Direct Guitar Feedback Trick - controlled feedback at low volume for recording
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Feedback is when a sound going through a sound system is picked up again at the input amplifying itself in a loop. This is a sound we associate with incredibly loud guitar amplifiers and when recorded can really bring an aggressive moment to life.
I demonstrate with an example of the song Ayil by Rosetta.
Now if we don't the ability to record our guitar amps at high volume and we're only recording direct using virtual amps, we can still feedback the signal using a small speaker or a pair of headphones pointed at the guitar pickup.
And that's the whole trick, route your guitar signal after the virtual amp out to a speaker or headphones, and put the speaker close to the guitar pickup.
You can do this as part of the performance or record as accents on another track.
I didn't invent this trick and I'm not sure where I got it, but if you didn't know, now you know.
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Nice brings me back to organic metal/grunge days. I've always said the album Bleach by Nirvana was the most beautiful use of natural feedback ever
Man I was just thinking about Bleach
Gish by Smashing Pumpkins is loaded with feedback
EyeHateGod Is a great sludge band who uses a lot of feedback
Pinkerton by Weezer also has great use of feedback
Blink 182 are great at using feedback
I've found this technique only here and in 2 old guitar forums. This stuff is pure gold for us modern noise heads
Yes bro.
so fucking real
I have been recording guitar since 2016 for hobby. started playing in 2004 and was a huge heavy music obnoxious feedback and I would never think to do this it's genius. Never seen or heard of it before. This would be an interesting way to actually do Noise Music
There's still nothing like feeling the air around you ripple!
This is a great. I tried it with headphones and it worked. The only thing is that it doesn't have the same complexity of feedback you get when driving a massive speaker on loud with all the colours and varying pitches that can be sculpted. But still a very interesting solution for low volumes.
I did a similar thing by splitting the guitar signal, sending A to a normal guiar amp and B to a small amp/speaker clamped to the headstock of the guitar.. lots of sustainy feedback at low volume.
that's really cool
please explain more. i don't get it. thanks
@@pfkmsandiego It's how the old acoustical model of the fernandes sustainer works. You clamp the small speaker of a small guitar amp back to the body of the electric guitar, and you may also clamp a tweeter on the headstock of the guitar. The larger speaker on the body gives you more sustaşn like feedback while the tweeter on the headstock gives you more overtones and squeels. You can wire the tweeter parallel to the amp's speaker
@@kdakan that's insane. hahaha. and awesome
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you SO MUCH for this video.
Great tip, I just got into amp sims after growing up with live amps and that's the one thing I was kind of missing, thanks!
Interesting idea. I also recommend the Digitech FreQout pedal, which creates feedback and sustain at low volumes.
How bout combining this with that? Might make it even more realistic in some situations.
I love the Digitech, but it didn't last much, after a few seconds it decays... But it sounds amazing, with options to control the feedback
Sounds great! Just to split hairs tho, isn't this different from the typical feedback sound, i.e. the sheer volume of the amplified sound making the guitar strings vibrate sympathetically, leading to near infinite sustain and feedback that's related harmonically to the string vibrating? This is more like the speaker and the pickup, being inches away from each other, creating a squealing loop no matter what the strings are doing. I used to hack together a feedback sound by sending the guitar tone to one side of a pair of closed back headphones, pressing the headphone to the body of the guitar (not necessarily near the pickup), and turning the volume up to idiotic levels. the amplified string vibrations would get transmitted back into the body of the guitar, and back to the strings, and... so on. $0.02
I'm planning to use your method with an audio exciter clamped on the guitar. Wish me luck
Love this video thank you! No more cranking my marshalls at night haha! 🤘😜
This is the way. Thank you!!
You have a bad ground hum that needs to be tracked down and solved. That's not from the amount of distortion. It's a bad ground loop that you should troubleshoot. You can get rid of that!
Love this. Thank you. I wonder if I could mount a small speaker on a mic stand and have this stable and close the whole time, for that The Chariot always-feedbacking tone.
Vein.fm uses this trick a lot
Cool, I now have a use for that broken set of headphones I have...;-)
Rosetta rules!
Fugazi and Sonic Youth are the kings of feedback for anyone wanting inspiration :)
Well those bands are ok, but Black Sabbaths "Past Lives" every track starts with an insane squeal, basically instead of counting in the tune, lol
Y’all ever heard of the chariot?
This is interesting. Anyone know how I can get this to happen in a live setting, and sound natural like this one without using a pedal or having to be really close to the speaker? Would there be anything that could come to me?
Great idea. Many thanks for posting this.
thanks for watching!
Not sure why but I can't get this trick to work. I plugged the headphones on the front of my Focusrite and nothing happens when I move them close to the pickup. Is there a particular volume or gain that has to be cranked for this to work?
Had this idea a while back, but you've inspired me to actually do it. Thanks!
Ps. Sweet guitar.
Fender Aerodyne Telecaster. Not a metal guitar but I love it
@@TheREAPERBlog I love the Aerodyne look. So clean. Especially the Aerodyne bass.
Aslo, P-90s are the best! I have built 3 Strats (so far, starting on the 4th) with custom pickguards to fit a pair of P-90s.
Cool! This is fantastic!
Not sure what i´m doing wrong here, tried with 2 different pairs of headphones but no feedback is generated. Headpones go straight into the headphone output on the interface. Any idea?
The P-90 is inherently noisy bro. A humbucker would have helped. I'm sure you know this. Thanks for the video.
I use a small guitar amp, dismoumt the speaker on it, lengthen the wires and fasten it to the back of the guitar body. It adds sustain and can create feedback and squeels if you add more distortion and brighten the tone using mid and treble knobs on the small amp, also adding heavy compression and reverb/delay. This small amp is not loud, it is never recorded anyway so the tone on it can be crap as long as it does the job of getting the guitar into more sustain and feedback. The recorded guitar can even use a clean amp sim yet it will sustain and feedback.
Awesome trick
that feed back is amazing could you strum with long sustain with a feed back too?
Very helpful, thanks a lot!
Sorry ... but this does not help me much when it comes to playing long notes like Jimi Hendrix was doing. I am still looking for an opportunity how to produce real feedbacks that goes through the whole guitar while recording into a sequencer in a DAW. There ar devices on the market like "vibrators" and such things but still this is not very sufficient. What I still do ist to have a second amp installed very near the guitar (on a table or a chair) and then stand very close to it. But still it does not sound like a real stage situation with a big top and cabinet.
You can get true musical feedback at fairly low volumes. Use a lot of compression and an amplifier. Play quite close to the amp and experiment so you don't generate these shrill shrieking sounds. While it can be done much more quietly than Hendrix, don't expect it to be extremely quiet.
I'm just curious if a guitar attenuator might work for your application. You could really crank your amp up to get those big juicy sounds, yet control your volume to a reasonable level without your ears bleeding. It's just a thought, although I have never tried this in an attempt to result feedbacking. Guessing it might work. Otherwise, maybe the good old fashioned methods are the way to go with your guitar hugging 4x12 cranked speaker cabinets and a recommended pair of hearing protection to capture the authentic rich feedback sounds that Hendrix was getting back in the day. There's also the Boss DF-2 Feedbacker pedal and other ones on the market designed to try to mimic these sounds, but again, I think if you're going for that real authentic Hendrix type of cabinet feebacking (think the intro to Foxey Lady here), then most alternatives won't suffice besides the real deal of a 4x12 or such.
Cool idea, thanks!
Oh shit I LOVE ROSETTA! I was like - R O S E T T A?! For real?! Nice!!!
unfortunately this does not work for me. I have my guitar going through my headphones with a guitar vst and im putting my headphones up to the pickups, but it gives me no feedback. Any tips?
Brilliant!
with the headphones does it go through the pickups when muted strings
Yes it will, because this is "microphonic" feedback
awesome example : )
Hey, sort of a random question, is there a way to have 2 different input/output devices? Like if I want my output to be my headphones that aren´t connected to my audio interface and I want my audio interface to be the input device. Thanks, sorry for bad english
Can you record just a dry DI signal and use the amp sim and speaker/headphones just to generate the feedback so that you can reamp later?
Thanks for the video. What is your chair model?
reaper rocks, what did u do to get those buttons on the top?
Yeeeeeeeahhhhh!!! Thank you!!!
I’m happy that the super heavy noise gate sound is less popular in metal now
Damn! I want to stop the feedback not create it. I don't understand where it's coming from when my speakers aren't even plugged in. The headphones are on my head. I don't get it.
1. did u say something specific about the routing of the headphones to the direct guitar recording? like, they need to be on the same channel or something? that confused me. or i confused myself. hahaha. 2. sorry if this is supposed to be obvious but i assume the amp is turned on to get the effect? thanks!
just the guitar goes out to the headphones/speaker. Amp is on
@@TheREAPERBlog to be clear- (sorry)- for the headphones example the headphones are plugged into the headphone jack of the interface, correct?
@@TheREAPERBlog Great Question above!! " the headphones are plugged into the headphone jack of the interface, correct?" A little help please. Thanks!!
Very intersting ! There is also a VST by softube called Accoustic Feedback which can do the trick. Sounds different though.
this is free!
@@TheREAPERBlog yes but for people who don't have guitar (like using Kontakt etc)...
I also tried making a feedback loop inside reaper, it kinda worked but didn't sound as good and there was no way to perform with it.
I'm recording an amp, but also a clean DI signal. If I re-amp the DI stems will the feedback be lost?
Shouldn't be the case. It would definitely sound differently. The DI still has the overtones. You might need some compression. Never tried it before though.
Now I can write Screamo Revival and Hardcore
Also sludge, Doom and drone metal
Hey, Question out of topic here . You have a video where you explain how to fix the out of windows focus that happens with Reaper randomly. You explained how to fix it in the first 1 minute of the video. But now I cant find either the feature or your video.
if it's on windows it could be every time you press the alt-key it goes to the main menu.
Preferences>General> Keyboard
"Prevent ALT key from focusing main menu". Let me know if it's something different.
@@TheREAPERBlog No, the tip for that you gave it just starting the video. You said something between this lines; "before we start ...have you ever had this issue? DONK!!! " (funk alert sound fx comes up) Thats all I can remember right now. Thanks for replying
I can't find that, which must have been the "send all keyboard input to plugin" option in the fx window, but there's also this ua-cam.com/video/ztqKI8TPl-Y/v-deo.html
@@TheREAPERBlog This will just save me tons of time, thanks.
Is the speaker also connected to the headphone out jack?
Yes
this is a good studio stunt, but you aren't able to get the extended harmonics and different tonal aspects of the instrument as when it is engaged in a truly hot feedback loop. Your method only produces a few tones (two is what I heard.) I think that the marriage of sustain and harmonics really lend to the overall feedback effect. I'm not certain how much of that you're getting with the studio hack. Certainly it's better than nothing.
Jon, I need to transfer all my Reaper information to another computer due to windows 7 ending. I need to transfer VST's, samples, settings, etc.. if I purchase a one on one with you will we be able to complete this ?
for a big change like this you should (in my opinion) remove the original hard drive, do a clean install of Win 10 on a new drive, then import data from the original drive through an external drive enclosure.
@@TheREAPERBlog Ok, sounds a bit complicated. So the drive I have now with windows 7, I should update this one to windows 10, then transfer the data ( or clone) to the New computer that has windows 10. Is that correct ?
They best way is to install win 10 on an empty drive
@@TheREAPERBlog Thank you Jon, I appreciate that.
Interesting. Do you have egg boxes on your wall?
www.acousticsfirst.com/diffuser-art-diffusor.htm
Thank you!
Heading to Spotify and typing in: "Rosetta Ayil" rat nah!!!
Does this damage headphones? I only have one pair lmao
Probably not but I wouldn't do it with my best headphones just in case
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!
This is not musical at all. The feedback of live 60s/70s rock guitar was always very musical and impressive. This just sounds like you have a really bad sound person.
shutup
'Portrait of an American Family' has a tastier way of using feedback.