Bill Johnson: The Theology of Sickness and Healing | Rediscover Bethel
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Watch as Bethel Senior Leader Bill Johnson and Bethel Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly discuss Bethel's views and theology of sickness and healing while answering questions about when someone doesn't receive healing when prayed for.
Jesus modeled for us what life could be like for anyone who had no sin and was empowered by the Holy Spirit. If Jesus did all of His miracles as God, we would all still be impressed and in awe of His miracles. However, we discover in scripture that Jesus did all of these miracles as the Son of man, meaning He was fully God and fully man. Jesus performed His miracles as a human who the Holy Spirit empowered. By doing this, Jesus demonstrated for all believers what is possible and set the standard for us to follow and then in scripture gave us this command:
"And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven has come near.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those with leprosy, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give." - Matthew 10:7-8 (NASB)
So what does it look like to live out the command Jesus gives in the book of Matthew? What happens when we don't receive the gift of healing after being prayed for? What happens when we pray for someone, and they are not healed? We invite you to watch this video to hear Bill Johnson and Dann Farrelly discuss in-depth what it means to not allow for a theology of sickness to rule our view of God.
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Rediscover Bethel is a video series that addresses common questions and misconceptions about Bethel Church in Redding, California. This series specifically covers Bethel's theological beliefs, teachings, and practices-featuring Senior Leader Bill Johnson, Senior Associate Leader Kris Vallotton, and Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly. This series includes videos on Bible translations, Jesus' Deity, Physical Manifestations of the Holy Spirit, Theology of Healing, The Gospel of Repentance, Prophecy, and much more.
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I'm glad I found this tonight! It opened my mind to an "understanding" of what is happening when healing does not come. To "enduring" faith that doesn't just leave when healing, for whatever reason, doesn't happen immediately or even soon. God is teaching me. Thank you Bill.
Thank you Jesus for Your grace, mercy and healing me ❤
Actually, when we think about it, to go Home is the Ultimate Healing
But should not be the default mindset for people with serious illnesses, like Stage 4 cancer. Listening for Holy Spirit is ESSENTIAL. A person/family who are battling a grueling fight can have moments of questioning and that statement could undermine their faith. It may be best to keep that thought to yourself rather than share it without KNOWING it's Holy Spirit.
@@lisabeckrow5958 well done. You spoke with such wisdom. Replying to the OP, we cannot put the finality of all in the place call “home”. Heaven must manifest on earth until earth becomes the “home”.
And to love, the main objective!
@@karinawinch5087 🥰👍
@@karinawinch5087 healing is a huge example of Gods love. Further, praying for healing for someone is also an example of our love for them because we want their wholeness.
"I celebrate when it happens, and if it doesn't, enduring faith comes in." Facts.
Well, that's convenient.
Thank you! That confirms what I have been sensing about my current illness. God is good. We are healed by Jesus' stripes. Every day asking and anticipating the manifestation of his healing while waiting for his perfect timing and whatever purpose he has in all of this. 🙌
Yeah the Lord is not in this church or with this man. So u should get away from this, this leads to hell fire. And this guys father is not the God of Israel YHWE this man serves satan.
and more excuses made by a Christian for a god that does nothing at all. Shame the bible says that prayers will be answered quickly, and with what the prayer is for. It doesn't make up nonsense of some other "purpose".
Look at Hebrews, sometimes God's promises don't come into fruition until the "heroes of the faith" passed.
@@governor7203 nice excuse, Gov. Alas, that isn't what Jesus says. I'm always amused by those who run to Paul (who also most likely didn't even write this) who had to make up excuses why he can't do what is promised either.
@@JesusmySalvation Keep preaching brother. So many are lost in this False Doctrine. Why is Bill Johnson wearing glasses! Is it because he doesn't have enough Faith? They miss use so many Scriptures. Like By Christ Stripes we are healed. That mean Spiritual Healing. God does heal at His Pleasure and in His Sovereignty. We are promised no sickness in God's Kingdom. Paul left Timothy sick. Satan knows the Scriptures better than anyone on Earth. Satan knows how to make something sound true but it isn't true. Every Book except one in the New Testament warns about False Teachers and Prophets. He was us to get it.
My pastor always says it is a shame when we focus our prayer on physical ailments rather than praying for the condition of people’s souls.
“So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. For this light momentary affliction is preparing us for an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.” 2 Cor. 4:16-18
Yes God can heal. Nothing is impossible with him. But we cannot lose sight of His greatest gift of salvation and redemption from our sinful selves.
“For whoever would save his life will lose it but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s will save it. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?” Mark 8:35-36
Amen 🙌
Amen sister. I agree, our attention should always be towards the Lord. But must I remind you that healing is apart of salvation, it’s not an add on. I think the most important thing to do is keep looking at things from God’s perspective. When we get into our own understanding or what different leaders believe, we aren’t fully leaning on the Lord. We want the Life of God to be poured out of us like it was with Jesus. So the world will know Jesus is real. (John 17 chapter) Much love sister and thanks for sharing. 🤍
Thanks Kathleen, I agree, however God is interested in the whole person, body, soul and spirit. 1 Thess 5:23. And our physical healing is there for us too as our soul prospers. 3 John 1:2
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came so that they would have life, and have it abundantly." John 10:10. Wasting away is getting older, not getting sicker. Shame on pastors who dissuade people from God's healing power.
Jesus spent a huge amount of time healing the sick and commanded us to do the same. It’s a work of the devil. So it’s time well spent. Relieving the pain and suffering of people is a beautiful work of the Holy Spirit because He loves us and HATES SICKNESS
Endurance until miracle comes - Yes and Amen
I had the Holy Spirit speak to me when I wanted to anoint my grandmother for healing. He said anoint her for burial. We did , we didn’t say it out loud to her, quietly between God and I. she went home soon after. I’ve also stood on Psalm 139 when not sure of praying for healing , I never give up praying for the miracle until the last moment. It’s faith that pleases Him. So prayer is they live every day he wrote in their book in Psalm 139. I have also gone through the struggle of Christians not being able to say there good- byes or family prepared because no grace allowed for speaking of the possibility. Always we need the Holy Spirit in these deep waters to help us in our weakness. He is good and Faithful ❣️
The Holy spirit also spoke to me and said never to add any additional revelation to the Word of God. Period!
God is fully sovereign and has our times in his hands as the Psalms says. We can rest in Gods sovereignty. The ultimate healing is in Heaven.
@@deana.9883 Yeah it had nothing to do with Jesus being God in human flesh, or with fulfilling prophecies? Again, we aren’t God. Jesus was. Jesus could heal anyone at anytime. We can’t.
@@deana.9883 No. I can’t stand your type of theology. I have seen the devastation it made on my family. I’ve also seen many Christians become depressed and defeated over your theology, when the healing didn’t come. That’s what I can’t stand it and why I speak out against it.
God is fully sovereign. You can’t pick and choose when God is sovereign. In your theology, you make God sovereign only when it fits your narrative. The same God that destroyed the earth with a flood, and caused the 10 plagues in Egypt, and caused famine in the Old Testament, is the same God we serve. He isn’t sitting on the sidelines. Yet in your theology, you act like God is on the sidelines waiting for us to say the magic prayers in order to get things done.
@@deana.9883 The fact that you call sovereignty demonic is very telling of your false theology.
Wow spiritual wisdom right here! I want a church like Bethel and it's leadership.
I finally get why even after being misunderstood, misrepresented or maligned so many times, Bill still carries this godly ease and contentment. It’s because he has the much better portion of an intimate relationship with the Lord. When you can hear the Lord’s voice so clearly and get to participate in his miraculous work, you’re not likely to exchange that for anything, not even your own reputation. That’s the kind of fruit I want.
You are truly an examiner of truth as the Bereans were. I prayed for you. We "test everything" not only test objections that we dislike. I beg you to test this now and not stop short before the end: Bill Johnson's words on August 15th 2010. “The apostle Paul gives a warning in Galatians. And he says ‘If I or even an angel comes to you and preaches to you a different gospel, you’ve got to REJECT it.’ What gospel is it? It’s the Gospel of Jesus. It’s the Gospel of the kingdom. Let me illustrate. Paul refers to his thorn in the flesh which has been INTERPRETED BY MANY as disease allowed or brought on by God. That’s a different gospel.” You might have to read this a few times.
Actually, Paul said that those with a different gospel are "anathema" (rejected by God) not only rejected by us. This "apostolic" preaching renders believers who see Paul having poor health as rejected by God because theology that allows for sickness is supposedly a made-up theology. "I refuse to create a theology that allows for sickness." -Bill Johnson, also on August 15th. But what does NAR's own Passion Translation say about Paul? In Galatian 4:13 Paul himself said: "You are well aware that the reason I stayed among you to preach the good news was because of the POOR STATE OF MY HEALTH." This verse at face value is the only position held by the Brothers that Bill Johnson lumped into Paul's anathema curse. Jesus said "when the day of judgment comes, everyone will be held accountable for every careless word he has spoken. Your very words will be used as evidence, and your words will declare you either innocent or guilty.” Matthew 12:36-37. Again from the Passion Translation. "We who teach are held to a higher standard of judgment." James 3:1 Pray that Bill Johnson confesses and repents of speaking evil of brothers before it's too late. Ease and contentment can come from being godly or can come from being puffed up by yesmen and adoring followers. God be with you on your journey to know the truth.
@@jeffreyontheway Thanks for praying! I just want to make sure I’ve understood that first quote correctly. Is he saying that anyone who interprets Paul’s thorn in the flesh as a physical sickness that God has allowed is preaching a different gospel?
Also, I would love to see the complete video for those two quotes that you referenced, if you have the link. Thanks!
@@hy.c5576 I just want to use Bill's own words, not my interpretation. The holy Spirit will give the wisdom to know that Bill said what he meant and meant what he said. I don't have desires for anyone to be mistreated. We can at least agree that if a pastor disqualifies himself, we must lovingly let go. Even apostle Paul describe the possibility of himself becoming disqualified so it's not impossible. There is a video of Bill saying what I already quoted. I'll try to link you. It is clear that he says if anyone says Paul had a sickness allowed or brought on by God they have a different Gospel which to Bill means "you have to reject" and the Bible says people with different gospels are anathema cursed.
@@jeffreyontheway can I get a link to that video as well?
Awesome as always, blessed word and so well put across, the simplicity in the message and the truth it highlights is really so strengthning. God bless you and prosper you to do more and more for the Lord and reach many ppl
Thank you a fab talk it very helped me in my time of sickness bless you both
Bill, we love you. I don’t agree with everything you teach but I am convinced that Jesus isn’t looking for 100% accuracy regarding these topics (1 Corinthians 8:2) . He’s looking at the posture of our hearts. And I can see your heart of humility on full display here. Thank you for your service.
This is beautiful. Thank you so much. Our journey with the Lord is just that a journey with Him. Other's revelations give us an opportunity to press into clarity with the Lord. Thank you being honoring and we pray that you continually are ministered to. Blessings.
I am convinced Jesus is looking for 100% accuracy in any topic that regards suffering which is so so clear in His word.
Romans 16:18
King James Version
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
@Allefe Soares it is a good thing that Christ is being preached. vs :18
@Allefe Soares Good thing he clearly teaches the Gospel then.
11 years on dailysis with kidney failure and I know that I know healing is coming
Healing will come but remember if not in this life then surely the next, my brother! I also am waiting for my healing ❤️🩹
Check out Andrew Wommack’s free teaching on healing - all available on his website - it’s all free and explains in detail how to receive healing now
@@SandHGunning too bad the Apostle Paul didn’t know Andrew Wommack.
And if your healing does not come? Read the Word and be at peace. Praying for you and praying you come out of Bethels false theology
@@kelseys89 thanks but I don't need or want faithless prayers
Love this!
I received Healing for Body of Christ fellowship , when I see two Brothers enjoying Christ Jesus, I know it`s for me two.
Thank you for sharing
Excellent interview. Thank you.
You can't pray "if it's your will"? Seems like Jesus prayed "not my will, but yours" quite frequently.
I think there are times that we know God's will, because we know His character. In this case we don't need to ask Him if it is His will or not. If you believe His will is to heal everyone who comes to Him, then asking isn't needed.
The reference to "not my will, but thine be done" is often taken out of context. Jesus was asking to not be left in His suffering. Jesus knew God did not WANT Him to suffer, but He also knew there was a greater will accomplished through it. It might help to read an Aramaic translation of Luke 22 to greater understand where the Lord was coming from in His plea to the Father. Jesus spoke Aramaic.
He wasn’t praying for healing then. He was making a sacred dedication to submit to being the Lamb of God. He NEVER - not one single time- said to someone No, it’s not God’s will for you to be healed. He never said to those who were healed of which Holy Spirit gave us detailed accounts, It was God’s will for you, today was your lucky day. He never emphasized God’s will in these accounts ( there are approximately 20 detailed accounts of healings). He always said, Your faith has sozo you, or be it done to you as you believe. He emphasized the people’s faith in these individual accounts. There were healing meetings where everyone who touched Him got healed, as we experience at meetings sometimes, but individual detailed accounts He always emphasizes their faith.
We DO NOT pray "...if it be thy will..." when God's Word states it or Jesus' actions demonstrate it. When Jesus walked the earth, He "healed them all" (except in Nazareth "...He could do no mighty works because of their unbelief.") Jesus ONLY did what He saw the Father do. He demonstrated God's will to heal ALL who came to Him for healing. We pray ...if it be Thy will..." when we DO NOT have a clear answer in the Word. (i.e. take this job, marry this person, go on this trip, etc...).
@@bertsgirl941 So, if it's ALWAYS God's will to ALWAYS do all the things that Jesus did, if someone prays for healing and they aren't healed, was it God's will that they weren't healed, or did that person just not pray hard enough? Because if the burden is on the person, then WE are in control of everything and not God. Naturally, I'm setting you up here, because GOD is sovereign, not us. HE is Lord, not us. HIS will be done, not ours.
Indeed. In fact, the confidence we have is that if we pray anything according to His will, he hears us!
"And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us." 1 John 5:14
God bless you Pastor Bill. Your Godly wisdom shows through.
Nope
Be motivated by Love in all that you say and do. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 God is Love❣
God is also wrath for those false teachers, like Bill Johnson. Read your Bible. He’s lying. Jesus did not heal everyone He came into contact with. He healed only when it was Gods will to demonstrate who He was. Bill Johnson is a heretic.
The way you guys handled JET was so incredibly gracious and beautifully honoring. And the story of the son saying “1 day closer” just broke me! 😭 great video! I wonder if there are more videos addressing different theologies around sickness/disease etc… I’ve heard it all from “you got that because you have unforgiveness, to it’s demonic oppression, to you have unhealed emotions that lead to illness, to you took authority in intercession you didn’t have the right to take etc….. what would y’all say to that?
So there is enduring faith which we keep till the miracle comes.
Thank you for this preach Bill! It’s precious
Why does bill wear glasses if he can just speak healing to his eyes and it will happen , trust me I believe in God healing people but he does it according to his will.....
@Dean A. So bill Johnson doesn't have enough faith to have his eyes healed ?
@Dean A. Relax keyboard warrior, healing is about God's timing and will , He doesn't heal everybody(unfortunately) if that's what your implying.....
What about those solid Christians who walk with God, they seek healing and still walk with God even though it doesn’t come? What about those people?
Those Godly men and women who love God and walk with Him but die without healing?
Blessed are those who have not seen, yet still believe!
If I tell you about my brother, you've never met him so you have to have faith that he exists even though you may never meet him... that's still faith.
There's a lot about healing we don't understand. Being Godly doesn't exclude us from pain and suffering - we partner with God in His battle, we take up our cross. But it is how we deal with it, how we walk through it with God, that is such a powerful witness. My friend is dying of cancer and yet she's never been so much in love with God. She's sharing her faith with all the nurses and those in hospital. Yes she would love to be healed but she trusts in God's love and purpose. A true example of humility. Hope that helps.
@@anne-mariemarsh6236 exactly!!
This is why Bill Johnson is a false teacher and fake.
He teaches a “gospel” that doesn’t allow for someone not to be healed.
He lies to people saying that God wants to heal everyone.
He is destroying the faith of many who may be new or immature Christians and are suffering with a sickness.
It is ok to believe that God can and will heal. I believe that and have seen that.
But it is evil and unbiblical to say that God heals everyone.
@@colterkelley2760 huh?
As I said, we don't understand why that happens. I don't disagree with Bill, he is one of my preaching heros. It's just about trusting God even if your healing doesn't happen until you get to heaven.
Bill, throughout this video, you make it abundantly clear that your model of life is the life of Jesus. You also said that you can't pray "if it's your will" because that is a prayer of unbelief (1:34). How can you justify that statement when the Lord Jesus himself prayed such a prayer? "41 And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”" (Luke 22:41-42 ESV).
Bill I love the Grace you give to people about there circumstance in their need of healing. It’s a good way of thinking Bill keep up the good work of teaching on faith
I love Bill Johnson and Bethel. A question I have about it being God's will to always heal people. When Jesus went to the Pool of Bethesda in John 5 he healed one man, even though a great number of disabled people were at the pool (John 5v3). In than instance, with Jesus being perfect theology, for that moment it was clearly a situation that it was God's will for that one man to be healed and for the rest not to be healed. I've heard Bill say that the church today would focus on those who weren't healed because of our lack of faith. I'm not doing that. I'm focusing on those who weren't healed because it's my understanding that in that moment it wasn't God's will for them to be healed. If it was, Jesus would have healed everyone at the pool. This is why I still have the question, is it always God's will to heal? As a Pastor, I would love to hear Pastor Bill's or others response to this.
That's a good question. I can tell you're asking with sincerity and from a pure heart. Good for you, thank you for that.
Here's the thing, whenever someone, whether one person or a crowd came to Jesus for healing, they were all healed. When one person asked him if it was his will to heal him he was answered, "I am willing. Be cleansed". When the disciples asked Jesus why they could not drive the demon out of the boy so that he'd be healed, Jesus answered them saying, "It's because of your unbelief." The same goes for all who came to get healing in the book of Acts, all of those people were healed. Not one was ever turned away. And James gives the instruction in chapter 5 if anyone among us is sick, have them be prayed for and they'll be healed.
Is it always God's will, morally speaking, to heal? Absolutely. Did the Father have a specific plan that he willed that day for Jesus to heal that one guy for a specific reason? I believe so. But, do you think if any of those other people sitting around the pool asked Jesus to be healed, would he have said no? Absolutely not, I believe.
One of the biggest hinderances that often happens to most of us when we read the Bible is that we are still reading as though this were a law book. As if, like Leviticus for example, it were a library of instructions from God that tell us all the ins and outs of what he's like and gives us everything we need to know to do in response in order to guarantee success for ourselves.
The problem is, that is the dilemma of man living under a law system in this life. A law of right and wrong, of good and evil. And, as Paul explains in 2 Corinthians 3, when the law is read, it is covered by a veil. But, the veil, the law itself, which obscures God is taken away when the understanding of the gospel comes into play. It takes the veil away so we can live apart from law and live by life, which is spirit; the tree of life.
This is all about relationship. This all about family. Family, relationship, intimacy, trust, etc. , these are all dynamic, holistic things. They aren't bounded by squares and rectangles, though they are not without order and flow.
I've healed people in public before, but not others. Well if I did one, why didn't I another? Well, it's because I was getting coffee. It's because I was on my way to spend time with my niece and nephew. Does that mean it isn't in my heart to see all the people at the children's hospital and the retirement home be healed of what sin and death has hurt them with? Of course not.
Of course it's a little bit of a different dynamic with us. We're growing up in faith, confidence, etc. But, the gist is the same as it was with Jesus.
I would encourage you to read 2 Corinthians 12:7-10.
The simple answer is no, it is not God's perfect will to always heal on this side of eternity. If you repented and have accepted Jesus as your savior and Lord over your life, you will experience ultimate healing in eternity. That passage talks about Paul having a "thorn in the flesh". Paul wanted healing from an issue he experienced. Instead, the Lord responds to him no and that His grace is sufficient for him (Paul). Read what Paul says about that after. Sometimes we won't get the healing on this side of eternity because God has a bigger plan in store. One that will bring Him more glory and honor.
I would encourage you to stay away from Bill Johnson and Bethel. Their theology about Jesus and the Bible is dangerous. It sounds very convincing, but ultimately far from truth.
@@thatguy4142 I've read that passage many times before. I think it's unfortunate and detrimental when the whole of scripture is pointing to something but we come across one or maybe even a few places that sound like it could be saying something different, and we thus point scripture in a different direction.
There's a number of things to be said to your view of Paul's thorn.
First off there truly is no evidence for sure, either in chapter 12 or chapter 11, that Paul was referring to a physical illness asking God to heal him of. We assume that into the text, but that assumption is by no means inductive to the text. And, the word "infirmity" doesn't cut it to draw that conclusion. Neither does the word "weakness". All of the weaknesses Paul gave listed in chapter 11 leading into 12, and also in chapter 12 itself, had all to do with persecution, traveling to preach, etc.
Second, there are places in the Old Testament, like Numbers and Joshua, where you'll find the thorn language being used. The inhabitants of the land that were to be driven out, or the surrounding nations to Israel would become to them "thorns in their sides" or "thorns in their eyes" if the people did not do as God commanded them in those passages. So if we know our Old Testament well, and we learn that it's best to induct what we read and helpful to use "the rule of first mention" to rightly interpret scripture, we would then interpret Paul's "thorn in my flesh", as referring to a person, maybe referring to a tormenting spirit, but safest would be to interpret as a person. Especially considering that Paul calls this thorn a "MESSENGER of Satan". I think that would really be stretching it to be calling sickness a "messenger" just because Paul used the word "flesh." Even if you believe it is sickness, you still can't deny that the phrase "thorn in my flesh" is figurative language because you obviously don't believe Paul was referring to a literal thorn that was in his body even if you believe it was sickness of some kind.
Thirdly, even if it was sickness, how do you know exactly that what God meant by saying, "My grace is sufficient for you", meant that the answer was no? How do you conclude that based off of something like that?
How I read that is God reminding Paul and calling him back to grace through faith. We have been given authority by God to drive out sickness and demons and tread on snakes and scorpions. That word to me is just an encouragement to Paul, "My grace is enough to get you through this". If it's a person bothering him, well then the grace of God is enough for us to love the person in the midst of whatever they're doing to us and not be swayed. If it's a spirit, well then the grace of God is enough for us stand firm against the enemy's attacks in the truth of our faith that makes and keeps us free. If you know and understand that grace is not mercy for our sins, but it's the thing that transforms our lives, and empowers us to live in righteousness, holiness, and godliness, then this verse will by no means stumble you out of knowing God's will to heal.
Satan comes all the time to test our faith. He comes on account of the word preached. It's really sad that we use one instance of something in the Bible to discredit something very good and Biblical when all the while the whole council of scripture, and the overarching story/narrative of the gospel is right in front of our face. But, we exalt so much our personal experience, or lack thereof, so much to the point where we can't see Jesus standing right in front of us saying, "I am the resurrection!".
Ah, the snakes and scorpions command -- that was given to the 72 sent out directly by Christ. I am not a Cessationist -- God has spoken to individuals outside the Word; however, gifts and the authority to perform them were temporary, and grew the early Church for a limited time. What is seen today in places like Bethel is Confusion.
The Church's foundation is the Gospel - Christ crucified for sins - people are easily distracted from that Gospel with the Confusion of "healing" and supposed signs, wonders. God does the miraculous -- when He wants. Not bc I prayed this or that way, or commanded, or followed a verse out of context.
No priest ever exorcised a demon with "I rebuke you!!" bc no human being HAS that authority, nor IS the authority. The correct phrase is "The LORD rebuke you!" (archangel Michael).
Jesus commanded and healed bc He is the Incarnate God. I am not the Incarnate God; and I cannot command God to do my will. I can pray in humility, asking His Will to be done --- and accept whatever outcome that means. God seeks to grow His kingdom and that does not and frankly cannot aaalllllways include physical healing. Romans 5:3-5.
@@sallyspianochannel5034 what happened to the same God who’s never changing?
The Lord never told anyone that they would be free of suffering.
Exactly!!
"That willingness to look dumb" was a light in the dark for me, cause we're all in the dark sometimes when it comes to knowing God's intentions in the situations before us. It is okay to believe and to hope and pray and still not have a clue.
Good morning, I've been listening to Bill since Covid started. He's not the only one I listen to, I'm a christian all my life and one thing I learned that Jesus love is the most important thing, and His love manifests in so many ways. Bill sticks to the word as far as I can see, the point is Bill believes the word and is not putting any excuses, because is not his job nor any christian's job. Our life is in His hand and in our free choice to believe, I have arthrosis and a menisque injury and I pray often to get a miracle healing, in fact everyday and I belueve I'm heal by faith, I don't question the Lord as He heal me and my kids from so many diseases through the years, but this probñem I have is not going away easily, but I still believe God wants to heal everyone, Jesus wants to heal me here in this earth, I don't pint point Bill because he wears glasses, so what? He still carries the Lords anointing, a man of faith, he share the truth doesn't have to be perfect really. I love Jesus and anyone who follows Him have my deepest respect.
To be honest I don't care about doctrines, Jesus came for love and saved us all a bunch of idiots as we are, unworthed really ha!
I use my time looking at Jesus and I am proud of christians that put their face and reputation for Him.
I've never met Bill and I'm sure he's not perfect and he wears glassed ha! But love his conviction, and I reread his books like the ones from another pastors. Lord help us to have our priority straight. I know other christians that are so worry about their reputation that they always justify when their prayers are not answered, they are worry about Jesus reputation ha! I don't I just keep on believing because God answer prayer.
Please re evaluate you following of him amd bethel. I suggest you look up the video series called "Bethel? Or Beth hell?
From good fight ministries.
Bill believes that Jesus was not God while he was on earth. He also twists a lot of scripture. Please be aware
Asking God for breakthrough...one day at a time
1:33 - I'm not sure I understand the statement "A prayer for the Lord's will is a prayer of unbelief". Especially since Jesus modeled this prayer before going to the cross. (Matthew 26:39) If all people are destined to die then it can't possibly be His will to heal every time. Can anyone elaborate?
To add to the concern, how can it always be God's will to heal when (a) Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament and (b) God Himself gave a king leprosy, as recorded in 2 Kings 15:5. My concern is that according to Bill Johnson, "God cannot make people sick" because "He can't give what He doesn't have", which can't be true based on the Bible.
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There’s also the parable of “the Potter and the Clay”. 🤷🏻♂️
Also, Psalm 135:6 says that the Lord does as He pleases in Heaven and on Earth.. if it’s God’s will to heal everyone everyone would be healed, regardless of man. God isn’t hindered by His creation.
@@T-Wyler so your god lies. Good to know.
This goes directly against how Jesus taught us to pray. This whole bethel movement, not church, is heretical.
I can completely agree that we should pray for healing every time. I believe it is being obedient even. I even appreciate Bill saying he doesnt want to create a theology based on what didnt happen. We are even told to petition, which means it can be a repetitive prayer even, which we do have an account of with Paul which even ended up not being healed with what ever the thorn in his flesh was.
I understand where the philosophy comes from the it is Gods will to heal everytime, but when you extrapolate that thought process, you start to sees the holes in it. It very easily falls into the health and wealth gospel very easily.
And we dont have scripture thats says it is always Gods will to heal. It is interpretation of Jesus and the assumptions that we are the same, which is a different conversation that this obviously is related to. However, all of the scripture that mentions Gods will has to do with sanctification, non perishing, our personal discipline.
Jesus could only heal a few people in his hometown because of unbelief. It seems that wanted to do more for those people, like healing them, but he couldn’t because of it lack of belief. If healing doesn’t happen it, it doesn’t mean God didn’t want to. God doesn’t hand out sickness the devil does. And Jesus clearly destroyed the works of the enemy.
@@debragibson798 what about 1 Samuel 5v6? And lots of other examples
@@mariabean1786 I believe we have a better covenant with God now that Jesus came into the picture. And at that time I believe it was a different because people were under the law.
@Dean Agnor I agree
@@debragibson798 Answer me this: Did God cause all 10 plagues on the Egyptians? Or was it the Devil that caused them? But you say that God doesn’t cause sickness?
Love this. We should all grow in listening for Gods Spirit. Otherwise… we’re somewhat aimless
Reading gods word will tell you what’s his will, better than trying to listen to his spirit!
By the Holy Spirit, you are an examiner of truth as the Bereans were. We test everything, not only test objections that we dislike. I beg you to test this: Bill Johnson's words on August 15th 2010. “The apostle Paul gives a warning in Galatians. And he says ‘If I or even an angel comes to you and preaches to you a different gospel, you’ve got to REJECT it.’ What gospel is it? It’s the Gospel of Jesus. It’s the Gospel of the kingdom. Let me illustrate. Paul refers to his thorn in the flesh which has been INTERPRETED BY MANY as disease allowed or brought on by God. That’s a different gospel.”
Actually, Paul said that those with a different gospel are "anathema" (rejected by God). Bill's authoritative preaching renders believers who see Paul having poor health as rejected by God because theology that allows for sickness is supposedly a made-up theology. "I refuse to create a theology that allows for sickness." -Bill Johnson, also on August 15th. But what does NAR's own Passion Translation of the Bible say about Paul? In Galatian 4:13 Paul himself said: "You are well aware that the reason I stayed among you to preach the good news was because of the poor state of my health." This verse at face value is the only position held by the Brothers that Bill Johnson has lumped into Paul's anathema curse. Jesus said "when the day of judgment comes, everyone will be held accountable for every careless word he has spoken. Your very words will be used as evidence, and your words will declare you either innocent or guilty.” Matthew 12:36-37. Again from the Passion Translation. "We who teach are held to a higher standard of judgment." James 3:1 Pray that Bill Johnson confesses and repents of speaking evil of brothers before it's too late.
Please pray for healing for my stomach 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hallelujah-Nothing in the Bible says His children have to die sick! We all have to die but sickness is under the curse. I love that he says he believes everyone is under HiS healing! Jesus went about & healing ALL!
Thank you for this teaching! I've had a lot of questions regarding seeing miracles for other people while continuing to believe for my own breakthrough and healing.
He is no teacher or a follower of the Lord Jesus christ. Shame on you!
1- the Gospel was completed on the cross.
2- it is not God’s will to heal everyone. There were several people at the pool of Bethesda all seeking to be healed, and Christ only healed one.
3- the good news is not supernatural gifts, prosperity or health. The good news is that Gods redemptive promise for many has been fulfilled through Christ. That those who place their faith in Christ will not have to bare eternal punishment, but instead enjoy fellowship with Him and worship Him for eternity.
Wish Bill could have spoken more and video was longer. Loved this.
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We loved it too! This video is from a longer form video that was posted a few days ago. You can watch it here: ua-cam.com/video/XZ2xjnXYfm8/v-deo.html
And it's a series. More videos like this will be posted over the next few weeks.
Bill is a heretic false prophet! That serves satan with his heart and soul. Painting Jesus on his heretical teachings! This man will hear very harsh words from Jesus when he sees Him.
Lord have mercy on me🙏 healing for my body I had a hemorraghic stroke healing for my brain cells, tissues, nervous system(chronic spasticity), bones, muscles & even my eyes got affected. In Jesus' name Amen🙏🕊🔥
Agreeing with you. May you enjoy divine health.
Amen.
Check out Andrew Wommack’s free teachings on his website on how to receive healing yourself. Also loads of healing journey stories there. Amazing healings. God wants you well too! Be encouraged!!
@@SandHGunning Yes, I listen to him often, Thanks.
Thank you for sharing.. there is So Much to glean here... I will be listening again and again...Love to you
I would advise u to stop listening right away! These people are heretics and serve satan deceiving and being deceived. Get away for this!
Thank you for this open and Biblical instruction!
It’s not biblical. You are being fooled. Read your Bible instead of listening to this false teacher.
I love the faith and obedience to the Holy Spirit. It is so true that God calls us to look like a fool at times, and as Todd White said once, “dignity is not a fruit of the Spirit”!
That being said, I would counter that it is not God’s will to always heal, but he can heal at anytime, in anyway, just as he pleases. (John 5, pool of Bethseda being a prime example).
Paul left his companion Trophimus at Miletus because he was ill. (2 Timothy 4:20). Paul instructed Timothy to “take a little wine” because of his “frequent ailments”. (1 Timothy 5:23). Pauls companion Epaphroditus was severely ill and almost died, but “God had mercy” on him. (Philippians 2:25-27).
In Corinth, the Lord was bringing judgement (sickness and death) on the believers that were eating and drinking the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner. (1 Corinthians 11:30-32).
And in Acts 5, Ananias and Sapphira lie to the Holy Spirit, and are killed by the Lord.
Balance in all things. Personally, I don’t approach someone that it’s God’s will to heal at all times, but rather that God CAN heal someone at anytime for any reason.
As a Son and Child of God. We must imitate Christ, and our theology should run according to the nature and actions of Christ and Christ only not the Apostles. Does God wills all to repent and save "YES" Does all got saved "No", it's just the imperfections of man and we must not qualify our theology based on our imperfections
@matlana ch the Word of God must be our authority though. The danger of this doctrine is for the majority, and multitudes that aren't healed.
I’d recommend examining Luke 4:24-28. It’s an interesting read that illustrates God’s sovereignty. Did God know that there were many widows in need during Elijah’s time? Yes. So why did God send Elijah to only one of them?
Jesus uses a sovereign lesson of the Old Testament to illustrate a New Testament truth. Healing is an act of sovereign mercy to illustrate his Glory (John 9:3, Phillipians 2:27), and God does as he chooses.
“Who has measured the Spirit of the LORD, or what man shows him his counsel?” Isaiah 40:13
@@contactmatts Naaman and The Zarephath widow showed faith.... that's why God act on their needs. It's the Faith in God not his Sovereignty. GOD SHOWS NO FAVORITISM.
@Dean A. so in Luke 4:23-28, was it God's will to send Elijah and Elisha to other widows, but the other widows "didn't have enough faith"?
Is God always willing to heal, but is restrained by man? Who is actually in charge here?
@Dean A. Faith is a good focus, I totally agree. But understanding that God is sovereign over all things, including healings, and that it may not be God's will to heal someone is paramount. Otherwise you will inherently have to ask the "why" question when someone isn't healed (which is frequent) - and sadly, this is where the victim blaming ensues (i.e. you have sin in your life, you didn't have enough faith, etc). Faith is important, but there are instances where faith wasn't a requirement on the part of the individual (i.e. the cripple at the pool of Bethesda), and where it seemingly made no difference (i.e. the companion that Paul left behind who was ill)
BILL JOHNSON, WHERE IS YOUR FAITH MATE ? This Extract of Bini Johnson claiming healing over cancer... Yet now has cancer herself...
'' During that service, Beni Johnson revealed she had a heavenly encounter with Jesus in the spirit and gained access to healing power over cancer.
"All through worship whenever I start to sing this song and I close my eyes I just actually step into Heaven. And I was looking around Heaven but I noticed that my brother-in-law Jim, and my father-in-law Bill's dad are standing on the edge of Heaven and they are looking down," she said.
"And both of them died from cancer. And I said, Holy Spirit, Jesus, why are they standing out to me? Why are they standing and looking down and then Jenn said 'we declare healing over cancer,'" Beni Johnson said as the audience applauded.
She then encouraged the crowd to grab the healing power for cancer out of Heaven.
"I know we all have people who have that. That wretched disease from Hell and I really feel like the Holy Spirit is on that and we are to declare more, we have to go after this a little bit. So let's just speak to the people that we know. If you're in this room and you have cancer we declare to you no more. We're grabbing out of Heaven the healing power," she said.
As people were encouraged to pray for those with cancer, Johnson stated, "Don't pray; declare. This is a time, this is an open Heaven right here and we're calling down the healing power of Jesus over cancer." Yeah, I'll believe you, SURE !
People talk way too little about this.
The just shall live by Faith.
Faith does not = Wellness. Paul had a thorn that God would not take away.
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This was very powerful and good!!!
No one Jesus healed ever had to wait for a breakthrough or the right timing. No one ever had to say, "I'm healed but just waiting for the manifestation."
ALL of Jesus' healings happened physically right there and then, were visible, and were complete, on the spot.
And He healed EVERYONE that way regardless of their faith level or any other issues in their life.
That's how Jesus heals. He is perfect theology, and His healings are perfect.
Mk8:24 Jesus prayed & partial miracle happened...prayed again & miracle completed. (He was having an off day) Lk17:14 miracle happened not right in front of Jesus for the lepers but as they went. "how Jesus heals" > to quote you...it was crazy how many ways Jesus healed. It sounds like your saying the only path of healing has to be Jesus path of perfection or it's not valid. (if that's not right...feel free to state what you are trying to state or imply) Jesus had all authority after the resurrection & promptly sat down & handed the keys over to the church to do His kingdom business. He will 'build His church', using his in-progress, under-construction, imperfect church. We preach...even though we will never preach as perfectly as Jesus. We witness...even though we will never do it as perfectly as Jesus. We pray for the sick...even though we will never do it as perfectly as Jesus. It doesn't mean we stop any aspect of kingdom works...just because we don't do it as perfectly as Jesus. Jesus is still healing today...using imperfect people like Bill Johnson.
Just thought I'd add to Jesus plan of using imperfect people in his ministry of healing...(Matt10:1 called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every affliction)... Jesus called his disciples to heal diseases...none of them did it as good as Jesus...but Jesus still told them to do it...his disciples still are.
@@jerrylow5045 God had an off day. Oy.
Thousands of demons obeyed Jesus, dead people obeyed Jesus, plants and fish obeyed Jesus, the wind and sea obeyed Jesus.
But one man's blindness gave Him trouble.
Oy.
Zero regard to the context of that healing ("Having eyes, do you not see?", showing Jesus did it that way deliberately), and zero regard to the fact that the man still was fully healed in a matter of seconds, walking away with perfect sight. He didn't have to wait for a breakthrough, and neither did the lepers of Luke 17:14, which doesn't say they had already left.
Typical of the biblical illiteracy of this movement, typical of its low view of Jesus, and typical of its twisting Scriptures to explain the failures of its errors.
I thought Jesus was perfect theology, not the disciples. If you have to pivot to the disciples, then what's the point of "Jesus healed all who came to him"? Who cares, if it's up to us?
“By his stripes we are healed” in Isaiah 53 is NOT about physical healing. The context informs us that it is about spiritual healing / salvation.
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Sorry Mike but Isaiah 53 is clearly about physical healing as Matthew 8:16-17 quotes directly from this passage in Isaiah when Jesus was physically healing people.
@@SandHGunning by his stripes we are healed the word healed doesn’t only mean physical nor spiritual as far as I understand by searching the meaning from Greek translation then we have to feed the context and at clearly means spiritual healing... btw spiritual healing and the easy way now to the father through Christ the son is far more Important than physical healing infact often God uses sickness and and hard times to work on his children and it reveals in hard times if they get closer to god or start to distance from him! All this health and wealth nonsense is not the gospel of the Bible it’s a man made greedy unholy doctrine wich is damnable...
I don’t play done god goodness or his ability to heal but I argue that he promised us physical healing here on earth
@@SandHGunning that’s correct…. As the New Testament usage of OT passages ( eg Isiah 53) should direct us as to how we should interpret those OT passages
@@SandHGunning But Matt.8:17 references Is. 53:4….. so in the earthly ministry of Jesus this OT verse is fulfilled. And 1 Peter 2:24 references Is.53:5. So by his stripes we are healed is fulfilled in the cross of Jesus for our sin. Which is reinforced by the fourfold parallelism in Is. 53:5 which is about our son being dealt with.
Such a incredible talk. Bill your encouragement helping so many of us. Thank you!!♥️
This happened to me once. The lady was my roommate in the nursing home we were in. My roommate, Anina, had lung cancer. I told her that Jesus could heal her of it just like He healed people when He was on the earth. She thought about it, and decided that she’d rather go to be with Christ. Her reasoning being that, if healed of cancer and arthritis, she would still be living in that nursing home. She was tired. She wanted to be with Christ. I told her I understood. She went one morning a few weeks later. God told me to leave the room. A CNA brought me the news that my friend had gone to be with her best Friend.
That story Bill Johnson tells about going to pray for healing for a staff's mum but having in the end to release her to go home also happened to me in similar fashion.
I was praying for this lady's dad who terminally ill. My default approach is to pray for healing but the Holy Spirit led me to a send off prayer. It was weird.
I felt like explaining to her that I normally pray for healing but no word of healing was allowed to come out of my mouth.
She told me then God had already told her her dad would go. So I literally was her confirmation that it would happen like God said to her.
Same case with my father
So your saying all those poor children in the hospitals with cancer or sick they just don't believe God? Why not go there and heal all them in JESUS name!! I'm so Glad God gave me discernment!! Yes God does still heal but what your saying is God heals everyone, why isn't everyone in this world healed? Okay these little children who have done nothing wrong, God loves them so much
Healing and salvation have the same root
I really appreciate the direct clear questions that are asked
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Reading the comments here brings sadness in my heart. I think there is too much division amongst the Christian churches which will deter unbelievers from the faith. You will never find such division in Islam for example. God has called us to love another as Christians. I understand that they may be errors committed by certain individuals, the Bible allows for a loving correction in this regard, but pointing fingers and judging, words like "False prophets" Does not build the Church at all, it's a way of Pharisees. There are many scriptures in the Bible that shows that it is God's will to heal and I don't It is wrong to believe for healing but we all know not everyone will be healed as it will depend on God's will. I don't think Jesus would go around healing people if God only healed by a way of going to heaven as others mentioned in the comments below. Thank you for the interview Bethel, keep on spreading the Word of God..
The key on this topic of praying for someone has everything to do with the person praying to be in an intimate relationship and submission to the leading/listening to the Holy Spirit for His instruction in each prayer!! God knows each individual's needs, so we need to hear what He's saying on each situation!! Jesus was in constant communication with His Father and in every situation knew exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it! He did not operate according to any formula!
This is heretical come away from this this leads to hell fire! These people mock God and make a mockery of Him. Get out run far away.
Jesus was God.
Jesus even prayed, “If it’s your will.” Was that a prayer of disbelief? No, it was a prayer of submission to the Father even though making his request known. It’s ok to say, my will/desire is this or that, but humbly submit to what God’s will is. I think in all situations, “Not my will, but yours be done” is the perfect prayer.
HEALING is always GOD's WILL
Amen!
Read your bible about Paul and his thorn in the flesh. God did not heal Paul.
It’s also God’s Will that all be saved - are they?
@@mariabean1786 Excellent point.
@Dean A. There are verses that talk about Paul being sick. Why would you think the thorn was something else?
To be completely honest, it sounds like a self-refuting teaching. That one side says it's always God's will, but at the same time it's possibly not always God's will to heal. Am I missing something?
Brother, in the earth dont always happen Gods will, some times it is Human(evil) will, church with Jesus are the ones that bring heaven down to earth. It is the job of the church to do that and sometimes we as church dont get the job done, God is always working in heaven and we sometimes dont get that job done in earth,
@@anglofrances6436 so is God therefore unable to see His Will through? Or is it possible we cannot always presume to know God's will and must rather trust He is sovereign in all things even those we do not understand. The reason I ask is not to be combative but rather to show the theological irresponsibility of Bethel on this teaching. They cannot say it's always God's will to heal and then in the same breath say it's not. They have by their own words contradicted themselves.
I personally believe God is always able to heal and still does, but does so in His sovereignty and we must pray and believe but ultimately accept whatever comes from His Hand, which is an attitude these folks do not reflect, in my humble opinion.
Again, no personal offense intended bro, I just don't accept their lackluster answers to these issues
The reason it doesn’t make sense is because these men have an answer for everything. They are manipulating scriptures to fit the theology they themselves have created. Never forget that if someone is a Christian pastor he will sit with HIS BIBLE OPEN and read the text and explain it. If he can’t read it then he has to make it up. And boy oh boy is Bill Johnson good at thinking on the cuff and sounding calm, rational and wise. Read your Bible
@@kelseys89 totally agree, I think it's funny like you said, he'll sit there with his bible, hold it, point to it, even hold it up but won't open it and read where their teachings are found. It's always a distorted interpretation of an out of context verse
Yes, I agree that action needs to be part of healing. And I consider the action taken as simply an act of obedience to the direction of the Holy Spirit. One to three words of direction [to direct my steps] is all that is given me to hear and obey. Healing is not my calling, but healing has happened even when I didn’t ask or expect it. Over a period of years, i was slowly being poisoned by an unexpected source, and every day I rose healed, until my adversary became shocked and just left the house, never to be seen (physically by me) to this day. Hear from others that he’s still on this planet, but if I ever saw him, I’d have to say, “after 20+ years of knowing you, I never really knew you.” What a shame - he could have just said “goodbye” and I would have been glad for him.
Keep the Feasts of the Lord by the Spirit once for all time becoming a Temple made without hands.
Isaiah 53 is not about miraculous healing, but about 'sin' and it's forgiveness etc. See Chris Rosebrough on this, he makes it very clear!
Exactly!
Experiential faith...awesome teaching. Love relationship over religion. Revelation 12:11
The Prayer of Faith is the one that the Holy Spirit just gave you for the moment !
Hear Yahweh's Voice and Obey.
So what if you believe and have healing prayer for years and still not healed.
God is sovereign and healing comes sometimes in this life but always in the next. Eternity is much closer to us and longer than life here ❤️🩹
Can my suffering, even a fatal illness, be used to glorify God instead of residing myself to "coping faith"? Miracles are demonstrably not always glorifying God (Luke 17:17-18), yet I can still glorify God with or without healing.
The mentioning of "power" that accompanied the preaching of the gospel, according to my understanding, was described not as power to perform healings and other miracles but as the power of the Holy Spirit to convict and sustain someone towards salvation (Rom 1:16, Rom 15:13, 1 Cor 1:18-31, 2 Cor 13:4) which is the ultimate miracle.
as he builds us does he also break us? or is that to do with our mindsets and lies and pride being broken
Isaiah 53 is about spiritual healing it's not about physical,in Isaiah God is always talking about spiritual healing and forgiveness in context
Amen but people don’t read their word is listen to solid teachings instead just go with the celebrity or popular teaching which generally ain’t right
@@SlidingOnSoftBoards Amen
May I ask a question? Something I've been studying, asking the Lord. Where is the concept found in scripture of our physical symptoms being "lies"? Thank you ahead of time for any input.
In 2Peter 2:24 the Scripture says, by His stripes you were*** healed. I’ve heard some teach that by firmly believing the Word, you won’t believe or accept symptoms. They may be true, but there is a higher truth. The physical realm is subject to the superior realm of God in His Word. That is, not give symptoms any weight, to give the Word of God the highest consideration, most valued statement, above what the dr says, what the body says. Healed is SOZO in the Greek, so it includes everything Jesus obtained for us in His atonement. In mark 2:1-12, Jesus connected receiving healing with receiving forgiveness of sins. If you can believe that your sins are forgiven, then you can believe your body can be healed. His atonement provided us with both. The reason many have a disconnect is because forgiveness of sins is taught, preached in most Bible believing churches, whereas healing isn’t. Since faith comes by hearing, it’s important to seek out and listen to teaching on healing. I’m still studying and learning myself. I hope this answers your question.
@@im1mb thank you. I totally get the concept of truth over facts. The word of God over scientific findings. but I don't know where a biblically the teaching of illness became lies.
Paul had a thorn. It was not the Lord's will to heal him.
Tha thorn wasnt necessarily sickness..it seemed to be persecution...
@@drdennisramdinmawia1508 it wasn't necessarily persecution either. And what of Paul's vision issues? Or how about Timothy's stomach issues that Paul mentions?
But there are countless scriptures of the apostles being used by God to heal people?
@@joshuapizarro3231 oh I totally believe that God still heals. I've known several people that have been radically healed of terrible diseases. My original point was, that I don't think it's necessarily true that it's God's will for everyone on this side of heaven to be physically healed. My example was the thorn in Paul's flesh. As pointed out by another viewer, it wasn't necessarily a physical ailment, but then again it wasn't necessarily something else either. My second point was regarding Timothy and the stomach issues he suffered as pointed out by the apostle Paul.
@@drdennisramdinmawia1508 I'm pretty sure Paul's thorn had to do with one of his churches being unrepentant. And it grieved him and was a thorn in his side.
Which do we have more faith in...God's healing power or satans power of sickness...
We should have faith in God whether He heals or not- Job is a good one to read
And if God chooses not to heal??
@@toolegittoquit_001 Jesus paid the price for our healing at the cross and resurrection. It is up to each us to believe and receive.
The Bible say that each of us are born with a measure of faith... I believe that this is ENOUGH!!!
You are right.
Romans 12:3, God has given every believer “the measure of faith”. The measure of faith” is the same for every believer, and it is the same faith that Jesus possessed.
The measure of faith” which is strengthened in you comes from the Word of God 🙏🏾
Believe it His word. Receive it and apply it to your situation.
Romans 10:17 “Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God”
I’m confused. First Bill says it isn’t necessarily about faith and then shortly after that he says it’s “enduring faith” (10:29) that healed the person eventually. He seems to be saying two different things. And can someone please show me where we see Jesus do this type of healing in the Bible? I can’t think of any time where Jesus or his disciples tell anyone to believe for it and eventually they will be healed. Are there any Bible accounts given where they instruct people to hold on to believing that Jesus would physically heal them (here on earth) and then 2 weeks later or 8 years later the healing occurred? If so, please post the Bible references to correct me.
Romans 1:17. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Luke 19:10
For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
How come you (Bill) don’t pray for your healing of of your need for glasses? I have glasses and it’s definitely a huge pain and can use some healing but I might get lasik.
He teaches a false doctrine
How do you know he hasn't? Just because we don't see it happen doesn't mean it isn't the will of God. God provided healing in the atone.
Isaiah 53:4,5 and it isn't about just spiritual sickness because Matthew quotes it and applies it in a literal way in reference to healing (Matthew 8:17).
@@JMz685 he’s still wearing glasses. It seems pretty apparent his eyes are not 20/20. Before the technology of corrective lenses, I would assume that having blurry vision would be considered some sort of disability of sorts.
Maybe he did pray but it’s an exception as well.
@Dean Agnor not nonsense. Just pointing out lack of healing.
There are other teachers in the Body of Christ from which I’ve learned a lot. Like Andrew Womack, Duane Sheriff, Audrey Mack that teach that it’s God will to heal and it was done by Jesus. These teachers have been a great blessing and have so many awesome testimonies of instant healings and others that people stood believing their healing until it was finally manifested. By the way there’s nothing wrong going to an MD or ND. 😊
0:08 Endurance IS the miracle. Or is endurance not sensational enough?
/Liberty through endurance.
subtítulos por favor gracias
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😭😭😭😭 I’m one day closer to my miracle Lord 😭😭😭😭
Amen!
Me too🙏🔥🙏
And if God chooses not to heal on earth, then we still praise the Sovereign Lord and serve him.
John 5:1-14 provides an example where Jesus didn't heal everyone. He only healed one.
He healed everyone that came to Him for healing.
Also what about the apostles? There is no account of them being healed? ??
2 Corinthians 12:6-10
If I did want to boast, I would not be foolish; because I would be speaking the truth. But, because of the extraordinary greatness of the revelations, I refrain, so that no one will think more of me than what my words or deeds may warrant.
Therefore, to keep me from becoming overly proud, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from the Adversary to pound away at me, so that I wouldn't grow conceited.
Three times I begged the Lord to take this thing away from me;
but he told me, "My grace is enough for you, for my power is brought to perfection in weakness."
Therefore, I am very happy to boast about my weaknesses, in order that the Messiah's power will rest upon me.
Yes, I am well pleased with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions and difficulties endured on behalf of the Messiah; for it is when I am weak that I am strong.
God always wants us well! Just like every good parent always wants their child well.
Like Andrew Womack says, if you think it isn’t God’s will for you to be well, then why go see a doctor? Stay sick and stay in God’s will.
Woahhhh
So true!
These people are of their father the devil and not of God the father. These heretics are deceiving and being deceived come out of this right away!
@@JesusmySalvation Who? Not us. They all teach the Trinity, they all teach holiness, they all teach that we can only be saved by grace through faith IN Jesus. They teach the supremacy of Christ all those things.
Why are they heretics?
@@JMz685 hey ratax is 95% pure wheat and only 5% poison, u gonna eat it?
So very sad to read some of the comments below….people attack Bill and call him ungodly names because he believes in healing yet they are unable to come up with a biblical reason why he is wrong
Just because somebody interprets scripture different to you doesn’t make that person a heretic, but if you call them that, that makes you self righteous
As a matter of fact there are many who have scriptural reasons why Bill is wrong. He has been exposed time and time again.
Why doesn't he go around hospitals healing all the covid patients and clearing out hospital beds?
@@gandalf0987 best to watch a channel like “ objective beliver “ or “ Jew and Greek “
They cut through the deception of the heretic hunter movement
@@roshinjay9501 don’t know, but thanks for watching the clip and supporting his ministry
@@roshinjay9501 Have you tried to enter a hospital recently? They don’t exactly just let people go from room to room praying for people. And even if they did, you know how many people would refuse to be prayed for?
We can fellowship with Father in Three Realms Simultaneously !
So what about someone like me who has Neurofibromatosis and Cherubism? I guess I lack faith, correct? I guess the fact that every medical intervention has failed is my fault? Even the surgeries when I was 9 and 10.
Cutting to the quick with this theology of sickness and healing-Is it always God’s will to heal people who are baby Olive’s age?
/geo ex machina
What is her name?
He says all this with his glasses on! (Btw Justin Peter’s said this) what I see is that faith is understood as a superpower that you can grow and use ... god did not promised us to be healed here on earth ... so I will always ask for a miracle or healing but we have to leave it up to god and he will do whatever is right ... and that’s not always what we want or think is right ...
Jesus' earthly father was no longer mentioned when He started walking in ministry. Joseph would have passed on as well.
Thank you Pastor Bill…. What about Apostle Paul? Why did God not heal him? Many unhealed believers are in that situation….
Paul was not healed because of the abundance of revelations he had received and Jesus didn't want him to be proud.
@@Mike65809 that’s not in scripture lol.
@@Lightylight Well that is what Paul said. See 2 cor. 12.
I don’t know if I am missing it but is healing conditional
The only condition is faith
But don't feel condemned if you or someone else is still sick! Colossians, I believe, says although we don't yet see everything in subjection to His Name we see Jesus! This is a great thing to grow into.
God heals people who don't have faith in him (and many come to faith as a result!) but we know that having faith enables God to work strongly in all areas of our life. 😉😇
@@anne-mariemarsh6236 thank you
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Good stuff!!! Great theology!
Great theology haha u for real? Haha get away from this church and these people they serve satan with the pretense they serve God and Jesus, Holy Spirit.
ok great. you have a great chance to prove what you say now. Do it!
Its God's will to always heal, except...? That is confusing.
It’s confusing because it’s a false teaching. God doesn’t double talk but these false teachers do. Just ask this question to yourself whenever you hear pastors talk…IS THEIR BIBLE OPEN?