Hey, just some quick info: • None of the players on either team used mouse and keyboard (ximming). They all used controllers. • The basic aim assist that the game gives you was ON for all players, ensuring a level playing field. Hope you enjoy the video, and subscribe for more exciting content like this in the future! ♥
Jay is going to have to start offering free councelling to players in these videos. Xbox tank went from happy 20 y/o to divorced Dad with 2 kids that hate him in the space of 3 maps.
Listening to Xbox coms took me back to when I was top 500. Super hype at the start but when shit starts going wrong it’s all over, we got the worst mental on Xbox.
I was looking to see if anyone said this. In any of the games I play, if someone becomes overwhelmingly toxic or mentally booms the rest of the team, at least 80% of the time it's an Xbox player.
@@kevinkalani back when I played OW at a top 500 level (seasons 3-8 I think?) I learned that whoever tilts the hardest loses. So most of the time I ended up trying to be the calming voice on my team so we didn’t get at each others throats.
@CLNCJD94 yeah don't get me wrong, there are things that tilt me but usually at those times I mute my mic and leave it with just myself because at least the rest of the team won't be feeling that negative energy
@@kevinkalaninah most of the toxic players I encounter are from Playstation I would know because I always roast tf out of them in a dm when they're on xbox. Playstation clowns are safe from me💀
@@chilibruh It’s aight bro. We know the COD Xbox live games are notorious with y’all😂 jokes aside just because you say a couple from PlayStation don’t mean ps worse, I would say it pretty even on both sides.
Huge sombra diff imo. The Xbox sombra kept translocators too far from the fights every time he translocated back. That’s a long way to get back to a team fight especially to keep an advantage or help in a team fight on first map.
@@Pedmagia8 I’m PlayStation but okay? Lmao You’re trying to say the sombra which was away from the fight for more than 4 seconds multiple times fine then you can enjoy being silver, broski. Imagine saying a sombra who put their translocator at spawn doors “honestly fine” LMFAO Also it’s you’re*. Cute though, try again.
@@smaashgiirl8344 first thing I’m diamond 💀 Second thing she puts her translocator at the spawn doors because they well have the last fight so she wouldn’t have time to put it and hack it at the same time and ngl the sombra did some mistakes Third thing I said your because usually the auto correct does it for my because I don’t like to add (‘) thank you for your time 😌
Honestly, both of the their comms were really good but I do think this is a good example of how sometimes less is more when it comes to them. When so many people are talking at once it can become a jumble with the details when what you really need is to be just quick and clear. A last minute "emping here!" like at 3:36 is with some silence between callouts is better than just kind of throwing out details to be making noise in between fights.
To put it simply, you'd never hear marines or soldiers talking like this during a battle. Why? Because it's not only chaotic and ineffective, it's detrimental to your strategy and communication. It's obnoxious and annoying. It is not in any way helpful.
@@cossboss9778 90% of any game top players on console are a xim. Everyone knows and there is a lot of controllers that out perform them too. People complain when they themselves cant beat a xim and just cry? like I know many top 500 and say for siege champ controller players that are controller and do fine. Its the only excuse people bring to the table when they are just buns.
Dink, Akaza, and Kurona were amazing. The perfect about of engage and disengage left xbox playing respawn simulator. When 3 players are just doing amazing, it really was game over in havana. PS5 are built different.
Anyone saying nrg xims is wrong. He has to handcam when he plays w me on our team for cgl. If u lower ur aim smoothing you will notice how much quicker your sense becomes. He just has very good mechanics, give bro his respect
I think my mental would’ve been different I think I could’ve at least taken a map I signed up but it was just randomly chosen who plays. Not gonna say I would for sure win bc the ps team was pretty good. I’ll get my chance soon
@@Yolqqqq I play tank and have always had a lower sense and slowly gone up but personally I use 100. Ik most gm dps controller players use 99. I don’t think there’s such thing as a ‘best’ aim smoothing since it’s all preference. But the most common is 99
the crazy part was the comms the xbox side was louder and all giving callouts.Where playstation side was much cooler headed and gived clear callouts and was not getting frustrated like the xbox players was in later rounds
I would say it was a whole team diff. Ball was being annoying as hell, support managed always to survive and sombra hit so many huge EMPs. And ofc tracer was there to capitalize and hitted insane pulse bombs
@@papapopov2005it’s not. Some of the very best top 500 players drop down to lower GM levels all the time. Doesn’t mean they’re any worse the games just the game.
@@juveintheusa6261 Like who? No they don't if they're playing competitively. If what you are thinking of is early season leader boards, then you can have low gm players peak top 500, however this is only the beginning of the season, and they fall out of it within a few weeks because the better players come and take their spot. This is inflated as far as diamonds peaking top 500 because they happened to play more at the beginning of the season, ( if you didn't know, it doesn't matter if your gm1 with 40 wins that season, 50 are required now to qualify for top500 ) meaning you will have diamonds, masters, and low gm play more than the rank 1 player of last season, but they'll be on the leaderboards instead of the rank 1. Also, I watched the stream from hcpefuls perspective, hearing the party chat was a wake up call because you'd often hear the headrunner say that it was his fault and he would take the blame knowing that he was outmatched by the enemy supports, not to say that he's bad in any way, just that he's not as good as them... he may be top 2% of players, but the other players are top 0.1%. It may not seem like much, but low gm playing with top of top500 is like diamond playing with low gm.
@@juveintheusa6261In a way he’s right because headrammer isn’t exactly the best person to use to showcase an Xbox team but at the end of the day PlayStation also has another inexperienced player on their team so I believe they tried to even it out.
@@cramstick3810 I don’t see that tbh and I don’t think it matters what console your on they’re both the same skill level bc they’re the exact same game
@@emma6648 that’s not the point. prior to the console merge xbox and ps were separate. when they merged, on average, ps player were a lot more shit than xbox players and the old ps players were getting hard flames and pushed out of top 500 because of a difference in skill level
I like this idea. But take it even further and make it like controversial, but mundane, opinion vs another. Like have one team of pineapple on pizza crusaders vs non pineapple heathens (not biased at all) or Pokémon vs digimon. Let god/the strength of the players beliefs decide who wins.
Digimon is better. I would fight on that team. I cant be on the pineapple vs non-pineapple pizza because i think authentic Hawaiian pizza is good but regular Italian style pizza should not have pineapple. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
he said a lot of unnecessary stuff lol but what he saying is, instead of just pc vs console, or playstation vs xbox, do like a basketball fans vs football fans, or disney vs Cartoon Network. The only problem tho, the skill gap, it'll be a roll if like one team has 3 top 500 players and the others best player is a diamond. Interesting idea but it would be tough to make competitive@@Asgelio
You really expect pineapple on pizza lovers to be on the same intellectual level as non pineapple lovers? There's clearly something already wrong with their critical thinking skills, which I bet would translate to OW. Pineapple lovers would get massacred!
God I love PlayStation comms, this is normal comms for us, just chill asf. And then just listening to the xbox team all passively blaming each other, was just a hilarious comparison. Had no doubt in PlayStation though let's go team
In my own experience on both platforms, Playstation players are more reserved and XBOX players are more aggressive. While XBOX players are more likely to die on a poor engagement, Playstation players are more likely to repeat the same mistake multiple times in a single match.
Interesting and I bet it comes from the games and communities on the consoles. I don’t know if it’s still like this, but a lot of xbox players came from the trickshotting and clip seeking era imo. Lots of aggressive players who have good mechanics but are toxic and reach to far in games
Yeah I dabbled in a little of both communities before, personally I'd say PlayStation is more consistent, chill players that either consistently pop off or consistently feed the entire game. Xbox players tended to go for more risky engagements or tried swapping tactics mid match usually to their own demise and usually worse at blaming each other instead of self reflection.. I mean hell in OW1 it took a lil over 3 years to ever get a toxic DM from a teammate calling me trash. But on Xbox my first 3 games I got 5 toxic dms telling me I shouldn't play the game cause I was useless LMAO imagine raging at a literal level 2 border player in quick play.. but it was a cool experience to play on both servers before cross play was a thing, placed silver at first on PS4 (climbed and peaked 2700 for the next few years) then placed high plat on Xbox which inspired me to climb higher on PSN.. But yeah point is they are very different communities, and even in my experiences just way more chilled on PSN for better or worse, still have had less toxic players on my teams in the 6-7 years of PSN OW compared to the 2 months of Xbox OW.
I play both pc and console, and the only real difference i notice is more people play on a lower sensitivity on console, but most higher elo players play on high sens the pace of the game feel almost the same, but mnk is easier to have more accurate aim
Im diamond PS5 player and akazas movement/sens seems way too fast ,u think he's actually on controller or xim cuz his movement and tracking is disgustingly good
I feel bad for XBOX getting kinda stomped here, but we all have to acknowledge that they really were doing well. I really think if they hadn’t have gotten as tilted as they did the first map and just focused on their mental they might have gotten a dub on one of the maps, but I totally get it sometimes an enemy comp is just working so well for them that it can be super frustrating
Imo the enemy comp was one thing but the fact that the Xbox team did nothing to counter their comp was their biggest mistake. Why go tracer when the other tracer (akaza) is clearly better than you while also up against a sombra. And let’s say the other tracer isn’t better, that’s still going to be a drawn out 1v1 due to their abilities. And then ur gonna keep getting hacked; when I play against a sombra, I play somebody that can still perform despite not having abilities. And then u have the widow. In what world does it make sense to go widow against tracer, sombra, Lucio and ball/Winston? The Xbox dps got comfortable with their characters and didn’t want to switch despite getting outplayed.
having played on both consoles before cross platforms was ever a thing. im not even surprised PS players were more chill and laid back while xbox players were like 5 year olds high on sugar when the match first began. really reflects the community on twitter as well lmao
Where did you find these great value bronze GM players for the xbox team. Idk if they were just nervous but they played with the team coordination of a plat or low diamond team
Higher ranks on console is so annoying because everyone is using mouse and keyboard. It’s basically sanctioned cheating. And the cherry on top, when you call them out on it you get the good old “I’m using a controller, but thanks for the compliment”. 🙄
I’ve been playing this game on console (using a controller) since 2017, as well as watching a good amount of top 500 pc streamers, I think I know the difference between controller/M&K movement. The more important question is why the developers allow M&K on console, especially on comp. It’s a huge and clear advantage for them. Not really sure why people get defensive about this topic, it doesn’t seem like a controversial point. I’m sure most people agree that it’s unfair. I agree that some people can’t tell the difference between the two, but in higher ranks for console, it’s blatantly obvious. Either way, that’s my two cents about it 🤷🏻♂️
@@sammyboy68981i have play this game since 2017 on ps4. Its obvius who is using xim. They croach and at the same time are doing movements left and right. The developers dont care sadly.. I remember Jeff kaplan talked about this one time but have never done anything about it while he was on blizzard. Xim user usually are on highs sens. And have insane trackin Pd: also they use heroes like tracer, widow, ashe, mccree, soldier, lucio, ana. Every caracther that are Hard to use on controller I have a friend who use it. And he is gm. And thats because he use mnk
I’m not a high ranked overwatch player so correct me if I’m wrong but I think the tracer for Xbox at the beginning was holding onto pulse for way to long they had multiple times in close quarters where they could’ve used it and it would’ve killed the ball that was diving them but didn’t
Holding ult if the battle is looking even sometime isn’t bad but it’s a gamble. If your team loses the fight then you sold by not using ult. If you win the fight then you still have a ult to win the next fight and stagger hopefully
Everyone talking about Akaza, but Kurona was huge, so much fucking value on Lucio, seems like Lucio plays are difficult to recognize for non-Lucio players...
We just witnessed a damn execution. Every payload map PS was up about 4min and they held 2nd point. All of Microsoft's good players are on PC They never stood a chance
Different players and different comps, you have no idea what the outcome will be. That's Overwatch. How many losing streaks have we all had in our career.
Different players and different comps, you have no idea what the outcome will be. That's Overwatch. How many losing streaks have we all had in our career.
Yeah, it didn’t look like anyone was ximming any time that Jay watched them. It was smooth, but not flicky, similar to what high sensitivity on controller looks like, especially when you could see that the AA had snapped off, and they only could flick a bit to get their crosshair placement back.
@@TempestS0 Yeah, I know. I’m hoping that I’ll just get good enough with low Aim Assist but decent smoothing on controller to be better than them overall with better gamesense and teamwork adaptability. I will say though, in most of my recent games on DPS, I’ve been struggling to win even with better performance than all of my teammates, either similar to the enemy team that’s winning, or even better than them, but I still lose a lot (Going based on K/D and damage for that assessment, btw). Do I just need to play more with that level of consistency to climb, or is there something else I should try? I’m Plat 3 DPS, Diamond 2 Support, and Plat 1 tank (could easily get Diamond 5 again but I rarely play the role).
@@kommandantkillcode don't change your sensitivity too often you need to get muscle memory down. But yes consistently playing above average in your lobbies will help you improve, however in ranks up to low GM you are going to have to solo carry. The worst thing you can do in OW is die, try getting your deaths per 10 down. If you die less, even if you end up having to reset or back out on your own, you will do more total damage throughout the game and provide more pressure to the enemy team. Try to play things that synergize with the rest of your team, or help enable your other best player on the team.
@@TempestS0 My deaths per 10 minutes are probably only like 5-8 on most heroes. I don’t change my sensitivity often, just some micro adjustments for certain characters, and I toned down my aim assist globally so that I could be more precise on my own, and have less interference from the assist when trying to hit specific enemies or objects. I guess I should have hope that I’ll just climb from my play. The lowest I’ve fallen since OW2’s first seasons is Plat 3, so it’s probably my baseline for my skill.
Im on Xbox One and yeah, its easy to get lost. Apparently its not the same on PC and i think its cause you have full control of the rotation of your character. On console, you mostly do but not fully, especially when the sensitivity isnt right. You could turn too far or not far enough like you wanted and get lost but on PC you can turn your mouse quickly and get control over your character basically immediately.
Having aim assist doesn't make controller equivalent to mouse and keyboard. The guy in chat who said aim assist is literally cheating is completely brain-dead and has never played console before in his life.
Even tho I hate xbox players, the matchup wasnt exactly fair lol. Hopeful and Worth are both hella washed with a gm3 support player on their team. Other team has Akaza, the best tracer, and NRG whos currently rank 1. Coach also was rank 1 before i think, but yeah hella unbalanced. It was funny to see the usual xbox mental boom though lol
I belive that playstation has better players while Xbox has a higher amount of good players. But on the mentality side playstation players tend to stay more earth and using the anger of losing to play better; while Xbox players rage when they start to lose
Top console players are a small group so everyone has a good idea of who xims and who doesnt (i.e you can tell by their movement or literally hearing their keyboard in voice chat). Like idk everyone here but for example hcpeful and zero are known on controller
I assume he grew up on it and have fond memories. I did as well, but now bias towards ps5 only because i own one and been playing it since i quit pc gaming. Honestly, ps5 gamers are better skill wise. And it showed.
@paulgeorge6223 it's obvious they are. Accurate Flicks like the ones basically everyone did aren't possible without m+k. Only The Moria had your obviously typical, smooth, constant, controller-esque movement. Rapid micro flicks, as shown by basically all the dps in this, are straight up not possible. Controllers don't Flick. Every aim adjustment should look fluid, and constant compared to every other one. That's just not the case for a lot of these players. The aim assistance is REALLY obvious, too. (Especially from sombra's pov)
Imma be honest i skipped through. And u should have checked if ppl are MnK and not give them a platform. NRG if u are reading this and u aren't MnK, im. Sorry but u look like hard like MnK. Other ppl too tho. Its sad How PC player underestimate that issue. Same with Kenzo when he did his 1v1 vs a "Console player" who clearly used MnK.
@@NIGHTMAREONG i avoid playing on my main, simple bc of MnK players. So i just chill with friends in low elo and have fun. So i dont know a lot of high elo player.
Having both systems taught me something fundamental, and it showed in this gameplay: PS players bond over their love for gaming, and Xbox players bond over their hate for Sony.
@@eriiicj.1558 idk how it is in other countries but here in Brazil almost nobody grew up with xbox so most people are from PS and they are 24/7 saying "OMG XBOX BAD GUYS XBOX IS SO BAD OMG XBOX BAD"
@@skong-o3x understandable. It could just be my sample size. More people have PS, so maybe there are simply more examples of what I’ve seen and the proportions are similar across the board. I think console wars are silly, and we’d all benefit without exclusivity and the culture around which is best. But I also understand that Xbox desperately needs to be competitive in the market. Either way, the hate isn’t one-sided.
@coastwardarc46 If y'all ever get them. Pretty sure God of War, The Last of Us, Spider Man etc. are still Sony exclusive...you know the games that are competing for game of the year. I don't care how good a game looks if the game itself is trash.
@@kevinkalani I'm fine with them being exclusive, I was saying they'll look better on the xbox and if we still got them, everyone will know where we got it from anyways so people are just going to clash on xbox for "needing the games"
Jay3 you almost redeemed yourself at 4:47, then you had to say it. From the Merciless Mercy's to the Lucio Mafia, you are in the deep end of hot water. This is the last time I'll say a big paragraph about this but, THEY ARE SUPPORTS, NOT HEALERS!
@jamesnicol4050 Stay mad you spent 500 to play single player only adventure games and gamepass stomps over everything you have🤡😂 Starfield in a couple of days what was the last great PS exclusive? More Spider-Man? Last of us? God of bore? 🥱 dead console
Hey, just some quick info:
• None of the players on either team used mouse and keyboard (ximming). They all used controllers.
• The basic aim assist that the game gives you was ON for all players, ensuring a level playing field.
Hope you enjoy the video, and subscribe for more exciting content like this in the future! ♥
Hey jay, is the game ps vs pc after that also getting posted? Or no cause it wasnt plannend. Also ty for having me!
Nice ps vs pve gameplay
And Cronus?
You should do this with every rank (bronze PlayStation vs bronze Xbox, etc)
Can we get a rematch for play console
Jay is going to have to start offering free councelling to players in these videos. Xbox tank went from happy 20 y/o to divorced Dad with 2 kids that hate him in the space of 3 maps.
You did not have to go that dark, but they did😂
Worthshatter is the biggest fucking crybaby in the game. I hope you never meet this loser because he is like that EVERY game.
Console is just extremely toxic lmfao
Worth got rank 1 on PC, not much coaching to be done
Worth used to be a piece of shit and was racist asf. That’s what you don’t see in this
@@TempestS0overwatch pc is ez
"I usually dont root for any team" meanwhile bro be putting up his life savings for pc players to win against console 💀
Felt he was team Xbox for this entire video😅
@@sko3925he's talking about when he did pc vrs console
Yeah true I remember how he was cut when PlayStation GMs rolled the PC GMs and when the console Silver's rolled the PC silvers
@@Hayden-yb7yyit was hilarious
i was glad that the console players rolled the PC players, bet it humbled jay 💀
"this guy akaza is a demon" that comment made me chuckle
Nice
Lit
clocked that too 😭
He truely is a Demon^^
He said that because Akaza is a demon in a show called demon slayer
the snore when he says the rank games be like is so so so TRUE
fr me and my duo just sit in group chat saying nothing and it’s just zzzzzz cause I play mercy
Why don't you join voice chat
Listening to Xbox coms took me back to when I was top 500. Super hype at the start but when shit starts going wrong it’s all over, we got the worst mental on Xbox.
I was looking to see if anyone said this. In any of the games I play, if someone becomes overwhelmingly toxic or mentally booms the rest of the team, at least 80% of the time it's an Xbox player.
@@kevinkalani back when I played OW at a top 500 level (seasons 3-8 I think?) I learned that whoever tilts the hardest loses. So most of the time I ended up trying to be the calming voice on my team so we didn’t get at each others throats.
@CLNCJD94 yeah don't get me wrong, there are things that tilt me but usually at those times I mute my mic and leave it with just myself because at least the rest of the team won't be feeling that negative energy
@@kevinkalaninah most of the toxic players I encounter are from Playstation
I would know because I always roast tf out of them in a dm when they're on xbox. Playstation clowns are safe from me💀
@@chilibruh It’s aight bro. We know the COD Xbox live games are notorious with y’all😂 jokes aside just because you say a couple from PlayStation don’t mean ps worse, I would say it pretty even on both sides.
Huge sombra diff imo. The Xbox sombra kept translocators too far from the fights every time he translocated back. That’s a long way to get back to a team fight especially to keep an advantage or help in a team fight on first map.
The sombra was honestly fine your a Xbox player ofc
@@Pedmagia8 I’m PlayStation but okay? Lmao
You’re trying to say the sombra which was away from the fight for more than 4 seconds multiple times fine then you can enjoy being silver, broski. Imagine saying a sombra who put their translocator at spawn doors “honestly fine” LMFAO
Also it’s you’re*. Cute though, try again.
@@smaashgiirl8344 first thing I’m diamond 💀
Second thing she puts her translocator at the spawn doors because they well have the last fight so she wouldn’t have time to put it and hack it at the same time and ngl the sombra did some mistakes
Third thing I said your because usually the auto correct does it for my because I don’t like to add (‘) thank you for your time 😌
@@smaashgiirl8344Goofy ahh arguments on both sides, bozos getting mad at a game zzzz
@@jaydenhohman2590 who tf are you supposed to be 💀
Thanks jay for giving me the chance to play in this, i had loads of fun, looking forward to playing again!
Do you have to pay to be in these?
@@XiiOli no kid just be in the required rank
@@FateItself_ “kid” bro come 1v1 me, then we’ll see who’s the “kid”
Also, there’s no way you’re on ps5 and still use 60fps, c’mon now.
@@XiiOlihit a spot?
Honestly, both of the their comms were really good but I do think this is a good example of how sometimes less is more when it comes to them. When so many people are talking at once it can become a jumble with the details when what you really need is to be just quick and clear. A last minute "emping here!" like at 3:36 is with some silence between callouts is better than just kind of throwing out details to be making noise in between fights.
That wouldn’t have helped Xbox got rolled
@@SaltySalt69 no one was even talking about that
To put it simply, you'd never hear marines or soldiers talking like this during a battle. Why? Because it's not only chaotic and ineffective, it's detrimental to your strategy and communication.
It's obnoxious and annoying. It is not in any way helpful.
That Akaza tracer is actually insane
you do know hes actually cheating wiht xim
no he isnt lmao @@cossboss9778
@@cossboss9778 he does not xim you robot
@@cossboss9778 90% of any game top players on console are a xim. Everyone knows and there is a lot of controllers that out perform them too. People complain when they themselves cant beat a xim and just cry? like I know many top 500 and say for siege champ controller players that are controller and do fine. Its the only excuse people bring to the table when they are just buns.
@@Unohxnahe literally stream his games he is on control :)
The ultimate deciding factor on who wins these games is more on the team personality and synergy than actual skill
Dink, Akaza, and Kurona were amazing. The perfect about of engage and disengage left xbox playing respawn simulator. When 3 players are just doing amazing, it really was game over in havana. PS5 are built different.
Don'tforget NRG, they were insane on Sombra
Stop hating on Xbox
@@Lajon_mishki naw bro.
As an Xbox enjoyer, this video had me crying. Them PS players were on another level😔
Hcpeful would win 1v1 against any of those dudes though.
i beat PS4 players all the time but that’s in diamond lobbies, it literally just comes down to personal skill, no console advantages 🤣
Anyone saying nrg xims is wrong. He has to handcam when he plays w me on our team for cgl. If u lower ur aim smoothing you will notice how much quicker your sense becomes. He just has very good mechanics, give bro his respect
Do u win these instead of worth
I think my mental would’ve been different I think I could’ve at least taken a map I signed up but it was just randomly chosen who plays. Not gonna say I would for sure win bc the ps team was pretty good. I’ll get my chance soon
What’s the best aim soothing on your opinion?
@@Yolqqqq I play tank and have always had a lower sense and slowly gone up but personally I use 100. Ik most gm dps controller players use 99. I don’t think there’s such thing as a ‘best’ aim smoothing since it’s all preference. But the most common is 99
@@Necrize_why did they even put worthshatter in this 💀. why not u or vinnie or someone reliable
Dinks ball was the greatest part of this whole vid
Thanks my guy
@@onlydinksheredo you think you could share your sens?
@@onlydinkshere i loved your call outs ❤
the crazy part was the comms the xbox side was louder and all giving callouts.Where playstation side was much cooler headed and gived clear callouts and was not getting frustrated like the xbox players was in later rounds
I wanna see a video of Jay trying to play on controller, that’d be fun haha or do like a Dafran challenge and try to get top 500 on controller!
He'll get pretty far with his game sense, but it'll take him a loooong time to do anything with a controller.
Your should really do more console content. I’m a playstation OW players and i’ve always wanted to be apart of your events
hey jay3 theres this short receding guy in a box on the side of the screen and he keeps interrupting the gameplay
😭
im sorry but I thought the comment said receding hairline 😭
The Xbox tank blaming the brig Moira was hilariously wrong.
its because they put worthshatter on tank. any long term Xbox player knows he is absolute poo 💀
@@bobwilliam6242He got rank one tank on pc at one point
the other team was basically running the same comp, it had nothing to do with the characters lmfaoo, it was just a team diff 😭
Next up Top 500 Nintendo Switch players!
top 500 on switch is silver on PS5
@@armando5994 💀
the tracer carried PlayStation hard
Stop crying
@@telneo6720 Xbox had Hopeful. Dude is one of the top PC tracers too lol
I would say it was a whole team diff. Ball was being annoying as hell, support managed always to survive and sombra hit so many huge EMPs. And ofc tracer was there to capitalize and hitted insane pulse bombs
@@dolphinturtlekin6282he was talking about ps tracer, plus hcpeful might one of the best on console, but definitely not on pc lol
@@v1nniacb452pretty sure he’s reached rank #1 before on pc
theres a huge difference between gm5 and gm1. i think if u do this again u should just have them all in 1 rank division
The only person in the lobby who was not GM1 was Headrammer. Everyone else is currently GM1 on the role they played.
@@Majorskillissue101Yeah, that's a huge difference.
@@papapopov2005it’s not. Some of the very best top 500 players drop down to lower GM levels all the time. Doesn’t mean they’re any worse the games just the game.
@@juveintheusa6261 Like who? No they don't if they're playing competitively. If what you are thinking of is early season leader boards, then you can have low gm players peak top 500, however this is only the beginning of the season, and they fall out of it within a few weeks because the better players come and take their spot. This is inflated as far as diamonds peaking top 500 because they happened to play more at the beginning of the season, ( if you didn't know, it doesn't matter if your gm1 with 40 wins that season, 50 are required now to qualify for top500 ) meaning you will have diamonds, masters, and low gm play more than the rank 1 player of last season, but they'll be on the leaderboards instead of the rank 1. Also, I watched the stream from hcpefuls perspective, hearing the party chat was a wake up call because you'd often hear the headrunner say that it was his fault and he would take the blame knowing that he was outmatched by the enemy supports, not to say that he's bad in any way, just that he's not as good as them... he may be top 2% of players, but the other players are top 0.1%. It may not seem like much, but low gm playing with top of top500 is like diamond playing with low gm.
@@juveintheusa6261In a way he’s right because headrammer isn’t exactly the best person to use to showcase an Xbox team but at the end of the day PlayStation also has another inexperienced player on their team so I believe they tried to even it out.
"Playstation players seems to be more calm"
Not surprised in the slightest
I expect no less from Playstation
Facts
They cant even hit top 10 reliably
@@frostlcx What does that say about XBox?
@@frostlcxyou are lost to start the console and say something like that go to your mama
@@frostlcxIsnt NRG is like top 1 atm
Does anyone know if the akaza tracer player on playstation has a youtube channel or a twitch channel? Would love to watch him
Playstation group was so chill. While xbox was more chaotic. Hope they do a rematch soon. Nice vid❤
Jay3 is going to start again the console war again
xbox players literally always talk shit about PS players. glad to see the xbox get literally dominated
@@cramstick3810where?
@@emma6648 all over top 500. everytime i’m with xbox players and they see a ps player or a full ps team they’ll say something like "ps sh1tters" etc
@@cramstick3810 I don’t see that tbh and I don’t think it matters what console your on they’re both the same skill level bc they’re the exact same game
@@emma6648 that’s not the point. prior to the console merge xbox and ps were separate. when they merged, on average, ps player were a lot more shit than xbox players and the old ps players were getting hard flames and pushed out of top 500 because of a difference in skill level
I like this idea. But take it even further and make it like controversial, but mundane, opinion vs another. Like have one team of pineapple on pizza crusaders vs non pineapple heathens (not biased at all) or Pokémon vs digimon. Let god/the strength of the players beliefs decide who wins.
what
Digimon is better. I would fight on that team.
I cant be on the pineapple vs non-pineapple pizza because i think authentic Hawaiian pizza is good but regular Italian style pizza should not have pineapple. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
he said a lot of unnecessary stuff lol but what he saying is, instead of just pc vs console, or playstation vs xbox, do like a basketball fans vs football fans, or disney vs Cartoon Network. The only problem tho, the skill gap, it'll be a roll if like one team has 3 top 500 players and the others best player is a diamond. Interesting idea but it would be tough to make competitive@@Asgelio
You really expect pineapple on pizza lovers to be on the same intellectual level as non pineapple lovers? There's clearly something already wrong with their critical thinking skills, which I bet would translate to OW. Pineapple lovers would get massacred!
what the fuck are you babbling about?
let Playstation cook
They cooking 😂
Jay got the Xbox player from fiver I swear. They quiet before even trying
Imagine the enemy team jumping on you as soon as u separate and you just keep doing the same thing💀
This was way more enjoyable to watch than OW League! Amazing concept keep it up! #teamplaystation
Much love to my fellow console warriors 🎮
xbox controls top 500 lil bro
@@Everything420rivals "xim"
Akaza is Beastman, Best tracer player on Playstation. Me and my friend queued into him in a qp. And he was on our team on zen. That man carried us
He got socials?
He got a yt?
@adamj-3014 beastman076 on twitch and yt but he hasn't uploaded in yrs
@@mike2148 beastman076 on yt and twitch but he hasn't uploaded in years bro
God I love PlayStation comms, this is normal comms for us, just chill asf. And then just listening to the xbox team all passively blaming each other, was just a hilarious comparison. Had no doubt in PlayStation though let's go team
In my own experience on both platforms, Playstation players are more reserved and XBOX players are more aggressive. While XBOX players are more likely to die on a poor engagement, Playstation players are more likely to repeat the same mistake multiple times in a single match.
Interesting and I bet it comes from the games and communities on the consoles. I don’t know if it’s still like this, but a lot of xbox players came from the trickshotting and clip seeking era imo. Lots of aggressive players who have good mechanics but are toxic and reach to far in games
Yeah I dabbled in a little of both communities before, personally I'd say PlayStation is more consistent, chill players that either consistently pop off or consistently feed the entire game. Xbox players tended to go for more risky engagements or tried swapping tactics mid match usually to their own demise and usually worse at blaming each other instead of self reflection.. I mean hell in OW1 it took a lil over 3 years to ever get a toxic DM from a teammate calling me trash. But on Xbox my first 3 games I got 5 toxic dms telling me I shouldn't play the game cause I was useless LMAO imagine raging at a literal level 2 border player in quick play.. but it was a cool experience to play on both servers before cross play was a thing, placed silver at first on PS4 (climbed and peaked 2700 for the next few years) then placed high plat on Xbox which inspired me to climb higher on PSN..
But yeah point is they are very different communities, and even in my experiences just way more chilled on PSN for better or worse, still have had less toxic players on my teams in the 6-7 years of PSN OW compared to the 2 months of Xbox OW.
Jays Face 🥴 @11:30
Best Part of the Video 😂👌🏻
I play both pc and console, and the only real difference i notice is more people play on a lower sensitivity on console, but most higher elo players play on high sens the pace of the game feel almost the same, but mnk is easier to have more accurate aim
Im diamond PS5 player and akazas movement/sens seems way too fast ,u think he's actually on controller or xim cuz his movement and tracking is disgustingly good
sleeping on kurona’s lucio
Indeed so huge, those plays made a huge support diff, litteraly worlds appart...
@@krnt13like his movements are so good for playstation
I’ve played both for years, there’s no difference in skill levels at all. Many people switch or play both.
Then wtf was this that we just watched
@@mmm-ww8jp5 players don’t represent the entire player base
I feel bad for XBOX getting kinda stomped here, but we all have to acknowledge that they really were doing well. I really think if they hadn’t have gotten as tilted as they did the first map and just focused on their mental they might have gotten a dub on one of the maps, but I totally get it sometimes an enemy comp is just working so well for them that it can be super frustrating
Imo the enemy comp was one thing but the fact that the Xbox team did nothing to counter their comp was their biggest mistake. Why go tracer when the other tracer (akaza) is clearly better than you while also up against a sombra. And let’s say the other tracer isn’t better, that’s still going to be a drawn out 1v1 due to their abilities. And then ur gonna keep getting hacked; when I play against a sombra, I play somebody that can still perform despite not having abilities. And then u have the widow. In what world does it make sense to go widow against tracer, sombra, Lucio and ball/Winston? The Xbox dps got comfortable with their characters and didn’t want to switch despite getting outplayed.
@@piercerogers8634it's because most of top500 Xbox players are XIM
@@piercerogers8634ok but where did you get this info because it sounds like copium
@@xivnncope harder legit nrg uses handcam
well that wasn’t the case
having played on both consoles before cross platforms was ever a thing. im not even surprised PS players were more chill and laid back while xbox players were like 5 year olds high on sugar when the match first began. really reflects the community on twitter as well lmao
Where did you find these great value bronze GM players for the xbox team. Idk if they were just nervous but they played with the team coordination of a plat or low diamond team
Low GM because high GM on Xbox is full of xim
@@xivnn Wrong, All players were GM1 except for Headrammer. Nobody ximmed either. 7/10 of the players in the lobby have rank 1 peaks too.
not true. 4 of the Xbox players have been rank 1 before. All controller.
Went exactly as I expected, I love coach too but he didn’t seem in his form today
22:00 pin is perfectly balanced lmao
Jay is being back console war with this video 😂 love it but might make a mess with this one keep it up jay ❤
The amount of egos that was unlocked from this is gonna be sad
Bro Akaza is like top 500 in tank and dps. He is him.
give xbox 2x the stats next time
Higher ranks on console is so annoying because everyone is using mouse and keyboard. It’s basically sanctioned cheating. And the cherry on top, when you call them out on it you get the good old “I’m using a controller, but thanks for the compliment”. 🙄
Get better lol
Hahahaha that’s another classic
I’ve been playing this game on console (using a controller) since 2017, as well as watching a good amount of top 500 pc streamers, I think I know the difference between controller/M&K movement.
The more important question is why the developers allow M&K on console, especially on comp. It’s a huge and clear advantage for them.
Not really sure why people get defensive about this topic, it doesn’t seem like a controversial point. I’m sure most people agree that it’s unfair. I agree that some people can’t tell the difference between the two, but in higher ranks for console, it’s blatantly obvious. Either way, that’s my two cents about it 🤷🏻♂️
@@sammyboy68981i have play this game since 2017 on ps4. Its obvius who is using xim. They croach and at the same time are doing movements left and right.
The developers dont care sadly.. I remember Jeff kaplan talked about this one time but have never done anything about it while he was on blizzard.
Xim user usually are on highs sens. And have insane trackin
Pd: also they use heroes like tracer, widow, ashe, mccree, soldier, lucio, ana. Every caracther that are Hard to use on controller
I have a friend who use it. And he is gm. And thats because he use mnk
Xbox ganggggg 🤞🏾 respect to the playstation players obviously 🙏🏾
@@tiagosurrador1276everyone loves junko
The irony of Jay saying, "this Akaza guy's a fuckin' demon?!"
I’m not a high ranked overwatch player so correct me if I’m wrong but I think the tracer for Xbox at the beginning was holding onto pulse for way to long they had multiple times in close quarters where they could’ve used it and it would’ve killed the ball that was diving them but didn’t
hcpeful got diffed into oblivion ngl
Holding ult if the battle is looking even sometime isn’t bad but it’s a gamble. If your team loses the fight then you sold by not using ult. If you win the fight then you still have a ult to win the next fight and stagger hopefully
I wouldn’t really question him been rank 1 ladder many times n has been rank 1 pc/ Xbox same time I’m sure he had a reason to hold
Everyone talking about Akaza, but Kurona was huge, so much fucking value on Lucio, seems like Lucio plays are difficult to recognize for non-Lucio players...
Now waiting for switch's grandmasters
u can wait for years😂
Crazy to see that I recognize some top 5 xbox names from years ago, crazy how they still going
We just witnessed a damn execution. Every payload map PS was up about 4min and they held 2nd point.
All of Microsoft's good players are on PC
They never stood a chance
Different players and different comps, you have no idea what the outcome will be. That's Overwatch. How many losing streaks have we all had in our career.
headhammer was lowkey selling
The Ball carried
Yo thanks
Different players and different comps, you have no idea what the outcome will be. That's Overwatch. How many losing streaks have we all had in our career.
Jay need put some respect on PlayStations name
Was there ever any question of who’s on top
You should do UA-cam vs twitch
Headrammer 8:48 with that sensitivity is like how my day goes so low
Watched this live; PlayStation ftw!!! It’s a shame that nobody owned up to their skills, and called cheats or ximming.
Yeah, it didn’t look like anyone was ximming any time that Jay watched them. It was smooth, but not flicky, similar to what high sensitivity on controller looks like, especially when you could see that the AA had snapped off, and they only could flick a bit to get their crosshair placement back.
@@kommandantkillcodeno ximmers in this lobby, though it's not like it's anything out of the ordinary for us. Always at least 1 ximmers in our games
@@TempestS0 Yeah, I know. I’m hoping that I’ll just get good enough with low Aim Assist but decent smoothing on controller to be better than them overall with better gamesense and teamwork adaptability. I will say though, in most of my recent games on DPS, I’ve been struggling to win even with better performance than all of my teammates, either similar to the enemy team that’s winning, or even better than them, but I still lose a lot (Going based on K/D and damage for that assessment, btw). Do I just need to play more with that level of consistency to climb, or is there something else I should try? I’m Plat 3 DPS, Diamond 2 Support, and Plat 1 tank (could easily get Diamond 5 again but I rarely play the role).
@@kommandantkillcode don't change your sensitivity too often you need to get muscle memory down. But yes consistently playing above average in your lobbies will help you improve, however in ranks up to low GM you are going to have to solo carry. The worst thing you can do in OW is die, try getting your deaths per 10 down. If you die less, even if you end up having to reset or back out on your own, you will do more total damage throughout the game and provide more pressure to the enemy team. Try to play things that synergize with the rest of your team, or help enable your other best player on the team.
@@TempestS0 My deaths per 10 minutes are probably only like 5-8 on most heroes. I don’t change my sensitivity often, just some micro adjustments for certain characters, and I toned down my aim assist globally so that I could be more precise on my own, and have less interference from the assist when trying to hit specific enemies or objects. I guess I should have hope that I’ll just climb from my play. The lowest I’ve fallen since OW2’s first seasons is Plat 3, so it’s probably my baseline for my skill.
Xbox gonna need 1.5x the stats if this happens again
Fr
As an xbox player i can say that xbox players take their games very seriously.
Im on Xbox One and yeah, its easy to get lost. Apparently its not the same on PC and i think its cause you have full control of the rotation of your character. On console, you mostly do but not fully, especially when the sensitivity isnt right. You could turn too far or not far enough like you wanted and get lost but on PC you can turn your mouse quickly and get control over your character basically immediately.
Btw they went against top 500 pc legit right after this and the playstation team won again 3 - 0
That PlayStation Tracer was crazy and jay only mentioned it once.
On controller your sensitivity is capted at 10 but your can accommodate that with other parameters and you have aim assist
@@matthiassheehan4630 you keep saying that in every comment when jay already confirmed they weren't
@@B_bang22 i guess you can call that pure determination or just correcting something that is still wrong even after you correct it
Having aim assist doesn't make controller equivalent to mouse and keyboard.
The guy in chat who said aim assist is literally cheating is completely brain-dead and has never played console before in his life.
Been waiting for this
Even tho I hate xbox players, the matchup wasnt exactly fair lol. Hopeful and Worth are both hella washed with a gm3 support player on their team. Other team has Akaza, the best tracer, and NRG whos currently rank 1. Coach also was rank 1 before i think, but yeah hella unbalanced. It was funny to see the usual xbox mental boom though lol
NRG on Sombra was GG, he was all over their asses
Im top500 on ps and ive been in a couple games with akaza and i can say first hand he is a demon 😂
im gonna need a playstation vs pc now
Bro the ps4 team has like the top 3 best players on the platform both nrg and Akaza have been rank 1 and dinks is like the best tracer
whats ur point exactly?
@@FateItself_ps4 had better players
@@NoahLevalwe could tell
@@FateItself_that it wasn’t very fair 💀 doesn’t take a genius to figure that out
@@J-gk2bo they are all gm+ how is that not fair?
Current on 0:15 but I’m guessing Xbox lose since Jay3 decided to randomly put a cursing hex of them lol
I belive that playstation has better players while Xbox has a higher amount of good players. But on the mentality side playstation players tend to stay more earth and using the anger of losing to play better; while Xbox players rage when they start to lose
bro this doesn't make any sense, it's just a different console, everyone it's still playing a game on a controller, it's not that deep
Mate the console you buy doesn’t change your personality ffs
Literally 5 nerds vs 5 chads
I peraonally feel like aside from headrammer, everyone else was ximming. They were getting flamed for being the only actual controller person there.
I don’t think worth xims, I’m not sure about everyone else
@@Chilled1805idk how xim works does it give no recoil + AA and you can still use controller unlike cronus
I got this impression too, though I'm not sure about everyone in the lobby.
Top console players are a small group so everyone has a good idea of who xims and who doesnt (i.e you can tell by their movement or literally hearing their keyboard in voice chat). Like idk everyone here but for example hcpeful and zero are known on controller
@@Htiy sorry i didnt know how to say it but i was like is there a different between cronus and xim
Love the way PlayStation was playing they were taking every fight EARLY
PlayStation gang Fr(i believe both console a good)
17:46 law accurate sombra 😅
And why is ps no blue 😂
Jay was rooting for Xbox since the start. It wasn’t for a competitive match, he just wanted Xbox to win. And he listened to their coms way more
I assume he grew up on it and have fond memories. I did as well, but now bias towards ps5 only because i own one and been playing it since i quit pc gaming. Honestly, ps5 gamers are better skill wise. And it showed.
You must’ve not watched the video
@@T3hS14ppy haha, this video showed nothing but that 5 random grandmasters on Overwatch are better
Not only that but it was supposed to be best of 3 until Xbox lost twice lmao
so what? he can't choose a team to cheer?
28:32 he basically called them out for yappin
To me it almost seems like everyone in this lobby is m+k or hard locking on people with aim assist throughout.
The xim epidemic is real.
Fr dude im the 2nd tank controller player in the t500 rn and im t16...
In eu console pools
Pretty sure he made it clear none of them are Ximming
Ximming is pretty common nowadays tho
@paulgeorge6223 it's obvious they are. Accurate Flicks like the ones basically everyone did aren't possible without m+k.
Only The Moria had your obviously typical, smooth, constant, controller-esque movement.
Rapid micro flicks, as shown by basically all the dps in this, are straight up not possible.
Controllers don't Flick. Every aim adjustment should look fluid, and constant compared to every other one. That's just not the case for a lot of these players.
The aim assistance is REALLY obvious, too. (Especially from sombra's pov)
Jay really trying to start the console wars again
Imma be honest i skipped through. And u should have checked if ppl are MnK and not give them a platform. NRG if u are reading this and u aren't MnK, im. Sorry but u look like hard like MnK. Other ppl too tho. Its sad How PC player underestimate that issue. Same with Kenzo when he did his 1v1 vs a "Console player" who clearly used MnK.
i know all of these console players cause i play with them in gm5 randomly their all ximmers except headrammer
@@NIGHTMAREONG i avoid playing on my main, simple bc of MnK players. So i just chill with friends in low elo and have fun. So i dont know a lot of high elo player.
@@NIGHTMAREONGi played in it, and i am controller for 6 years already. If u dont know what ur talking abt, then dont talk💀.
Nrg looked sus, maybe Akaza. Other than that they looked controlled, and Jay said he made sure none of them were ximming supposedly
@@NIGHTMAREONGand we all gm1, we not in ur gm5 lobbies:D
PlayStation Lucio gameplay was very attractive. I think both teams did well Xbox just got in their own head
Having both systems taught me something fundamental, and it showed in this gameplay: PS players bond over their love for gaming, and Xbox players bond over their hate for Sony.
i've seen ALOT more of ps players bonding over their hate of xbox tbh
@@skong-o3x I can agree in recent months, with Starfield otw, it’s definitely amped up a bit.
@@eriiicj.1558 idk how it is in other countries but here in Brazil almost nobody grew up with xbox so most people are from PS and they are 24/7 saying "OMG XBOX BAD GUYS XBOX IS SO BAD OMG XBOX BAD"
@@eriiicj.1558 literally ANY Playstation focused channels have atleast 3 videos a week saying bad things about xbox and especially indie games
@@skong-o3x understandable. It could just be my sample size. More people have PS, so maybe there are simply more examples of what I’ve seen and the proportions are similar across the board. I think console wars are silly, and we’d all benefit without exclusivity and the culture around which is best. But I also understand that Xbox desperately needs to be competitive in the market. Either way, the hate isn’t one-sided.
How did headrammer sneak into GM
Playstation its like apple, only reason why its popular is cause of the connections and bandwagons
Or it just has the better games?
@@kevinkalani those games will look better on xbox
@coastwardarc46 If y'all ever get them. Pretty sure God of War, The Last of Us, Spider Man etc. are still Sony exclusive...you know the games that are competing for game of the year. I don't care how good a game looks if the game itself is trash.
@@kevinkalani I'm fine with them being exclusive, I was saying they'll look better on the xbox and if we still got them, everyone will know where we got it from anyways so people are just going to clash on xbox for "needing the games"
Watching on my ps5 from the comfort of my couch, let's goooo!!
Jay this is why us PS players are the superiors
Because yall have more players?
@@coastwardarc46 naw cuz we’re just built diff
@@fudgie001 you right on that one because more players more variety
@@coastwardarc46 the controller is easier to hold making mechanics easier to do
@@fudgie001 thats crazy because I guess sim just used to both types of the controllers because the only difference is the joystick placement
Jay3 you almost redeemed yourself at 4:47, then you had to say it. From the Merciless Mercy's to the Lucio Mafia, you are in the deep end of hot water. This is the last time I'll say a big paragraph about this but, THEY ARE SUPPORTS, NOT HEALERS!
Its a joke
Not surprised. People who prefer PlayStation are usually a higher breed of intelligence than those who prefer Xbox
???
thats the cringiest thing ive seen bruh
@@oliviertrudel2384 found the Xbox user
At 26:48 it even looks like a headshot on .25x speed!
PS sucks all your console is good for is Spider-Man then you’re paying for games that are on gamepass
@jamesnicol4050 Stay mad you spent 500 to play single player only adventure games and gamepass stomps over everything you have🤡😂 Starfield in a couple of days what was the last great PS exclusive? More Spider-Man? Last of us? God of bore? 🥱 dead console
@@James_Nicolhe is actuelly mad becuase Xbox players lost to playstation players😂
after watching the second half: LETS GO PLAYSTATION!!!
PlayStation will always be better!!!!
No
lol both are just as toxic as communities so in my opinion neither are better