girl i COMPLETELY agree!! i was beginning to feel like i was reading a completely different book than everyone else! there was absolutely NO cheated and nothing happened in the joining lolll
Cheating came when Kieran was giving poppy forehead kisses (what Cas does). She was wearing one of his shirts while sleeping next to him being naked. Kieran also gave her a sex memory to arouse her when feeding from someone is already an intimate thing.
@@elainamcclendon5593 your taking what was in the book and turning it into something that it’s NOT. the love that they all three hav for each other isn’t even explainable in our world but the way jla set the three of them up was to be this unbreakable bond. and MULTIPLE times it was mentioned their emotions towards each other. cas + poppy are heartmates there is nothing that can come in between that kieran is BONDED to them so of course she is going to feel the SAME way cas feels for him.
i agree with everything you said!!! (minus the "there was no s*x had during the joining" ... i mean maybe we interpreted the scene differently, but i definitely read some s*x...) anyways, i absolutely HATE the negativity surrounding this book. it is so undeserved. although the first half was super slow (and boring) i understand it was relevant to set up how Poppy will act as Queen. i am so excited for the 2nd book in the flesh and fire series and ofc the next book in the blood and ash series!!!! i will stan JLA til the day i die!
I agree with everything you said. I loved this book and feel so bad for the author. If you don’t like the book, that’s fine. But to trash it as much as people are without even bothering to finish it, well that’s not fair. I thought the relationships were done well between our main characters. I did have some issues with the book, but no book is going to be perfect. Your take is so refreshing to hear and I agree 💯
For me the joining does not bother me. Hell if it becomes a polyamorous relationship I have no problem. On the contrary I have a different problem with the series from book 3 going downwards. I feel like poppy became a Mary sue character. Casteel’s character arc became stagnant as his life revolved only around poppy! Don’t get me wrong, I love when the male main character is smitten with the FMC; however, this should not turn the male character into something that exists just for the MFC. With that said, Casteel’s and poppy’s relationship no longer interest me. I found myself skimming through their love scenes. I will continue with the series bc I love the world building eventhough there was a lot of info dump at the end of this book.
Ok nice to meet you Ashley I just bumped into your channel and I have things to say and I wish you would just hear me out😊👋 Ok I love the series from blood and Ash and I loved the series like the first book of the series like flesh and Fire shadow in the Ember I couldn't think about anything else but the next book because it was coming out. the War of Two Queens and when it came out I immediately got it and read it and I'm not even complaining about the half of the book that was slow like some people said it wasn't for me I like that I mean I loved JLA so much that I was ok with that it was like ok its fine BUT I have some personal opinions that is going is to sound hateful but actually isn't I'm just( it's like Game of Thrones like I was furious how it ended in the series )like Furious like pissed of about this book as well it has nothing to do with the fan club book club or hating on the author or like crashing the book it's not about that. Ok first off there was sex in a threesome and it was a threesome because she said that there were in her but not at the same time but multiple times after one another anyways and I was ok with the threesome I just wish it was more dirtyer or sexier like I wanted to go all out I mean it was mentioned two books before so we were waiting for the joining it's not like she just happens to put it in the book I have no where she mentioned it to books before and when I was reading and I was like in the edge of my seat but when it came to it was blah. When the joining happened there was feeling between Kieran and Poppy which I didn't even realise it until Towny said that why is he acting like your husband and I was like what!!!!!! also when she was feeding from kiaren and the whole showing her that he watched them as well when she was watching them when someone was giving a head to him after that i realized Kiaren has some of emotional and sexual or like poppy said closness towards puppy and it wasn't just like teasing and making it less awkward for your friend who needs to feed. also When they rescue cas when Kieran was leaving them be alone she was saying I don't want him to leave and it was wrong to let him leave like what is going on you have your heart mate in your arms why do you need Karen and when Kieran got the curse poppy and kiaren they were talking like what kind of love you have for me and she was like I don't feel like friendship towards him like for delano and netta it's like ...more. Okay now my Theory is if you are the wolf that is going to be bonded to them I don't think that those feelings would be towards them like I'm going to go with Alistair I'm sure Alistair didn't have this kind of Bond between Malek and Iloena when he was boded to them and they weren't even a heart mates but they didn't have the joining ok it's totally different you know what because cas and Poppy where heart mates if you are heart mates in my opinion which I gathered in the book you cannot have feelings for anyone else besides your heart mate so I think people are mad about that because they want to Poppy and cas to be each others and I know that JLA loves infodumping like by the 4th book we were still learning new things like you can walk on your heart mates dreams I think the next book is going to be like actually because heart mates can not share eachother. I mean it's just I am so confused and so sad and so feurious and pissed off because they were saying that Cass and Kieran are the half of a whole and poppy feels the same for both of them but it's not the same as cas as she does for Kieran ok it's going to be a three person relationship or poly which I'm not judging I just didn't want them to be like this ok I want them to belong to each other and I'm talking about Poppy and cas ok not Kieran i wanted kiaren to have his own love interest ok like fully in love with somebody and by somebody I meant Towny which I ship them but apparently dosen't going to work out . But if it turns out like poorly and three person relationship and not reading a book but if it doesn't I'm still going to continue at which I'm not sure how it's gonna break our because always say it's going to turn off three letter and three person relationship
girl i COMPLETELY agree!! i was beginning to feel like i was reading a completely different book than everyone else! there was absolutely NO cheated and nothing happened in the joining lolll
Cheating came when Kieran was giving poppy forehead kisses (what Cas does). She was wearing one of his shirts while sleeping next to him being naked. Kieran also gave her a sex memory to arouse her when feeding from someone is already an intimate thing.
@@elainamcclendon5593 your taking what was in the book and turning it into something that it’s NOT. the love that they all three hav for each other isn’t even explainable in our world but the way jla set the three of them up was to be this unbreakable bond. and MULTIPLE times it was mentioned their emotions towards each other. cas + poppy are heartmates there is nothing that can come in between that kieran is BONDED to them so of course she is going to feel the SAME way cas feels for him.
@@demi5817 that’s understandable, but Kieran was very questionable in this book to me. He did questionable things and crossed the line several times.
@@demi5817 what you mentioned does not justify his actions in this book. Tell me something I do not know.
@@elainamcclendon5593 agreed like 100%
i agree with everything you said!!! (minus the "there was no s*x had during the joining" ... i mean maybe we interpreted the scene differently, but i definitely read some s*x...) anyways, i absolutely HATE the negativity surrounding this book. it is so undeserved. although the first half was super slow (and boring) i understand it was relevant to set up how Poppy will act as Queen. i am so excited for the 2nd book in the flesh and fire series and ofc the next book in the blood and ash series!!!! i will stan JLA til the day i die!
4:11 PREAAACCCHHH
5:44 same
I just needed to rant😂
I agree with everything you said. I loved this book and feel so bad for the author. If you don’t like the book, that’s fine. But to trash it as much as people are without even bothering to finish it, well that’s not fair. I thought the relationships were done well between our main characters. I did have some issues with the book, but no book is going to be perfect. Your take is so refreshing to hear and I agree 💯
For me the joining does not bother me. Hell if it becomes a polyamorous relationship I have no problem. On the contrary I have a different problem with the series from book 3 going downwards. I feel like poppy became a Mary sue character. Casteel’s character arc became stagnant as his life revolved only around poppy! Don’t get me wrong, I love when the male main character is smitten with the FMC; however, this should not turn the male character into something that exists just for the MFC. With that said, Casteel’s and poppy’s relationship no longer interest me. I found myself skimming through their love scenes. I will continue with the series bc I love the world building eventhough there was a lot of info dump at the end of this book.
Ok nice to meet you Ashley I just bumped into your channel and I have things to say and I wish you would just hear me out😊👋
Ok I love the series from blood and Ash and I loved the series like the first book of the series like flesh and Fire shadow in the Ember I couldn't think about anything else but the next book because it was coming out. the War of Two Queens and when it came out I immediately got it and read it and I'm not even complaining about the half of the book that was slow like some people said it wasn't for me I like that I mean I loved JLA so much that I was ok with that it was like ok its fine
BUT
I have some personal opinions that is going is to sound hateful but actually isn't I'm just( it's like Game of Thrones like I was furious how it ended in the series )like Furious like pissed of about this book as well it has nothing to do with the fan club book club or hating on the author or like crashing the book it's not about that.
Ok first off there was sex in a threesome and it was a threesome because she said that there were in her but not at the same time but multiple times after one another anyways and I was ok with the threesome I just wish it was more dirtyer or sexier like I wanted to go all out I mean it was mentioned two books before so we were waiting for the joining it's not like she just happens to put it in the book I have no where she mentioned it to books before and when I was reading and I was like in the edge of my seat but when it came to it was blah.
When the joining happened there was feeling between Kieran and Poppy which I didn't even realise it until Towny said that why is he acting like your husband and I was like what!!!!!!
also when she was feeding from kiaren and the whole showing her that he watched them as well when she was watching them when someone was giving a head to him after that i realized Kiaren has some of emotional and sexual or like poppy said closness towards puppy and it wasn't just like teasing and making it less awkward for your friend who needs to feed.
also When they rescue cas when Kieran was leaving them be alone she was saying I don't want him to leave and it was wrong to let him leave like what is going on you have your heart mate in your arms why do you need Karen and when Kieran got the curse poppy and kiaren they were talking like what kind of love you have for me and she was like I don't feel like friendship towards him like for delano and netta it's like ...more.
Okay now my Theory is if you are the wolf that is going to be bonded to them I don't think that those feelings would be towards them like I'm going to go with Alistair I'm sure Alistair didn't have this kind of Bond between Malek and Iloena when he was boded to them and they weren't even a heart mates but they didn't have the joining ok it's totally different you know what because cas and Poppy where heart mates if you are heart mates in my opinion which I gathered in the book you cannot have feelings for anyone else besides your heart mate so I think people are mad about that because they want to Poppy and cas to be each others
and I know that JLA loves infodumping like by the 4th book we were still learning new things like you can walk on your heart mates dreams I think the next book is going to be like actually because heart mates can not share eachother.
I mean it's just I am so confused and so sad and so feurious and pissed off because they were saying that Cass and Kieran are the half of a whole and poppy feels the same for both of them but it's not the same as cas as she does for Kieran ok it's going to be a three person relationship or poly which I'm not judging I just didn't want them to be like this ok I want them to belong to each other and I'm talking about Poppy and cas ok not Kieran i wanted kiaren to have his own love interest ok like fully in love with somebody and by somebody I meant Towny which I ship them but apparently dosen't going to work out .
But if it turns out like poorly and three person relationship and not reading a book but if it doesn't I'm still going to continue at which I'm not sure how it's gonna break our because always say it's going to turn off three letter and three person relationship
Sounds like the parabati from ShadowHunters to me
I haven’t read that series yet! But I’ll have to get to it someday!
@@archivesofashley tbh I haven't either I just watched a few episodes of the TV show
I love your opinion on this
Thank u!
@@archivesofashley I'm really wanting these books I'm trying to save to get the ebooks
good book
YESSSS lmao i love this😂❤️🔥