REVEALED: What caused Willemse to walk off SuperSport set

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • Sports Analyst Mduduzi Mfeka breaks it down for you.

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  • @JGraemeH
    @JGraemeH 6 років тому +38

    Ashwin Willemse was never a quota player. He was incredibly talented and sadly had his career cut short by injury. Your commentary is mumbled rubbish. Mallet never called him a quota player. Please - don't make up facts.

    • @mjribes
      @mjribes 3 роки тому +6

      Ashwin might not have been quota player but he was definitely a quota presenter.

    • @xanderbronkhorst902
      @xanderbronkhorst902 Рік тому +1

      @@mjribes and a kak player.

    • @Trajan2401
      @Trajan2401 Рік тому

      Only a quota player if you're a white supremecist dispite the fact some of the white players are very average

    • @xanderbronkhorst902
      @xanderbronkhorst902 Рік тому +1

      @@Trajan2401 Are you South African???

  • @xhioni
    @xhioni Рік тому +63

    He was a quota presenter. That’s what initiated this issue. He was so many levels below Nick and Nass in his preparation, knowledge, and ability to analyze and comment on games. This got to him and eventually resulted in his walking off set and using the race card as an excuse for poor performance.

    • @1ma4ighter
      @1ma4ighter Рік тому +3

      Yup, this is something I think he failed to realize. Nevermind Nick n Naas as players; they're both experience as rugby coaches whereas Ashwin is just a retired player and he failed to realize this himself. I bet some others were talking into his ears making his mind up for him though

    • @wilmanmitchell4410
      @wilmanmitchell4410 Рік тому

      I watch many white quotas and I hated watching rugby cause useless white played represented none whites .I was born in the 70s and played also .

    • @terencecarolus9277
      @terencecarolus9277 9 місяців тому

      stop talking stupid shit..its been going on a while..not that specific day .. idiot

    • @trininair1005
      @trininair1005 8 місяців тому

      Ashwins analysis was pretty good,formed part of a good team.
      Or so we thought

    • @nicojohnson8579
      @nicojohnson8579 8 місяців тому +2

      Nick en naas Domjan en slimjan waar is hulle world cup medals

  • @kdc-nb5fw
    @kdc-nb5fw 10 місяців тому +12

    During the games in studio Naas and Nick would sit watching the game, discussing each moment and putting together clips for their commentary. Ashwin didn't do that. He went to eat or chatted or did other things. There was never any racism from any of them. They were too busy WORKING. Ashwin walked out because he was not prepared, as usual, and he was embarrassed, so he blamed racism. If one guy in an office doesn't do his part of the work, the others will slowly push him aside and work together to get things done. It had nothing to do with race, but rather with incompetence and laziness.

    • @garionjonathan8096
      @garionjonathan8096 8 місяців тому +2

      How do you even know this? You were probably there?

  • @fido5067
    @fido5067 Рік тому +10

    He was good in the 03 world cup, got injured then was effectively a quota player.

    • @menzimngadi6793
      @menzimngadi6793 9 місяців тому

      Before his injury he was the best wing in the country. The injury cost him his speed and he was never the same

  • @Giga_squirrel178
    @Giga_squirrel178 10 місяців тому +4

    Willemse issue is much deeper then we think

  • @markwinter7511
    @markwinter7511 Рік тому +16

    Mallet never called him a quota player. You're wrong. A very thorough investigation failed to find ANYTHING against
    Mallet or Botha or ANY other person.

    • @real_bakerman
      @real_bakerman 11 місяців тому

      you sound like a white person

  • @NommerDonzwaaa
    @NommerDonzwaaa 2 роки тому +11

    A lot of white South Africans showing their true colours in this comment section

  • @Giga_squirrel178
    @Giga_squirrel178 10 місяців тому +2

    Funny when its black or colourd then its Quota but white no problm no name calling. As South Africans we need to stop this.

    • @michaelbekker1204
      @michaelbekker1204 8 місяців тому +1

      Well done! That's the very definition of "quota"... it's right there in the name....that's the point I'm making, with a quota system you can never say you were good enough, which hurts players of colour. PS, I can't stand Willie Le Roux, he should never have played in either World Cup. 2019 or 2023. He's a cheerleader at best. I'm vocal in my opposition to Willie too..

  • @fredperry523
    @fredperry523 Рік тому +12

    Aswin was lazy & entitled - he was in the Springbok team on merit but is an example of everything that is wrong with SA. It's called chip on the shoulder syndrome - too many in this country suffer from it - he forgot how to roll up his sleeves.

    • @brittney701
      @brittney701 11 місяців тому +2

      It was based on merit whatever but he was told he was quota player even after everything he did and what he accomplished. That's what's getting him and now for them to tell him he's a quota presenter after everything. These things are personal and you can try to seperate sport from our past but that's not our reality yet. Lazy and entitled is probably the most ridiculous thing to call someone with a past like Ashwin's.

    • @fredperry523
      @fredperry523 11 місяців тому

      @@brittney701 Lazy and entitled ! Read em and weep!

    • @stumbo_3230
      @stumbo_3230 3 місяці тому

      We will see who is lazy and entitled when the EFF wins the elections in the future. Jy sal Australia toe fokoff my boeta

  • @lukiecarelsen3305
    @lukiecarelsen3305 3 роки тому +7

    I suggest that you stop smoking whatever you are smoking.
    You clearly are under some kind of influence.
    Go and sleep it off, perhaps it will help!

  • @stephenmaher8527
    @stephenmaher8527 Рік тому +2

    they need quota system for white players in South African soccer

  • @williamthompson9393
    @williamthompson9393 6 років тому +17

    stop talking nonsense nobody called him a quota player

  • @aquahabitatsaquahabitats1708
    @aquahabitatsaquahabitats1708 3 роки тому +6

    The whole quota system is rubbish. Let the best guys make the team.

    • @cmctwinz2539
      @cmctwinz2539 Рік тому +2

      Well sometimes the best guy is a black guy but the white guy will still play because he is white. The quota system is super necessary

    • @cbachinger
      @cbachinger 3 місяці тому

      Quotas are gone. Half the team is non white and 1/3 is ethnic black. And rassie over the past 8 years, never showed any prejudice. If you were good enough, you were in. So - stop - your - bitching.

    • @thegreytone
      @thegreytone 3 місяці тому

      ​@@cbachinger players like Libbok are called a quota player by white South Africans whenever there's an article being dropped of him on FB.

  • @joelfrancis8709
    @joelfrancis8709 5 років тому +14

    It's funny how this video has more dislikes than likes

  • @tjsteenekamp6588
    @tjsteenekamp6588 Рік тому +3

    I once saw an Indian boy play rugby in Matatiele. He was the only only one ever...

    • @1ma4ighter
      @1ma4ighter Рік тому

      And that's what happens when you can't spell "cricket" properly

  • @Trajan2401
    @Trajan2401 Рік тому +3

    I notice the white SA seem to rubbish the black players as just quota players yet very rarely go on about some of their average white players SA would be nothing without the blacks or coloured they're their best players Am,Kolbe etc.Whites saying quota players is basically like saying you don't like blacks but don't have the balls to come out with it directly

    • @diogeneslantern18
      @diogeneslantern18 Рік тому

      Hardly anyone uses the expression "quota player" anymore.

  • @gerhardburger6777
    @gerhardburger6777 Рік тому +1

    Why is it that only black people call it racism but the rest carry on?

  • @michaelbekker1204
    @michaelbekker1204 Рік тому +5

    I've been saying what I've been saying for years, and this is where it played out before our eyes... "The quota system will continue to call into question whether ANY and EVERY player of colour deserves their position in a team or not".. until every player is chosen on merit and there is NO QUOTA SYSTEM, because until then no player of colour will ever feel that he 100% deserves his position and the sport fraternity will always have their favourite player in that position who they feel should have got the nod ahead of the POC. And whether their perception is right or wrong, the quota system will ALWAYS do more damage to the POC who is selected than it does to promote and equalize the playing field. That is evidenced by the Ashwin incident. I feel desperately sorry for these players because we have many POCs that deserve every cap they get, but while the quota system is in place, the doubt will ALWAYS exist and be in the back of everyone's mind. It's very sad, but it is in my opinion NOT a good strategy at university, franchise and national level. We've had 29 years to get it right at grass-roots level and we would now have been enjoying the fruits of that strategy, but it's been a dismal failure and the administrators of SARU are directly to blame.

    • @alastairaspara4554
      @alastairaspara4554 8 місяців тому +1

      Imagine someone like Rudolf Straeuli with no quota system. Imagine Brain Habana without a Chester Williams. White people especially like moving the goal post when it come to these conversations. In 1992 Uli Schmidt confidently said that blacks people cant play rugby - this dude was not only a rugby player but an educated medical doctor and. Leader at the Blue Bulls academy. This is one example of many reasons why quota are needed to jump start transformation.

    • @michaelbekker1204
      @michaelbekker1204 8 місяців тому

      @@alastairaspara4554 Correct, but at grass roots level, and you've had 30x years to get it right so that we don't need it at Provincial or National level and can confidently say all players are there on merit. Until then, my point carries and has no reasonable counter argument. Just facts. White people don't move the goal posts, the goal is everyone has an equal opportunity to be selected on merit. So tilt the scales in favour of POC at schools and the rest will take care of itself. Anything else will never achieve the goals.

  • @markbrown-sb2zm
    @markbrown-sb2zm Рік тому +3

    He was a good player but a quota presenter.
    What he always did was talk last and all he did every game was repeat exactly what Nick said.
    He had no opinions of his own and bought nothing original to the show.
    He undermined himself.

  • @martinfurman7127
    @martinfurman7127 10 місяців тому +1

    Storm in a tea cup.

  • @eugenesigauke6525
    @eugenesigauke6525 2 роки тому +3

    Why is the background music from a horror movie

  • @mosesihemegbulem4061
    @mosesihemegbulem4061 Рік тому +1

    Supersport investigated this story Willemse was wrong point out where mallet undermined him

  • @glennbotes8937
    @glennbotes8937 9 місяців тому

    Willimse had one good year in 2003. After that he didn't deserve to be in the bok set-up again. He got injured in 2004 and never got back to his 03 level. The mere fact that he went to the 2007 world cup instead of a merit based player was purely political.

  • @markoconnor959
    @markoconnor959 Рік тому +3

    We don’t know the facts of the case. I will say that this man speaking here spoke very well. Well done. This man represents the future of our country and I am prepared to walk the road in my country to enjoy a population of people like this.

  • @guydutoit61
    @guydutoit61 4 роки тому +9

    I don’t think you have a clue what you’re talking about

  • @kaylumhendrickse4644
    @kaylumhendrickse4644 3 роки тому +8

    I salute Ashwin Willemse, from being a teenage Gangster to becoming a SPRINGBOK , takes a certain level of mental toughness to get out of the so called “coloured” Ghettos , we don’t get handouts nor do we want any. Respect brother, You are a Springbok and no one can take that away!!

  • @fohunter12345
    @fohunter12345 2 роки тому +3

    Ashwin Willemse wasn't prepped for the show and was exposed so he played the race card.

    • @wilmanmitchell4410
      @wilmanmitchell4410 Рік тому

      Stop smelling your shit caused your starting to talk it . I've Watch all their shows and every show Nick would talk over Willemse or Naas would make sarcastic comments and Nick will laugh or vers visa . I stop watching their show cause of that disrespect .

  • @johanolwage213
    @johanolwage213 8 місяців тому

    This man is rambling on. Bull dust.

  • @charlesvanonselen6251
    @charlesvanonselen6251 Рік тому +7

    My personal view is that Ashwin Willemse was a great player but the "quota player" label clearly irked him. He was however a very poor presenter as from my understanding, he did very little prep work prior to coming on air and I had heard rumours that the other presenters often had to do his prep work for him and they got tired of doing so. Naas Botha and Nick Mallet not only played at the highest level but Nick Mallet even coached the Boks! How many teams did Ashwin coach at the highest level? The Answer is none. He got caught out and played the Race card to bail him out of his shortcomings in Presenting. Race card is too easy to play against White people but is never considered against people of other races. Sad ending to this saga!

    • @merlin5420
      @merlin5420 Рік тому

      Race card is too ‘easy’ to play against white people and not other races, simply because there has only been one race that has fcuked over all other races in that country for few centuries now Einstein.
      That response is more of a cop out or smoke screen and denial …justification by subsequent descendants of the white colonisers

    • @viwemjiwu772
      @viwemjiwu772 10 місяців тому

      And Naas was a great analyst 😂😂😂...

  • @guywiththepixelatedface1260
    @guywiththepixelatedface1260 2 місяці тому

    I'm against quotas, on principle.... But let's not bullshit each other.... Every single rugby player, pre-94, was a quota player. The quota was simply, be 100% white. We did have our exceptions, Errol Tobias comes to mind. But for Mallet to take jibes, like really? WMU, etc.... WEE was a real thing, hence the WMU etc. Come on.... We can't learn from the past if we can't even acknowledge it.

  • @Q-Mashela
    @Q-Mashela Рік тому

    Just wondering if you haven't experienced any racism in any form whether mild or hash at this stage since this video?

  • @woelag027
    @woelag027 2 місяці тому

    He was a stupid mistake ,never had coaching knowledge and felt inferior to the other two presenters.Then proceeded with the race card trick ,this normally works .

  • @mosreloaded
    @mosreloaded Рік тому

    You only a quota player if you believe you are. In todays world its so difficult to work or live with people who believes they victim's. Ashwin never was for me..until that day. Today he is not a springbok for me anymore.

  • @kevindbn007
    @kevindbn007 6 років тому +7

    I hear his plight, however, being the professional person that he is, he abused the privilege afforded to him, privelege meaning the opportunity to present on super sport which is a public platform, to voice his point. What ever the discrepancy, you have to remember you are on a public platform, he clearly took advantage of it! He should have used tact and wisdom to handle a sensitive issue like this on a closed hearing session. Sad he abused the privilege afforded to him. JMO

    • @carterpaul2688
      @carterpaul2688 3 роки тому +2

      no he’s a hero. it takes courage to stand up to the system.

    • @myvisionataglance
      @myvisionataglance 2 роки тому +2

      Basically you are saying he shouldve protected them and swept it under the carpet so that noone knows about it. How typical

    • @Tumi_Pheko
      @Tumi_Pheko 2 роки тому +3

      It's equally unprofessional and the abuse of the privilege to publicly ridicule your colleague. I applaud Ash for standing his ground.

  • @1ma4ighter
    @1ma4ighter Рік тому +1

    I'm just gonna say this now as a coloured guy, also a follower of south african bodybuilding and martial arts: huge white guys and black guys are the strongest in our country: so black n white forwards mostly will be a team built on merit; now although we have had white sprinters in the country, those who've had the best success are people of colour. Then we have to factor in how certain positions are played also: the white guys kick the best most of the time; you have to have an agile, strategic flyhalf come on now. . . the other positions? Meh
    And then scrum half is a very specific set of skills you have to have as well.
    So a team on merit. . . . could be exactly like what we had in Japan

  • @gerhardburger6777
    @gerhardburger6777 Рік тому +1

    He was a quota player? You can not get past this fact that SA is enforcing in sports.

  • @waywoo25
    @waywoo25 2 роки тому +2

    I understand the quota system. The truth is we would never have had so many amazing black players playing for the boks if it was not mandatory. We have always had so much black talent but the powers that be have been forced to find and use that talent because of the quota system. If it wasn't for quotas the team would have been mostly white from affluent rugby schools. On the other hand when do we stop the whole quota system? When has it served it's purpose?

  • @johnnybravo1912
    @johnnybravo1912 Рік тому +1

    The ANC called him and other BLACK players quota players..

  • @henkstols9326
    @henkstols9326 9 місяців тому

    And here I thought the EFF could make up kak, this guy is just repeating the same lines and they have background music that tries to make it interesting. Ashwin was the weakest link in studio and played his only card when put on the spot, should be a great politician. Case didn't even materialise against Nick and Naas, and these cases normally are decided by the public beforehand in favour of the so called racist victim.

    • @stumbo_3230
      @stumbo_3230 3 місяці тому

      EFF is giving you chest pains

  • @wezvandez
    @wezvandez Рік тому

    He pulls out the race card when he gets found out for being a kak presenter who was hardly prepared.

  • @BIGREDVIGILANTE
    @BIGREDVIGILANTE 3 роки тому +1

    Oh please. Do you want some tissues for your issues?

  • @johanneshechter3761
    @johanneshechter3761 6 років тому +1

    I am not racist but wish people will stop breaking into my house cos that deffo has a negative affect on my outlook.

  • @Capt_RedruM
    @Capt_RedruM 11 місяців тому

    Poor baby

  • @frankvendetta9230
    @frankvendetta9230 3 роки тому +3

    A very complicated situation. As far as Ash is concerned, I think I can understand his frustration as this is something that must have brewed inside of him for a very long time. Eventually, it boiled over in an unfortunate setting. As for Naas and Nick, I say with all due respect very subtle remarks can hurt big time, no matter how innocent it may be to you as an individual. Remarks should not be made at all in that setup. I always maintain there are nice ways and not-so-nice ways to say things if you do not agree with the other party. Naas and Nick might have innocently expressed their views less sensitive but for Ash unfortunately it was the last straw. As an example:" You do not know what you are talking about" Why not rather say " I hear you but must disagree because.......'

  • @ayannag4760
    @ayannag4760 6 років тому +4

    Good for him, you have to say when enough is enough.

    • @guydutoit61
      @guydutoit61 3 роки тому +1

      Enough is enough, like winning a World Cup with a black captain and a work system ? Yeah ... you look like a fool now.

  • @ay613
    @ay613 4 роки тому

    Hi there, May i ask where do u think u will go when u die u dont have to answer if u dont want to?

  • @gregorynolan3803
    @gregorynolan3803 Рік тому

    Good analysis Pule!

  • @andreshaw9410
    @andreshaw9410 6 років тому +3

    He showed everyone the chip on his shoulder.No proof of rassism found,after the internal investigation. Bla Bla Bla Bla 😣😭😢

  • @141Jamison
    @141Jamison 5 років тому

    I personally think the whole Quota needs to be abolished, it only undermines people of color, because whats happening now is when a player of color gets into the team most people probably have a slight inclination that his there because his black. I feel the big underlying problem is If i had to put myself in the shoes of a player of color, Id also beg the question, im i here because im good or because im black, creating self doubt, Or that you know you good at what you do but you realize that many people wont take you seriously because of the quota system. It really is such a stupid concept to have a quota in the first place, its not just as easy as black and white these things take a psychological toll as well. It really needs to go, its only creating issues where there were none. Now it's only creating animosity.

    • @MrBigcharl
      @MrBigcharl Рік тому

      Interesting. What fact did you use for this video? You did not mention any of the facts of what actually happened on the day! The real truth has come out, and the fact that he is no longer on suppersport shows who was actually wrong. But nice, racially motivated rant. What a clown

  • @williamthompson9393
    @williamthompson9393 6 років тому +1

    Fake news

  • @cheslynwilliams2243
    @cheslynwilliams2243 Рік тому

    Wow ashswin really handled this very good. He did it in such a respectfull mannar. Nick malat and naas should suffer the same faith that tarblach got.

    • @chrisschroder3812
      @chrisschroder3812 Рік тому +2

      Cheslyn... spelling and grammar mate, proof read before posting

    • @1ma4ighter
      @1ma4ighter Рік тому +1

      Who's tarblach? The same faith?!!

  • @cedarwilson9794
    @cedarwilson9794 6 років тому +1

    ashwin made a call an i take my hat off to him,could of done it off air,u could see he had enough,very calm cool,did this to gr8t naas Botha an ex sa coach,well done ,nz supports sa ..Get rid of quota system ,dnt let politics pick sports teams,own merits,talents,SA baby steps,leave the past, bad move on ,future ,kids creating tries against abz

  • @alisonbudler7643
    @alisonbudler7643 Рік тому

    You are talking nonsense. Mallet never called Willemse a quote player

  • @carterpaul2688
    @carterpaul2688 3 роки тому +1

    God bless you Ashwin

  • @daleengelbrecht2190
    @daleengelbrecht2190 6 років тому +3

    Who's being racist now. Get a life

  • @francoisvandermerwe2709
    @francoisvandermerwe2709 Рік тому

    Willemse was a kak Commen Tator

  • @gerhardolivier5293
    @gerhardolivier5293 Рік тому

    You do not know what you are talking about

  • @sorayavanderschyff937
    @sorayavanderschyff937 6 років тому +2

    Ashwin is a boss! I respect him for this! He did this in style, no vulgarity or violence and with decorum! Proud moments

  • @kabousrussouw7964
    @kabousrussouw7964 6 років тому +1

    jy was nie daar nie jy praat kak jy gaan op hoor se jy was nie daar nie

  • @DylanJamneck
    @DylanJamneck 3 місяці тому

    Lol.

  • @michaellilienfeld4137
    @michaellilienfeld4137 3 роки тому

    Buy bitcoin

  • @simonmarcus5331
    @simonmarcus5331 2 роки тому

    Lair

  • @chrisschroder3812
    @chrisschroder3812 Рік тому

    Either way, terribly unproffesional, time and a place to address these things

  • @MrKayo7
    @MrKayo7 4 роки тому +1

    Its 2020 can we have justice for Willemse ! #cancelculture

  • @geewhiz2582
    @geewhiz2582 6 років тому

    Aaaaaggggggg

  • @georgefrederikoosthuizen891

    He wants to forced him into things he isnt...i said long before on super rugby he is a racist....u made to much rasism which is not there.......if any off them told him he was a quota player they are correct...he was....

  • @tinyvanjaarsveld8740
    @tinyvanjaarsveld8740 Рік тому

    He is useless he was never a good player