UNI VS GOING TO WORK : WHICH ONE BETTER? 上大学跟出社会哪一个比较好？ C.I.A #4 |
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- I don't know if tertiary education is important or not , I only know Penang Laksa is much more important
我是不知道大学教育到底重不重要, 我只知道槟城叻沙比较重要
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看到Qiwiie讲中文的一面非常惊讶，很客观地把大学教育好坏分享给我们。Shi Qi是个很会站在被人角度看事情的人👍🏻😳
shi qiii~
Sarawak laksa比较好吃
其实这个topic很简单不用那么复杂化，大学就分为两种，一种是专业性的比如工程师，医生，律师或程序工程师(Software Engineer).这种是一定要考上大学拿文凭的，如果一个医生是没有文凭我是不会去那边看病的。然后另外一种是可取代性的，比如 culinary arts, 摄影专业，甚至是business的文凭，这些文凭考到了也不一定可以稳定找到工作因为这类都是可以靠自己累计经验的，所以这类行业都是有经验的人比较吃香而不是有文凭的人。总体而言，你不能说大学没用，而是看你是选择了什么样的科系去读。所以如果你是不喜欢做专业类的行业或你没能力的话，就可以考虑直接出社会找工了，多上网查资料自我提升。
是的，很多人把这topic复杂化了
This is the most sensible comment here! There's no way in hell I'm gonna put myself under the knife of a self-proclaimed surgeon who didn't go to med school!
很多人就是搞不懂是又去读不是又去读，然后大学生意很好就爽爽拼命起学费
搞到现在薪水和学费不成正比大家一起辛苦
@@zanexra 读不读，要为自己将来负责，简单分4种不用复杂。 1有读书赚钱的人，2有读书赚不到钱的人，3没读书赚钱的人，4没读书赚不到钱的人，要成为哪个自己选
software engineer nowadays also can self learn
How is it that this channel only has
这集超棒，总结就是受教育的人大部分都过得不会太差，生活上多了很多选择。成绩不好的不一定都过得不错，但往往老板从中诞生😳
是啊，可是10个里面，几个是老板呢？排除雄厚的家世背景，真的可以靠自己白手起家吗？如果那么简单，不应该是遍地都是老板吗？
更正：Tunku Abdul Rahman University of Management & Technology(TARUMT) 拉曼理工大学，已经是大学了哦
its TARC
这一集真的是我看过wabikong这么久最有感触的一集了，因为我自己也是一位大学生，我i进大学最主要的原因也是因为我找不到自己想要的是什么，同时我也不明白自己的目标，和以后要走什么样的路，我常常在想会不会是因为时间还没到，所以我才会不知道我自己要追求的是什么，这一集真的有开导到我，谢谢wabikong😍🥰
兴趣和未来科系比较好，大学是人生社会入门票比较好，目前在马来西亚还是需要的，会了学术，活用来累计经验，专业态度，专注也很重要。
大学我领悟了，事情计划，安排，寻找资料研究来完成课业，独立思维，多看多做多学，面对日月工作压缩和压力， 抗压还可以。
我本身是工程系，SPM成绩嘛嘛过关而已，本身不放弃，SPM 后念电脑文凭，电脑高级文凭，电能学士文凭，边做边学。现在念着商业硕士，因为公司、工作需要。
看回之前的我，读好书不后悔，活学活用！
I agree that tertiary education is important to find a good starting job with good prospects over 5-10 years.
If you look at those working after SPM vs degree holders.
SPM holders earn money earlier, a smaller amount
Degree holders earn slightly higher. Even though the amount earned was later, a degree holder can catch up with the total earnings of an SPM holder for 8 years within 5 years.
Furthermore, when you would like to switch jobs (find a better opportunity), a degree holder has the better advantage of getting selected for an interview. Recruiters/HR mainly filter off their educations as part of the criteria for new candidates.
such a fun episode to watch!!! i never expected the collaboration of Shiqi and Wabbikong hahah
and, as always, kudos to the editor(s)! y'all make the video more funnier to watch
Thank you, but Wabikong only one B ok
@@WABIKONGTV ehh sorry lah typo 😩🫰🏻
直接做老板要吃很多苦，也不代表读了大学懂了theory就不用吃很多苦😅
Brother还是太年轻，不是学校教你从A-Z 出到社会就那么简单的。苦还是要吃，板还是要撞
做生意的没经历过风雨，钱来得快去得也快。不如说做老板才是这世界上风险数一数二的。要么吃香喝辣，要么破产
我觉得这个影片没有讲到一个点，读书或者读大学是实现自我价值成本最低及风险最低的方式，如果可以handle其他成本高及风险高的方式，其实可以不读书的
我觉得你讲的很有point，可惜我没有访问到你
成本最低？ 除非是拿獎學金，你父母辛苦付出百千攻讀大學，而大學大部分科系卻是廢科系毫無作用對自我價值有何意義？
以现实层面来讲，现在的社会，学士学位都不够用，当满街都是大学生，你只是SPM，拿什么跟人争？如果学历不重要，为什么JobStreet requirement第一项就是讲学历要求？
如果成本只是包括金钱，那你可能看得有点窄了。时间成本等，也是成本，金钱不过只是其中一个
imo, a change of pace with wabikong is definitely refreshing and surely thanks to the amazing @Qiwiie as an amazing guest ❤
Personally as a postgraduate student still experiencing this journey, will still enforce my kids to have higher edu for this experience. Yes we might not actually 100% settle into a top job or become who we want to be in 5 to 10 years etc, but this journey will really expose students/people into the journey that's different. ie learning to be critical, learning to be analytical, exposed to academic methodology and also the social aspects that's unique to the school you belong to etc. Additionally as an international student will also gives you that geographic exposure that not everyone has the privilege to experiencing. It is an expensive journey but it will surely be worth the journey. For entrepreneurial, through such education, u wont have to 走弯路 or even 冤枉路 as much too.
the malay men is very right about uni/college best outcome - is your picking up the ability to self learn
IMHO depending on which group you're joining, the answer might be yes or no. The importance of tertiary education may be overlooked today, but in the future when obstacles and challenges arise in life, career, business, etc., you will reconsider your view.
People born with golden spoon can inherit the wealth of their families, making it easier for them to excel in life, career and business without having to worry about tertiary education.
It's a realistic world we live in. In business, those bosses in the C-suite will still love to list their education qualifications in the company prospectus (annual report) to demonstrate their credibility and impress shareholders. Political leaders without a bachelor's degree are jokes; some of them buy fake degrees to prove their credentials and hide their shortcomings. Career-wise, you will find it difficult to climb the career ladder, and you will be paid less than someone your age with a higher qualification.
Been following WBK for a long time and your content is getting better each time. Good job on never giving up even tho getting just a few K views on early days.
6:08 😮😮
7:51 😂😂
9:31 😂😅
9:43 bEr-nice, double degree celcius, 17A+ 😅😂
10:24 looks cool😮
15:21 😅😅
16:13 cameo😊
16:21 16:26 damn these cuts😢
16:42 lol "Nabil look like this?"😂
16:52 games art 😮
17:18 wow inspiring 😢😮😂
18:40 😮😮
19:37 😂😅
19:50 uni of the world 😅
20:50 well said by them three
21:50 they know Chinese??😅
26:16 😅
27:09 I already staring at the subtitles😂
27:27 didn't notice just now😮
27:47 speaking standard accent😮
I think nowadays degree is very important because just imagine if you want to work oversea, then you need at least a degree to prove that you are qualified, especially when you want to work at the development country. Without a degree in this era, your career will be limited. Hence, is good to get a degree because is like a key for you to unlock the boxes in your future.
especially in China or singapore, they wont even have a look at your resume if you dont have any education backgrounds
我觉得 UNI 教会我 critical thinking, 如何 think out of the box. 当然每个人的看法也不一定，每所大学也不一样
我发现每次谈到教育大家都会不自觉地用同一套成功的标准，好像赚大钱or有好的business就是成功的standard，but in my opinion，我觉得成功并非只能是那样啦，最重要的是find the purpose of ur life咯，大学是其中一条路，like they said pre-society，让你体验，让你接触不同的人（这种接触和出社会并不大致相同，因为在大学的接触我认为是更加深入和广泛的，出到社会可能你接触的人就是跟你比较一样field的人了）。教育的本质是什么，我个人认为是提升个人能力，拓展个人和群体对于世界、文化、自身的认知，进而使得个人或群体有能力为社会贡献，又或者单单只是给自己提供生存的保障。而大学以及大学文凭只是教育的其中一环（算是教育应用的一环？不确定这样的说法是否准确）。我并不完全认同最后那句结尾啦，我认为education is important，and it also a necessary. 只是大学不是necessary而已。
推荐大家看一本书《你当像鸟飞往你的山》
读书不是人生成功的唯一出路，但对于普通人来说，读书是跨越阶级最轻松的方式。2023年了，别说没读书就能当老板的例子了，你口袋里没有第一桶金，都是空话。
22:16 唔我的猫咪Lolly终于踏上舞台了🌷谢谢你们觉得她cute😂
spm毕业如果没有方向就去做工 大学不急 毕竟是要给钱的东西 做工不一样 是拿钱。 as a spm holder 我毕业了 不知道要做什么 人家推荐engineering 然后我就去了 因为不想做工 读到一半 读不下去 不想浪费钱 就drop了 结果来到新加坡 机缘巧合之下 join了一个公司 成为了asst 到现在 两年 我是一个project manager cum engineer 很成功吗？不会很失败吗不会？ 人家问我会不会后悔没有继续我的diploma 我觉得不会 虽然我现在要去读part time to get 文凭 我才可以有更高工钱
我diploma毕业出来 不一定当得了engineer
不怕早走路 就怕走错路
很现实的一件事情，念书可以说很重要，更重要是你选择的行业和职业。因为大部分的大学生我相信年收入还不如摆摊的小贩
是啊，但大学生的薪资有增长空间啊。反之小贩的生意，成功的小贩，也是日积月累的成果。起头也需要一点资金，可能要经历亏损，有些摆了一段时间档口依然无人问津，不做就没收入，不好说。
@@esther6222做老板是需要条件的，会读书不代表有智慧。但是，要想成为一位成功的老板，智慧是必然条件。对了，打工不如摆摊，打工是帮别人赚钱，摆摊是为自己赚钱。只有面对困难人才会成长开智慧。
Everyone has their roles to fulfil in the world 🙏感恩🙏
The focus, resolve and grit to study well, also ensures a certain level of success. The false dichotomy is that you choose to go uni or go to work. Because at the end of the day, we all have to work. You can also start a business after uni. In fact, billionaire startup founders are disproportionally university-goers with a privilege family background. The sad truth is starting a business is risky. If you have limited startup capital, there is no room for error.
I hope you can make more about this related content, really liked it. Subbed because of this video only
个人经验，成绩不重要，文凭重要。通常只有第一份工会看成绩，因为没有经验参考。
要投resume面试的，公司不可能拿到20份resume就全部都interview。通常HR或hiring manager会做筛选，文凭是最基本条件，毕竟人家也不认识你。 被录取后就看个人attitude ，有心学，读书没记得的也可以重学。
College ain’t necessary. It limits down creativity. People who had no education in university, will eventually blame themselves for not going into tertiary education due to failures in their career. Knowledge is gained through experiences and not papers. Been in the high educational level for 6 years and everything is not really necessary to be successful. Never let anything hold you back.
yeah if u are going to work in a small firm, of course it's unnecessary
tbh I do regret that I didn't go to college. like after working for several years I do face some difficulty to get a better job lah.
lost of confident & financially not doing well make me a bit hesitate like whether to go or not, if there is a reset button in life I'll choose to go uni/college for a better/stable future.
Ofcuz chinese like money, so I do feel shameful to even face my family and relatives.
I agree with you, going to college is very important. However, there is a lot opportunity out there, I got few ex colleagues all of them only have SPM, but they can become team manager, operation manager , some is company director now, what my perspective is even though you have degree, but if you can’t perform well at work or communicate with other, you can’t get a good job too.
UNI VS GOING TO WORK EARLIER ? 要简单就分四种人咯， 1有读书赚钱的人，2有读书赚不到钱的人，3没读书赚钱的人，4没读书赚不到钱的人，你们要做哪个？我只能给每个大学生一个建议，要懂得为自己创造价值，因为外面竞争是很可怕的不是说你做错事被老板炒这种事，而是慢慢被社会淘汰（如被炒后没人要请你，高攀不起你，不然就是压你价, 而自己又不愿放低价码，最后是被逼要创业，创业又可能失败收场，就是我说的淘汰)。至于没念到大学的，不必在意，气馁什么，学手艺去拿经验，有一技在手（厨艺，sales，剪辑，维修等等)，打片天下无敌手哈哈。题外话，别小看WABIKONG，我知道他偷偷在挖金。
Your answer will probably differ depending on your situation. If you are asking for yourself, alot of the points in the video makes sense. But if you are a parent, you will want your kid to have the cert because (as the video also said) your kid may not be rich, but he won't be poor. But without a cert, it might go 50/50
你可以選擇讀或不讀，但是你的生活一定要有目標
换个角度看，其实大学college是为了赚学生的钱而存在的一个地方。就不要期望它可以帮到你太多。出来社会真的是看你的career选择和能力，还有运气。
正确
再换个角度看，你读的是医学，所以你和大学之间是互相利用, 两边都有好处
@@seanchungify现在读医，以后抗议
里面探讨的大部分是早出社会的好处和时间红利，那么如果今天你生病了，医生跟你说我没有文凭的，但是我很有经验，你敢给他医吗？牙医跟你说，我没有文凭，但是拔过很多人，你敢给他拔吗？在美国，很多创业都是大学时期的项目，尤其是科技行业，大学是你不这么为钱烦恼，你才能想到更多idea。当你出来了，你只能等我有了车先，等我有了房子先，等这个等那个了
我不认同你的想法。因为有经验的医生他本生就对医学方面的知识都很感兴趣了的，basic的东西肯定是懂了+自学能力很强。只是没有去考那张文凭而已。加买他的实战experience比没有实战experience整天看书里面bbb的，怎样都会有优势。加上你生病一定是找有experience的医生嘛！你还会去管人家有没有文凭，能把你救活就好了。不然为什么现在很多人都还是找老中医不去找现代的医生！
文凭is not everything，但是我也知道当今这个社会只看文凭，但不要因为文凭就去否定别人
以上是我想表达的内容
美國美國，多少美國富豪創業根本沒讀大學或沒讀完好嗎
@@caine23 首先你要有富爸爸
个人日本大学意见：
大学只是社会的预备班，即使没有大学文凭，但也有许多朋友具备这个大学的能力。
大学并不像中小学有正确的分数和答案。
中小学，对就是对，错就是错，今天老师给一个题目，明天该题，写答案。
76分，80分明显写给你。
大学没有正确的“分数”,一个题目，有多个角度看法讨论，也没人手把手教你，自己找论文，答案，可以对，可以错，最终教授改题看心情 给，优，秀，良，可。
就好像老板给你一个job，没人手把手教你，你用不用心做出来，就知道成果。
即使没有大学文凭，做出来的成果有可能比大学生好，长时间社会累积的经验。
科目，教授，就好像出来社会的工作与老板，我们可以自己选择。不喜欢读就换老师与科目，拿够分数即可毕业。
你觉得呢？
大學大部分科系都是廢科系純騙學生家長錢，比如 一個沒開公司或當老闆的 講師或教授 教你如何行銷或商業管理，有沒有邏輯？
Even a 5 stars hotel chef will have to attend culinary school and obtain various certificates, diplomas, recognitions, and awards. It is quite possible for someone without certificates, diplomas, recognitions, or awards to become a successful chef, but how many out of 10 are going to be successful?
中文参杂英文整个就是很新加坡style节目的感觉哈哈
Regardless of how much money you make, if you do not have at least a Bachelor's degree, you will find yourself limited in life. The experience gained in university is invaluable and cannot be bought with money.
6:08 😮😮
7:51 😂😂
9:31 😂😅
9:43 bEr-nice, double degree celcius, 17A+ 😅😂
10:24 looks cool😮
15:21 😅😅
16:13 cameo😊
16:21 16:26 damn that cut😢
13:04 这个我也有故事要分享
小学的时候我因为真的很没有未来方向，志愿就听父母说工程师engineer的薪水很高，就随便写上去了
但是我很不喜欢写作业，很多时候要么敷衍做要么偷工减料。有一天还被老师吐槽说这么懒的engineer，之后盖的楼不是建一个塌一个？
我特别不服气，为什么engineer不能懒惰，我就喜欢思考不想动有错？
之后大学拿Bachelor of Computer Science in Software System Development
顺利Degree毕业
也成为了Software Developer，也简称Software Engineer
思考和反思为重点的职业，太适合我了
For this episode, after deeply considering, I choose Sarawak laksa better than Penang laksa
😂😂😂
you mean Sarawak curry mee
better than penang fish noodle@@WABIKONGTV
大马来人这说话方式绝了👍
not just Malaysia, Singapore also having the similar divide on whether having a degree is a default item that is must have in order to succeed
to some extent i have some regret, looking back, on taking the path of going to do A levels then enrol (after 3 tries) to NUS to a course that the interest fizzled out in the end.
but for the sake of face + the school fees, gotta finish it.
Compared to some of my peers who went polytechnic path and come out to work early
think they may well be more street-smart
very well said 👏 primary and secondary is quite important, but uni not so. Cool episode
I am malaysian who working in Singapore i can confirm only third world country education is not important than working /but in development country like sg /china education is everything in job entry /and competition is very high
If low education your salary was very limited in sg
In malaysia is inverse you working first your salary is higher
ermm Wabikong, imho , i think the Reaction part (2 circle above | 看xiami | 我都沒注意到 後面part才注意到下) should be more bigger (maybe placed in rectangular in both side / bottom part , my 2 cents lah) coz viewer like to watch reaction from their idol de mahh right~ quite no engagement sial 這要改進~ after 13:00 , i baru perasan there is two circle above sml...........
Education is very important but it does not determine everything. What makes a business work is not just the boss but also the employees. If you hire a highly educated employee who applies what they learnt at school ,has relatively ok IQ and EQ he/she is likely to be an asset in helping the business achieve success. Let's take a simple starch producing business for example, if you do not have someone who studied their chemistry & physics well how would you know that in milling starch the factory needs to make sure there's no exposed wiring, have explosion proof equipment and ensure no smoking on the grounds because starch is combustible and at large enough quantities of starch dust a spark can trigger a large explosion. Geography matters a lot as well since its a globalised business world, shipping materials & finished goods through different routes to reach different destinations. Example if you send a temperature sensitive product to a far away country it can spoil the quality of a product as it crosses into a different season. That triggers decision making to use a refrigerated container or not. Try running a MNC without graduates.
Thank you, wabikong for bring the leng loi into your podcast 😂
真的很喜欢马来西亚人 可爱到 搞笑到 邻国很stress
Enjoyed this video…Good content, keep it up 👍
conclusion of this video,... education is important but not necessary, money is importanter and is necessarier
money is not everything, but without money you probably cant do anything
Important lesson is that if your family got money no need study also ok la.....
這集很多hidden feat喔
看到她让我想起 " Emotional Damage" 她的学生有喊过。
念完大學去買保險，地產，微商最好
知道自己要的生活是什么 ，比什么都重要
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12:55 this guy G for God mode!! TH for terhebat!! raisin teach me wan
its all about $$$$, diploma salary 1800 degree 3500 12 yrs ago u choose
16:11 Jia Jia 应该是时常出现在Lunacy的video的
有读书你能选择的未来比较多~没读选择比较少~
有什么东西本来是给小孩设计的，但最后对年轻人吸引力更高？ what thing was designed & meant for children but it turns out more attractive to youngsters
看了眼 👀 qi wei ( a glance at qi wei ) answer / 答案 : 幼儿园女老师 , a kindergarten teacher lady💃
果然uncle吃盐比我们吃米多
walaweh that indian guy speak fluent mandarin🥳
Sai mentioned Dasher’s bosses. seems like he really admires them much, or they just one of the 金主😅
Good topic for us
BTW 他好像是像说特别鸣谢sponsor instead of 谢绝cuz 谢绝means谢谢拒绝
先声明这只是我个人看法，读书不管读到多高他都只是一张文凭出社会还要靠自己，但是读书他能让你的语言能力比人家优势。就我来做例子我觉得读书是浪费时间读了3年得到的还是一张纸，但是当我做销售时顾客说英文我完全回答不上。当然还有一些情况是，不可以把有工作经验5年和刚读完5年的来做比较。
Can we ask Sai about his uni life in Japan???
Zus Coffee part xDDD i kenot xDDD
为了dorasnow看完整个影片
國際学校的英语的确口音上跟國民中学不一样
是Sally Dorasnow耶！
Further studies is good if you know what you want to do in the future...make good of your studies....if not...then you will be those with cert but jobless or low salary achiever.....
Westerners parenting or education is different....
Western education yes is better....
But the culture of parenting or kids development its not that good unless your children will be in the States....
My point is you dont need westerner culture if you are staying in Malaysia....white people parenting or child development is one of the worst top 10 in the world of culture....
From my opinion UNI only gate if you ask me who i will hire? A person with more experienced or fresh PHD holder? For sure I will choose with more experience as he/she know the basic
Tarumt not college anymore like hokkien mee not dai luk mee
thanks for sharing all
press F for the guy that study Quantity Survey"
If I got a choice again, I'd put all my money into bitcoin.
yesss the cat is the most important thing😭
手艺要练习，知识要阅读
如果你有能力可以读就读大学，因为错过了就不能再回来学习了。只要你还活着，随时都可以找到钱。
果然UM IS ONE
看到一半，突然间tu 一下，很影响观看体验
simonboy的lagi best
我不会去中国读大学很压力可是我去中国旅行😂
zomok 没有TARUMT IT的。。。。。。
很重要。因为比较容易移民海外😂
Narrator is Dennis?
No, try guess one more time
温室里的花朵是不可能成为一位成功的老板的，老板都是被逼出来的，明白我的意思吗？😏
nowadays kindergarten is pre-society.
TARUC become TARUMT ( university) liao
和挖鼻孔一样重要。
can i know what is your cup size
lai usm 采访 woi penang lang
Be athletes and become a worldwide professional player.
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其实我们wabikong不只是做那种sohai
什么sarawak laksa，penang laksa 这样的东西
我们还有更深奥的这一面 例如johor laksa
Zomok你们请杨丞琳来访问😁😁😂😂
看了很多感触 好片