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Dear Josh, I appreciate tha time and effort to deliver all these videos, but if you want to make more pleasant and enjoyable videos, don't be stressed thinking whether or not you will be "perfect", the audience will not grade you, you are not giving any exams in any institution, so relax and talk to your audience as if you are talking to friends in your room. Your anxiety is imprinted and is troubling unlike Linus, or other laptop reviewers who seem to be relaxed about what they are doing and are having a good time while they are doing it. Please also stop mentioning that you are making your mother proud, and stop mentioning to smash the like button so desperately. If people enjoy you, they will smash the like button. If you keep asking them to do so, they will not. Finally, when you are presenting charts, stay a bit longer on the charts explaining what we see, and not be in such a hurry. A lot of your charts appear for half a second and it gets even hard to pause at the right moment in order to inspect them. Slow down your pace and let people enjoy you. Even if your videos are longer people will enjoy if you are relaxed. If you are in such a constant pressure to say too many things quickly in limited time people get tired. I would also appreciate if you update your charts in this video with Intel 185H graphs. Check Lenovo yoga pro 9i for instance.
What is your definition of budget?
@@Chokani Should be regularly available new for under $600
Dear parents please don't buy your kids this crap as a school laptop.
Please don’t buy super old, horrible garbage laptops. These PCs are not viable now and they won’t be in the future.
The latitude isn't as bad as he makes it out to be. I had a thinkpad with an even lower powered CPU from that laptop that I daily drove until around 6 months ago. It was honestly great and could run everything I needed like an office suite, browser and even Minecraft perfectly fine. If you can get an old business laptop for a low price like £100 and you don't need anything too fast, it's genuinely a good option (although personally I wouldn't buy dell as I'm used to thinkpads)
@@fantasypvpI agree. Some of these weren’t too bad. Especially with a few upgrades.
A good first laptop for a kid (if gaming isn't an intention) is a $300-400 brand name (ie Dell, HP, Acer). My first laptop was one of these and I used it up till I bought my own laptop like 10 years later, it was perfectly serviceable
@@RouthornAlex07 they are viable, problem is windows doesn't do well on low end hardware, remove windows and you'll have a viable laptop
Maybe put out a follow up video on how to navigate eBay for a used $200 ThinkPad that doesn’t suck. Something like a T480 buyers guide, honestly that is the $200 laptop that most people should buy if they must spend $200.
I love this idea. Let me see what we can do
@@JustJoshTech The T480 (non-S) is the best model you can get for $200-250 that is going to still be relevant for many years. It's a reliable and upgradable workhorse with 4 cores, as most ThinkPads have 2 weak cores. T490 and later models just don't have the upgradability and repairability that it has. Same with T480s. You can also undervolt the processor by downgrading the BIOS version from 1.26. You should mention to avoid the following pitfalls:
1. Make sure that Computrace is not enabled.
2. Make sure that the screen is not the awful 1366x768 TN panel. If you have no choice, make sure to get a proper 1080p Innolux IGZO panel as soon as possible to replace this eyesore of a screen.
3. Check if the Thunderbolt firmware has been updated. Many ThinkPads have to have their Thunderbolt firmware updated to avoid breaking the USB-C and Thunderbolt port functionality (including charging the laptop). The Thunderbolt version should be higher than 20.0 on the T480. Don't skip out on this - you may be risking making your laptop unusable and in need of a repair, so it's best to avoid this.
@@JustJoshTech You wouldn't need to focus on that brand specificially, just generically windows pro big business machines such as probook & latitude would also be competitive I have found better deals on them because they weren't fetching the thinkpad premium. Before my framework I got the latitude 7490.
@@JustJoshTechnow that's a real budget laptop guide. The t480s and p50 are built different
The latitude in this situation is probably fairly similar to a thinkpad of it's age, put an SSD in it and it should run windows 10 great
Just bought an old 2017 Thinkpad from eBay for my dad for under $100 USD. Good screen, Core i5, 8Gb ram, 256Gb SSD. It's fantastic. Pre-owned is the way to go!
I got a 2017 ThinkPad for £170 with 16GB and a touchscreen XD (X1 yoga gen3)
3.1 rating on amazon is definitely below average. Generally I consider 4.0-4.2 as average product quality, and anything below 3.5 I assume it to be terrible.
yeah rating inflation. I'm not sure what Josh considers the average
I consider that 4.3 to 4.4 star is the average, and at least 4.6 star is good. Also ALWAYS read the 1-3 star review first before the 4-5 star one, because high star rating sometimes indicate a "fake review trap"
I guess he is talking mathematically, anything above 2.5 would technically be above average due to the definition but you could argue average as in average of all ratings which I would say would be much more harder to calculate
3:33 *_HELLO YOUR COMPUTER HAS VIRUS._*
Yeah it sounds like a scam. We are going to call it to check
@JustJoshTech I wouldn't be surprised if it was a tech support scam number from India or somewhere around there. Good luck, and may the odds be ever in your favor. 😂
@@cameronbosch1213*Indian scammers swearing in their language*
@@JustJoshTech So any update?
Funny that you just uploaded this video, we were discussing getting a refurbished ThinkPad T480 just recently. A ThinkPad T480 (non-S) can be upgraded to 64GB RAM, can have their batteries upgraded from 24Wh to 72Wh (usually sold on Al iexpr ess for $30), can have their CPU coolers upgraded to a 2-heatpipe dGPU model for extra overclocking headroom, can have their storage upgraded with 2 SSDs (2280 and 2242, only limited to Gen3 x2 speeds, so don't overspend on a Gen4 SSD), can have their keyboard replaced easily, can even have their screens swapped to an Innolux IGZO low-power panel for better colours and markedly better battery life.
All of this for $200-250 for refurbished models. You can also discover some Nvidia MX150 models (with proper 25W of TDP, not limited to 10W like on the arguably worse T480s, which has nowhere near as much upgradability as the T480).
Basically, the ThinkPad T480 (non-S model) is like a Framework 13 for $250, but already assembled and ready to go and with same top-notch customer support. Make sure to either get the i5-8250U/8350U model if you're an average user, or the i7-8550U/8650U model if you're a programmer or you love ThinkPads, just like I and a lot of other people do.
Yeah and they are around 200 bucks. Beastly machines. These used to cost around 2000 dollars in 2007. Missed opportunity for Josh to review a Thinkpad
I'd say get the 490. The T480 is dual core, while the T490 is quad code. I made the mistake and bought the T490s for a little under $200. I regret it already since I can't upgrade the RAM. I didn't research the difference with the S model. Don't be like me.
@@argeus3639the T480 could come with 7th or 8th-gen CPUs, some with 2 cores, others with 4 cores. e.g. my T480 has an i7-8650U, a 4-core part.
The T490 had 8th and 10th-gen options, ranging from 4 to 6 cores.
The T490 does have a couple of disadvantages. It only has one SO-DIMM slot, the rest of its RAM is soldered. The T480 (non S) was the last model to have 2 slots. Then again, RAM is pretty unlikely to fail, so 8-16 GB of soldered memory + one slot for upgrades is pretty good for most people.
The T490 also just has an internal 50Wh battery. My T480 has an internal 24Wh battery and a hot-swappable 72Wh battery pack. I don't have any extra batteries so the hot-swap is pretty irrelevant, but the extra battery life is fantastic, in the same ballpark as the 13" M2 Macbook Air's 15+ hours of wifi web-browsing (I can't find other apples-to-apples comparisons). Obviously the M2 Air achieves that with just a 52.6 Wh battery.
The battery also props the laptop up at a nice 5° typing angle, which probably improves airflow too. Though you could do the same with a paperback book or a couple of Lego bricks.
Unfortunately the extra battery means it does weigh quite a bit (1.81 kg vs the 1.46 kg of the T490, or the 1.24 kg of the 13" M2 Macbook Air), and I do wish the screen was 4:3, or even the 16:10 of newer Thinkpads.
@@argeus3639the t480 is quad core. It’s the t470 that your thinking of
This is the user experience that Mac users think all Windows users have on a computer. It is sad that companies even offer this level of e-waste for sale.
Not all Mac users. Some of us run both platforms.
In this case at least one of the computers was used, so not what we usually talk about when it comes to e-waste.
I have no idea what current Mac users tend to think about Windows UX. Vista ran awfully on budget hardware, and Apple ran ad campaigns capitalising on that, but that was 17 years ago.
For me, "awful Windows UX" means the bloatware that comes on OEM PCs, ads in the Start menu, badgering people about how great Edge and Office 365 are, and generally being so intrusive with notifications that it's hard to get work done.
I have no idea how modern macOS treats its users-my last Mac was from 2010 and had its OS support dropped in 2018's Mojave release. And most of the above Windows problems can be avoided. But most Windows users don't know how, and just put up with them.
I've seen tons of mac users go from cheap, god awful windows laptops to quite expensive macs and trying to compare the experience
Sorry but thats just absurd to think. You cannot compare a $200 laptop to a $2000 laptop. Buy a Windows laptop at similar price point of Mac and then compare. Just because the Windows Laptop marketplace has options at which Mac doesn't even exist it does not mean such a irrational comparison is valid.
To the point of star reviews, you're not alone.
There's literally a video called "Star Ratings Are Useless and it's Capitalism's Fault" by Steve Shives. I'd personally give it 20 thumbs up 😊
Very informative video and great website! Thanks for your work!
This is why I always recommend staying away from very cheap stuff. These are often terrible and unreliable, making your experience with it worse. Some people don't want to listen because I need it now because it is cheap, forgetting that these things will likely easily break making you pay more in the long run
Wait? You mean Santa's not... real? How have I not known this? And who has been getting my letters for the last 40+ years? Have I been Santa-phished?
Good video, very informative. And great recommendation page!
I got an old DELL Latitude E7270 (i5 6300u, 256 GB SATA SSD) for just $50 in pretty neat condition except for the battery, replaced that for a brand new one for $30, the touchpad's buttons are gone bad (but I don't care, I have a good external mouse $10) and upgraded the RAM to 12 GB, $5
For $95, it is an excellent secondary laptop with full windows 11, 23H2
I still use an HP laptop with a similar cpu to the Dell. If you install an ssd and 8gb of dual channel ram, replace the thermal paste and thoroughly clean it, it should actually be very usable for basic tasks like UA-cam. If doing all of that work is actually worth it to you.
6:58 Just nitpicking but going from ~$150 to ~$450 is a really big jump for someone on a tight budget though. I personally was in this situation growing up and while in college
But I'm curious to know your opinion on getting a setup like a raspberry pi with a monitor. I found out how powerful they were while in college and they seem like suitable cheap PC alternatives, and therefore good laptop alternatives
Totally agree with what you said about pricing!! Even $150 vs $200 is a big deal if you’re really on a budget
I'd be interested in how upgradable these are. Is it possible to add more storage and memory perhaps? Also, slap a lightweight linux distro on them.
can you check out the new OLED laptops, especially the Core Ultra ones, and ESPECIALLY the HP Spectre 360 2024, 16 inch? It's hard to find them tested on PWM flickering which many people are sensitive to
Considering a pi zero 2 w. Is it a decent PC for very light python programming and web browsing?
Thank you for making this video!! I wish all tech creators do the same! Kids deserve better!
Thanks!
Liked that one with if you know even a "foe" :)))))... Great review, as always!
Just a FYI, Samsung Dex is only available on Galaxy S series devices on tablets and phones and not all of the tablets support video out so your stuck using the dex on there screen (which still makes keyboard and mouse usage loads better). All the S series phones with USB C can do display out and run dex to en external display. You can run it over a wireless display but it's not great.
Will you be getting the vision pro?
the higher end version of that latitude with the upgraded dedicated GPU and it was really quite powerful for my taskes even if the battery life sucked
This is a good PSA that e-waste is e-waste, but honestly as a long time viewer I miss your old reviews of the hidden diamond in the rough $500 laptops. Like the old Asus Zenbook with Ryzen 4500U and MX350 for $550. Idk if these laptops exist anymore but those hard to find but legitimately great value laptops are what originally drew me to your channel. What are the best deals without sacrificing actually usability of the laptop.
Right now I think the Ryzen version of the Zenbook 14 probably is a steal, especially if you can get one with 16 GB of RAM at under $600
I hold out some hope that the upcoming Acer Aspire Go refresh will have decent build quality, including screen, keyboard & trackpad, and overall durability.
They may just have E-cores, but Intel's Alder Lake-N CPUs are adequate for a lot of people's computing needs (light office tasks, web browsing, skype/zoom meetings). $250 USD for a laptop with an N100, 8GB RAM and 1920×1200 14" screen certainly **sounds** like an attractive budget option, and hopefully Acer won't nickel-and-dime people for the upgrade to 16GB of (soldered) RAM.
It'll be nice to have a go-to budget recommendation besides "secondhand Thinkpad".
@@wereoctopus Unfortunately a refurbished ThinkPad T480 is going to be a much more attractive option. Acer could easily add a RAM slot, making it upgradable to 32GB RAM with a single stick (or potentially 48GB with an NB-DIMM stick), but they deliberately soldered the RAM onto the motherboard. Unlike a refurbished T480, which can be obtained for the same $230-250 with an i5-8350U, that's going to be faster than the N100, can be upgraded to 64GB RAM easily, have better battery life (can be upgraded from 24Wh to 72Wh with a $30-40 battery), have a much better keyboard (it's a ThinkPad), be virtually indestructible (it's an old-style "thick" ThinkPad), all in the same 14" chassis. That's the laptop to buy if you don't want the big and heavy 15.6" laptops, as only those seem to have two RAM slots.
@@one_step_sideways I have a T480, you don't have to convince me ;)
However, even if the Aspire Go has, say, a 50Wh battery vs my T480's 96Wh, it's not immediately clear which will get longer battery life. The N100 is a more efficient CPU¹. Soldered, un-upgradeable RAM is obviously a dealbreaker for many users, but it's also more energy efficient. The LCD is larger and brighter, but there might have been efficiency gains there too.
Without the two side-by-side, running the same tasks (and at same screen brightness) I honestly couldn't say which would last longer.
¹The N100 has a 6W TDP, the i5-8250U is 15W. They have pretty comparable performance too, e.g. the N100 is slightly faster at single-core Geekbench 6, slightly slower at multi-core. My T480 and my N95-based mini-PC both run Debian and feel similarly responsive.
Another great clips!!!
Another thing worth mentioning on the really old used laptops like that HP is that Windows 10 is officially losing support in 2025, and Windows 11 is only supported on Intel 8th Gen/Ryzen 2nd Gen and newer. While this can be worked around by anyone moderately tech-inclined, it does make it tough to recommend used laptops from before 2018 or so, even though a lot of them will still perform fine for basic use as long as they have an SSD and enough RAM.
Good comment. Thanks you Andrew
While true, Windows 11 has largely been disliked and has never made a significant market share of installed users vs Windows 10. Many people will run Windows 10 on their computers that came with Windows 11. I have both installed as multi-boot. I haven't used Windows 11 enough to have an opinion on it so far.
Microsoft will likely have to come out with Windows 12 or something else to get Windows 10 users to leave it. I suspect they will extend the deadline because Windows 10 still dominates.
Windows 10 is the most popular OS in use with computers today.
You can bypass the requirements. Unfortunately, you won't be getting any feature updates unless you join Windows Insider, and who knows what will happen down the line. This is exactly why I hate Microsoft now. Making people throw away perfectly good computers for no reason.
@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242they did extend the windows 10 deadline, but there's a catch... Extended security updates only + it's a subscription
@@0w3nnI have windows 11 on an “unsupported” computer from 2008 and it runs fine and gets updates regularly.
Maybe talking about how to “recover” a bad purchase of one of those by installing a light linux distro for example would be nice. After installing Linux it would be able to run the whole libreoffice suite (which is not bad at all) and even browsing websites would be better.
Also to bear in mind is that at that price point no one is trying to run any specific windows software on it so a chromeOS notebook would be the most logical buy.
True.
If your Into fixing stuff looking around ebay or Facebook market for laptops with broken hinges, they can be profitable, I just got a 2017 laptop from the tech bin at my local scrap yard for about 4 dollars, hinges was broke that's all. This is a rare find but it shows you what people will throw away
Making Josh, his team and his mom proud. Thank you!
Thank you
Excellent video you earn a new subscriber today 👍
Omg this video was pure comedy Gold! loved all the B roll and writing. One of the best reviews you've done Josh and funny!
So, I've seen Acer Aspire 5 laptops, for around $600 CAD, on Amazon, some with AMD CPU's, and Radeon graphics. Now, I know that any AMD based computer should be running with dual channel ram, to get better performance out of the onboard video, but the Acer laptops generally have 1 "stick" of ram soldered to the board, and 1 slot for a physical SODIMM. So if you add another stick of ram, will it be running in dual channel? Thanks.
Be careful here. That was a thing with DDR4 Memory, where a single stick of memory was single channel. In the DDR5 space each stick of memory is already dual channel. So 2 sticks (1 soldered and 1 replaceable) gets you to quad channel. The difference in most applications of dual to quad is not as impactful as it was single to dual. So you need to ask... is it DDR4 or DDR5 first before being concerned about the impact. Hope that helps
Glad I found you, I'm one of those dummies that would buy this stuff.
It's partially cause I'm rather old and don't no a processer from a memory chip. I just need to be able to get on the net for research and put on a jump drive. Actually getting away from CD's cause they always MP4 and few can play them.
Because of u I'm going with my phone and a monitor of some sort.
All the love
All the power
Bruno
Oh man, this is going to be a fun watch!!
Pretty amazing. You might as well spend the money on an old Macbook. I still have my 2009 white Macbook (Core Duo 2.2, SSD) that I use for writing, photo editing, and some light internet browsing. Still zippy after all these years. I use Avast for security, since Apple updates are long gone. For a bit more get an old Macbook Air. I can find these things locally for under $100; add a small SSD for $30.
I used the celeron n4020 at college last year with 4gb ram and windows 10 it was definitely not fast but it did the job for ms word PowerPoint and a couple of tabs on opera still wouldn't recommend getting one this low spec though
For those on a very restricted budget and will only buy new look for a machine with the pentium gold 7505 it's practically the same as the i3 1115g4 just clocked a little lower and much cheaper
The latitude is built nicely and is pretty cheap for a refurbished one. For normal browsing it will do the job. Also free DVD drive lol.
Decided to get a cheap laptop while my main one was getting fixed so I would have something to use. My Huwawei d15 was not fixed properly, and now I am stuck with a laptop that can't even keep up with my slow ass typing when writing a comment. I basically got the cheapest one I could find out of a place called Argos in the UK. I wish I got a second hand one or spent a bit more money and done more reasearch.
How those can be considered "new" if they are made from old parts?
Also, what does the usage of HDD has to do with inability to see YT videos in high Res? Could it be that 4GB of RAM is faked? That's because my old machine has HDD but has no trouble with resolution of YT videos.
You can get a surface pro 5 or 6 , surface laptop 3 and many many ThinkPad and latitude between 200 to 300 dollars which have supirior build quality of a thousand dollars laptop and are upgradable with processor that are still good for 5 years or so.
Yes, I agree. We have put many of those on our website for laptops to consider that are older ones but still good in this price range
I wonder how they would run if you put linux on them. Or maybe steam link, cloud gaming, or as a base for a Nas.
I had - and still have - a latitude E6510, which is several years older than the E6440, and which I bought when it was 9 years out of date. And I have to say, after upgrading it with an SSD, it was perfectly usable for browsing the web, emails, and word documents, or when I want to watch/access something stored on DVD. I still use it as a backup when my current laptop has some issue. The battery had definitely degraded over time, though. I still wouldn't recommend anyone buy it, but it is actually usable.
Yeah, with all due respect to Josh, who is a great reviewer. Some of these laptops are still usable with the right upgrade (more RAM, and swap to SSD). I have an old laptop with Intel atom N4020 which is a horrible dual core atom processor. It became perfectly usable after I upgraded its hard drive to SSD. Perfect for basic work laptop, and can be used to stream UA-cam.
I've still got a thinkpad x61 which is somewhat usable lmao
I've got several old Dells and HP's which are pretty decent, however I need to finally switch to something newer. Which I do have.
Spending more doesn't always assure success, like my toshiba l855d s5220. It gets the tasks done, but $629 12 years ago was way too much for this crate. Even with moves to SSD and Lubuntu, this thing just crawls. Even with a full charge, the AC needs to be connected, or it won't play youtube. Thankfully I got this for free from the waste tip -- I would have felt burned had I paid $350 new.
I'm guessing most of these are just running into ram limitations, since windows will take up like 3.5GB alone. Would probably perform a lot better with a lightweight linux distro. Computers aren't slow, software is
00:47 Just saw this on ebay for $100 with Celeron R, 3 gigs of ram and 64 gig storage Windows 10. It looked the same anyway.
Ditch Windows and install a lightweight distro of Linux. At least some of them could probably be made to be quite usable.
I would actually recommend Dell Latitude 7390. With 8gen intel 4cores 8threads (i5-8350U) it has enough performance for casual win usage. Also, it is actually pretty, quite stylish and the overall quality is very good. In my country, around 2019, 2020 new one costed hmm 1400 $. Now it costs around 250 $.
1000 / 3000 in geekbench and windows is snappy.
I bought it for a friend and she on the budget, I did some research and overall, she was ultra happy with it.
The alternative was macbook air from around 2017 but to be honest, it's performance was horrible (2-3x less performance cpu) and the price was even a bit higher. Plus with dell latitude you can easily add more ram (which is cheap), bigger ssd etc.
ps. yea, i was thinking about a new one laptop from the cheapest / budget sector, but overall build quality is so poor, so cheap (exactly like you showed xD), so plastic that ultimately such 4-5 year old Dell Latitude 7390 looks like super business, sleek, stylish laptop from another league :)
Have you seen the Acer $250 laptop from CES? I think ltt said it was called the aspire go 14
That $250 starting price is for 8GB RAM, Acer haven't said how much the 16GB variant will cost.
@@wereoctopus being Ram is so cheap, thats not really an issue most should care about. And at the $250 price do you need more? You arent gaming or do anything other then a media machine and office.
"even foe" had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The E6420 was a great machine back in 2014. By modern standards it’s a tank.
You can't imagine how useful is your website, especially in my country
That latitude would be a deacent laptop if only you gave it an SSD.
I am using a 2011 i5 ProBook, it is a perfectly deacent laptop for most users.
I had one of those Latitude 6440 back when it was new. Good laptop then, only good as a door stop now.
From my experience of running a laptop with similar specs it should have no problem running windows 10 with an office suite if a cheap SSD was put in it
agree@@fantasypvp
Would those work better with some light Linux distro as Debian/lxde?
They would not. They are way too slow even for them. I tested Fedora on the Asus $100 laptop video I have linked below.
That dell laptop might be usable with sata ssd , honestly and for basic use 256gb is enough , i doubt another one will be usable even with ssd
recently i bought lenovo laptop with Ryzen 3 7320U and 8 gb of ram for $400. i think it is the bare minimum if you don't mind very bad viewing angles on the screen.
it's better to buy an old laptop second hand something like a 6th ir 7th gen should cost like $200
after using an xps 15 9520 for a year every other laptop just feels so sluggish aha
2:18 So my laptop gets filtered out, lol. I bought it without windows for 40$ less.
You put an SSD in that Latitude and it'll fly for years. i5 Haswell is still pretty good.
I like the budget content!!!
In my opinion to serve price points under about $600 what OEMs should do is heavily promote certified refurbished models, honestly it would save a heck of a lot of money as far as managing inventory and R&D and testing for the lower end models too. Like seriously the 6th gen X1 Carbon or a similarly aged Macbook Pro or Dell XPS is going to be way more usable than most stuff that's at the lower price points. With the way modern websites are designed and the amount of stuff which is written as Electron apps nowadays anything under about 8 GB of RAM and a recent Core i3 is going to be barely usable and really I'd recommend 16 GB of RAM if actually trying to be productive beyond basic word processing.
Hello. I always thought improved codes meant better performance. Why are we seeing the opposite?
@@fromabove422 Because developers have gotten lazy and rather than properly optimizing apps for the native platforms they ship heavy runtimes like Electron
I think a better way to test would be to install a lightweight Linux OS like Lubuntu and then do the test. Or maybe even Chrome OS Flex.
I did that in my older Asus video linked below this one. Honestly nothing can save those processors. They are just too slow, even with Linux. Plus a website is still a website and is still being run through Chrome
@@JustJoshTech Yeah, I saw the video after I posted the comment.
When I think of how modern-day computers are, I am astounded that I had an acer, with an Intel Celeron processor, 128 GB HDD, 2 GB ram, which I bought in 2006 and used till 2016 - and it took me through undergrad and my PhD. And I did some serious simulations using that thing. 🙂
Wow. Thats impressive. Yeah even modern web pages are very complex now@@qanittakmeel
its not really those 2 core cpus that are really the problem its the 4gb of ram and slow drives, (in most cases)
When i tougth my i5-6300u dual-core CPU was garbage...
I scored a vostro with an i7 10750h and a 1650ti for $300 and used premium laptops are a much better idea than new cheap laptops
Yea i just bought another laptop and i bought a pretty premium one cuz i was sick and tired of crappy laptops breaking on me.
(I got a lenovo slim 7i, the 13th gen intel version, there are literally no reviews on youtube for it other than mine lmao, but after owning it for 2 days so far ive been really enjoying using it
Trade it for a thinkpad, they may not look shiny but they're honestly exceptional laptops
@@fantasypvp thinkpads are trash (the new ones) and fucking garbage value, and way too large bulky and heavy and have borderline no battery life, and are cheap plastic crap, the slim 7i is built like a tank with a solid aluminum chassis and actually is decent value, and meets my requirements, also next time you make a suggestion phrase it as a suggestion, dont tell me what to do
Legitimately though though a thinkpad with worse specs would cost me more money and be a bulky piece of trash
Conclusion : if you cannot afford brand new laptop with ryzen 3 or core i3 just buy used windows machine, for example lenovo thinkpad, or brand new chromebook, unless you will use it with linux or tiny 11 only. If the laptop way too slow i doubt linux or tiny 11 can save it
I definitely agree with you that this is e-waste.
I feel as though just like how cars have to meet certain minimum requirements for fuel economy and safety, etc. for them to be sold by manufacturers - Electronic devices should also have that sort of minimum requirement in terms of performance and reliability, etc. before they are sold. Although it is understandable that enforcing this rule would be difficult due to the sheer number of devices
You paid too much for the second hand Dell. I bought a 4th gen i5 laptop with 8GB DDR3 and 128GB SSD already in it for 60 dollars.
A 4th gen i5 laptop with spinning rust for $160 is just robbery in my opinion.
Will it run Crysis 3?
Honestly I would have gotten the Dell Latitude E6440
Should have gotten a thinkpad.
For non-indepth work (video editing, windows gaming etc) it's a Chromebook for me.
I wouldn't recommend a chromebook with less than 8Gb, and double that for one intended to run win 11 !
I've only used the original Lenovo Chromebook Duet, but that seemed to run fine with 4GB RAM? Its MediaTek SoC (a Helio P60T) was probably the bigger limitation. But I was mainly using it for word processing, PDF viewing, and relatively light web browsing (in Firefox with an adblocker and most javascript disabled).
@@wereoctopus I have an Acer 2n1, the Spin 713. I use it for lite video editing, photo editing, etc using Chrome, Android and Linux desktop apps. 8Gb is fine, but 16 Gb would be better!
Minimum processor requirement should have been 7320u. There are some decent cheap laptops in this range.
Yeah, but that cpu should be avoided if it only have 8gb of ram cuz for some reason it does not support sodimm memory which is it is soldered
Could you reccomend any laptop under 500 New ?
Definetely a steam deck, even if it technically isnt really a laptop, could be made into a around $500 laptop with tons of longevity
You should have tried putting Linux on them and seen how that performed vs windows. I highly doubt these would be usable but I’m betting the performance would be much better and maybe even stomachable for just very very basic things.
You are spot on. I did that on a prior video with similar hardware. It still wasn't usable. It's linked below btw
You should’ve called up Psivewri so you could clean that cigarette-smelling laptop with his trademark eucalyptus oil.
I enjoy upgrading older laptops to be usable with current software. None of the laptops you reviewed are even worth upgrading.
So do I, and well said
My old laptop from 2009 is better and I got it for free from some idiot who thought it was obsolete junk. Nobody should use less than 4GB ram now and 64GB storage is truly terrible.
Ey my Lenovo Thinkpad 3 is great, ish.
Runs windows 11 well
I have an eight year old Acer ultrabook with a 3rd gen i5, 8gig that does better than this, LOL It became more viable with an SSD, I admit' but that was only 30$. And I still use it daily for simple stuff. It is amazing that craptops can be sold like this. I feel much better about my 600$ CDN new Asus now. Great video.
*meanwhile here's me who bought 8 broken laptops from 2 decades ago just for funzies*
Haha! I feel like you’re laughing at my ten year old acer aspire with this vid!!!
I got a gaming laptop with i7 6600u and gtx 960m for $200
Also a Raspberry Pi 5 will be significantly more powerful than all of these and perfectly usable for all everyday tasks for like $80.
No, 3.1 stars doesn't mean it's above average. Anything below 4 is almost certainly shite, because the ratings aren't used like you assume they are.
Why do these things need more power if are coders are getting better? Using Ai and stuff. I just don't understand why coding isn't getting more efficient...
you should’ve set parameters like 11th gen and 8g ram and win 10/11 minimum, this is not telling anything
They'll still sell like hot cakes here in Ireland
if you want a super cheap device, just skip windows, windows 10/11 and low end hardware aren't friends, rather get a chromebook or get the cheap laptop and do away with windows and put on a lightweight linux distro.
Under $200, just get a refurbished good performing well built laptop from 3-5 years back.
The dell doesn't look that bad tbh I bet it's very user upgradeable
There are ryzen 3 3250 laptops with ips 1080p 8gb ram and 128gb storage from hp for around $250, I know it isn't ideal but usable, also the ideapad 1 might be bad but it's miles better than the garbage in this video.
I know that saving more money or buying used it's ideal, but there are people that really can't pay more than 200 or 300 bucks and don't have flagship Samsung phones, and let's face it chromebooks are not real computers, and they are expensive if you want something as powerful as a ryzen 3 or i3.
Cheap laptops aren't the only ones full of disappointment. I recently purchased a $3000 name brand laptop with Intel 13980 HX, Nvidia rtx 4070, 32gb ram... absolute trash....freezing up randomly, and often, sometimes 4 to 5 times per hour, and only way to fix was a hard reset with the power button.... add to that the occasional BLOD and, well, to say I was able to use it 4 out of the 10 days I had it before returning it would be an overstatement.
Hmm ok, let me guess.. was it Alienware? 😂
No, it was an Asus Strix 18@@fantasypvp
@@danvanderknaap3401 oh wow, I thought Asus were generally known for having really good laptops
that's what hours of research led me to believe as well. I think the problem is more software/driver related. It seems to be happening to a lot of laptops from almost every manufacturer. I'm just not interested fighting with a $3000 device in the hopes of making it useable. I miss some of the windows software and ability to do some gaming, but for now I'm sticking with my 10 year old Macbook Pro. It is what it is, but it has been depenable.
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This just proves the best "cheap laptop" is an old used laptop vs a new cheap laptop..
Tech just deprecates so fast. My 300$ laptop I bought used used to cost 3000$ 4 years ago and for sure it will beat any new 300$ laptop...
Gotta love creating e-waste day one from the factory, devices like these shouldn't exist
Good to avoid these laptops haha