I've seen a few of Jules's videos now and they are always the best on UA-cam, by a country mile in fact. He explains stuff in such a way that a beginner can understand, never uses jargon or *assumes* the viewer has a certain knowledge of the subject already, like many others do. He is basically perfect for this job and I have benefited several times from his instructional videos. I hope he reads this message and knows just how much these vids are appreciated. So BIG thanks, Jules!
Sorry, but I've been a professional bicycle technician for nearly 40 years, and that is NOT a buckled rim. It's obvious to me it is a wheel where the spokes were messed around with to make it really out of true, which is not the same thing as a rim bent from an accident. A bent rim is often only trued with wildly uneven spoke tension, or in really bad cases, bending the rim back through brute force.
A buckle, out of true. A bit picky. It wasn't straight and he made it straight. End of. If your wheel is bent a different technique is required. But when is a buckle out of true or bent, what's the real distinction. This guy offered value and gave value. Thanks man. Great video. My bent wheel is now straight!
Where's the video for people who fell off their bike drunk, don't have any of this shit and just want to know how to go about stamping their wheel back into shape? That's the one I need.
You repair a buckled wheel by getting a new one. Once it's bent, is fucked. You really don't want to push your bike for 10 miles back to the car. Maybe Evans do teeny tiny rides where their dads go with them, but my rides are epically mental in the winter, in Wales, in the middle of fucking nowhere, boom.
To do this cheaply... Turn your bike upside down Sellotape a pencil to the fork or even just a post-it note side-on. Spin and adjust your spokes Check dish by eye.
najaneda that’s works that way if you’re working at the bottom of the rim, as you can see he is working at the top, the nipples are flipped 180 degrees.
this video helped alot after realising i lacked the tools which were in the video i went into the garden shed and found a large hammer, after repeatedly hitting the hammer several times at the buckled bike rim, i was so pleased with the results i pissed myself.
To verify the rim is truly buckled (bent out of shape) you will need to remove all the spokes and see if the rim lies flat. Here the buckle is caused by uneven spoke tension pulling the rim out of shape.
I have seen several videos on wheel truing here on UA-cam. This is the first video that discusses dish and roundness. I recommend you guys change the title of the video, as I never found it when looking for wheel setup, but I happened to stumble upon when looking on repair bucked wheel. Outstanding video. Thanks from Texas!
shand seimela I checked out your UA-cam account. You are into some interesting things. You and I a probably very similar people. If you learn why the King James Bible is THE bible in English, you'll do well. I can provide you with the names of the videos to search.
shand seimela May the God of the Bible bless you for your teachable spirit. In order, from short to long videos: "Why King James Bible Online Bible Questions With Michael Pearl" "Why KJV Only 1-3" by COMB0RICO (my video) "Why the King James Only" (This one I will have to send to you personally. Looks to me that it's been taken off UA-cam. Funny, one of the best ones. It is not the one by Robert Breaker.) "Why I Believe the King James Bible" By Brian McClurg "King James Only Debate This actually changed my mind on this subject" I can list more, but I'll have to dig out the information. Let me know if you want more. Feel free to contact me through
Good video, helpful! I always start by truing straight away, not by finding the loose spokes, so I learnt something straight away. In fact I think I made a mistake by not doing that first earlier today.... I have a wheel that was badly buckled but I've fixed it somewhat and it isn't so bad now, but there are still loose spokes in seemingly random positions. I probably should have found the loose ones and sorted them out before truing. At what point is a wheel too buckled to be trued?
$75.00 plus installed by my bike shop. NO way Jose ! I got the bike for free. I'll try the spoke tightening method first. If that does not work then a wheel swop will happen. Plenty of spares here.
@MrJORDANAKAJJ "does putting your back wheel in your freezer work to unbuckle the back wheel?" I'd say the people who told you that are the same kind of people who say smoking banana skins get you high, or that toothpaste gets rid of CD/DVD scratches. So...um...make of that what you will, LOL. Also, you're commenting on a video that shows you *exactly* how to un-buckle a wheel....so get yourself a spoke key and use the freezer for your food, dude. Hey...I'm a poet!
Is there anything that can be done to fix (fully?) a out wards bulging inner rim? The person who had the bike before hand must have hit a curb and the rim bulges out on boths sides in one point and keeps rubbing against the brakes each rotation The wheel itself is mostly fine except that one bulge. Is there anyway to fix it?
my spokes are loose; ive orderd a spoke tool from your selfs, ive been told to tighten all spokes in the 360 motion and just to ride after that even if my wheel has abit of a buckle because it would sort its self out, is this true? and i havent got a trueing tool like you have in this video
I bought some new wheels and tightened the spokes pretty good but the wheels still wobble and my friend said it was buckled. Have i done anything wrong? Or should i just follow these steps? Or just take it in to a shop?
My front bmx wheel (a proper microlite, from evans cycles) is just a little bit buckled. I can feel it if I ride but I can see it. Worth worrying about?
I lent my bike to a friend who doesn't actually pull up the front wheel when getting into a kirb.... After he used it my wheel is now buckled.. Doubt its a coincidence 😂
He means that it is a clockwise turn if viewed from above the wheel. Just think of the spoke as a long bolt you are holding upside down,i,e, with the hex head pointing to the ground and the nipple as the nut you are trying to tighten on it. If you turn the nut clockwise as you look down on it, it will go further down the bolt- Transfer that thought to the spoke and the nipple, When you turn the nipple clockwise as you look down, the nipple will move down towards the other end of the spoke, shortening it and thus pulling the wheel rim towards it.
Jay Igaboo thanks for the nut and bolt analogy, VERY HELPFUL, first time I've heard anyone say this. The clockwise/anticlockwise thing leads to much confusion. Just bought a spoke key, hoping for the best.
@MrJORDANAKAJJ This is a old skool myth, back in the 80’s when BMX was king it was said that you could put “skyway” mag wheels in your freezer when buckled and then hey presto they will be true like new. There is no scientific evidence to back this up.
Cheers. I'll probably take it to a good/respectable bike shop owner to have a look at it if I have any more problems with it. It's a nice bike/wheel, and I don't wont to attempt doing it my self, otherwise I may ruin it.
When I tighten my loose spokes the wheel gets more buckled. If I tension and loosen spokes to correct buckles the tension is really tight on some spokes and wobbly loose on others. Whats going on?
I don't want to splash out on a wheel trueing stand. So would you advise against having my bike upside down (on its saddle and handlebars) while i spin the wheel, adjust the spokes to correct the buckle? Also, when you say tighten spokes in pairs, would this be adjacent pairs on the same sides, or left and ride sides?
actually my tuffy2s would re straighten in the freezer, way back in 1982. they were hard to bend at that. usually the axle would give first. and yes tooth paste will get mild scratches out of a disc
Why, oh why, have I not been told the difference between right and left spokes? And WHY have I not been shown more alternative views of the process with the spoke spanner. 4/10 for value!!
I gave my rim into one of your stores in Notting hill... let's hope they do a good job. I will be bringing the wheel home before I ride on it to show you the results of their work. Let's hope it's good!
It felt stiffer and "straight", but the spokes aren't tensioned properly and I don't think they dished the rim either... just a quick job. I asked them when paying if I could see what had been done to the rim with a demo wheel truing stand... he said no, e don't have one and I said, how am I suppose to know if anything has changed or it is straight as the spokes weren't even tensioned properly.. he said you'll just have to take our word for it. I was a bit disappointed seeing as they are one of the most famous bike stores in the UK for high end bikes. Some spokes feel extremely tight, while the others are soft. It rides, though.
You get those tools along with wheels of a certain standard. If the wheel isn't too skewed you can use a mechanics stand and you bike instead of the "true machine" he is using in this video. The tools aren't very expensive and every rider should have them, just in case
A good way to know how much to adjust spokes is to take the gap measurement between tool feet and rim (after setting adjuster for other side), divide by 8. For example, if it's 4 mm off, 4/8 = 1/2, so do 1/2 turns for tighten on that side spokes.
Well put together video - informative without trying to flog gimmicks, tools or other crap! Well done to both the presenter and Evans Cycles. Thanks very much.
Nice one. I have always feared buckled wheels because i simply dont have the patience, but thanks to this videos clear and no bullshit terms, i can, Thanks mate
I had a similar problem. I used an shifting spanner to bend the rim in slightly. If you dont want to mark the rims, put wood, or plastic between the spanner and the rim.
why do people still go there? I went it today and they said either I pay 25 for a fix or I have to get a new wheel. I went back home and fixed it myself. if you ride BMX like me go to your local slate shop.
These easy tips without useless talks and other stuff, respect for video fella rider
how do i know how much tension my spokes can handle?
I've seen a few of Jules's videos now and they are always the best on UA-cam, by a country mile in fact. He explains stuff in such a way that a beginner can understand, never uses jargon or *assumes* the viewer has a certain knowledge of the subject already, like many others do. He is basically perfect for this job and I have benefited several times from his instructional videos. I hope he reads this message and knows just how much these vids are appreciated. So BIG thanks, Jules!
If you tryed to use a vice
With wood it woodent work
Ar ar . It wood ar just spring back when relesed you have to ajust the spokes you thick wood ar
Sorry, but I've been a professional bicycle technician for nearly 40 years, and that is NOT a buckled rim. It's obvious to me it is a wheel where the spokes were messed around with to make it really out of true, which is not the same thing as a rim bent from an accident. A bent rim is often only trued with wildly uneven spoke tension, or in really bad cases, bending the rim back through brute force.
That's what I was thinking. If it was that easy, there would be no reason to ever buy new wheels. Or he's a wizard...
It worked for me works well
Yep! He's a wizard... Hahahaha!
A buckle, out of true. A bit picky. It wasn't straight and he made it straight. End of. If your wheel is bent a different technique is required.
But when is a buckle out of true or bent, what's the real distinction.
This guy offered value and gave value.
Thanks man. Great video. My bent wheel is now straight!
snowtrigger67 lol
Where's the video for people who fell off their bike drunk, don't have any of this shit and just want to know how to go about stamping their wheel back into shape? That's the one I need.
no you are lazy...a pencil and a adjustable screwdriver can be used as the same things....
You repair a buckled wheel by getting a new one. Once it's bent, is fucked. You really don't want to push your bike for 10 miles back to the car. Maybe Evans do teeny tiny rides where their dads go with them, but my rides are epically mental in the winter, in Wales, in the middle of fucking nowhere, boom.
To do this cheaply...
Turn your bike upside down
Sellotape a pencil to the fork or even just a post-it note side-on.
Spin and adjust your spokes
Check dish by eye.
After Twenty years experience you should know to tighten anti-clockwise not clockwise.
najaneda clockwise definitely tightens
you see it having the correct effect before your very eyes...
lefty loosy, righty tighty.
depends on your point of view! from hub to nipple = anti-clockwise, from nipple towards hub = clockwise
najaneda that’s works that way if you’re working at the bottom of the rim, as you can see he is working at the top, the nipples are flipped 180 degrees.
Lefty loosey righty righty lol
i tried and made it about 5x worse
I acc died 😂😂😂
pretty good tips,thanks!!!
Is it possible to bend the rim because iv tried this many times and my wheel is pretty buckled and spokes are snapping often now. I bmx btw
this video helped alot after realising i lacked the tools which were in the video i went into the garden shed and found a large hammer, after repeatedly hitting the hammer several times at the buckled bike rim, i was so pleased with the results i pissed myself.
wet your nappy ?
Iam going mad ? he said clockwise but he was going anti clockwise to tighten spokes or was I right and Iam going mad....
can you buckle a wheel to much that this technique wont work?
To verify the rim is truly buckled (bent out of shape) you will need to remove all the spokes and see if the rim lies flat. Here the buckle is caused by uneven spoke tension pulling the rim out of shape.
thank you! got it from having a massive buckle to a perfectly straight wheel! defiantly helped!
Why does it seem to me that the wheel is not even static balanced?
So I'm rather certain that anyone who actually has all of these tools already knows how to true a wheel..
Most of us can't afford to have those tools.
Fantastic! I never knew a buckled wheel could be fixed, let alone how easy it is.
I have seen several videos on wheel truing here on UA-cam. This is the first video that discusses dish and roundness. I recommend you guys change the title of the video, as I never found it when looking for wheel setup, but I happened to stumble upon when looking on repair bucked wheel. Outstanding video. Thanks from Texas!
YES i had the same issue ........i think the way they title this great vid is kinda make it undiscoverable
shand seimela
I checked out your UA-cam account. You are into some interesting things. You and I a probably very similar people. If you learn why the King James Bible is THE bible in English, you'll do well. I can provide you with the names of the videos to search.
sure your welcomed ........proper lets get started send me those vid or links
shand seimela May the God of the Bible bless you for your teachable spirit. In order, from short to long videos:
"Why King James Bible Online Bible Questions With Michael Pearl"
"Why KJV Only 1-3" by COMB0RICO (my video)
"Why the King James Only" (This one I will have to send to you personally. Looks to me that it's been taken off UA-cam. Funny, one of the best ones. It is not the one by Robert Breaker.)
"Why I Believe the King James Bible" By Brian McClurg
"King James Only Debate This actually changed my mind on this subject"
I can list more, but I'll have to dig out the information. Let me know if you want more. Feel free to contact me through
more more
Good video, helpful! I always start by truing straight away, not by finding the loose spokes, so I learnt something straight away. In fact I think I made a mistake by not doing that first earlier today....
I have a wheel that was badly buckled but I've fixed it somewhat and it isn't so bad now, but there are still loose spokes in seemingly random positions. I probably should have found the loose ones and sorted them out before truing.
At what point is a wheel too buckled to be trued?
tbh good that he shows how they do it but ill just got pay to get my 2 done
Yes, if the rim is bent too far, the easiest thing to do is just buy a new wheel.
$75.00 plus installed by my bike shop. NO way Jose ! I got the bike for free. I'll try the spoke tightening method first. If that does not work then a wheel swop will happen. Plenty of spares here.
@MrJORDANAKAJJ
"does putting your back wheel in your freezer work to unbuckle the back wheel?"
I'd say the people who told you that are the same kind of people who say smoking banana skins get you high, or that toothpaste gets rid of CD/DVD scratches. So...um...make of that what you will, LOL. Also, you're commenting on a video that shows you *exactly* how to un-buckle a wheel....so get yourself a spoke key and use the freezer for your food, dude. Hey...I'm a poet!
Is there anything that can be done to fix (fully?) a out wards bulging inner rim? The person who had the bike before hand must have hit a curb and the rim bulges out on boths sides in one point and keeps rubbing against the brakes each rotation The wheel itself is mostly fine except that one bulge. Is there anyway to fix it?
@GhibliFan1 Thank you for you kind words, I'll pass them on to him.
my spokes are loose; ive orderd a spoke tool from your selfs, ive been told to tighten all spokes in the 360 motion and just to ride after that even if my wheel has abit of a buckle because it would sort its self out, is this true? and i havent got a trueing tool like you have in this video
I bought some new wheels and tightened the spokes pretty good but the wheels still wobble and my friend said it was buckled. Have i done anything wrong? Or should i just follow these steps? Or just take it in to a shop?
Tool?
@MrJORDANAKAJJ
Spoke key £2.50 delivered from eBay, man. It's peanuts really.
My front bmx wheel (a proper microlite, from evans cycles) is just a little bit buckled. I can feel it if I ride but I can see it. Worth worrying about?
Um, unless you're in the UK like this video presenter where it is called a spoke key, or in France where it's a clé a rayon etc...
No wrong method tension detention!! If a wheel has been bought up to tension!!!!
go on eBay or amazon and buy a spoke key for under £3
I lent my bike to a friend who doesn't actually pull up the front wheel when getting into a kirb.... After he used it my wheel is now buckled.. Doubt its a coincidence 😂
*onto
wtf he does it so fast
Tristan Lambert
But it is still out of true at the end though
Hi. Will i get my wheel replaced because the wheel on my bike is like 5x worse than it is here. Or will i try and fix it at home ???
Best wheel truing tutorial on youtube. Thank you!
He's turning the tool counter-clockwise from the direction he installed it, not clockwise.
1:06 I'm having trouble to see how that is a Clockwise turn
He means that it is a clockwise turn if viewed from above the wheel. Just think of the spoke as a long bolt you are holding upside down,i,e, with the hex head pointing to the ground and the nipple as the nut you are trying to tighten on it.
If you turn the nut clockwise as you look down on it, it will go further down the bolt- Transfer that thought to the spoke and the nipple, When you turn the nipple clockwise as you look down, the nipple will move down towards the other end of the spoke, shortening it and thus pulling the wheel rim towards it.
Jay Igaboo thanks for the nut and bolt analogy, VERY HELPFUL, first time I've heard anyone say this. The clockwise/anticlockwise thing leads to much confusion. Just bought a spoke key, hoping for the best.
Because the wheels is upside down, its hard to understand because wheels are round but stare at it for a while
watching this set me straight on s few pointers...so its a thanks from me ;)
It's a spoke wrench. In the video he called it a spoke key.
@MrJORDANAKAJJ This is a old skool myth, back in the 80’s when BMX was king it was said that you could put “skyway” mag wheels in your freezer when buckled and then hey presto they will be true like new. There is no scientific evidence to back this up.
Great Video!
Cheers. I'll probably take it to a good/respectable bike shop owner to have a look at it if I have any more problems with it. It's a nice bike/wheel, and I don't wont to attempt doing it my self, otherwise I may ruin it.
bike shop wants $75 USD to replace wheel. they won't even try this.
When I tighten my loose spokes the wheel gets more buckled. If I tension and loosen spokes to correct buckles the tension is really tight on some spokes and wobbly loose on others. Whats going on?
I don't want to splash out on a wheel trueing stand. So would you advise against having my bike upside down (on its saddle and handlebars) while i spin the wheel, adjust the spokes to correct the buckle?
Also, when you say tighten spokes in pairs, would this be adjacent pairs on the same sides, or left and ride sides?
What if ur wheel is going both ways ?
anti clock wise it appears im trying not to sound like a twat
where can u=i get that yellow spoke tool from and how much?
actually my tuffy2s would re straighten in the freezer, way back in 1982. they were hard to bend at that. usually the axle would give first.
and yes tooth paste will get mild scratches out of a disc
Anything tight enough to pinch the spoke should work right?
Why, oh why, have I not been told the difference between right and left spokes?
And WHY have I not been shown more alternative views of the process with the spoke spanner. 4/10 for value!!
the bad news it I dont got those tools :(
I gave my rim into one of your stores in Notting hill... let's hope they do a good job. I will be bringing the wheel home before I ride on it to show you the results of their work. Let's hope it's good!
did it work
It felt stiffer and "straight", but the spokes aren't tensioned properly and I don't think they dished the rim either... just a quick job. I asked them when paying if I could see what had been done to the rim with a demo wheel truing stand... he said no, e don't have one and I said, how am I suppose to know if anything has changed or it is straight as the spokes weren't even tensioned properly.. he said you'll just have to take our word for it. I was a bit disappointed seeing as they are one of the most famous bike stores in the UK for high end bikes. Some spokes feel extremely tight, while the others are soft. It rides, though.
akaSkItTLes23
It turns out the wheel wasn't dished properly.
And stupidly, I basically mean a kink in my rim. Sigh.
Great video, thank you!
at the end of the video he just said "not so simple"?
Dose this work on bmx rims?
is this possible to be done with the tyre still on?
You get those tools along with wheels of a certain standard. If the wheel isn't too skewed you can use a mechanics stand and you bike instead of the "true machine" he is using in this video. The tools aren't very expensive and every rider should have them, just in case
what is that toole called that tightens the spokes
Just saved me £30 and a load of hassle!
Top tip for "Returner" cyclists,or car drivers,lose weight,It won't buckle.Leave the fancy bikes to the whippets.
tighten a small amount?quater turn?half or full??
@RkardV10 Yes, you don't necessarily have to remove the tyre.
Good Information enjoyed it ..UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING ,,NICE YO SEE VISUAL STUFF
A good way to know how much to adjust spokes is to take the gap measurement between tool feet and rim (after setting adjuster for other side), divide by 8.
For example, if it's 4 mm off, 4/8 = 1/2, so do 1/2 turns for tighten on that side spokes.
@SxGP100 one untightened spoke = buckled wheel
missing spokes = one muffed wheel
Thanks dude
can i do this cos my bike has metal alloys
Very helpful, thank you.
nice job this helped me alot but if you tighten it that fast cant you pop a inner tube?
thanks, good vidio,,i got an old 3 weeler bike that one wheel is in need of some t,l.c. i will give it a shot,,i cant seem to find a new one ,
THIS, is how you fix a buckled wheel. You buy a new one. You really don't want to be stuck mid trail with a bannana wheel.
How much does Evan charge to do this ?
Well put together video - informative without trying to flog gimmicks, tools or other crap! Well done to both the presenter and Evans Cycles. Thanks very much.
You never want to tighten straight away, since it can cause a spoke to snap. You always loosen off first unless there is no other choice
Very helpful video. Thanks Evans/Jules. I can improvise the run-out and dishing gauges.
Is that a rimstrip or an UST rim?
Nice one. I have always feared buckled wheels because i simply dont have the patience, but thanks to this videos clear and no bullshit terms, i can, Thanks mate
Couldn't you just slowly tighten every spoke until you notice a difference?
I had a similar problem. I used an shifting spanner to bend the rim in slightly. If you dont want to mark the rims, put wood, or plastic between the spanner and the rim.
Insanely useful. And to think just before this I phoned up my local bike shop who said it would cost £25 to repair
Can use your forks and an old brake caliper for buckle measurement. Can sight the dish measurement by eye.
0.0 I really want that wall of bike tools like what is behind him in the vid! All park tools too from what I can see.
At 1:07 he instructs to tighten clockwise. Isn't he turning it counter clockwise?
This just saved me having to spend £25 at Halfords, cool.
***** And they are fucking bad at it. I just got my bike back, worse than before.
Weert8 I hear you, man. They should be called 'Hellfords'
why do people still go there? I went it today and they said either I pay 25 for a fix or I have to get a new wheel. I went back home and fixed it myself. if you ride BMX like me go to your local slate shop.
got me 50 metres of slate lad, cheers for the advice
@GusdeShazbit yeah its the opposite side of the spoke is what hes talking about.
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any1 noe where i could get that tool from coz my bmx has got a dirtyy! buckle
or you could get a triple wall rim like a smart person,saves truing your rim.
this has helped me so much do you no were i can get one of thos stands from
I hit a root on a Downhill track!Slit my tyre and buckled the shit out of my rim
trade name spokey
Great Video!!!
What is the name of that little tool used to tighten the spokes please?
Video helped me out loads my wheel was fucked😂😂😂 cheers
Excellent