Ive been looking all over the internet for a video explaining each cam thankx man this has helped me alot to ubderstand i have 4m cam for lines amd 3.25 for shadeing 🎉
Having been "apprenticed" with a sink or swim mentality, no one had actually broke this down for me. Its embarrassing to go back to basics and realize there are things i dont fully understand - i really appreciate you breaking this all the way down, man
Hi there I was looking at the course you have on the website and I wanted to know if that applies for CT ? I have a little brother that needs to get his license and I wanted to know if this will help since it’s very hard to do the apprenticeship here in Connecticut.
This is a helpful explanation, and your infographic on the website is great too, thank you. I know you do reviews of machines all the time but I am overwhelmed with my first-time buy. I want to do this for a living as a serious artist, but have a very limited starting budget. What is your first recommendation as the best affordable ($200-$500) wireless adjustable-stroke pen machine? And if I can't afford the adjustable stroke, what stroke is the best option for learning a range of things (keeping in mind that lining and packing are what I'm more interested in). Is 4.0mm too big for smaller needle groups and thinner line work? Or can I adjust the voltage down to accommodate? Lots of questions, grateful for any feedback.
Hey, I just bought the Peak Solice Pro. It's a fairly new machine on the market. Works amazing, I like it even more than the FK iron flux which was 3x the price.
Very2 informative, the standard stroke 3.5mm is an all round stroke, but if you're tattooing for a living with shops and well known like Brandon, 3.5mm is not the only option, longer strokes gives you that ommph in a tattoo, expecially big bold lines, the 14 and above will do that in one pass line without chewing up the skin in a 5mm, packing for 4.2-4.5mm, and the 4mm for me atleast is the universal stroke for me using the CNC Police SEM/CM cartridges, for B&G realism, the shorter stroke is the best option, but please don't try to use the voltage Mr.Over is using, because he has a very fast handspeed, high end tattoo artist with decades of experience, find that right voltage for you using practice/fake skins 🤘🏻
Its been a while from this video so I don't know if I will get an aswer, but I have one question: as far as I understood, you shoul use a medium/short stroke for realism, but, what if you have to fill "big" areas with pure black or if you are tattoing with opaque grey mixed tones? should I think of it as color packing and switch to a longer stroke or could Ijust stay with a 3.5 one-in-all? Thanks for anyone replying!
Do you sometimes lower the stroke and voltage if you go over thin skin like inner ball of ankle or just lower voltage? If you do, what stroke and voltage do you use on somewhere extremely thin
Hello Brandon 👋🏻 I don’t usually comment on anyone’s social media platforms but I had to with yours. I have to say a big thank you for everything your doing you’ve literally helped me out massively never been happier learning the ropes of tattooing. This might be long shot but I done my first tattoo the other day and was wondering is there anywhere private I could send it to you an get some feedback from you on if theirs anything I need to do differently and if it’s any good at all? Thank you again keep it up 👍🏻
You should sign up for their artist Accelerator Program. It's pretty amazing... you also gain access to critique(constructive criticism) from alumni and the other folks that run tattoo 101. Their all excellent teachers and expert level artists.
I used to tattoo with my stigma-rotary bizzare and hyper machines ,they are great and profi machines. Recently I bought dragonhawk fold pro ,with the adjustable stroke ,even though dragonhawk is not high end producer ,this machine is a game changer. Being able to adjust stroke and needle depth so precisely means everything to the quality of ones tattooing, and it makes process so much easier.
I'm so stressed trying to pick a machine.... I tried cheepee's 6 or 8 years ago, didn't like them, couldnt shade for nothing, I felt like the "lines" were 7 tiny lines instead of 1 solid line. I would like to stay under $300 for everything but i also dont want to waste $250 on a DragonHawk if $40 Wormhole is the same quality. I dont want to waste $ on a cheap machine if a quality machine would "make my tattoos turn out better". I want to try to teach my 12yo daughter to tattoo & dont want her to get discouraged by sub-par equipment. Youre the only artist i seen recommended the EZTAT2 machine, is it noticeably better than DragonHawk/Wormhole??😭
I would say so far the biggest concern with those 2 machines that you mentioned is the longevity of the machine. I've seen many people say it stopped working or had little problems come up within the span of a few months, however there are also tons of people that have had no issues with their machines. Why I would recommend the EZ tattoo machines that I've tried is because they ran perfectly fine and had enough power to push big liners with no issues. For me the price to quality ratio gives you good value.
My main issue with these high end pens, we have the technology to have adjustable stroke but they choose to make more money. Companies like Axys Rotary were able to make a high power machine with adjustable stroke, but the big guys are greedy so we need 3 pens $3000+ .....crazy
Thank you for all of the insight! I have three machines I use daily my Cheyenne hawk thunder at 4mm then two CNC x we plus machines set at 3mm and 3.5 mm I love the Cheyenne for lining and color packing though. You are definitely right if you you don’t know what your doing the the longer stroke will destroy some skin
I have a thunder but recent bought a spirit (I'm an apprentice) not sure if i should keep the spirit2.5? as I also have the hawk pen 3.5. What positives are there to having a 2.5 in my arsonal? I got the thunder as the hawk pen wasn't lining on tougher skin. My mentor recommend the thunder and it really worked but still doesn't do big liners that great. They say you can shade and fill with the spirit what does fill mean is it packing?
Wait, are you sure a lower stroke hits more times per second than a higher stroke at the same voltage? I thought the voltage just changes the RPM, so it would be the same number of hits/strokes per second regardless of stroke length? The centrifugal speed should be the same, but shouldn't the linear speed should be higher for the longer stroke because it travels a farther distance per stroke?
But its not about that, its about how many rotations the cam makes per second. Each rotation is a hit. The question is do lower stroke machines rotate their cams faster, I don't think they do. I'd honestly like to learn a lot more about this specifically because I'm not sure. @merrynothing3204
My understanding is that they hit the same number of times per second, which is why the longer stroke has more punch, it is covering more distance and moving faster. @merrynothing3204
Na, Jonathan is correct, it's the linear speed that's increased and hence the stroke momentum and why it hits harder and doesnt bog. So while this video is mostly informative that is part (6:10ish) is misinformation.
good video! you got one thing wrong tho, and its a common one. different strokes do not make the needle rpm faster or slower. its the same concept as pistons in an engine, what a longer stroke will do is increase dwell time at the top and bottom of the stroke, this means its going to have more time in the tube to pick up ink and more time in the skin to lay the ink down. it does increase power too since the needle is forced to do more work to achieve the same rpm regardless of stroke it has to accelerate faster from the the top of the stroke to the bottom so it will hit with more force. i think understanding this makes for a good argument to use traditional needle on bar setups over carts for lining its going to be able to take advantage of that accelerated force more than a cart can with the break between the plunger bar and the cart. cart machines get loud because of this, the cart cant keep up with the speed of the machine so the machine plunger ends up beating the top of the cart plunger as it hops.
question, is there a difference in coil machine? ive already have a rotary type machine, i just want to know if there's a difference in it. like, some says in coil machine the long stroke is for shading and the shorter stroke is for lining.
appropriate stroke es muy importante lol 😸💯 i wish i could like adjust that on my lil tattoo pen, id like to hang the needle more than i can, when i have the length set how id want, it doesnt retract enough back to pick up the ink... and also sometimes it ends up like excess ink having to be blotted off the skin... its a good lil beginner rig tho
Hand speed and style and voltage matters...but generally 3.2-3.7 r good options. I only go low with super soft realism. Imo 3.5 and a 4.2 is all I really need.
So i bought an ambition storm wand which is a 4.0 stroke and a dragonhawk which is a 3.5. Been thinking about getting the ambition mars u which has the ability to change the stroke, suggestions?
I've also learned longer stroke, you can have more hang for lining. It pulls ink better without spatter. Shorter stroke for shading 2mm hang on a 3mm cam more ink dispensed(but this could be wrong)... I "made"(knifemaker, OCD & many tools, hahaha)an injecta with a cheap Amazon knockoff & everything else replaced with injecta parts(3.0 cam, soft needle bar). At 1st I thought it was too dark, but as it heals, it's pretty good... Thanks for all the help, take it easy.
Oh boy, Brandon. Thank you for this video today! I had a 4 stroke ordered off Amazon and realized it’s the completely wrong stroke for what I want to do!! So I cancelled it in the nick of time! Haha Amen! And then I just happened to be looking into softer stroke machines and had the mast archer in my cart, when I opened the background app and there was your review of it!!! I’m tellin’ ya, I wasn’t long clicking that order button! hahaha what a lucky day! Thank you for being in the right place at the right time!! And for all your solid content!!!! @love.guey 🦋🥹✨🩵
Thanks for once again sharing the sacred information on the practice of tattooing. Bashing down the gates and blowing past the keepers!
The calmest and coolest teacher that explains the things to you and is fun to listen to always!
I’m just getting back into tattooing and you are a great motivation to get better. I appreciate all of your videos
Ive been looking all over the internet for a video explaining each cam thankx man this has helped me alot to ubderstand i have 4m cam for lines amd 3.25 for shadeing 🎉
Having been "apprenticed" with a sink or swim mentality, no one had actually broke this down for me. Its embarrassing to go back to basics and realize there are things i dont fully understand - i really appreciate you breaking this all the way down, man
Hi there I was looking at the course you have on the website and I wanted to know if that applies for CT ? I have a little brother that needs to get his license and I wanted to know if this will help since it’s very hard to do the apprenticeship here in Connecticut.
This is a helpful explanation, and your infographic on the website is great too, thank you.
I know you do reviews of machines all the time but I am overwhelmed with my first-time buy. I want to do this for a living as a serious artist, but have a very limited starting budget. What is your first recommendation as the best affordable ($200-$500) wireless adjustable-stroke pen machine? And if I can't afford the adjustable stroke, what stroke is the best option for learning a range of things (keeping in mind that lining and packing are what I'm more interested in). Is 4.0mm too big for smaller needle groups and thinner line work? Or can I adjust the voltage down to accommodate?
Lots of questions, grateful for any feedback.
Hey, I just bought the Peak Solice Pro. It's a fairly new machine on the market. Works amazing, I like it even more than the FK iron flux which was 3x the price.
you can do everything with an Acus M1
What grip are you using on the injecta? @tattooing101
Very2 informative, the standard stroke 3.5mm is an all round stroke, but if you're tattooing for a living with shops and well known like Brandon, 3.5mm is not the only option, longer strokes gives you that ommph in a tattoo, expecially big bold lines, the 14 and above will do that in one pass line without chewing up the skin in a 5mm, packing for 4.2-4.5mm, and the 4mm for me atleast is the universal stroke for me using the CNC Police SEM/CM cartridges, for B&G realism, the shorter stroke is the best option, but please don't try to use the voltage Mr.Over is using, because he has a very fast handspeed, high end tattoo artist with decades of experience, find that right voltage for you using practice/fake skins 🤘🏻
I hate how so many artist gate keep like a mfker in stuff like tattooing and glass blowing
Man this video is awesome. Do you have videos specifically on the Inkjecta!!
Its been a while from this video so I don't know if I will get an aswer, but I have one question: as far as I understood, you shoul use a medium/short stroke for realism, but, what if you have to fill "big" areas with pure black or if you are tattoing with opaque grey mixed tones? should I think of it as color packing and switch to a longer stroke or could Ijust stay with a 3.5 one-in-all? Thanks for anyone replying!
Do you sometimes lower the stroke and voltage if you go over thin skin like inner ball of ankle or just lower voltage? If you do, what stroke and voltage do you use on somewhere extremely thin
very informative thank you , what is your opinion on variable stroke machines ?
Adjustable or removable cams, or just go coil or Adjustable rotary
Hello Brandon 👋🏻 I don’t usually comment on anyone’s social media platforms but I had to with yours. I have to say a big thank you for everything your doing you’ve literally helped me out massively never been happier learning the ropes of tattooing. This might be long shot but I done my first tattoo the other day and was wondering is there anywhere private I could send it to you an get some feedback from you on if theirs anything I need to do differently and if it’s any good at all? Thank you again keep it up 👍🏻
You should sign up for their artist Accelerator Program. It's pretty amazing... you also gain access to critique(constructive criticism) from alumni and the other folks that run tattoo 101. Their all excellent teachers and expert level artists.
So I'm new, bought a 4 stroke. What's it best suited for? Lining?
Lining and color packing. Shading will chew up clients skin unless you go superrr low voltage like 4-4.5. And only make a couple passes.
apprenticeships on UA-cam university
So a 5 stroke bishop liner would be good for lettering type tattoos right ?
Thus realy is for beginners huh....
I used to tattoo with my stigma-rotary bizzare and hyper machines ,they are great and profi machines. Recently I bought dragonhawk fold pro ,with the adjustable stroke ,even though dragonhawk is not high end producer ,this machine is a game changer. Being able to adjust stroke and needle depth so precisely means everything to the quality of ones tattooing, and it makes process so much easier.
Just got the same machine! So excited
Bishop, holla at me fr...lol 🤑
I'm so stressed trying to pick a machine.... I tried cheepee's 6 or 8 years ago, didn't like them, couldnt shade for nothing, I felt like the "lines" were 7 tiny lines instead of 1 solid line. I would like to stay under $300 for everything but i also dont want to waste $250 on a DragonHawk if $40 Wormhole is the same quality. I dont want to waste $ on a cheap machine if a quality machine would "make my tattoos turn out better". I want to try to teach my 12yo daughter to tattoo & dont want her to get discouraged by sub-par equipment. Youre the only artist i seen recommended the EZTAT2 machine, is it noticeably better than DragonHawk/Wormhole??😭
I would say so far the biggest concern with those 2 machines that you mentioned is the longevity of the machine. I've seen many people say it stopped working or had little problems come up within the span of a few months, however there are also tons of people that have had no issues with their machines.
Why I would recommend the EZ tattoo machines that I've tried is because they ran perfectly fine and had enough power to push big liners with no issues. For me the price to quality ratio gives you good value.
My main issue with these high end pens, we have the technology to have adjustable stroke but they choose to make more money. Companies like Axys Rotary were able to make a high power machine with adjustable stroke, but the big guys are greedy so we need 3 pens $3000+ .....crazy
Acus M1 my friend
This was so incredibly helpful thank you so much for making this video
Thank you for all of the insight! I have three machines I use daily my Cheyenne hawk thunder at 4mm then two CNC x we plus machines set at 3mm and 3.5 mm I love the Cheyenne for lining and color packing though. You are definitely right if you you don’t know what your doing the the longer stroke will destroy some skin
The cheyenne's are solid machines as well!
@@Tattooing101 I am hoping to buy one of the Bishop wands before to long. I do love the Cheyenne though great light weight machine
What is the best stroke length for smooth color blending?
I got the new cheap rotary pen style and I used coil machines yearssss ago now I’m thinking this is different but I’ll get used to it
I have a thunder but recent bought a spirit (I'm an apprentice) not sure if i should keep the spirit2.5? as I also have the hawk pen 3.5. What positives are there to having a 2.5 in my arsonal? I got the thunder as the hawk pen wasn't lining on tougher skin. My mentor recommend the thunder and it really worked but still doesn't do big liners that great. They say you can shade and fill with the spirit what does fill mean is it packing?
Wait, are you sure a lower stroke hits more times per second than a higher stroke at the same voltage? I thought the voltage just changes the RPM, so it would be the same number of hits/strokes per second regardless of stroke length? The centrifugal speed should be the same, but shouldn't the linear speed should be higher for the longer stroke because it travels a farther distance per stroke?
But its not about that, its about how many rotations the cam makes per second. Each rotation is a hit. The question is do lower stroke machines rotate their cams faster, I don't think they do. I'd honestly like to learn a lot more about this specifically because I'm not sure. @merrynothing3204
My understanding is that they hit the same number of times per second, which is why the longer stroke has more punch, it is covering more distance and moving faster. @merrynothing3204
Na, Jonathan is correct, it's the linear speed that's increased and hence the stroke momentum and why it hits harder and doesnt bog. So while this video is mostly informative that is part (6:10ish) is misinformation.
good video! you got one thing wrong tho, and its a common one. different strokes do not make the needle rpm faster or slower. its the same concept as pistons in an engine, what a longer stroke will do is increase dwell time at the top and bottom of the stroke, this means its going to have more time in the tube to pick up ink and more time in the skin to lay the ink down. it does increase power too since the needle is forced to do more work to achieve the same rpm regardless of stroke it has to accelerate faster from the the top of the stroke to the bottom so it will hit with more force.
i think understanding this makes for a good argument to use traditional needle on bar setups over carts for lining its going to be able to take advantage of that accelerated force more than a cart can with the break between the plunger bar and the cart. cart machines get loud because of this, the cart cant keep up with the speed of the machine so the machine plunger ends up beating the top of the cart plunger as it hops.
question, is there a difference in coil machine?
ive already have a rotary type machine, i just want to know if there's a difference in it.
like, some says in coil machine the long stroke is for shading and the shorter stroke is for lining.
Your advice is golden. Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom with us
appropriate stroke es muy importante lol 😸💯
i wish i could like adjust that on my lil tattoo pen, id like to hang the needle more than i can, when i have the length set how id want, it doesnt retract enough back to pick up the ink... and also sometimes it ends up like excess ink having to be blotted off the skin... its a good lil beginner rig tho
I have the packer, can i shade/whip shade? I mainly line but sometimes shade
As a beginner should I get the 3.5 or 4.5 stroke
can you send the link for the injecta please? I am just starting out
what kind of mic are you using
Hey can I use a 4mm stroke for anyting
The best explaining on stroke lenghts ever. Thanx for this video
What machine stroke would be best for whip shading/stipple shading?
Hand speed and style and voltage matters...but generally 3.2-3.7 r good options. I only go low with super soft realism. Imo 3.5 and a 4.2 is all I really need.
Please let us know and how to order this 3 different machines i am a apprentice and ill had not been able to get my line work on point
Names machines and how exactly we order for line up/ shading / packing
My question is why not buy 3 injecta machines and have them set up for the strokes you need???
Yeh you cant really change the one machine in the same session without re covering your machine n all that shit
You’re THE best man
Thanks again for another banger 🤘
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So Nice; congrats
Hello 1st
Absolute ledgend ✌️
Thanks bro for sharing your knowledge 🙏
It's my pleasure
Hey could you make a video on the axis valhalla?
We've already done a review on that!
@Tattooing101 found it thank u 🙌🏾
Can you make a how to render smooth face on portrait bng
So i bought an ambition storm wand which is a 4.0 stroke and a dragonhawk which is a 3.5. Been thinking about getting the ambition mars u which has the ability to change the stroke, suggestions?
I've also learned longer stroke, you can have more hang for lining. It pulls ink better without spatter. Shorter stroke for shading 2mm hang on a 3mm cam more ink dispensed(but this could be wrong)... I "made"(knifemaker, OCD & many tools, hahaha)an injecta with a cheap Amazon knockoff & everything else replaced with injecta parts(3.0 cam, soft needle bar). At 1st I thought it was too dark, but as it heals, it's pretty good... Thanks for all the help, take it easy.
Oh boy, Brandon. Thank you for this video today! I had a 4 stroke ordered off Amazon and realized it’s the completely wrong stroke for what I want to do!! So I cancelled it in the nick of time! Haha Amen! And then I just happened to be looking into softer stroke machines and had the mast archer in my cart, when I opened the background app and there was your review of it!!! I’m tellin’ ya, I wasn’t long clicking that order button! hahaha what a lucky day! Thank you for being in the right place at the right time!! And for all your solid content!!!!
@love.guey 🦋🥹✨🩵