Wow, this looks awesome. I still need to get back to working on the the first F1 model from a few years ago. Thank you so much for generosity in sharing.
Those things are very cool. I do agree somewhat with comments of the latest gear boxes. The gearbox in todays f1 cars have no dogs or dog rings. Theres an internal dif that when u drop the cage it locks the gear in. Just like a locker. The shift barrol if u were to call it is just a slider inside the diff with pins on it. When its slides in and out the pins lock and unlock the gears.
That’s awesome. I’d love more information on one of these gearboxes. I’ve seen similar setups with the Xtrac IGS. I saw some pictures of a broken gearbox from 2020 and they had shift barrels. When did they make the change?
@@IndeterminateDesign i believe its only a few teams. Everyone claims that its “seemless” but i believe the two barrels is just as quick. You still have to move the barrel inside the gear to drop the cage. The benifit of the diff style gear box dont have to line any dogs up. That also could be harmful to the gear box not matching engine rpm and wheel speed. I believe ive heard them call it gernade shifting. If i can find the artical i will get it to you. I love your work keep it up!
@@tannerstephens2236 Where do you find this information? I am starting to dive deeper into the technologies of F1 and I really want to learn further about their gearboxes. Thanks!
Great work as always, man. It's unbelievable what you've wrought out of that Ender 3 (if that's still what you use.) I'm surprised no company has sponsored you and given you an SLA printer to try
Thanks! Honestly at this point the only original Ender 3 part is the frame. SLA is definitely in the future, but traveling full time in an RV I don’t think I could handle the mess.
Say you're accelerating and the driver desires a shift from second to third. Couldn't you "actuate" both drums the correct direction at the same time, the ring engaging second now is in sort of a preload condition as the torque keeps it locked, until the ring for third rotates around and locks, accelerating the output shaft, taking the torque off second, and the second gear ring is pulled out before the next gear dog catches up. Sort of like clutchless up drag boxes but instead of ramps on the back side of the dogs forcing the disengagement when the next catches up you use the actuator to apply preload. I never thought it could be actually seamless but if the above is the case, it totally can. Downshifts- do they use a slipper clutch + magic? Please help.
This is so interesting to me being an f1 inthusiest great work great vids on this project this is something that would get me into 3D printing but 🤷♂️when lol👍
“Reverse is very rarely used in F1” Well, if you’re allowed 6 gearboxes for the season, I’d guess that means you can reverse no more than 6 times for the entire season. They don’t seem to like being used twice, from what little we see of drivers attempting to use reverse.
Thanks for sharing! Love your videos and projects! While it might not fit an RV lifestyle, take a look at JLCPCB printing service. you can get SLS parts for dirt cheap which for some of your parts could be a better option than FDM.
Thanks. SLS would be a better option and much more accurate. Im thinking about that if I revisit the supercharger project. The hard part is getting the design right. I’m always afraid there will be too much back and forth.
What your doing is really amazing! I have to laugh out loud when I hear these sidewalk critics writing TEN page critics of your work. Why don't "they" put in the time to do something intellectually constructive as you have done?
Brilliant work as always. Just a quick question I've wanted to ask since the last video: those end plates sure look like milled aluminium but I don't recall you mentioning that so maybe I'm wrong and they are 3D printed but sanded & painted to look like aluminium?
Are the MotoGP gearboxes really different? Any plan on building one at some point? (I loosely recall reading somewhere they were truly seamless because for one moment they had two sets of gears engaged at the same time)
There’s another UA-camr building a motoGP gearbox and it’s awesome. I looked at that patent for days and couldn’t figure everything out like he has. Nothing is technically truly seamless there is always a gap in the mechanism, but the motoGP boxes are completely mechanical. Honda made a prototype F1 gearbox that was mechanical like this but I’m not sure it ever made it to production.
I use Fusion 360 which is free for hobbyists. I’m considering switching to the $99 Solidworks hobbyist at some point. I do have to take into account a certain amount of clearance. I typically print a bunch of test parts and usually my printer needs 0.15mm for a tight fit and 0.25mm for a loose fit.
@@IndeterminateDesign ah really did not know there is a hobbyist solidworks version ! My flashforge guider 2 printer optimum clearance with esun and creality filaments needs 0.35 mm
Wow, this looks awesome. I still need to get back to working on the the first F1 model from a few years ago. Thank you so much for generosity in sharing.
Those things are very cool. I do agree somewhat with comments of the latest gear boxes. The gearbox in todays f1 cars have no dogs or dog rings. Theres an internal dif that when u drop the cage it locks the gear in. Just like a locker. The shift barrol if u were to call it is just a slider inside the diff with pins on it. When its slides in and out the pins lock and unlock the gears.
That’s awesome. I’d love more information on one of these gearboxes. I’ve seen similar setups with the Xtrac IGS. I saw some pictures of a broken gearbox from 2020 and they had shift barrels. When did they make the change?
@@IndeterminateDesign i believe its only a few teams. Everyone claims that its “seemless” but i believe the two barrels is just as quick. You still have to move the barrel inside the gear to drop the cage. The benifit of the diff style gear box dont have to line any dogs up. That also could be harmful to the gear box not matching engine rpm and wheel speed. I believe ive heard them call it gernade shifting. If i can find the artical i will get it to you. I love your work keep it up!
@@IndeterminateDesign
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Trying to find the other one ive seen as well
@@tannerstephens2236 Where do you find this information? I am starting to dive deeper into the technologies of F1 and I really want to learn further about their gearboxes. Thanks!
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That thing looks great! I always love seeing your progress on these projects.
This should go on f1's tech talk video's when it's ready
Always love watching your videos when they appear in my subscription box.”!
Impressive work.
Great work as always, man. It's unbelievable what you've wrought out of that Ender 3 (if that's still what you use.) I'm surprised no company has sponsored you and given you an SLA printer to try
Thanks! Honestly at this point the only original Ender 3 part is the frame. SLA is definitely in the future, but traveling full time in an RV I don’t think I could handle the mess.
Really fascinating, thanks for sharing
Say you're accelerating and the driver desires a shift from second to third. Couldn't you "actuate" both drums the correct direction at the same time, the ring engaging second now is in sort of a preload condition as the torque keeps it locked, until the ring for third rotates around and locks, accelerating the output shaft, taking the torque off second, and the second gear ring is pulled out before the next gear dog catches up. Sort of like clutchless up drag boxes but instead of ramps on the back side of the dogs forcing the disengagement when the next catches up you use the actuator to apply preload.
I never thought it could be actually seamless but if the above is the case, it totally can.
Downshifts- do they use a slipper clutch + magic? Please help.
looking good!
This is so interesting to me being an f1 inthusiest great work great vids on this project this is something that would get me into 3D printing but 🤷♂️when lol👍
great work!!!. interesting!
Bro's gonna be a millionaire soon
“Reverse is very rarely used in F1”
Well, if you’re allowed 6 gearboxes for the season, I’d guess that means you can reverse no more than 6 times for the entire season. They don’t seem to like being used twice, from what little we see of drivers attempting to use reverse.
Thanks for sharing! Love your videos and projects! While it might not fit an RV lifestyle, take a look at JLCPCB printing service. you can get SLS parts for dirt cheap which for some of your parts could be a better option than FDM.
Thanks. SLS would be a better option and much more accurate. Im thinking about that if I revisit the supercharger project.
The hard part is getting the design right. I’m always afraid there will be too much back and forth.
What your doing is really amazing! I have to laugh out loud when I hear these sidewalk critics writing TEN page critics of your work. Why don't "they" put in the time to do something intellectually constructive as you have done?
Reddit and experts doesn't belong together.
Brilliant work as always. Just a quick question I've wanted to ask since the last video: those end plates sure look like milled aluminium but I don't recall you mentioning that so maybe I'm wrong and they are 3D printed but sanded & painted to look like aluminium?
They’re 3D printed out of a material called silk PLA. It looks really cool but it’s not as strong. It’s great for the bigger parts.
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Are the MotoGP gearboxes really different? Any plan on building one at some point?
(I loosely recall reading somewhere they were truly seamless because for one moment they had two sets of gears engaged at the same time)
There’s another UA-camr building a motoGP gearbox and it’s awesome. I looked at that patent for days and couldn’t figure everything out like he has.
Nothing is technically truly seamless there is always a gap in the mechanism, but the motoGP boxes are completely mechanical. Honda made a prototype F1 gearbox that was mechanical like this but I’m not sure it ever made it to production.
@@IndeterminateDesign Thanks, I'm gonna look for that MotoGP gearbox
I have a question, which software you use for design solidworks ? And when you design you take into consideration the 0.5 of error in 3d printing ?
I use Fusion 360 which is free for hobbyists. I’m considering switching to the $99 Solidworks hobbyist at some point.
I do have to take into account a certain amount of clearance. I typically print a bunch of test parts and usually my printer needs 0.15mm for a tight fit and 0.25mm for a loose fit.
@@IndeterminateDesign ah really did not know there is a hobbyist solidworks version ! My flashforge guider 2 printer optimum clearance with esun and creality filaments needs 0.35 mm