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КОМЕНТАРІ • 43

  • @Walid.OnTheTrack6725
    @Walid.OnTheTrack6725 2 місяці тому +136

    that's a good starting point, but i don't think you wanna keep that

    • @KK-----
      @KK----- 8 днів тому +1

      I never do this and it completely depends on the genre

  • @elpapu2410
    @elpapu2410 27 днів тому +17

    My main reference is Despacito. Perfect mix, perfect composition.

  • @SkinnyTheSkinwalker
    @SkinnyTheSkinwalker 2 місяці тому +48

    Also take into consideration that different genres use a different tilt. 2010s pop and electronic music uses a -4.5dB tilt. If you go to 70s soul, youre looking at closer to a -1 or -2dB tilt.

    • @gael44444
      @gael44444 День тому +1

      What do they and you mean by dB per octave in this context? He didn't do anything with the EQ afterwards, so I'm very confused😅😢

    • @SkinnyTheSkinwalker
      @SkinnyTheSkinwalker День тому +1

      @@gael44444 generally, a dB tilt is where the frequencies change in volume as you go up in frequency. A -4.5 dB tilt is a more aggressive tilt where you start at a higher volume for the bass and steadily lower volume as you go higher in frequencies towards the highs.
      Generally different genres will use different tilts. 2010s pop used a lot of the -4.5 dB tilt as having bass heavy media was relatively new. If you go to the 70s where vinyl records were popular, the songs would warp near the outside and inside of the record if there was too much bass. So, songs would have less bass and actually use a smaller tilt of -1 or even flatter eq so that the bass would not warp the song.
      The negative or positive number relates to where the curve/tilt on an eq graph goes up or down. Generally, if its negative its a downward slope, if its positive, its an upward slope. I dont know of any songs that use a positive slope though as it would make the song very shrill.

  • @bonebrew22
    @bonebrew22 27 днів тому +9

    For EDM we want the 'disco smile' look where the lows and the highs are a little bit higer yhan the mids

  • @nano7586
    @nano7586 Місяць тому +28

    Sorry but I reference the brown note

  • @TimothyBornAgain
    @TimothyBornAgain 2 місяці тому +7

    A lot of modern mix downs, especially in EDM, lean towards almost a slant. To give more brightness / clarity the high end has become a lot more emphasized. Some good examples of this are people like Knock2 and ISOxo.

    • @youjustgothackedm8600
      @youjustgothackedm8600 29 днів тому

      how’d you get this info? I wanna learn more

    • @TimothyBornAgain
      @TimothyBornAgain 28 днів тому

      @@youjustgothackedm8600 Honestly man, just trial and error. Buy the songs from Beatport (for EDM) that you're looking to emulate in terms of mixing, and place them on a rack with a visual EQ like Pro-Q 3 or some type of analyzer plugin, and you can see that a lot of mixes from the last 2-3 years in the EDM world place a lot more emphasis on the high end. It's always at a pretty fast slant, with the subs at full volume usually hitting +6 and the high end all the way up at +12 or louder

  • @muzy8768
    @muzy8768 2 місяці тому +12

    A tool like gullfoss makes your mix similar to pink noise. Its really great

  • @DJDRAK
    @DJDRAK 21 день тому +1

    actually you wanna use pink noise rather than white noise cause our ear is not equally sensitive to all the frequencies

  • @lostblackat6362
    @lostblackat6362 Місяць тому +1

    100 percent right .... I use it all the time to balance the instruments specially bass

  • @piotrbukowski9566
    @piotrbukowski9566 2 місяці тому +53

    I would use Tonal Balance Control from izotope instead, with some custom curves loaded

    • @DirtyRed
      @DirtyRed 2 місяці тому +1

      Where can I find custom curves?

    • @piotrbukowski9566
      @piotrbukowski9566 2 місяці тому +8

      @@DirtyRedmake them yourself - there's an option in the menu to create custom curves, just analyze drops/choruses of any of your favorite tracks :) you can analyze single tracks or folder averages :)

    • @ghostwilliams1866
      @ghostwilliams1866 Місяць тому

      Tonal balance. 🔥

  • @jacklondon121
    @jacklondon121 15 днів тому

    I want see trance and progressive music style.

  • @fernandofragoso4118
    @fernandofragoso4118 2 місяці тому +2

    Use Spectrum2 by Schulz Audio, for overlayering references. It's more precise than using Tonal Balance Control 2 (which i still use for fast check).

  • @jjose100ify
    @jjose100ify 2 місяці тому +7

    Hmm i think that works for dance music for sure. Most others don’t shoot for a straight line (use pink noise as a reference)

  • @stueyphone
    @stueyphone 2 місяці тому +2

    Good Advice

  • @studiosynthsoundsb.v.383
    @studiosynthsoundsb.v.383 Місяць тому +1

    Pink noise referencing is a great starting point IF YOU DON'T KNOW yet how to treat the mix.
    Best advice (imho always) is just to train your hearing. As when using this method (all the time) will likely ruin that opportunity.

    • @spacesdnb
      @spacesdnb  Місяць тому

      I do agree with this, keep this tip in mind but don’t exclusively rely on one thing

  • @TayyJayy
    @TayyJayy 27 днів тому

    Once the automation clips look like un equal shapes im quiting the project💀💀

  • @1zoidleo
    @1zoidleo 2 місяці тому +10

    i think the line depends on the genre of music youre making...

    • @beforeitends
      @beforeitends 2 місяці тому +2

      definitely

    • @NahTrust
      @NahTrust 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah so much dance music is has a huge bump in the low ends and then flattish mids / highs from the genres I’ve looked at

  • @7_jask
    @7_jask Місяць тому +1

    doing it completely flat is not really the best for human ears tho. our ears register higher frequencies easier so the bass and mid should technically be a little louder

    • @adamrozek5782
      @adamrozek5782 16 днів тому

      High frequencies should be lower, (ears will hurt otherwise, but it depends, most likely hurt).
      Then it's louder bass and mids or variations, it's very genre dependent, as to loudness of highs and lows, depends on how many dynamics we have as well.

  • @nothousemusiconly
    @nothousemusiconly 2 місяці тому +1

    iZotope Tonal Balance Control

  • @jamiecorke3195
    @jamiecorke3195 Місяць тому

    Pink noise for highs.... Brown noise for lows ;)

  • @clown134
    @clown134 2 місяці тому +1

    finally in actually useful piece of info and what a gem

  • @lililWAVEZlilil
    @lililWAVEZlilil Місяць тому +1

    Although this is a good concept to train/understand mixing to progress further better at mixing, I personally think if you follow this it: A. Creates a lifeless and boring sounding mix with no distinct characteristics nor life and B. The 3db slope use to be the standard back in the day, however 4.5db slope is much more accurate and pleasing since it represents how the human ear perceives frequency loudness (especially since everyone adds WAY too much high end in their tracks which add to quick ear fatigue).

  • @VanyllaTechno
    @VanyllaTechno 2 місяці тому +1

    nice vid but does this also apply to hardtechno / Techno in general, I would guess not
    ^^

  • @tubeo94
    @tubeo94 Місяць тому

    But why people keep mixing to pink noise and then later pull up a reference track. Why not just pick up a reference track at the beginning?

  • @sean16hall3
    @sean16hall3 Місяць тому

    My only question is what are you side chaining? Pink noise or the master? I guess the better question is what do you have that instance of the pro q on?

    • @spacesdnb
      @spacesdnb  Місяць тому

      I sidechain the kick/snare to make space in the mix for them, that’s more of a technical part than a balanced mix thing but it’s also very important

  • @adithyasatheesh127
    @adithyasatheesh127 2 місяці тому

    It'd approximately be 3.5