Wuthering Waves Echo Substat "Manipulation"?!!

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  • @Haiki..
    @Haiki.. 4 місяці тому +27

    The opening with the tequila sunrise on every video is so funny

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +4

      I’m prepared for the “stans” to come in and try to ruin our fun

  • @felipematheuss
    @felipematheuss 4 місяці тому +12

    At first I was like NO WAY DUDE but seriously I hope we can get enough data to back up this theory

  • @gibb
    @gibb 4 місяці тому +13

    Who is Bernard? To the blind, he is the light. To the hungry, he is bread. To the sick, he is the cure. To the lonely, he is company. To the sad, he is joy. To the prisoner, he is freedom. For the poor, he is treasure. For me, he is everything.

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +2

      Feelin the love with this one. Thanks man

  • @Eleutheria6012
    @Eleutheria6012 4 місяці тому +3

    The 3rd time you did it, I understood how it worked, try it out on my own and it really does work, it works when you absorb echoes too, I now have 4 critrate dreamless echoes in a row, thanks dude

    • @GamerMon0
      @GamerMon0 4 місяці тому

      u the one from the discord right=? hahha cool cool

    • @Eleutheria6012
      @Eleutheria6012 4 місяці тому +1

      @@GamerMon0 Yeah, the main stat guy HAHAHA

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      ya the one issue left is the 3 cost echos. team of chefs happening on discord right now. im loving it

  • @DavidJoyTap
    @DavidJoyTap 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you very much for your effort and also for the effort of the team. You guys are incredible!

  • @player0fcardz
    @player0fcardz 4 місяці тому +7

    Let's go! Nice to see you in this game

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +3

      the gameplay is more me and reminded me of fighting games like marvel vs capcom. the whole switching and parrying

    • @player0fcardz
      @player0fcardz 4 місяці тому +2

      @@BigBoiPnoy definitely a fresh type of combat in a gacha game. Esp when someone showed Jiyan kara cancel and people just went crazy over it

  • @Ssn-bc1kz
    @Ssn-bc1kz 4 місяці тому +1

    DAMN! I tested and this method really works smooth. Also, i lerned some timings tuning a bunch of my echoes, Atk% and the specific atk's are on the end 4, while Base Atk, Crit Rate and Crit Dmg are on the start of five 5, for anyone who wants an specific stat.

    • @treezen522
      @treezen522 4 місяці тому

      Can you elaborate more? I still don't understand a bit. So if I want to get Crit. Rate or crit dmg, I have to click when the timing is like 25, 35, 45 and etc right?

    • @treezen522
      @treezen522 4 місяці тому

      Nah, when i pressed tune button at the end of 4, most of the time i got HP

  • @daru9653
    @daru9653 4 місяці тому +7

    WOOORRRDD (I got a really good piece using the data from the discord already lol)

  • @GANON_DORIYAH
    @GANON_DORIYAH 4 місяці тому +1

    Honestly was waiting for this kind of video. Thanks for your work!

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Here to help all gacha gamers RNG

  • @Frou-hsr
    @Frou-hsr 4 місяці тому +2

    I've been recording my rolls and I think the type of substats repeat more or less in the same pattern for the 1 costs and 3/4 costs respectively

  • @NCG420
    @NCG420 4 місяці тому +3

    I thought my characters were built good but after seeing yours I'm sad like how, but jokes aside W video will be waiting for the next one so I can get better echos.

  • @shinsen16
    @shinsen16 4 місяці тому +7

    Thanks for "vaguely" showing it, will be giving this a try too 😂

  • @treezen522
    @treezen522 4 місяці тому +2

    Can't believe this method works. My Yinlin went from (Crit rate/crit dmg) 45/180 to 80/210

    • @treezen522
      @treezen522 4 місяці тому +1

      And my calcharo went from 45/200 to 60/230
      Edit : From 43/189 to 62/229

  • @azni8454
    @azni8454 4 місяці тому +11

    LET HIM COOK

  • @dhambz23
    @dhambz23 4 місяці тому

    Good thing I watched your vid before I started getting gold echoes. You didn't tell exactly how your theory works but I feel like I have a grasp on how it works. So far I only rerolled 2 lvl20 echoes out of 10 echoes for getting trash subs I mean "flat stats" and that's without a single crit roll.
    Now my only problem is the inexistence of echo exp mats😂.

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      We learned by Burning the blue and purple materials since we wont be using them and they are stuck in your inventory

    • @dhambz23
      @dhambz23 4 місяці тому

      @@BigBoiPnoy do you mean the blue and purple echo tuners? If so, how do I get expy mats from it?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      you can feed leveled up blue and purple units to your gold ones

  • @tank7106
    @tank7106 4 місяці тому +7

    wuthering waves ft tequila sunrise

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for the constant support man.

  • @novalriff6302
    @novalriff6302 3 місяці тому +1

    Hello, thanks for sharing the great tips!!
    but I have a question
    I'm using the same app as you, do it have to be the server region time or just where I am at?
    (eg: I play at SEA, do I stick to my country time or do I change it to SG?)
    Thank you!! have a nice one!!

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  3 місяці тому +1

      Just stick to your time. The region isn’t really the issue. It’s more each server has different outcomes. Which my own discord has discovered. Consider everything. Minutes, seconds, milliseconds. Hour is at a maybe at the moment.

  • @XLbuffLive
    @XLbuffLive 4 місяці тому +5

    I'll pretend that I understand something.

    • @Ssn-bc1kz
      @Ssn-bc1kz 4 місяці тому

      Open an online clock and tune your echoes when the last digit of the seconds turns to 5 (example: 12:34:45, 06:57:15, 00:00:05). After that you're basically guaranteed Crit/Atk%/Other useful offensive substats. Hope this helps!

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      Not exactly. I like how fixated everyone is on the 5 second marker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @radicalthunder5740
      @radicalthunder5740 3 місяці тому

      Then what is it then? Seems this is just a bunch of rng luck​@@BigBoiPnoy

  • @nchtblut
    @nchtblut 3 місяці тому +1

    i feel that wuthering waves is easier to tune echoes compared to enhancing relics in hsr xd
    in 1 week I was able to max my first team in wuwa and in hsr it took around 300 days to max my QQ lol

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  3 місяці тому +1

      ya im probably just gonna do one video on echo stuff and thats it. echo's seem easier to get overall

  • @wolfleader2
    @wolfleader2 4 місяці тому +1

    i'm a cs student so i'd be glad to hear how u guys reverse engineer an algorithm w/o code because i guarantee you that's impossible because if you could do that you could basically reverse engineer every kind of encryption basically lol

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Gacha games 😉

    • @wolfleader2
      @wolfleader2 4 місяці тому +1

      @@BigBoiPnoy i mean even if you guys are basically just getting statistics, it's basically impossible to get or understand how the randomization would work unless you have an insider, source code is everything plus with how advanced our technology is right now it's quite literally going to be impossible to reverse it if it's using some sort of unique "variable" in it's randomization for example cloudflare uses lava lamps for randomization which when i first heard of was kinda confused on how it worked until i started delving into some more cybersecurity related topics relating to encryption and data randomization so i don't know man, even if you have a data set worth 1 million, you'd still have to compare it to another set of 1 million to check if it evens out and then you could theoretically make a table of odds for how rolls work but besides that i think pseudo rng is impossible to crack without insider knowledge so u can get the source code and decompile.

    • @wolfleader2
      @wolfleader2 4 місяці тому +1

      @@BigBoiPnoy if this is legit tho ayy man #PinoyPride haha lakas nmn ng pinoy manggago sa RNG

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@wolfleader2 naw most gacha’s wont lavalamp. Its costs a lot the more they put into it. Hence why we were able to do it for honkai star rail and genshin impact. They both have the same system. My guess is the code is a lot simpler than most gamers think for these gacha games. I think they go with something more that’s under their control hence the whole pity system and what not on pulls. Honestly the statistical side I just analyze it and use it as a reference

    • @wolfleader2
      @wolfleader2 4 місяці тому +1

      also i've been analyzing the video for a bit on how you rolled your echos... and you always rolled when the timer was at a 5 seconds.. does their algorithm actually use that? sounds crazy tbh lmao

  • @jacobhutchinson9834
    @jacobhutchinson9834 4 місяці тому +2

    Was clicking on the 5 second mark on the server timer. Atleast, that what I believe.

  • @fennikk2569
    @fennikk2569 4 місяці тому +1

    reminds me of shiny and ev manipulation in pokemon games, seems to be a close comparison

  • @mseebh
    @mseebh 4 місяці тому +1

    THE LEGEND RETURNS

  • @coolkid4558
    @coolkid4558 4 місяці тому +1

    the goat is back 🔥

  • @runcher977
    @runcher977 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for your hard work you guys keep cooking ! How can we help for data ?

  • @matbleberop4240
    @matbleberop4240 4 місяці тому

    I didnt see any discussion about this on ur discord the genius society

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      It’s there… you have to have the role selected to see the channel which says on the video description

  • @TheTestBeuh
    @TheTestBeuh 4 місяці тому +2

    Is this a magic potion you're drinking at the begining ?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Naw. Just a good ol Tequila Sunrise

  • @apidgey1791
    @apidgey1791 4 місяці тому +1

    i see the way lol, but wouldn't it be better to do one tune at a time... for say to increase the sample size of the data

  • @macawboy6522
    @macawboy6522 4 місяці тому +1

    LETS FCKING GO!!

  • @Mike.Erman.Trout.
    @Mike.Erman.Trout. 4 місяці тому +1

    I did what you did, got a 1 cost with:
    flat atk
    atk percent
    CR
    CDMG
    Res Lib DMG
    on my first roll. The rest were also pretty good 💀

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      The Genius Society Discord never fails to deliver

  • @itzlynchmob8100
    @itzlynchmob8100 4 місяці тому +1

    Need more theory behind the echos

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      There’s this. Then there’s the player that discovered the echo pity system. Soooo only thing left is mainstats to deal with.

  • @fuyutsukirai
    @fuyutsukirai 4 місяці тому +1

    No fucking way I called it?

  • @juju.6
    @juju.6 4 місяці тому +2

    Bro yesterday took hsr and now wuthering waves

  • @welachutmelexcel
    @welachutmelexcel 4 місяці тому +1

    Anyone else want to try a tequila sunrise now?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      It’s the magic drink that lets us discover the truth of pseudo RNG

  • @Raemy87
    @Raemy87 4 місяці тому +1

    Bruh im holding to tune my echo for your video

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      Might be awhile before I do that…. Data is hard to come by.

  • @Kerwell
    @Kerwell 4 місяці тому +1

    Interesting, I’ll try this lol

  • @toffiehacker3701
    @toffiehacker3701 4 місяці тому +1

    Yes its here

  • @pedrohoward8903
    @pedrohoward8903 4 місяці тому +1

    Did you use useless echoes with useless substats to upgrade an echo, get the tuners as return and use it to reroll for another substat?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      I have done that yes.

  • @haikal5e
    @haikal5e 4 місяці тому +1

    ITS TIME

  • @xellocyanindra5473
    @xellocyanindra5473 4 місяці тому +1

    what apps did you use to show your exact time zone,,,,?

  • @radicalthunder5740
    @radicalthunder5740 3 місяці тому

    So explain what you mean by this. Do you click every few seconds?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  3 місяці тому

      I only explained this in the newer video. This video is a month old

  • @unscrambeldegg374
    @unscrambeldegg374 4 місяці тому +1

    i think i figured it out based on this footage.

  • @stefanusunicorn7483
    @stefanusunicorn7483 4 місяці тому

    So if u rolled unwanted stats for x times, the pseudo rng will likely give u the desired stats for the next roll? U just need to figure the value of x?

  • @bigzhong466
    @bigzhong466 4 місяці тому +1

    🔥

  • @MrPunkCore
    @MrPunkCore 4 місяці тому

    What do you mean " we don't wanna release too much"? Who are we hiding from?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Naw it’s more. We don’t want certain players to be like “confirmation bias” we are still testing. That’s why we are not releasing too much.

  • @Sardo12121
    @Sardo12121 4 місяці тому +2

    Hes here too lol

  • @evilserpent2253
    @evilserpent2253 4 місяці тому +1

    🔥🔥👍🏽

  • @treezen522
    @treezen522 3 місяці тому

    Yo, does this method have any update after 1 month?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  3 місяці тому

      I’m still not back home from my vacation. If there is any update please look into the discord where other players are still testing the method.

    • @treezen522
      @treezen522 3 місяці тому

      ​@@BigBoiPnoythanks for the reply, I'll check it out

  • @radicalthunder5740
    @radicalthunder5740 3 місяці тому

    Can i do this if i want energy regen instead of cr cd?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  3 місяці тому

      You can. If you find the correct click time for it.

  • @hsnwong
    @hsnwong 4 місяці тому +1

    herewego

  • @joaquimmacedo4768
    @joaquimmacedo4768 Місяць тому

    How do I fix the clock on screen?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  Місяць тому

      I did this on my pc using streaming software while having multiple screens.

    • @joaquimmacedo4768
      @joaquimmacedo4768 Місяць тому

      @@BigBoiPnoy I am Brazilian and my server in the game is America, I saw that there are some options to locate the region, I found more than one Brazil option, should I set the clock to Brazil or America? If it's America, what's the right option? There are several

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  Місяць тому

      @@joaquimmacedo4768 it auto sets to your region when you first get on the site

  • @chasecox3460
    @chasecox3460 4 місяці тому

    Hello! How do i join the discord?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      It’s in the video description

  • @uboiyy1031
    @uboiyy1031 4 місяці тому +1

    OH word?

  • @7.ikadekandikapramudityaad898
    @7.ikadekandikapramudityaad898 4 місяці тому +1

    I need this

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Many players do. We are highly limited on materials though

  • @dosusama
    @dosusama 4 місяці тому

    i have no clue what happened. can someone explain?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Nope. I have to be vague for now.

    • @ideatree2073
      @ideatree2073 4 місяці тому

      @@BigBoiPnoy :(

    • @runcher977
      @runcher977 4 місяці тому

      I think this is something to do about the timer and when the second hit 5

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Maybe

    • @radicalthunder5740
      @radicalthunder5740 3 місяці тому

      ​@@BigBoiPnoyoh ffs just tell

  • @zephyr5639
    @zephyr5639 4 місяці тому

    should i try wuthering waves also?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      Up to you. I personally think it’s fun

  • @exuuuuuuu
    @exuuuuuuu 4 місяці тому +1

    wtf did i just watch get outta here 😭

  • @michaelv7762
    @michaelv7762 4 місяці тому

    Ahaha another manipulation. I feel this man can manipulate the world 😆😆

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      naw just noticeable patterns in any gacha game

  • @keruvin_KA
    @keruvin_KA 4 місяці тому +1

    😏

  • @Sphynx93rkn
    @Sphynx93rkn 4 місяці тому

    How do you do it on mobile??

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому

      Have an exact time tracker nearby you is the best thing I can say (like literally a watch or something similar)

    • @Sphynx93rkn
      @Sphynx93rkn 4 місяці тому

      @@BigBoiPnoy does it matter if im in SEA server playing from India? As such do i have to make any adjustments to the time zone or anything?

    • @BigBoiPnoy
      @BigBoiPnoy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@Sphynx93rkn does not matter

    • @Sphynx93rkn
      @Sphynx93rkn 4 місяці тому

      @@BigBoiPnoy Thanks for the heads-up.

  • @maidinheaven69
    @maidinheaven69 4 місяці тому +1

    who let him cook