@@herskind1364 if you feel good about paying lobster money to get the bare minimum, stale bread and rancid butter then you accept that indoctrination and do you. ✌️
@@zahirsookoor2673 im fine with paying alot of money for a service that would alternatively not be provited at all if i didnt live in the system i live in now. People like you will never be able to understand the befinit of a great and strong welfare system, if you havent tried it for yourselves. Remember - Its true that millionaires couldnt care less about which healthcare system they live in, since they have the money for the most top class service anyways. But regular people like us will never be able to get the service this guy is talking abt in the video. NEVER. The system i get now is well worth the price i pay for it.
Ive listened to then for over a week. Im totally different now and im closer to achieving what ive been trying to do for years so i gotta give props to them they are motivating as fuck
I can confirm. My dad had stage 4 cancer almost incurable. Had what I thought would be my last Christmas dinner and was heart broken. He went off to a foreign country and they cured him, it was a miracle! I'm so thankful he's still here. It didn't even cost that much either
I can't believe I never knew about this. The Tate brothers have really woken us up to how badly we are getting screwed, and then given us a way out. God bless them
@@jotarokujo9242 I dont have to be a genius to know some basic things.. that u get better things cost more money.. and public healtcare isnt the greatest and is on budget. There are expensive live saving operations that it doesnt cover. So obv being rich is great, dont have to wait in lines for months/years
I'm very grateful for my EX who left me after 5 yrs and jumped into another relationship straight away and bring her new BF to our home and share our bed when i was absent. I'm grateful because i discovered andrew and tristan after that horrible break up and now my life is changing to better.
@@pigged_ Thank you, i appreciate, it hurts ego a lot ! but we need to keep our worth and self esteem and boost them from our inside and not from a bitch's choices ...
I feel for you man. How you react to this trauma (positively or negatively) is going to be the path for the rest of your life. Take care of yourself, eat well, hit the gym, find a mma gym, work on your finances. The girls will come. The path of self pity, drugs and alcoholism will destroy you. Last week I was living in my car. This week I am enjoying time with the most beautiful girl from work that all the other guys and girls envy. Life is strange and weird shit happens but just keep on going. Things will work themselves out if you continue to work hard and fight through the bad times
@@lanikinlywalker4596 Thank you a lot for your support man ! And yes as a man we should do what we are supposed to do and not what we desire / want to do ! Today i had a bad mood with a lot of negative thoughts about my past relationship but i hit the gym, i prepared my meals for tomorrow and i'm in a good mood now. We keep pushing forward ! Thank you
It's just like when a normal guy tears his ACL vs when a professional sportsman does the same. A pro footballer will be able to play at the same level in 1 year, whereas the average dude might not even fully recover in 10 years.
I just got my acl surgery 3 days ago. Atleast we in germany have health care. Im really not that financially stable and if I was in the US now. I simply couldn’t afford that kind of a surgery rn. Maybe I would have walked with a torn acl the rest of my life. Ofc a pro footballer gets a next level treatment 1. its his job 2. hes most likely a millionaire. Im gonna recover fully in like 12-18 months from my surgery. Pros in like 6-9 months. Don’t forget atleast we have that bread and butter from the government. Its better than nothing.
thats kind of different, yes obviously theres specialists for the recovery, but the thing is the pro footballer will jump on shit tons of peptides and hormones to recover a lot faster. most of them arent even THAT expensive its just people dont really know about it
With a normal salarie in my field a health insurance cost of 600-1000€ per month is normal (als selbstständiger). Quick google check tells me ACL surgery cost could've been paid off in 3-5 years. There is no free meal. Personally I'd rather save my own money myself and avoid paying for bureaucracy cost of health insurance AND cofinancing fat people's lifestyle.
@@sucukmitei5436 same as the nhs brother it is decent that its there for the smaller sorta stuff but the bigger sorta stuff you get waiting lists, lesser doctors/surgeon's and im sure even in some places in the uk they charge you for certain things. What im trying to say is its good but not great in theory we should be getting better but its getting worse. So in my opinion theres people out there running stuff who are about ruining the shit rather than bettering it and in theory aswell we can change it but there is far more dumb people than smart or even a better wae to say it progressive to regressive
@@sucukmitei5436 forgot to say you are 100% right about the pro stuff qnd money im not anoyed about them getting better stuff purely as you said its their job and its in the top shelf of money/fame category of life so obvcourse thats right and i even as a celtic fc fan wish the doctors amd staff had even more money and resources to excel the team
Im fron switzerland and one thing we have over here is called "immuntherapie" its not chemo but more like training your body to fight it off. Has really much less side effects. Actually everything he says is true.
My father just died 3 weeks ago in cancer. The name of the cancer was myeloma. He did push it for 4 years. He was a very strong man. He was just 51. I wish I could find this video earlier.
This hits fucking hard. I'm danish, we've "healthcare" & my dad died exactly 7 days ago to aggressive lung cancer... It all went so fucking fast and they stopped the treatmeant because "it didn't work"... ffs dude
My mom passed from cancer and she was at a good hospital. Some fat nurses, unhealthy food being served, sometimes taking forever to get help to come to the room even in an emergency, and people making plenty of mistakes along the way. There were plenty of traumatic experiences that I wish on no one. The one positive is it really scared me into getting my health together because I realized how incompetent people were.
The problem with free healthcare is that when you’re not the one paying for your own healthcare, and it’s the government who pays for everybody’s, your not their main priority. They’re on a budget, they can’t Just waist their money on you. Everyone will therefore be provided with a mediocre service…
Jeez atleast you don't live in southafrica where you gotta pay a doctor an arm or a leg, i came into a government hospital with a heart attack (as a white guy) and i got laughed at and was told to take a seat, i was outside praying and asked people to call my family, they laughed. I'd take uk healthcare in a heartbeat, no pun intended lol
Same in Switzerland bro. My mom got a 400 bill for just being told "the toothache is not serious. It will go away. If it doesn't, please call us again"
@@conker2967 "Please call us again so we can charge you another 400." tbf the dentist I go to in the UK has always been great, I can't complain about my dentist.
Honestly the amount of worship in the comments just shows me why so many men struggle today. Anyone here with their jaw hanging from this information is a mouth breather.
I like Tristan, but he's setting up a false premise here. The chemo we have in our "basic" healthcare is very much decent and it has raised the survival rate and prognosis of patients who have been diagnosed with cancer substantially over the years. It's very much evidence-based and a treatment that will fare decently well depending on your diagnosis. To say you have *no* healthcare is a bold statement, it's more fair to say you have decent healthcare, but the rich have it better; and that latter part is true.
Except you all missed the basic premiss....... How mutch the taxes are paying for "chemo", we are getting cheeseburgers in Sweden insted of a full Tripple Mcheese with fries and coca cola.
@@arkonem2933 yer that was a huge overexageration in his part , now in the usa there are people thay actually have NO healthcare, like truly none. And rich people here still die from chemo soo there are holes in his understanding of the healthcare system. I get what he was trying to get at but he exaggerated.
@@pejv7903 you probably can see the same example with you not donating much money( in proportion to how much you have) to the needy. This is simply on a business scale
@@emmioglukant right, but the needy likely wont die because of the lack of my donations and the 'needy' could prob do something about it if they really cared
Bruh America doesn't have universal healthcare. The gap in American and Canadian/British healthcare quality is dimensions apart. Although being privatised also means it is exploitative and as expensive as it gets. Both have their pros and cons ig
I'm sorry I like the tate brother's, but this is just straight unfounded hearsay. Yes some healthcares are better than others, but you're not necessarily much better off if you throw money at the problem. If you do this you're almost certainly being scammed or being treated with some unproven treatment that won't do shit for you.
look after yourself holistically manage stress, eat whole food, good sleep, exercise and pray. Anything you’ve been told by THEY SAY do the opposite. Seek out a good naturopath and stay away from your GP for general Health. The NHS are good but only for emergencies!! Don’t be fooled the doctor will treat you to death!!! Take care of your own health. Prevention is cheaper than the cure!!! Have a beautiful day.
There are 100 types of chemotherapy and 7 of them are important ones. In most cases of cancer 2-3 can be used and easily effective. Alkylating agents. Antimetabolites. Anti-tumor antibiotics. Do some basic research first. Topoisomerase inhibitors.
Yeah tates opinion is cringe. Private healthcare > socialised healthcare when it comes to the individual. This is true. However... 1) changes in Standard of care have massively improved and will continue to improve survival rates, especially for all of us plebs on socialised healthcare. 2) NHS also pay for routine screening services to capture the tumour in its early stages. 3) radiation and surgery are also used. I think surgery is done in about 50% of patients in the UK.: Radiation in combination with immunotherapy is available on the NHS. But there are issues with dosage and schedule optimisation. And now add in DNA damage response pathway inhibitors, targeted therapies, CAR-T cells, bivalent antibodies etc. All of these are undergoing clinical trials in various countries under socialised medical programmes. The gap between private and socialised healthcare cancer survival rates will probably decrease over time.
It's true, I know someone who does the research for this tech and has been for a few years now. Amazing stuff, even based on a full sequence of your DNA too for different immune therapies.
I have a family member battling stage 4 cancer that has spread through kidneys and intestine track. I would really like to know what this special treatment is called in Switzerland or dubia and how much it costs!
The only person I know that've died of cancer who was very famous and important was Steve Jobs. But just like Tristian said, it just makes your chances of survival much, much higher; Jobs had a rare kind of cancer which ultimately lead to his death
The reason Jobs died is because he denied to have any actual treatment for his cancer when he learned about the news. The cancer he got was very rare and very treatable, but he didn’t want to go through surgery for it. Instead, he spent a lot of time trying “nature” remedies for cancer, and they obviously didn’t work. By the time he was ok with undergoing surgery and chemo, it was too late.
@@farouqalsalih619 correct. Steve Jobs had every available cancer treatment available, and he went with "juice fasting". But he was a terrible person in his personal life, so he got what he deserved...
In the end health care is better for the poor. Bcz it’s better to have the bread and butter then to starve. Nowadays u see people in America run out of the ambulance Bcz they can’t afford to pay for the trip lol. Even with charity organisations helping as much as they can. In the end. All things consider. Everyone is on the same bread and butter. Except one comes out of ur pocket and the other one doesn’t (it comes from a portion of ur taxes)
I mean this is kinda dumb. Rich ppl can afford better healthcare who wud have thought? Also "thank god I have the NHS", yes some countries dont have even the bread and butter
easy answer to that question steve jobs. May he rest in peace. Although I heard he chose to use natural treatments instead of chemo , I dont know if chemo would've helped him but the route he chose or maybe the cancer he had sadly didnt work out for him.
he had pancreatic cancer.. one of THE hardest cancers to treat with minimal chance of surviving after reaching a certain stage.. Fuck cancer in particular and may every single soul out there battling this disease be freed from it 🙌
@@Baandera- i agree, sadly my grandpa died from lynmphoma, amazingly my parents beat prostate and breast cancer hopefully it wont return. I think from family history if I'm lucky at all but still have to worry I will be old before i could get cancer but man fuck cancer.
@@Baandera- He also nuked his pancreas for years with a ridiculous "fruitarian" diet. A journalist tried the diet of Steve Jobs as a fun experiment and got hospitalized with pancreatic issues.
Maybe the chances of survival are higher and he's right on that, but at the same time, there's still a bad enough chance you won't survive. I think when he ended on that point it was wrong and detracted from the truth of that. Up until he said that, he may actually be right.
Chadwick Boseman wasn't a multimillionaire. His net worth barely reached 4 mils, so his liquid cash would be definitely under 1 mil. And he literally said that there are types of cancers that are uncurable. But what he said here is 100% true. There are programs that are available only to those who pay a shit ton of money to cure you from cancer. And the chances they give you are significantly higher. Switzerland, UAE, USA and many more countries in Europe have these kinds of programs.
Only applies to some countries not all of europe. For example in sweden healthcare is worse than Italy but it is still far superior than anything u get in America unless u are a multi millionaire or billionaire.
@@goblue2155 keep saying that bro maybe one day it will become true, hate to break it to you but we have some of the best if you have money, and if you don't have money they still treat you, and you can just default on the payment its really not that big of a deal
@@commentaccount7880 and defaulting means your credit is ruined and a potential lien on any property you own. Your life can get totally ruined because of healthcare bills...
This simply isn't true. I am a medical resident in Spain (we have a national health care system similar to NHS). Cancer is biopsied and treatment is chosen based on the type of cancer. The steps in treatment and chemotherapy offered are the exact same for the rich and the poor. It would be straight up negligible to offer chemotherapy to a cancer patient without obtaining a biopsy beforehand to figure out what subtype of cancer it is to know which chemotherapy option will be more successful. I simply don't believe the NHS would be so negligible. In Spain we have free public healthcare for all and this is the way cancer is treated. This guy doesn't seem to really know what he is talking about.
I think he was talking about the UK or england not any other place as other places are probably better i mean thats why people go out of country ( UK ) to get treatment and usually works out
@@back-titration-fan6436 I know its unlikely you would trust me since we don't know each other but I can assure you that I work at a private hospital where most of our patients are "wealthy" and the outcomes for cancers are usually not great. Of course it depends on the type of cancer. A non-melanoma skin cancer is usually a cake walk. But a late stage pancreatic or some lung cancers are a deathwish for almost everybody independently of whether you are poor or rich because they are very resistant to chemotherapy and we don't have great tools to treat these patients yet. I don't believe being rich or poor significantly changes the therapy or outcomes significantly, at least not in my country Spain.
I Dont understand he said America doesnt have healthcarw to it because you have to pay, and then explains how real healthcare is extremely expensive if you can pay for it, makes no sense
Well you have totaly have a lack of knowledge thats for sure....... He said in GENERALLY - AMERICA DONT HAVE TAXES LIKE ETC SCANDIAVIEN COUNTRIES HAS. - BUT EVEN SCANDIANIVIEN COUNTRIES WITH HIGH TAXES JUST GIVES A BASIC CANCER TREATMENT - COMPARED TO A RICH INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN GET TREATMENT AND PRIVATE SPECIALISTS THAT IS BEYOND BASIC TREATMENTS FROM THE STATE........... IT MAKES SENSE NOW ?
@@el29 I undestand the difference from places that have universal healthcare to America, i dont see the diference from the real healtchare he talked about that is extremely sophisticated and extremely expensive only for the elite, for me that sounds just like America healthcare
Bread and butter doesn’t sound so bad when the alternative is dying of starvation and dying of cancer and doing nothing about it is not better than not getting chemotherapy. Yeah I can tell the Tate brothers are rich because they’re out touch with the poor lmao.
People talking about other rich people who died unfortunately: to have the money to get to this kind of medical care is one thing but to know that this actually exists is another thing. Second, it will ease your pain and suffering but it wont allways work 100%
There's a reason most countries with universal healthcare also still have health insurance to let people afford better care. The universal part is just providing the bare minimum which is still a net positive.
Mateschitz strictly refused treatment with chemotherapy And with Jobs no surgery was possible because he didn't want to at first and when he did it it was too late (according to Google)
Hi guys can someone guide to me where can I find the best place to look out for this treatment I have a friend with terminal brain tumour and I need to reach this to help him
Guys how can I reach that hospital or medical center doing that chemo-therapy, or how can I reach Tristan? a relative of mine ready to pay any amount and urgently needs it.
but people in UK got their basic health covered. not every diseases is as devastating as cancer. the people in UK probably didn't have to pay for bone surgery, caesaran section, while in US if you don't have insurance you'll have to pay up to 100k. Doctors obligated to inform the patient about the best medication or procedure. whether it's covered by the UHC or not it's not their problem BUT they'll have to inform the patient about the best procedure.
I mean you can't really blame the government for it though. Its impossible to do such a thorough treatment that involves literally replicating the tumor in a lab for every patient. That's like asking the government to provide every citizen with free luxury super expensive food.
That bread and butter analogy perfectly summed it up
Government cheese
@@Ruffles2012 lol
rather have bread and butter then nothing at all tho
@@herskind1364 if you feel good about
paying lobster money to get the bare minimum, stale bread and rancid butter then you accept that indoctrination and do you. ✌️
@@zahirsookoor2673 im fine with paying alot of money for a service that would alternatively not be provited at all if i didnt live in the system i live in now. People like you will never be able to understand the befinit of a great and strong welfare system, if you havent tried it for yourselves.
Remember - Its true that millionaires couldnt care less about which healthcare system they live in, since they have the money for the most top class service anyways. But regular people like us will never be able to get the service this guy is talking abt in the video. NEVER. The system i get now is well worth the price i pay for it.
I gotta admit Andrew and his brother changed my mind and my mental state so much. They achieved something in me, no mental coach or therapist could do
Ive listened to then for over a week. Im totally different now and im closer to achieving what ive been trying to do for years so i gotta give props to them they are motivating as fuck
Me too
Therapy is a total and utter scam. And if anyone does decide to get therapy never let them “medicate” drug you. Source: 5 years of therapy in my teens
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Have you ever been to a therapist?
protect this man at all costs.
worry about yourself, kiddo.
@@lol6434 bro says kiddo while hating on a random ass person on the internet for no reason. shush you clown.
He don’t need your damn protection
If you read about David Koch, you know this is true. He was given 5 months to live with stage 4 cancer and lived almost 3 more decades.
Poor guy
Rich guy
I know one of his relatives
@@narayasuiryoku1397 which one?
@@matrixdue879 is there a way to make this private?
I can confirm. My dad had stage 4 cancer almost incurable. Had what I thought would be my last Christmas dinner and was heart broken. He went off to a foreign country and they cured him, it was a miracle! I'm so thankful he's still here. It didn't even cost that much either
I am so glad. To which country he was sent?
What country was it?
Hey, my mom is battling stage 4 lung cancer now, would you tell me what helped ur dad?
Give us the country name
huge cap lmao
I can't believe I never knew about this. The Tate brothers have really woken us up to how badly we are getting screwed, and then given us a way out. God bless them
What didnt u know.. ok if u didnt know about chemotherapy.. but if u didnt know that u get alot better healthcare with money then ur not the smartest
@@sanderkonto297 sorry bro not everyone is a genius like you. im sure you know more about the world than tristan tate himself.
@@jotarokujo9242 I dont have to be a genius to know some basic things.. that u get better things cost more money.. and public healtcare isnt the greatest and is on budget. There are expensive live saving operations that it doesnt cover. So obv being rich is great, dont have to wait in lines for months/years
Their whole philosophy is psychopathic "F*ck you, I got mine."
Also they're grifters who prey on stupid people to make money.
Ho, Jotaro!
Being rich truely is a neccesity in this day and age.
I'm very grateful for my EX who left me after 5 yrs and jumped into another relationship straight away and bring her new BF to our home and share our bed when i was absent. I'm grateful because i discovered andrew and tristan after that horrible break up and now my life is changing to better.
@@pigged_ Thank you, i appreciate, it hurts ego a lot ! but we need to keep our worth and self esteem and boost them from our inside and not from a bitch's choices ...
@@Greeky-y2w similar thing happened to me friend; just move on my guy fck them hoes
Stay strong my friend.
I feel for you man. How you react to this trauma (positively or negatively) is going to be the path for the rest of your life. Take care of yourself, eat well, hit the gym, find a mma gym, work on your finances. The girls will come. The path of self pity, drugs and alcoholism will destroy you.
Last week I was living in my car. This week I am enjoying time with the most beautiful girl from work that all the other guys and girls envy. Life is strange and weird shit happens but just keep on going. Things will work themselves out if you continue to work hard and fight through the bad times
@@lanikinlywalker4596 Thank you a lot for your support man ! And yes as a man we should do what we are supposed to do and not what we desire / want to do ! Today i had a bad mood with a lot of negative thoughts about my past relationship but i hit the gym, i prepared my meals for tomorrow and i'm in a good mood now. We keep pushing forward ! Thank you
Hes spot on here. The treatment rich people get is next level.
It's just like when a normal guy tears his ACL vs when a professional sportsman does the same. A pro footballer will be able to play at the same level in 1 year, whereas the average dude might not even fully recover in 10 years.
I just got my acl surgery 3 days ago. Atleast we in germany have health care. Im really not that financially stable and if I was in the US now. I simply couldn’t afford that kind of a surgery rn. Maybe I would have walked with a torn acl the rest of my life. Ofc a pro footballer gets a next level treatment 1. its his job 2. hes most likely a millionaire.
Im gonna recover fully in like 12-18 months from my surgery. Pros in like 6-9 months.
Don’t forget atleast we have that bread and butter from the government. Its better than nothing.
thats kind of different, yes obviously theres specialists for the recovery, but the thing is the pro footballer will jump on shit tons of peptides and hormones to recover a lot faster. most of them arent even THAT expensive its just people dont really know about it
With a normal salarie in my field a health insurance cost of 600-1000€ per month is normal (als selbstständiger). Quick google check tells me ACL surgery cost could've been paid off in 3-5 years.
There is no free meal. Personally I'd rather save my own money myself and avoid paying for bureaucracy cost of health insurance AND cofinancing fat people's lifestyle.
@@sucukmitei5436 same as the nhs brother it is decent that its there for the smaller sorta stuff but the bigger sorta stuff you get waiting lists, lesser doctors/surgeon's and im sure even in some places in the uk they charge you for certain things. What im trying to say is its good but not great in theory we should be getting better but its getting worse. So in my opinion theres people out there running stuff who are about ruining the shit rather than bettering it and in theory aswell we can change it but there is far more dumb people than smart or even a better wae to say it progressive to regressive
@@sucukmitei5436 forgot to say you are 100% right about the pro stuff qnd money im not anoyed about them getting better stuff purely as you said its their job and its in the top shelf of money/fame category of life so obvcourse thats right and i even as a celtic fc fan wish the doctors amd staff had even more money and resources to excel the team
Im fron switzerland and one thing we have over here is called "immuntherapie" its not chemo but more like training your body to fight it off. Has really much less side effects. Actually everything he says is true.
My father just died 3 weeks ago in cancer. The name of the cancer was myeloma. He did push it for 4 years. He was a very strong man. He was just 51.
I wish I could find this video earlier.
It’s all good man he’s in a better place proud of you. God loves you brother and so do I ❤
He should provide us more with this kind of knowledge this is rare valuable shit
This is common sense lol
lol ...like you can afford the other 96 types of chemo
The fact that he knows about the physiological basis is commendable.
This hits fucking hard. I'm danish, we've "healthcare" & my dad died exactly 7 days ago to aggressive lung cancer... It all went so fucking fast and they stopped the treatmeant because "it didn't work"... ffs dude
My mom passed from cancer and she was at a good hospital. Some fat nurses, unhealthy food being served, sometimes taking forever to get help to come to the room even in an emergency, and people making plenty of mistakes along the way. There were plenty of traumatic experiences that I wish on no one. The one positive is it really scared me into getting my health together because I realized how incompetent people were.
@@NellyK01 I'm sorry for your loss brother but you are right people are incompetent and greedy
The problem with free healthcare is that when you’re not the one paying for your own healthcare, and it’s the government who pays for everybody’s, your not their main priority.
They’re on a budget, they can’t Just waist their money on you.
Everyone will therefore be provided with a mediocre service…
And yet the life expectancy for European countries is higher than the Us
@@insight1428 but it’s not a quality problem, it’s an accessibility one…
The Tate Brothers are just admirable!!! Gotta love them !!!
Jeez atleast you don't live in southafrica where you gotta pay a doctor an arm or a leg, i came into a government hospital with a heart attack (as a white guy) and i got laughed at and was told to take a seat, i was outside praying and asked people to call my family, they laughed.
I'd take uk healthcare in a heartbeat, no pun intended lol
Why you bringing race into it? And you live in a hot country what did you expect choosing to live there, no wonder they laughed lmao
@@slickrick2420 What are you talking about?
@@JacobFBG He's making it about race, can't you read?
how are u alive
@@ArteeSZN probably god bro.
When’s the last time you heard of someone really rich dying of cancer…. R.I.P Chadwick Boseman
Look at his networth bro , that don’t even count🙂
he might be famous, but he aint making that much. adin ross is even richer than Chadwick. sadly.
@@perspicacitynews he definitely could have afforded it
Let's not forget about Steve Jobs
@@AbadudeOfdudes they just talk smack , i mean ye if you go by that sure richer people leave longer but thats not 100% the case.
They are trying to charge my bro $500 just for some toothache medicine
they buggin
@@merci6015 Yup and these people who think they are the wrong gender get free hospital attention what since does that make
Same in Switzerland bro. My mom got a 400 bill for just being told "the toothache is not serious. It will go away. If it doesn't, please call us again"
@@conker2967 Facts We aren't going to pay that shlt anyway
@@conker2967 "Please call us again so we can charge you another 400."
tbf the dentist I go to in the UK has always been great, I can't complain about my dentist.
Honestly the amount of worship in the comments just shows me why so many men struggle today.
Anyone here with their jaw hanging from this information is a mouth breather.
not just cancer, stem cells too
also, preventive medicine which is even more important
It was 10yrs ago
Slight correction. He is actually talking about immunotherapy. Not Chemo.
Two words… Chadwick boseman Rip the legend
obviously, taxpayers wouldn't pay for that kind of treatment in a public healthcare system, the bare minimum is better than nothing at all
Of course
I like Tristan, but he's setting up a false premise here. The chemo we have in our "basic" healthcare is very much decent and it has raised the survival rate and prognosis of patients who have been diagnosed with cancer substantially over the years. It's very much evidence-based and a treatment that will fare decently well depending on your diagnosis. To say you have *no* healthcare is a bold statement, it's more fair to say you have decent healthcare, but the rich have it better; and that latter part is true.
Except you all missed the basic premiss....... How mutch the taxes are paying for "chemo", we are getting cheeseburgers in Sweden insted of a full Tripple Mcheese with fries and coca cola.
@@arkonem2933 thankyou for the explanation.
@@arkonem2933 yer that was a huge overexageration in his part , now in the usa there are people thay actually have NO healthcare, like truly none. And rich people here still die from chemo soo there are holes in his understanding of the healthcare system. I get what he was trying to get at but he exaggerated.
Holy shit man i never knew about this shit, this fucking world is a dark asf place
Is just supply and demand. Not really dark
@@bigboner23 it is dark, because if saving someone was more important than milking the like a slave they would make sure everyone gets this treatment.
@@pejv7903 you probably can see the same example with you not donating much money( in proportion to how much you have) to the needy. This is simply on a business scale
@@emmioglukant right, but the needy likely wont die because of the lack of my donations and the 'needy' could prob do something about it if they really cared
@@pejv7903 I beg to differ. Although much progress has been made, there are still too many people struggling with hunger and thirst
I had a friend pass away from cancer this year, rest in peace C.B 🍀
"prevention is better than cure" is all I'd agree to even when i become a multimillionaire
Better basic than none. But being rich definetly brings you better one
Americans have to pay thousands for the "bread and butter" and then preach that having universal bread and butter will topple the economy 🙃
Bruh America doesn't have universal healthcare. The gap in American and Canadian/British healthcare quality is dimensions apart. Although being privatised also means it is exploitative and as expensive as it gets. Both have their pros and cons ig
Idk in california if you poor you get all of it free
@@AEE29I the U.S. not having universal health care is one of the reasons it's the laughing stock of the world
@@wadalala4758 yea Cali sux tho. Fix your homeless problem
But that is the opposite of what Tate just said.
“Universal health care” is the exact bread and butter he’s talking about.
We have to be wealthy to protect our loved ones .
My grandparent both died of cancer
But I will change everything .
Tristan basically said: Ultra Super Very basic entry level of "Health Care" that you can imagine 😎
Living life on your own terms lowers your risk of developing cancer significantly.
This hit me deep, as grandma just died to chemo (probably) last friday
I'm sorry I like the tate brother's, but this is just straight unfounded hearsay. Yes some healthcares are better than others, but you're not necessarily much better off if you throw money at the problem. If you do this you're almost certainly being scammed or being treated with some unproven treatment that won't do shit for you.
look after yourself holistically manage stress, eat whole food, good sleep, exercise and pray. Anything you’ve been told by THEY SAY do the opposite. Seek out a good naturopath and stay away from your GP for general Health. The NHS are good but only for emergencies!! Don’t be fooled the doctor will treat you to death!!! Take care of your own health. Prevention is cheaper than the cure!!!
Have a beautiful day.
Saunas, Ice baths, and fasting too! Our bodies are meant to fight this shit off.
@@zachrat9083 absolutely 👍
Delusional
@@jackmanga9548 so are you!
@@jackmanga9548 so are you big Pharma shill!
"Some cancers is untreatable"
Fuck... Cancers terrifying, bro.
Word in fact the NHS had its funding cut by the government. Tate is right
Rip Chadwick boseman
There are 100 types of chemotherapy and 7 of them are important ones. In most cases of cancer 2-3 can be used and easily effective.
Alkylating agents.
Antimetabolites.
Anti-tumor antibiotics.
Do some basic research first.
Topoisomerase inhibitors.
@@jakmcintosh do some research! that's what I have written.
Yeah tates opinion is cringe. Private healthcare > socialised healthcare when it comes to the individual. This is true. However...
1) changes in Standard of care have massively improved and will continue to improve survival rates, especially for all of us plebs on socialised healthcare.
2) NHS also pay for routine screening services to capture the tumour in its early stages.
3) radiation and surgery are also used. I think surgery is done in about 50% of patients in the UK.:
Radiation in combination with immunotherapy is available on the NHS. But
there are issues with dosage and schedule optimisation.
And now add in DNA damage response pathway inhibitors, targeted therapies, CAR-T cells, bivalent antibodies etc. All of these are undergoing clinical trials in various countries under socialised medical programmes.
The gap between private and socialised healthcare cancer survival rates will probably decrease over time.
@@somedude1666 great 👍
Rip Stefan Karl. He was number one
i would say technoblade but tht was in america
Answer: Chadwick Boseman
Technoblade..👏 RIP. Honestly.
It's true, I know someone who does the research for this tech and has been for a few years now. Amazing stuff, even based on a full sequence of your DNA too for different immune therapies.
I have a family member battling stage 4 cancer that has spread through kidneys and intestine track. I would really like to know what this special treatment is called in Switzerland or dubia and how much it costs!
I comment here to get more reach and to know if someone knows too eventually
The only person I know that've died of cancer who was very famous and important was Steve Jobs. But just like Tristian said, it just makes your chances of survival much, much higher; Jobs had a rare kind of cancer which ultimately lead to his death
The reason Jobs died is because he denied to have any actual treatment for his cancer when he learned about the news. The cancer he got was very rare and very treatable, but he didn’t want to go through surgery for it. Instead, he spent a lot of time trying “nature” remedies for cancer, and they obviously didn’t work. By the time he was ok with undergoing surgery and chemo, it was too late.
@@farouqalsalih619 correct. Steve Jobs had every available cancer treatment available, and he went with "juice fasting". But he was a terrible person in his personal life, so he got what he deserved...
Better basic decent healthcare than none at all or at a very high cost. No shit rich people can get better treatments.
For the last question:
Steve Jobs died of pancreatic cancer
Exactly. Same in Australia
In the end health care is better for the poor. Bcz it’s better to have the bread and butter then to starve. Nowadays u see people in America run out of the ambulance Bcz they can’t afford to pay for the trip lol.
Even with charity organisations helping as much as they can.
In the end. All things consider. Everyone is on the same bread and butter. Except one comes out of ur pocket and the other one doesn’t (it comes from a portion of ur taxes)
I mean this is kinda dumb. Rich ppl can afford better healthcare who wud have thought? Also "thank god I have the NHS", yes some countries dont have even the bread and butter
easy answer to that question steve jobs. May he rest in peace. Although I heard he chose to use natural treatments instead of chemo , I dont know if chemo would've helped him but the route he chose or maybe the cancer he had sadly didnt work out for him.
he had pancreatic cancer.. one of THE hardest cancers to treat with minimal chance of surviving after reaching a certain stage..
Fuck cancer in particular and may every single soul out there battling this disease be freed from it 🙌
@@Baandera- i agree, sadly my grandpa died from lynmphoma, amazingly my parents beat prostate and breast cancer hopefully it wont return. I think from family history if I'm lucky at all but still have to worry I will be old before i could get cancer but man fuck cancer.
He refused treatment lol
@@Baandera- He also nuked his pancreas for years with a ridiculous "fruitarian" diet. A journalist tried the diet of Steve Jobs as a fun experiment and got hospitalized with pancreatic issues.
@@anon_private_user frutarian disease nukes the liver not the pancreas...
answer to his last question: STEVE JOBS
patrick swayze died from cancer, Chadwick Boseman, David Bowie, Marlon brando... sometimes the Tate's brother are just full of shit
Maybe the chances of survival are higher and he's right on that, but at the same time, there's still a bad enough chance you won't survive. I think when he ended on that point it was wrong and detracted from the truth of that. Up until he said that, he may actually be right.
Chadwick Boseman wasn't a multimillionaire. His net worth barely reached 4 mils, so his liquid cash would be definitely under 1 mil. And he literally said that there are types of cancers that are uncurable. But what he said here is 100% true. There are programs that are available only to those who pay a shit ton of money to cure you from cancer. And the chances they give you are significantly higher. Switzerland, UAE, USA and many more countries in Europe have these kinds of programs.
You have to wait months and years to get that entry level treatment these days
if only technoblade knew about this...
Only applies to some countries not all of europe.
For example in sweden healthcare is worse than Italy but it is still far superior than anything u get in America unless u are a multi millionaire or billionaire.
Basically if u are rich no matter where, u got top notch healthcare.
My dads sister died in cancer, he is totally right, it gets better every year but not good enough for us in Sweden.
Better than American healthcare
@@goblue2155 keep saying that bro maybe one day it will become true, hate to break it to you but we have some of the best if you have money, and if you don't have money they still treat you, and you can just default on the payment its really not that big of a deal
@@commentaccount7880 american fanboy moment
@@Quintenx American with money moment, xd euro poors
@@commentaccount7880 and defaulting means your credit is ruined and a potential lien on any property you own. Your life can get totally ruined because of healthcare bills...
I’ll answer it. Steve Jobs, John McCain, Ruth Bader Ginsburg
...Steve Jobs?
but yeah there's less famous people dying of it than i thought
This simply isn't true. I am a medical resident in Spain (we have a national health care system similar to NHS). Cancer is biopsied and treatment is chosen based on the type of cancer. The steps in treatment and chemotherapy offered are the exact same for the rich and the poor. It would be straight up negligible to offer chemotherapy to a cancer patient without obtaining a biopsy beforehand to figure out what subtype of cancer it is to know which chemotherapy option will be more successful. I simply don't believe the NHS would be so negligible. In Spain we have free public healthcare for all and this is the way cancer is treated. This guy doesn't seem to really know what he is talking about.
I think he was talking about the UK or england not any other place as other places are probably better i mean thats why people go out of country ( UK ) to get treatment and usually works out
NHS is the lowest quality healthcare
It is like bread and butter, but there is fine steak out there which nhs simply doens't provide
But he got a point tho like which rich person have you heard of that died from cancer?
@@back-titration-fan6436 I know its unlikely you would trust me since we don't know each other but I can assure you that I work at a private hospital where most of our patients are "wealthy" and the outcomes for cancers are usually not great. Of course it depends on the type of cancer. A non-melanoma skin cancer is usually a cake walk. But a late stage pancreatic or some lung cancers are a deathwish for almost everybody independently of whether you are poor or rich because they are very resistant to chemotherapy and we don't have great tools to treat these patients yet. I don't believe being rich or poor significantly changes the therapy or outcomes significantly, at least not in my country Spain.
The music drop when the revelation came. ❤
chadwick boseman.. steve jobs.. kirstie alley
10 out of 10 thousand,
I broke my arm summer last year and made ~5000kr (about 500 dollars) from it. An American would've been in life debt after that
I Dont understand he said America doesnt have healthcarw to it because you have to pay, and then explains how real healthcare is extremely expensive if you can pay for it, makes no sense
Well you have totaly have a lack of knowledge thats for sure.......
He said in GENERALLY - AMERICA DONT HAVE TAXES LIKE ETC SCANDIAVIEN COUNTRIES HAS. - BUT EVEN SCANDIANIVIEN COUNTRIES WITH HIGH TAXES JUST GIVES A BASIC CANCER TREATMENT - COMPARED TO A RICH INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN GET TREATMENT AND PRIVATE SPECIALISTS THAT IS BEYOND BASIC TREATMENTS FROM THE STATE...........
IT MAKES SENSE NOW ?
@@el29 I undestand the difference from places that have universal healthcare to America, i dont see the diference from the real healtchare he talked about that is extremely sophisticated and extremely expensive only for the elite, for me that sounds just like America healthcare
Steve jobs. Pancreatic cancer and he was far far richer than you could even hope to be.
Steve Jobs denied treatment
That ending sentence got me good
And that's explain why rich people aways go on private hospital even if in their countries they have free healthcare
Bread and butter doesn’t sound so bad when the alternative is dying of starvation and dying of cancer and doing nothing about it is not better than not getting chemotherapy.
Yeah I can tell the Tate brothers are rich because they’re out touch with the poor lmao.
It's still good that they provide the bread and butter though. better than the us
People talking about other rich people who died unfortunately: to have the money to get to this kind of medical care is one thing but to know that this actually exists is another thing. Second, it will ease your pain and suffering but it wont allways work 100%
Ok. Fuck the (((medical system)))
My aunt recently died of cancer, leaving her three children orphaned...
Learning about this actually PISSED ME OFF!
I can think of 5 rich celebs that have died from cancer in the past month.
lol, so i guess he's lying unfortunately
give the names then
give the names
all talk and no facts, typical losers
There's a reason most countries with universal healthcare also still have health insurance to let people afford better care. The universal part is just providing the bare minimum which is still a net positive.
2:16 Steve Jobs immediately comes to mind but I get the point. It's possible that his belief in woo rather than inadequate healthcare did him in.
He is right about cancer, but healthcare is supposed to cover the small things like a broken arm so you dont How to pay huge sums for something small
Alan rickman, David Bowie, patrick swayze, Dietrich Mateschitz(a billionaire), Steve Jobs, Ali Banat
Mateschitz strictly refused treatment with chemotherapy And with Jobs no surgery was possible because he didn't want to at first and when he did it it was too late (according to Google)
Moral of the story: become crazy rich to afford better healthcare
i mean technoblade died of cancer R.I.P Legend , wish he couldve gone to switzerland or dubai😢
He said right in this video.
This is a fucked up world we live in
Hi guys can someone guide to me where can I find the best place to look out for this treatment I have a friend with terminal brain tumour and I need to reach this to help him
The Tates need to be protected at all costs.
they can protect themselves, stop being weird
only children could think this is some new mind blowing information.
What? I didnt know that. Why do you feel the need to bring others down?
@@sliceydicey2640 you didn't know that rich people have more things and options?
@@genetix7173 i do. I just thought if you got cancer youre kinda fucked anyway
what color is ur Bugatti?
@@ktolwal 14 years olds on their way to flex another man's car:
Chadwick Boseman
fight till the death to change the world
It's a battle you can't win. If you want to fight, fight your way into the top 1%
David Bowie.
Guys how can I reach that hospital or medical center doing that chemo-therapy, or how can I reach Tristan? a relative of mine ready to pay any amount and urgently needs it.
Here in canada health care is free
ya but it sucks
Chadwick Boseman 🙏
Everyone in Canada constantly gloating ab free healthcare 😂
but people in UK got their basic health covered. not every diseases is as devastating as cancer. the people in UK probably didn't have to pay for bone surgery, caesaran section, while in US if you don't have insurance you'll have to pay up to 100k.
Doctors obligated to inform the patient about the best medication or procedure. whether it's covered by the UHC or not it's not their problem BUT they'll have to inform the patient about the best procedure.
Damn
At first didn't like these tate thing on internet
But this just hit me so hard.. there's so much to ge world out there
And it's cruel
I mean you can't really blame the government for it though. Its impossible to do such a thorough treatment that involves literally replicating the tumor in a lab for every patient. That's like asking the government to provide every citizen with free luxury super expensive food.
Nahhh he actually said "Chemo Chemicals"
Technoblade....
Wow that’s very smart bro.
Technoblade never dies
Since I broke my spine I understand this, free "healthcare" is terrible