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Indeterminate Design
United States
Приєднався 3 бер 2020
3D Printing, electronics and motorsports enthusiast. I design and build things to learn how they work from the inside out.
RC Top Speed Record Car Prototype V1
This is an initial prototype for an RC car aimed at setting the 4 cell speed record.
All the CFD for this car was done using AirShaper. Check them out here:
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#3dprinting #radiocontrol #speedrun
All the CFD for this car was done using AirShaper. Check them out here:
airshaper.com/
#3dprinting #radiocontrol #speedrun
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This RC Dragster Uses a Fan for INSANE Downforce & Acceleration!
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Using my previous experience with 3D printed fans and compressors I decided to create a RC Dragster. All the CFD for this car was done using AirShaper. Check them out here: airshaper.com/ Also check out Engineering After Hour's UA-cam channel if you want to see more fan car madness: www.youtube.com/@EngineeringAfterHours/videos #3dprinting #fancar #radiocontrol
Next-Level RC Car: Realistic Force Feedback Steering!
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A project that has been brewing for a long time. I built a prototype force feedback RC car that actually measures the steering forces of the RC car and recreates them via the transmitters. ⭐️ Checkout Joyalens if you need an amazing digital microscope 🔬: bit.ly/3Wt5aqq Article on Race Car Engineering about the aligning torque: www.racecar-engineering.com/tech-explained/tech-explained-steering-f...
3D Printed Hydraulics
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I wanted to experiment with some 3D printed hydraulics to see what was possible. Obviously, never going to be as strong as real metal hydraulics but there are still a lot of possibilities for tiny actuators. JLC3DP 3D Printing Starts at $0.3, Sign Up Get $60 Coupons Here : jlc3dp.com/?from=IndeterminateDesign
RC Hypercar Pt10
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With all the electronics installed on the RC Hypercar, we can finally start to do some cool things like torque vectoring! Checkout PCBWay for your custom PCB needs and get $5 off your first order. pcbway.com/ #3dprinting #rc #racing
Ultimate 3D Printer Enclosure Filter V2
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It's been a year of using the previous filter design, and I went all out with version 2. Tool-less servicing, easier to assemble and 3d print, basically better in every way. Check it out at Printables.com www.printables.com/model/788572-ultimate-3d-printer-enclosure-filter-v2
3D Printed Screw Compressor V3
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Delve back into the world of screw compressors trying out this SLA 3D Printed screw compressor. Checkout JLC3DP Online 3D Printing starts from $0.3 , up to $60 new users coupons, and print out your own screw compressor rotors: jlc3dp.com/?from=IndeterminateDesign Checkout the 3D models for the Screw Compressor here on Printables www.printables.com/model/729476-3d-printed-screw-compressor #screw...
RC Hypercar Pt9
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The electronics for the RC Hypercar were a bit more complex than expected. This video is a deep dive into the inner workings of the microcontrollers, sensors and code that will run the RC Hypercar. Checkout PCBWay for your custom PCB needs and get $5 off your first order. pcbway.com/ Also checkout AirShaper for an easy use, powerful cloud based CFD service. airshaper.com/ If you're looking to s...
Project Streamliner: V5 Design and Testing
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The RC Streamliner saga continues. V5 fixed a lot of issues of V4, but ultimately still isn't a great solution. Let me know what you think. Also checkout AirShaper for an easy use, powerful cloud based CFD service. airshaper.com/ #rc #3dprinting #arduino
RC Hypercar Pt8 - World's Best Handling RC Car?
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The RC Hypercar has finally posted the insane numbers that it was built for, over 4 lateral G of monster cornering. Checkout PCBWay for your custom PCB needs and get $5 off your first order. pcbway.com/g/2f1E6m/ Also checkout AirShaper for an easy use, powerful cloud based CFD service. airshaper.com/ #RC #3dprinting #car
RC Hypercar V2 - Failure is an Option!
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Hard engineering cut of V2 of the RC Hypercar which sadly did not live very long. If you’re looking for an easy to use cloud based CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 #3dprinting #rc #motorsport
RC Hypercar Pt6 - Aeromapping
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In this video, we continue the discussion around RC Hypercar's aerodynamics and we focus on aeromapping. If you’re looking for an easy to use cloud based CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 Here is a link to the article by Zhen W. about aero sensitivity in r...
RC Hypercar Pt5 - Topside Aerodynamics
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In this video, I walk through the topside aerodynamics of the RC Hypercar If you’re looking for an easy to use cloud based CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 #3dprinting #rc #motorsport
RC Hypercar Pt4 - Extreme Aerodynamics
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This is part 1 of the RC Hyper car aerodynamic development videos. If you’re looking for an easy to use CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 Link to Joseph Katz research paper on VG's used for underfloors: www.researchgate.net/publication/338152057_Aerodynami...
3D Printer Enclosure Air Filter
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I built a compact air filtration system for my 3D printer so I can print advanced materials like polycarbonate, ABS, and nylons. Link to my Printables website to download the model: www.printables.com/model/445976-3d-printer-enclosure-air-filter #3dprinting #3dprinter
RC Hypercar Pt3 - Race Style Monocoque
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RC Hypercar Pt3 - Race Style Monocoque
Active Suspension - Trying to build a Bose style suspension for an RC car
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Active Suspension - Trying to build a Bose style suspension for an RC car
RC Hypercar Pt2 - F1 Style Suspension in an RC Car
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RC Hypercar Pt2 - F1 Style Suspension in an RC Car
Shop Infrastructure - 3D Printed Desktop Tool Storage
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Shop Infrastructure - 3D Printed Desktop Tool Storage
Project Streamliner: V4 Design and Testing (Adding Ground Effect)
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Project Streamliner: V4 Design and Testing (Adding Ground Effect)
RC Car Active Suspension - Test Rig Pt4
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RC Car Active Suspension - Test Rig Pt4
RC Car Traction Control with an Arduino
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RC Car Traction Control with an Arduino
Project Streamliner: Version 3 Initial Test - Pt10
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Project Streamliner: Version 3 Initial Test - Pt10
good vid.. slick tranny !!!!
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Hi, I'm a mechanical engineer mostly doing hydraulic stuff for test systems in the automotive industry. Your system is impressive. I've seen some issues which caused the leakage and the which will damage your cylinder over time. First of all the shaft seal has to be connected to the suction side of your pump, so it wont be pushed out when the pressure is rising. Second, your cylinder is bolted down to the table, therefore the piston rod is bending and putting untypical forces to the cylinder head. Your piston rod will wear down the cylinder head fast and it will beginn to leak. Mount your Cylinder in a way it can swivel with your construction. You have negative forces put on your cylinder. Therefore it retracts to fast, almost with no resistance than friction, in industrial applications this can cause heavy damages. You have to preload the retraction movement with at least in line a relief valve or better with a counter-balance valve. In your case this doesn't matter, but it is something you should be aware of. But really nicely done. Kind regards and a happy new year!
Thank you hoping I can modify this to work with my rescued jack Russel who was thrown out of a car and has neurological issues which causes balance issues. Thanks
that would be amazing with my sim rig and some fpv
हेलो भाई इस सस्पेंशन काम कैसे कर रहा है बताइए ऊपर नीचे झटका को अब जॉब करने वाला
Pair this with the video I saw using a Logitech wheel, fancy transmitter, and FPV goggles with a head tracked 3-axis gimbal camera and you'll never peel me off it
You talking about one of my videos? Lol. I'd love to see this exact thing done to add to my setup. Full FFB would make it THAT much better!
I absolutely love the amount of engineering put into this
Good luck with your project. It looks very interesting.
Hi Sir, I'm a mechanical student studying in india. I really liked the ideas of design that you implemented on RC car and I've also in the same project but with different ideas so can you tell me where I can get those frame and wishbone etc.,in india. That would be helpful for me and my project
Unfortunately the RC car I used was 30yrs old so it’s no longer available. The suspension and rockers arms were all custom designed and 3D printed for that specific RC car. I know several viewers used an RC car from WLToys (from China). They had to design their own suspension rockers and servo mounts, but that chassis has lots of room for that.
Hi! Do you know where I can acess the CAD documents?
github.com/indeterminatedesign/SequentialDogbox
Failure is not an option. It's a guarantee on the way to success.
Como estas, por que no tratas de hacer lo contrario y crear un turbo expansor que funciones con aire comprimido para generar energia
I have the Hakko FX-888D soldering station, too. I love this kit so much. I use it for all my electronics needs. I've owned it for at least 7 years.
Take a page from the Chaparral 2J suction cars. Add a suction fan to get your downforce and use the exhaust for additional thrust. Then you can clean up your profiles even more.
Lost pla casting using zamax. I think you'd be surprised at just how easy 3d metal prints are with rubber coated screws this would be an interesting project
Still this a really cool demonstration to show kids how these compressor work. I think this is awesome. I know the ones used in industrial look like they have a rubber coating on them. Maybe try to spray flex seal on them and see how it does
That pavement looked like the moon’s surface, it was quite rough.
I didn't watch the full video, but did you try putting a small horizontal tail on the rear wheel to keep it pressed to the ground?
What is the vehicule’s model ?
Cool video. I like the detailed analysis of your design process. Good luck with the next version(s).
I am looking at your rear steering mechanism, and thinking you can do away with the external servo horn entirely if you allow the pivot to be in line with the servo output. In your speed runs, the steering position will always be straight or near straight while under way, so you could save some weight and aero drag by doing this. I also suspect that above 60mph or so that most of your steering authority comes from the aero rather than any wheels that you would be using for the rear.
F1 Transmission V4 v35.zip in your github was it supposed to be the same as the test prints?
With all due respect and from my ignorance, allow me to suggest a wheel that cushions this ua-cam.com/video/J0sS3Z3BkJU/v-deo.html And because there are three wheels, I suggest you watch this video of German record-hunting cars. I love the minute autounion 3:00 ua-cam.com/video/_I_8VsH01rk/v-deo.html and es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autom%C3%B3viles_de_carreras_Auto_Union#/media/Archivo:Auto-Union_Typ_C_Stromlinie_front-right_Audi_Forum_Ingolstadt.jpg
At a certain speed with this design would it make sense for the rear assembly to be a semi-lifting shape the causes the rear wheel to no longer contact the ground and steer entirely via aerodynamics? The goal being to reduce steering instability introduced by ground irregularities.
As a complete layman, I have one suggestion: why not have the tail rudder pivot on the axle line, and the forward part of the pivoting rudder will also end up offsetting the wind forces the servo needs to overcome.
Also, and I assume you have reasons, but why not add a small horizontal stabiliser to the tail?
Beautiful work man. Much appreciation from a dude who is losing his way in a similar project. I just have a small question to ask. Looking at your self-built electromagnetic actuator, I wonder if you have ever considered a push-pull solenoid? I have tested them and they operates kinda okay.
I haven’t tried one. From what I read they are harder to control and aren’t linear. But I think using the coil itself would be fine for a VCM.
Out of curiosity how much down force in Kg or lbs does the Hyper car create at different speeds, say at 10mph increments?
I haven't calculate that, I know at depending on the wing settings, but it can generate ~4.5kg at 60mph and weighs 1.5kg. Downforce increases with the square of velocity, so at 30mph it would generate ~1kg of downforce, and at 15mph it would ~0.3kg. You quickly find that the car wants to be driven fast as the handling increases exponentially, which can get you into a lot of trouble.
@@IndeterminateDesign That's great info! I race 1/10 buggies and always wondered if the wings were really worth it. You've developed real aero surfaces. Amazing work! 3 times body weight is crying out for the infamous upside down trick! Brilliant project and super well done! I was happy to get a race box micro plugged in and working! if you fancy developing a wing that works on a buggy I'd happily test it!
Hey! I always love seeing your videos pop up in my feed, they're always top notch! Suggestion: Have you considered "gearing" the tail-fin? Instead of using a lever arm connected to the servo, having some kind of "rack & pinion"-esque thing, which could either be integrated into the rotating section of the fin, or some kind of reduction-gear stack (xtra weight too)? Unless the servo linkage doesn't really cause any aerodynamic issues... just something I thought about. Great video as always!
Thanks! I've thought a bit about a rack and pinion, and a 3 gear system an idler gear. I even did a couple of designs. But for one of the few times in my life, I stopped myself and decided to keep it simple to see if the rear steer will even work. The steering arm sticking out does look bad, but it's actually very little drag.
"ground effect'... Utilize afan...turbine...to suck down the vehicle.... Mind the rotational forces ennacted on the moving vehicle... There'll be tendencies to pull the vehicle to 1 side. Possible solution is to have two opposed rotating element's... Now you are talking down force and drag... Get rid of that! "air foils"? Ditch them... When you have that ducted turbine/fan/ or fans...with a skirt surround the edge...think that weird plastic at ice rinks...low friction...and a simple mechanism literally using a lever.. Maybe a spring...better, 3d print a price where using material's width and different mass in specific sections to provide that spring force but no other parts are required to be added...what is the word for such parts? Designs? Compliant parts? So, when the vehicle starts to lift... Pressure is removed causing the mechanism to lower that bottom skirt...and raising it as the car squats. Trust me...ditch the wings and 'traditional' aero ideologies.... You'll have incredible results with a turbine...just don't forget that rotational force which will pull it to 1side.
My previous video was about a fan car, and I'm working on some concepts for another fan. The challenge with the fan car is weight and they tend don't work well at higher speeds. More air is forced under the skirt so it become less efficient.
my dad and i have built a few rear steer trikes, our biggest issue was getting the back wheel not to hop when turning at speed. all of them hopped the last one hopped the least but at full speed it always hopped with any steering input.
Go look at the Carbinite LSR program. I think that shape will be much better and you won't have the rear steer issues. The full scale version was involved in bad crash caused by a rear tire failure, but the testing runs showed massive promise.
Carbiliner was a big influence for this design. If this design doesn’t work out I will most likely switch to something like that car.
Go watch this interview with Andy Green regarding the Thrust SSC program and the struggles he had with the rear steer system. It was border line undriveable. I'm not sure you can make it work for a fast RC car, especially since there is no driver feedback to feel what the car is trying to do. ua-cam.com/video/Flm95WwYLgk/v-deo.htmlsi=xlUn7W7My1-5GvdD
Could you rotate the steering pivot axis to lessen the mechanical trail? There would be some jacking effect, but I'm curious.
With V2 I'm going to try a few different tail designs and this is one of them. It's hard to package that, but I'm going to try something that may not be aerodynamic but at least will test out the concept.
Interesting stuff, I am starting out on my first stream liner, mine will be less technical design and more test and see 😂
I wonder if extending the tail fin forward of the pivot point might improve the steering at high speeds. Moving the CP forward of the pivot would cause the airflow to help turn the wheel in to the turn when the car starts to go sideways. Maybe moving the pivot point over to the wheel axel would help also. What would happen if you added down force to rhe rear wheel?
That’s an interesting idea extending the pivot point forward. There’s not a lot of room so I need to plan my with that idea. I am concerned about the downforce on the rear. Several people have suggested adding a horizontal stabilizer of some kind. I think it may make the car more pitch stable as well. It’s just hard to package of course, but I’m going to make a few different test tails and see what works best with V2.
@@IndeterminateDesignyou could look at a counterbalanced tail surface... Like the rudder on a piper cub. Where the top of the rudder extends past the hinge point.
Hi Afxentis now has a record of 183mph on 4s
Ah, that changed fast. I kind of thought given my rough math the 180s seemed pretty doable on 4s. I need to find an airport to run at then for sure to even try to break that record.
RC cars have suspension too !?
Yes, many of the speed run cars don’t run a suspension all or one that is so stiff they are basically solid. These cars can be very pitch sensitive and fly into the air otherwise. I think this car wouldn’t do that as bad just because of the shape.
6 minute's in. I was looking at your three wheeled design. In my opinion, the car, looking like that, or typical land soeed designs, should want to weathervane. So, it should want to do that with the designs appearance, however any steering input whatsoever would do the opposite of what a vane would want to do. My point is, the fin should move in the opposite direction to the rear wheels steering angle to counteract the wheel. Maybe it shouldn't even move.
That is an interesting idea and would be worth trying out on V2. I really don’t know how much I want that rear wheel to move at high speed. It was way too much control authority. Obviously I could use a gyro to stabilize the car as it would be much more sensitive than a human, but I don’t want to have to go down that road and have another car that can’t be drive ln without electronics.
This design is so cool! You should add down-force on the rear wheel as well. It really is interesting to think about how much acceleration is required for this record.
Thanks! I think the consensus among several people is that I need some sort of horizontal wing on the rear for stability. I’m going to try a few different tails for V2.
Run it on a straight tether line ..
I love those tether line cars. That’s what inspired my streamliner designs.
Nice project . For a fast servo actuated ....thing, you should takeinspiration from the Dynamic soaring speed machines. (548mph). In particular the servo arrangment to avoid flutter. ua-cam.com/video/nv7-YM4wno8/v-deo.htmlsi=bsb_DIs-UFA0gtiD&t=1555
The big issue the ROSSA land speed boys have been facing are the tyres. Not so much with the areo.
Yeah, I have some special tires that I know will handle 30k+ rpm. Finding a place to get to that speed is hard to find still though.
@@IndeterminateDesign save some pennies mate, and get over to ROSSA.
Do the rules prohibit any sort of rocket power? Because you got a very short track, have you thought about active cooling? I'm thinking a CO2 cartridge in the nose blowing past all the components and out the back.
I think they just put you in a different class. They have rocket powered and jet/edf classes. I’d love to try a CO2 cartridge in the tail as a brake system.
Active aerodynamics. It's not a car, it's just a wheel powered aircraft that doesn't take off. ArduPilot is your friend. Edit: I should have waited more than 10 seconds to make a comment. 😶
Okay, hear me out put the steering servo behind the steering wheel, and the servo shroud should be a tall vertical stabilizer, above the airstream of the body; putting this weight behind the wheel would give you the proper weight distribution as well as allow far better geometry for the servo. I think the vertical stabilizer is kind of a must have.
That’s something to think about. Would the servo be above the wheel? I thought about having it behind the wheel but because of the airfoil shape the fin would end up being huge.
Have you ever tried to install air brakes
I thought about this, and honestly I think having them on the tail would be key for stability. The flaps I’m using already might cause stability issues.
Weight at the front and aerodynamic drag at the back. Like a dart. Will want to go straight. You could incorporate gyro stability aerodynamic surfaces.
you could go to a 400m track for runners and test laps there. i do this and its pretty amazing because those tracks are all over the World and you can compare times,
I need to find some people with normal cars to compare against. I have run this car on a track and it’s full throttle all the way around. It’s kind of hilarious. Someday I want to take to a karting track.
Could making the leading and trailing edges of the wheel hubs round help reducing drag? If you need to move the center of gravity backwards, maybe use beefier steering motor, or motors, maybe even strong enough to move the mechanism into it, maybe using two servos get get the force you need if one servo that's strong enough by itself is too wide? Could tilting the steering pivot angle help with stability?
I definitely am looking at stronger servos. This one was less than $5, there are some really nice cordless ones with 5x more torque. I’m going to try a few different tails for V2, and one of them will have some caster angle added. It’s hard to package but I can make a prototype for initial testing.