Loader always down! Especially if there are children or people who are unfamiliar with the dangers of heavy equipment. You never know what can happen if someone happened to be under it. Also it always seems to be at the height where you catch you Shin, like a trailer hitch on a truck! Love the channel!
A couple of years ago I bought a tractor from my neighbor, a NH TC48DA, which had a slow leak down for the bucket level. One day I decided to go do some work in the woods, so I loaded up my practically new DeWalt 5 piece toolset, which had its own black tote bag, along with some batteries, into the FEL bucket, along with my chainsaw. While headed to where I planned to work, I decided to mow the grass, which was quite tall. Not long before I got to the woods, the bucket had tilted down enough to cause the tool bag to fall out. I was looking off and did not see it. A moment later I heard an awful noise as I ran over that tool bag with the rotary cutter. The mower tore up the bag, broke a light and a circular saw. Fortunately no other tools were damaged. I have been careful ever since.
Hi Mike.... when I bought my JD990 back in 2001 I only got a one year warranty.... period. My brother just bought a New Holland a year or so ago and got a five or six year warranty and I think he believes "EVERYTHING" is covered under that. I think I better show him your video so he understands this a bit better. Thanks.
I can't find the video where you pulled the tilt rams apart on your tractor.. I wanted to comment because I have the same tractor as you, size and year. I had a similar issue with the bucket sagging and kept meaning to try and get time to get it pulled apart to see if I needed packing or had the loose piston nut like yours. Well I didn't get to it.... I have 2500 hours on my Boomer and I was helping the local ATV club with trail work. I had just gotten done moving 5 tri-axle dump loads of 4" minus gravel/dirt for a trail. All with the loader. I went to another section of trail to regrade, put the bucket down to scrape a little off a high spot and the bucket just dropped. No tilt action up or down.. Finished the rest of my work with just the York rake. Called a friend with a garage and asked him to look at it. First ram he pulled apart the piston was loose. The second the rod came out with no piston... The nut had completely backed off which is what caused the bucket to lose the tilt action of course. I don't know how it held together through all the gravel loads. Lucky it did and only failed when the bucket was only a few feet off the ground. Plus I had the majority of the work done. The bucket has leaked down basically since new, but had gotten much worse in the past year or so. I wish I had made the time to check the rams back when I saw your video.. Thankfully my buddy is a great mechanic and was able to get the piston and nut out of the ram and fix the treads that had minor damage from when it let go. I had him do the packing since it was apart considering my hours of service. Thought you might want to know your issue may be more common or at least common among our Boomers. Thanks for your videos, they are always helpful!
Mike you're absolutely right dealers and mechanics hate warranty work. I worked in a car dealership and certain mechanics got certain type warranty jobs. That mechanic was good at that job and was the quickest. The car manufacturer set the number of hours for all warranties and the mechanic got that amount only. If it was done quicker that mechanic got the full amount. It was our dealer's way of giving the mechanic a bonus for doing the job quicker.
Mike - I learned in college (construction equip class 67/68) to always lower blades (i.e. hydraulics) to prevent children playing and a child crushed when another plays w/ levers. I was also informed that hydraulics have a built-in safety valve so that in the event of a hydraulic FAILURE the cylinders will descend somewhat slowly - not instantly crashing down. Because I park my tractor inside I need available floor space so I put a 2"x2" angle iron on the boom cylinder when fully raised. Good warranty info - thank you.
Those safety valves (hose rupture valves) aren't normally used on hydraulic equipment for tractors, so yes they'll crash down if a big enough leak occurs. Where I live such things are mandatory on hydraulic equipment that can lift people (e.g. skylifts) so one of the reasons why using the tractor loader is more dangerous.
💥 Very good advice and good points on the warranty work. It’s too bad not everything you purchase is covered under the same warranty umbrella. *Keep on tractoring!* 👍
I was taught to not only drop the loader down when parking/stopping, but also anything on the 3-point hitch as well such as a box blade or a rotary cutter. It's just become habit for me. Regarding the safety aspect. NEVER work under a loader or implement being held up by the hydraulics. Should a catastrophic failure occur gravity will drop it QUICKLY!
Hey Mike, speaking as an old warranty claim writer at a car dealership. Tractor dealers need a good person writing those claims. Sometimes you need to get creative and notice the technician made some extra “adjustments “ that can be charged time to but no parts are replaced. Problem solved!
Tractor Mike, I love your videos and am learning so much from them. Thank you!! I am a new tractor owner. Just bought a Bobcat compact tractor 2035. I have some questions. Maintenance is critical & can be complicated but I am worried I may not do it all right. Why can't a local tractor repair company do the scheduled maintenance for me like I do with my car or truck? Also, no one has an answer to this including Bobcat. What is the torque for the bolts on the loader and tractor itself? All I know is the torque for the tire bolts only. But, your "20 activities to Perform on Your New Tractor" said, check all bolts on the tractor. I sure would appreciate your advice. I don't understand why they expect you to fix and maintain your own tractor just because you own one! This is all new for me. Thanks again!!
Tori...you're welcome! I'm surprised the dealer isn't trying to get your service business. A lot of customers leave the tune-up work to the dealer, especially while the tractor is under warranty, so there's proof that it was serviced when required, in case there's an issue. But, many times there can be a disconnect between the salesperson whose job it is to sell equipment and the service manager, whose job it is to sell his technician's time and parts. For a dealership to work the way it should, they need to do your service work, because they actually make a higher percentage of money on parts & the shop than they do selling new equipment. I'm shocked that no one could tell you the torque specs for the loader and I feel the same way you do, if there's an issue, how can they blame you if they don't explain the requirements?. I'll do a video on this soon, but there are specs for bolt tightening that should be in the owner's manual of your tractor that apply if there's no other specific notation of torque requirements. My loader is held on with M16 bolts that are rated at 10.9 (it'll say that on the bolt head), minimum torque on them is 196 ft. lbs. I suspect if you torque those bolts around 200 ft. lbs. you'd be good. If you have different sized bolts, e-mail me at mike@asktractormike.com and I'll send you the chart.
@@TractorMike Thank you so much! I appreciate your time and advice. I can check the fluid dipsticks and grease the fittings myself but at what intervals would you recommend the dealer service the tractor? every 50 hrs? I want to take good care of it.
Conventional wisdom is that first service should be at 50 hours. Any metal in the machine manufacturing process will be circulated in the oil and be removed at that time. After that, service is generally at 300 hour intervals or once a year.
@@TractorMike Thank you very much. ALL new tractors owners need to view and subscribe to your channel and will appreciate all your sharing of your experience and knowledge. I am looking forward to your next videos especially on service & maintenance suggestions.
I have a mt275 challenger tractor with an ml30 loader. I've had issues with my loader valve since I bought mine (used in 2009 or so) I had it rebuilt that fixed the droop but now have a small external leak on the spool valve. I bought the challenger because I thought it was a good brand from caterpillar but input realized after I bought it they don't make them anymore and parts are extremely hard to get
A general question if I may: I have a New Holland Boomer 35 with about 900 hours on it. I have noticed recently that the power loss appears substantial in both 2 wheel and 4wheel drive. I have heard a hydrostatic like mine will lose 30% of it's power after a few years. Is this accurate and could you suggest anything I might try to see if it will improve or just check? Thank you.
@@TractorMike Yes, and the oil as well. Also, it seems the pedals don't extend as far as they used to at any speed. Road speed is not as great even with the throttle at the highest recommended setting. Thanks
ALWAYS lower raised equipment when parking, been in evert owner's manual I've read. We had a man stop a grader and leave the blade raised, the grader started rolling and he was injured, his fault, but he still sued the state. To avoid a trial, the state settled with him.
My Mahindra dealer seems to think some leak down is acceptable. i've never known that to be acceptable on any piece of equipment. If my bucket trucks had had any leak down they'd never have left the yard without a wrench fixing it. My machine showed this symptom right out of the gate in the curl cylinders the first time I picked up an 800 lb slab of concrete with a lift capability of 1600 lbs. I can watch the it uncurl. The tractor is about two months old.
We sell and service 3 brands of tractors. All of them have an acceptable leak tolerance. That is clearly published in your loader manual, and you will have signed a warranty recognition form. There are a lot of dealers that don’t explain how factory warranty works or it’s parameters for fear of losing a sale. While I can agree it should be more simple than it is, it isn’t and we are all at the mercy of the manufacturers. A great dealer can find ways around some things long as the customer isn’t being a douche nozzle. I’ve gotten several customers covered for things because they didn’t come in acting like a Karen.
My IH 1066 with 2350 loader will stay wherever you leave the loader for weeks. My 2018 JD 1025R drops in a hour. Who built the best tractors? Kent from PEI
They hate warranty but will sell the customer fluffy comforting thoughts of a warranty. Should make it as easy to use the warranty when you need it,as easy as they use it as sales tactic.
I would have thought that warranty work would be covered by the manufacturer and that the dealer would neither make nor lose money, but that shows what I know.
Fudging of warranty happens more than customers know, especially with Agriculture. Example travel time or mileage. Perhaps bury a little time some where else in the mechanics work day.
So the consumer is being given a non serviceable part that doesn't perform as well to save the manufacturer money and will eventually make even more money when the cylinder needs to be replaced vs simply replacing seals. That not both wasteful when an entire cylinder assembly needs to be replaced and bad for the consumer due to higher maintenance costs over time. That's just wrong.
Loader always down! Especially if there are children or people who are unfamiliar with the dangers of heavy equipment. You never know what can happen if someone happened to be under it. Also it always seems to be at the height where you catch you Shin, like a trailer hitch on a truck!
Love the channel!
A couple of years ago I bought a tractor from my neighbor, a NH TC48DA, which had a slow leak down for the bucket level. One day I decided to go do some work in the woods, so I loaded up my practically new DeWalt 5 piece toolset, which had its own black tote bag, along with some batteries, into the FEL bucket, along with my chainsaw. While headed to where I planned to work, I decided to mow the grass, which was quite tall. Not long before I got to the woods, the bucket had tilted down enough to cause the tool bag to fall out. I was looking off and did not see it. A moment later I heard an awful noise as I ran over that tool bag with the rotary cutter. The mower tore up the bag, broke a light and a circular saw. Fortunately no other tools were damaged. I have been careful ever since.
Hi Mike.... when I bought my JD990 back in 2001 I only got a one year warranty.... period. My brother just bought a New Holland a year or so ago and got a five or six year warranty and I think he believes "EVERYTHING" is covered under that. I think I better show him your video so he understands this a bit better. Thanks.
I can't find the video where you pulled the tilt rams apart on your tractor.. I wanted to comment because I have the same tractor as you, size and year. I had a similar issue with the bucket sagging and kept meaning to try and get time to get it pulled apart to see if I needed packing or had the loose piston nut like yours. Well I didn't get to it....
I have 2500 hours on my Boomer and I was helping the local ATV club with trail work. I had just gotten done moving 5 tri-axle dump loads of 4" minus gravel/dirt for a trail. All with the loader. I went to another section of trail to regrade, put the bucket down to scrape a little off a high spot and the bucket just dropped. No tilt action up or down.. Finished the rest of my work with just the York rake. Called a friend with a garage and asked him to look at it. First ram he pulled apart the piston was loose. The second the rod came out with no piston... The nut had completely backed off which is what caused the bucket to lose the tilt action of course. I don't know how it held together through all the gravel loads. Lucky it did and only failed when the bucket was only a few feet off the ground. Plus I had the majority of the work done.
The bucket has leaked down basically since new, but had gotten much worse in the past year or so. I wish I had made the time to check the rams back when I saw your video.. Thankfully my buddy is a great mechanic and was able to get the piston and nut out of the ram and fix the treads that had minor damage from when it let go. I had him do the packing since it was apart considering my hours of service. Thought you might want to know your issue may be more common or at least common among our Boomers.
Thanks for your videos, they are always helpful!
Mike you're absolutely right dealers and mechanics hate warranty work. I worked in a car dealership and certain mechanics got certain type warranty jobs. That mechanic was good at that job and was the quickest. The car manufacturer set the number of hours for all warranties and the mechanic got that amount only. If it was done quicker that mechanic got the full amount. It was our dealer's way of giving the mechanic a bonus for doing the job quicker.
Great video as always Mike Love your Channel.
Mike - I learned in college (construction equip class 67/68) to always lower blades (i.e. hydraulics) to prevent children playing and a child crushed when another plays w/ levers. I was also informed that hydraulics have a built-in safety valve so that in the event of a hydraulic FAILURE the cylinders will descend somewhat slowly - not instantly crashing down. Because I park my tractor inside I need available floor space so I put a 2"x2" angle iron on the boom cylinder when fully raised. Good warranty info - thank you.
Those safety valves (hose rupture valves) aren't normally used on hydraulic equipment for tractors, so yes they'll crash down if a big enough leak occurs. Where I live such things are mandatory on hydraulic equipment that can lift people (e.g. skylifts) so one of the reasons why using the tractor loader is more dangerous.
💥 Very good advice and good points on the warranty work. It’s too bad not everything you purchase is covered under the same warranty umbrella.
*Keep on tractoring!* 👍
I was taught to not only drop the loader down when parking/stopping, but also anything on the 3-point hitch as well such as a box blade or a rotary cutter. It's just become habit for me. Regarding the safety aspect. NEVER work under a loader or implement being held up by the hydraulics. Should a catastrophic failure occur gravity will drop it QUICKLY!
Hey Mike, speaking as an old warranty claim writer at a car dealership. Tractor dealers need a good person writing those claims. Sometimes you need to get creative and notice the technician made some extra “adjustments “ that can be charged time to but no parts are replaced. Problem solved!
Good writing and details can increase reimbursement for sure
Good info Mike👍
I hope that guy reports back on that loader warranty because if they cover it that would be a miracle in my book.
Nice job. I always drop my loader and 3 point implements when I park. It's a good habit. -Ed
Hey Mike, thanks for another video. Was the hydraulic cylinder video taken down?
Tractor Mike, I love your videos and am learning so much from them. Thank you!! I am a new tractor owner. Just bought a Bobcat compact tractor 2035. I have some questions. Maintenance is critical & can be complicated but I am worried I may not do it all right. Why can't a local tractor repair company do the scheduled maintenance for me like I do with my car or truck?
Also, no one has an answer to this including Bobcat. What is the torque for the bolts on the loader and tractor itself? All I know is the torque for the tire bolts only. But, your "20 activities to Perform on Your New Tractor" said, check all bolts on the tractor. I sure would appreciate your advice. I don't understand why they expect you to fix and maintain your own tractor just because you own one! This is all new for me. Thanks again!!
Tori...you're welcome! I'm surprised the dealer isn't trying to get your service business. A lot of customers leave the tune-up work to the dealer, especially while the tractor is under warranty, so there's proof that it was serviced when required, in case there's an issue. But, many times there can be a disconnect between the salesperson whose job it is to sell equipment and the service manager, whose job it is to sell his technician's time and parts. For a dealership to work the way it should, they need to do your service work, because they actually make a higher percentage of money on parts & the shop than they do selling new equipment. I'm shocked that no one could tell you the torque specs for the loader and I feel the same way you do, if there's an issue, how can they blame you if they don't explain the requirements?. I'll do a video on this soon, but there are specs for bolt tightening that should be in the owner's manual of your tractor that apply if there's no other specific notation of torque requirements. My loader is held on with M16 bolts that are rated at 10.9 (it'll say that on the bolt head), minimum torque on them is 196 ft. lbs. I suspect if you torque those bolts around 200 ft. lbs. you'd be good. If you have different sized bolts, e-mail me at mike@asktractormike.com and I'll send you the chart.
@@TractorMike Thank you so much! I appreciate your time and advice. I can check the fluid dipsticks and grease the fittings myself but at what intervals would you recommend the dealer service the tractor? every 50 hrs? I want to take good care of it.
Conventional wisdom is that first service should be at 50 hours. Any metal in the machine manufacturing process will be circulated in the oil and be removed at that time. After that, service is generally at 300 hour intervals or once a year.
@@TractorMike Thank you very much. ALL new tractors owners need to view and subscribe to your channel and will appreciate all your sharing of your experience and knowledge. I am looking forward to your next videos especially on service & maintenance suggestions.
Another super video, Mike! Question: how can you find a particular manufacturer’s formula for acceptable bleed down?
Would you go with when I buy my next tractor?
As always great video Mike! Thanks!
I have a mt275 challenger tractor with an ml30 loader. I've had issues with my loader valve since I bought mine (used in 2009 or so) I had it rebuilt that fixed the droop but now have a small external leak on the spool valve. I bought the challenger because I thought it was a good brand from caterpillar but input realized after I bought it they don't make them anymore and parts are extremely hard to get
A general question if I may: I have a New Holland Boomer 35 with about 900 hours on it. I have noticed recently that the power loss appears substantial in both 2 wheel and 4wheel drive. I have heard a hydrostatic like mine will lose 30% of it's power after a few years. Is this accurate and could you suggest anything I might try to see if it will improve or just check? Thank you.
I've not heard that. Have you replaced the hydrostat oil filter recently?
@@TractorMike Yes, and the oil as well. Also, it seems the pedals don't extend as far as they used to at any speed. Road speed is not as great even with the throttle at the highest recommended setting. Thanks
ALWAYS lower raised equipment when parking, been in evert owner's manual I've read. We had a man stop a grader and leave the blade raised, the grader started rolling and he was injured, his fault, but he still sued the state. To avoid a trial, the state settled with him.
My Mahindra dealer seems to think some leak down is acceptable. i've never known that to be acceptable on any piece of equipment. If my bucket trucks had had any leak down they'd never have left the yard without a wrench fixing it. My machine showed this symptom right out of the gate in the curl cylinders the first time I picked up an 800 lb slab of concrete with a lift capability of 1600 lbs. I can watch the it uncurl. The tractor is about two months old.
We sell and service 3 brands of tractors. All of them have an acceptable leak tolerance. That is clearly published in your loader manual, and you will have signed a warranty recognition form. There are a lot of dealers that don’t explain how factory warranty works or it’s parameters for fear of losing a sale. While I can agree it should be more simple than it is, it isn’t and we are all at the mercy of the manufacturers. A great dealer can find ways around some things long as the customer isn’t being a douche nozzle. I’ve gotten several customers covered for things because they didn’t come in acting like a Karen.
great video and very good advice thanks
My IH 1066 with 2350 loader will stay wherever you leave the loader for weeks. My 2018 JD 1025R drops in a hour. Who built the best tractors? Kent from PEI
They hate warranty but will sell the customer fluffy comforting thoughts of a warranty. Should make it as easy to use the warranty when you need it,as easy as they use it as sales tactic.
I would have thought that warranty work would be covered by the manufacturer and that the dealer would neither make nor lose money, but that shows what I know.
Mine don't leak down I have ls mt225 which is a work master newholland same thing. Mine will stay up all for days without the engine running
Good video answer Mike
Dealer accepted that proposition when they went into business. Sorry.
Had problems with the same issue on a New Holland trackhoe, fought with New Holland for months, no sucess, so I traded mine off for a different brand
Fudging of warranty happens more than customers know, especially with Agriculture. Example travel time or mileage. Perhaps bury a little time some where else in the mechanics work day.
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So the consumer is being given a non serviceable part that doesn't perform as well to save the manufacturer money and will eventually make even more money when the cylinder needs to be replaced vs simply replacing seals. That not both wasteful when an entire cylinder assembly needs to be replaced and bad for the consumer due to higher maintenance costs over time. That's just wrong.
#1 Don't park your tractor nose toward the pond.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ehhhh, ....maybe. Lol !
Mike, you crack me up!
First!
man you must be at least 100 years old