роки тому +7

    I really wish Ellison would have been in charge of more games other than this one. A dude with such a chip on his shoulder against the medium would have been extremely fascinating to see make the games he wants to make.

  • @Birdboy4
    @Birdboy4 9 місяців тому +3

    To anyone upset about the editing on this video: the I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream strategy guide has a more extensive interview (possibly a longer version of this exact one? Unsure though.) It can be found on the internet archive, right at the end of the book

  • @pink_alligator
    @pink_alligator 4 роки тому +18

    4:14 I did not expect this much sass to come from the man who wrote what he wrote xD

  • @chrysallicide8988
    @chrysallicide8988 5 років тому +29

    I really wish there was more interviews, this guy is an awesome character

    • @dosnostalgic
      @dosnostalgic  5 років тому +16

      Check out the documentary "Dreams With Sharp Teeth" if you haven't already.

    • @smart422
      @smart422 3 роки тому +1

      guy is just a jerk

    • @Nov-5062
      @Nov-5062 2 роки тому +11

      @@smart422 he's arrogant for sure and kinda rude, but I find him quite fascinating.

    • @fucheduck
      @fucheduck Рік тому +4

      @@smart422 his honesty arrogant or not may save the world one day.

  • @josephspann991
    @josephspann991 5 років тому +28

    I love and fear this man.

  • @dysfallacyyt
    @dysfallacyyt 12 днів тому +1

    i like at 9:07 he has friendship, but you can tell by his tone and wording that he almost regrets it and tries to make it sound more mature by using words like “brutality” and “degeneracy”

  • @Joao.Benitez
    @Joao.Benitez 8 місяців тому +2

    Man, this interview is simply delightful! The whole backwards cap mumble could be a Seinfeld routine.

  • @pineapplesdonotbelongonpizza
    @pineapplesdonotbelongonpizza 5 місяців тому +11

    brother was yapping so much every question was answered with a deep breath the editior was fighting him lol

  • @goeblaubagan8407
    @goeblaubagan8407 4 роки тому +181

    Ellison was one of the most gifted sci fi writers but has the most pretentious and abrasive personality.

    • @funnylittlecreature
      @funnylittlecreature 4 роки тому +23

      He seems kind of snobby, but from what I've seen, he's not a terrible person, which is good, I guess.

    • @funnylittlecreature
      @funnylittlecreature 4 роки тому +8

      Nvm he fucking sucks goddamn

    • @SDBR8170
      @SDBR8170 4 роки тому +15

      @@funnylittlecreature After watching the interview, I don't think so. But he was quite rude tho.

    • @ripgutcat
      @ripgutcat 4 роки тому +20

      He's just aggressive and brash like Quentin Tarantino

    • @andrewboxall2945
      @andrewboxall2945 3 роки тому +20

      He was protecting his creation as far as I can tell. Nothing wrong with being opinionated

  • @fotakatos
    @fotakatos 6 років тому +18

    Rest in peace, Harlan. Watching this video now almost makes me tear up. He was a truly unique writer and person.

  • @dreamingnihilist653
    @dreamingnihilist653 5 років тому +5

    Love these answers, high respect for this man

  • @ComradeVissarionovic
    @ComradeVissarionovic 3 роки тому +7

    RIP. This short story was disturbing but excellent. You can sort of tell it was written in one night though. Lol about the game too, imagine if the only option was being turned into a slimy, featureless monster. Existential torture.

  • @vincentlorusso689
    @vincentlorusso689 Рік тому +1

    This man is incredible. Thank you so much for this video.

  • @Burukop
    @Burukop Рік тому

    Such an incredible idea for a short story, and executed so brilliantly. One of, if not THE greatest science fiction short story ever.

  • @josieconroy9177
    @josieconroy9177 5 місяців тому +2

    Harlan Ellison is definitely a writer that grounds his audience even with his views on the world we live in

  • @g3nj1
    @g3nj1 3 роки тому +86

    I've never seen a man so simultaneously based and intelligent while also missing the target.

    • @ohitsstar1241
      @ohitsstar1241 2 роки тому +2

      Where does he miss the target specifically?

    • @RickySteels
      @RickySteels 2 роки тому +12

      @@ohitsstar1241 Very archaic thoughts on video games lol. He’s one of my favourite authors and I love the man but can’t say I agree with him.

    • @ohitsstar1241
      @ohitsstar1241 2 роки тому +12

      @@RickySteels he takes it to the extreme yeah, but in principle he makes a few good points.

    • @RickySteels
      @RickySteels 2 роки тому +15

      @@ohitsstar1241 in principle yes, but he goes a little too hard on the violent video games are turning kids into violent psychopaths lol. People said the same thing about books, movies and comics too. Honestly I think Harlan was so outspoken that his points could sometimes contradict previous things he said. Which is fine, we all do it. I admire his confidence in what he says at the end of the day. This man did not give a fuck what other people thought.

    • @ohitsstar1241
      @ohitsstar1241 2 роки тому +3

      @@RickySteels yeah exactly

  • @dismith73
    @dismith73 2 роки тому +2

    Harlan Jay Ellison May 27, 1934 - June 28, 2018

  • @MegaAniLinkFan
    @MegaAniLinkFan Рік тому +11

    7:31
    I am quoting this when people defend AI generated pictures as 'art.'

    • @LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus
      @LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus 3 місяці тому

      It is art, deal with it. Art can be literally anything. The only attack you antis have is gatekeeping which will inevitably fail. You lot tried to gatekeep photographers in the 1800s saying 'it's too easy! it's not real art!!!!!'.
      Losers.

  • @Minecraftgaming2632
    @Minecraftgaming2632 2 місяці тому +3

    BRRRROOOO W Harlan Ellison

  • @Melvinshermen
    @Melvinshermen 5 років тому +6

    Harlan ellison is Guy that is basic the internet before the internet thing

  • @calvinware7957
    @calvinware7957 3 роки тому +2

    This dudes quote about the nature of a game is great in hindsight with how far video games have become

  • @toysoldiernerio7172
    @toysoldiernerio7172 4 роки тому +17

    I think Harlan Ellison would like Planescape Torment, Disco Elysieum, Pathologic 2. and other titles like them.

    • @brofistbro
      @brofistbro 4 роки тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @brofistbro
      @brofistbro 11 місяців тому

      For sure BioShock, tell tale games, a lot of ethics games.

  • @grantbiteman306
    @grantbiteman306 6 років тому +15

    6:38, well we learned he likes to punch typewriters.

  • @cloudtx
    @cloudtx 3 роки тому +7

    I think he would've enjoyed the genre of point 'n click adventure games which I suppose his game fits in. I think he was a case of a person of an older generation who simply had not much contact with videogames and became disinterested in them due to what was popular at the time.

  • @jimholesaw6597
    @jimholesaw6597 3 роки тому +2

    A true free thinker. Viewpoints i wouldnt necessarily agree with, but viewpoints that are very respectable

  • @borisb1838
    @borisb1838 Рік тому +1

    One of the best book's I ever read!

  • @Ninhotep
    @Ninhotep 2 роки тому +5

    The Terminator and Fallout franchises wouldn’t exist without this guy, kinda sad that he almost certainly wouldn’t be able to appreciate them but it makes sense, he was from a different era

  • @ethangonzalez8904
    @ethangonzalez8904 3 роки тому +6

    This guy has such a goddamn amazing voice. Gives me Brain vibes from Animaniacs

  • @mokenetgumshoe1064
    @mokenetgumshoe1064 5 років тому +6

    Is the longer interview on youtube? What a brilliant guy.

  • @Valerio_the_wandering_sprite
    @Valerio_the_wandering_sprite 4 роки тому +5

    You know, reading this short story for the first time has deeply changed my view on immortality and death and helped me to understand the silliness of a afterlife according to the world's largest religions. Our mind isn't suited to comprehend large numbers, let alone an eternal existence beyond the grave in a place where the conception of time ends, or worse, is backed up by endless tortures. Continuing to exist without knowing what do next or if there will be an "after" is pointless, if not utterly terrifying. Especially after finding out Ted's ultimate date, I'd rather welcome death as an old friend" and accept eternal oblivion than taking my chances and risking to end up in "I have no mouth and I must scream" scenarios 🐌😱. Would you do the same?

    • @louisj2256
      @louisj2256 3 роки тому

      Definitely. Although I've heard a lot of religious people claim that it is your "soul" that goes on to live forever, which may imply that it's not your human mind or personality that continues into the afterlife, but some other aspect of you. So maybe it wouldn't be so bad to live forever as long as you, as a creature, were altered heavily enough to be able to live like that, with only some essential aspect of you being the constant feature throughout your eternal life - like how you don't die with the same atoms you're born with. The atoms simply form into the shape of you and are shed and replaced constantly. Maybe this life is just one form that the eternal "soul" takes. I don't think that's the case, but it's an interesting idea

  • @TheLowBrassDude
    @TheLowBrassDude 6 років тому +21

    I think a better question would have been, do you write to shock and by extension make your audience think, rather than just for shock value?

  • @slusheewolf2143
    @slusheewolf2143 4 роки тому +6

    This interview is so different from most interviews I've watched for anything in general. Alot of things in this interview are actually educational outside the context of IHNMAIMS, or are at least something that makes you think. It's not "Hello person, how's your day?" "How did you enjoy your role in x movie and was it hard?". No, this interview is rigid, difficult to digest, and educated. I love this so much and I wish interviewees nowadays had minds like this.

  • @TestInformatyka
    @TestInformatyka 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this interview so much!

  • @michaeldoef198
    @michaeldoef198 4 місяці тому

    I read 4 or 5 books a week and do not play video games and Ellison did shock me as a teenager and I have read it all since

  • @bobdeinterlace
    @bobdeinterlace 4 роки тому +6

    "Wolfensteen"
    Almost got it right!

  • @connor7342
    @connor7342 5 років тому +13

    Hey Guys, im a new Ellison fan, always more of a Stephen King and Shaun Hudson fan previously but i came across this guys name when searching for post apocalyptic material and i watch A boy and his Dog, loved it and then went on to read the short story which i loved more because of how much darker it came off. i heard his name connected to The Terminator (which i still need to resereach) and through out my life i always heard the phrase "I have no mouth and i must scream" which led me hear, looking forward to this Ellison journey.

    • @Pimp-Master
      @Pimp-Master 5 років тому +3

      Jefty is Five,
      A powerful, surprising story from him.
      He also wrote one of the most beloved Star Trek’s of all time that also happened to involve time travelers from the future fixing the past so that the future can exist.
      Hey where have I heard that before? Oh yeah that James Cameron movie...

    • @jimlabos
      @jimlabos 3 роки тому

      Research his works. He is one of the best if not best Sci Fi writers. If you like more tha just robots and starships etc. and like Sci Fi that makes you think then you find one of the best at that genre. Many others out there especially from his era.

    • @reginaldforthright805
      @reginaldforthright805 2 роки тому

      @@jimlabos how good of a writer can he be if he didn’t write novels?

    • @jamesjameson4303
      @jamesjameson4303 2 роки тому

      @@reginaldforthright805 what a totally ignorant comment. Ellison would have tore you to shreds intellectually. Obviously you were too busy playing video games all day and night and you could not be bothered looking at his bibliography. Do you even know what a bibliography is? How is your reading skill? What maybe at the level of a 3rd grader? Don't bother reading him then you would not understand. Wait until your brain cells grow a bit more and then maybe you will get his writings.
      Go away and go play your video games or read your comic books now.

  • @catiguess1807
    @catiguess1807 6 днів тому +2

    3:04 *_”b u u h”_*
    i would sell my kidney to spend 15 minutes with harlan

  • @wk1247
    @wk1247 2 роки тому +3

    They clearly never played dwarf fortress at that time.

  • @libertiesbreathe5014
    @libertiesbreathe5014 4 роки тому +6

    3:01 made my night "Duuhhh."

  • @dysfallacyyt
    @dysfallacyyt 12 днів тому +1

    damn besides his intellect hes very passive aggressive in a nice way. rip. and also kinda attractive

  • @MachineElf_Official
    @MachineElf_Official 3 роки тому +15

    This guy has great political takes but bad gaming takes lol. Best boomer, fucking awesome writer

    • @reginaldforthright805
      @reginaldforthright805 2 роки тому +2

      He seems a little overly focused on the “far right,” and can’t get over the Holocaust, even though the nazis were far left 🤷‍♂️

    • @MachineElf_Official
      @MachineElf_Official 2 роки тому

      @@reginaldforthright805 The nazis were far right, there's really no argument to be had here, the literal only argument you could make is "the nazis had the word 'socialist' in their name, therefore they're leftists." There isn't anything you could really point to that the nazis actually did that is in line with them being far left. They even sought out and killed socialists and communists. So I don't really understand why you would think that they're far left unless you're only looking at the name "national socialist."

    • @Lmemn
      @Lmemn 2 роки тому

      @@reginaldforthright805 lmao sure and the Chinese are socialists

    • @mirjana5514
      @mirjana5514 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@reginaldforthright805How in the ever loving shit were the Nazis far left?

    • @oofym353
      @oofym353 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@reginaldforthright805 Grow up, Fascism is inheritly far right.

  • @lukalapadat92
    @lukalapadat92 10 місяців тому +2

    8:35 Hit the nail on the head with that one

  • @padraigmaclochlainn8866
    @padraigmaclochlainn8866 2 роки тому +2

    If Ellison could have seen Ancestors, the human kind odyssey, he would have said "okay I may have been a tiny bit wrong

  • @xXskulsaXx
    @xXskulsaXx 22 дні тому +1

    Bro wanted the first dark souls

  • @screw_tape
    @screw_tape 2 роки тому +2

    i guess he got what he wanted in terms of games with morals, storytelling and requirement of thought and not just power fantasies

  • @liammeech3702
    @liammeech3702 6 місяців тому +8

    Imagine how netflix would messed with the book if they adapted it

    • @dosnostalgic
      @dosnostalgic  6 місяців тому +4

      It's 13 pages long. It's a short story, not a book.

    • @liammeech3702
      @liammeech3702 6 місяців тому +6

      @@dosnostalgic wouldn't stop netflix

  • @AbsentMindSal
    @AbsentMindSal 6 років тому +3

    Fucking Harlan, you're as crazy as I imagined you.
    Good stuff

  • @sirhcortsac5082
    @sirhcortsac5082 6 місяців тому +3

    This guys would have loved half-life.

  • @WeOnlyEatSoup
    @WeOnlyEatSoup 2 роки тому

    Love this interview

  • @topdamagewizard
    @topdamagewizard 7 місяців тому +2

    I understand what H.E. wanted from the game. And i think it would have still worked. But having the "moon" ending was a good compromise. It doesn't lose its soul with a "good ending".

    • @Nov-5062
      @Nov-5062 6 місяців тому +2

      Having a good ending to IHNMAIMS, the most hopeless and depressing story in the world,makes no sense.
      And even if you get to the "moon people are dead" option they just go back to life in the good ending like nothing happened.
      They should've embraced Ellison's approach of making the game unwinnable, I personally would've appreciated it much more for that.