As someone who plays mig-29 basically exclusively... 100% this. I don't even bother looking at the F-4e/f-4s's until all the tomcats, f16s and mig-29s on the other team are dead.
@@_Joobuna pregunta porqué mí radar cuando fijo a un avión y el tira bengalas el radar y el misil se dirigen a las bengalas supongo que debería seguir fijando a el avión porque vi el video y cuando tiran bengalas el radar no lo sigue
The amount of killstealing that happened against me when playing that plane was astonishing. We are talking spamming aim9Ls at a flatspinned enemy with both engines on fire
I love this plane, a few minutes ago I got a 5 kill match where I was rtb after 2 kills but enemy kept showing up behind my and I always turned arround and slapped them with the dogfight sparrows
0:40 yo pro tip for ya: as you are closing in on that mig 21, on your radar display there will be 3 lines showing to the right those are range indicators (both ir and sarh missiles show it). you know that you are in range, by having the one longer line in between two shorter ones. i've learned it cause of sim x) if the longer line is above shorter ones, its out of range, but possible it will hit under some circumstances. if its below both lines, then its still has really good chance to hit. when you see 1 short line and 1 longer line, it either means: you are really out of range (so out of range that 2 lines are collapsing onto each other) you see the bottom short range, and it means that you are in range, the max range line is out of radar display.
This. I recommend firing missiles at 2/3 or less of their max range so they dont just fall out of the sky as ive had that happen where it just slipped under a target by inches. Also id recommend climbing in a downtier in the f4e or mig23m since you can avoid the cluster fights and clear any high alt threats with ease
Close range head on radar missiles work great I use the 7Fs with the F-4s and have gotten kills with them under 2-3k feet in head on but works similarly with 7Es
The internet situation sounds like there was a node or something that your isp had go out and replace with a new one,. It would explain the 3 day outage(about how long it takes for techs to replace one of those things), and it could also explain the drastically improved performance when it came back. I used to work tech support at Cox, so usually a 3 day outage is something serious they have to go fix. You can also call and get credit for the days it was out, but they don't typically credit that automatically, so you have to explicitly ask for it. Depending on how much your bill is, 3 days may not be worth the time, but if people had cable and internet, a 3 day outage would be like $25+.
@Joob So, in my experience(3.5yrs in tech support), as a tier 1 agent then Tier 2, you can only see an outage if there are enough calls from a specific area calling within a certain time frame(it's a formula based on the amount of subscribers on a node, etc). So if you don't call at the right time, they won't see it. If that ratio isn't met, then the agent won't have a clue that anything is wrong, and they will just go into normal troubleshooting like asking you to unplug your modem, etc, as if you havent already tried that. There are a ton of elderly people who call and haven't done that, its mind-boggling. When I first started at cox, agents like myself had access to a link that could show you if a specific address was in an outage and specifically what the problem was, and even which field agent was assigned to it. They removed that access about 1yr into my tenure because most tier 1 agents are more customer service/sales and have a tenuous grasp on how the internet works at best, so that info was worthless for 80%+. For some weird reason, I could still access it and NEVER told anyone about it, so I could see stuff most tech support agents couldn't. As the tech support role became more automated and scripted, I could see the procedures and how that differs from what actually is happening. I hope the internet stays up and running good for you though, but if it starts going bad again, I'd start thinking it's weather related(water gets into a line fitting from a storm, and it takes a few days to dry out, sort of thing). Moral of the story: most tier 1 agents can't see shit, by design, so don't take what they say as fact, because it's just corporate speak to save face and placate ignorant customers. I assume something bigger was wrong, and they actually assigned a tech behind the scenes to fix the problem and just won't admit it.
Also, we used in-house techs, and contractors. The left hand does NOT know what the right is doing, so the in-house maintenance techs fixed the outage, and the contracted tech they most likely sent wasn't required anymore, so no point in sending him any longer lol.
I just can't get that matchmaker luck with the J-7E sadly. Mig-27 and Mig-21 Bis on the other hand are being real joyrides. I need to get this Phantom to see if that pattern holds...
@@Independent118 That's relative. Some people are getting almost 100% downtiers on the J-7E and I haven't got a single one. There's more to WT's matchmaker than they let out.
Idk what changed in the matchmaker, but now I got this plane and I get full upteir to 12.0 90% of the time and it’s torture. Just can’t compete with the F-16A and MiG-29
the f4e is that kind of plane that can spank a mig21 in a dogfight and joust properly vs viggens and other stuff but will most likely get 100 matches in a row where it dies to an unnotchable f-16 or crashes while futilely avoiding enemy radar.
It is a mystery to me how the F-4E has around 1000kgf more thrust per engine then the MIG-29 and yet it somehow performs so much worse. I guess it's just that much heavier.
"Got the crit on him though. But he seems to be fine" has been every fucking match I've played as the A-10 recently. Nothing but crits, some insta kills but its like a 70% chance crit and nothing fucking happens. Even had a kill stolen after i died, the guy i crit ran out of fuel after being on fire from my fucking 30mm cannon. Got no assist.
I used the my F4E to research the F16 and as long as you had aimj and aim7m's and you played smart you could get about 3 kills per game but in a down tier you can bomb 2-3 bases and get like 5-8 kills in my experience (8 only if I was super lucky in dogfights)
F-4e has too much performance to face 9.7s, and the armament is brutal, it's just that from 11.0 to 11.7 the performance and armament gap is just humongous
It’s great in a downtier, but gets slaughtered in an uptier, which is what you see most of the time
Also bombing isnt even viable option to spade it since you get intercepted way before you can even get to bases
@@diprosla592 what!? Just go to the edge of the map, fly around and you will always get the bases
@@Crash_Bang1065 yeah but an f4s will probably have made it there by then
As someone who plays mig-29 basically exclusively... 100% this. I don't even bother looking at the F-4e/f-4s's until all the tomcats, f16s and mig-29s on the other team are dead.
I just expect uptiers every round in every plane
Be honest, everyone is happy when joob uploads, love the content dude, keep it up.
@@_Joob I was the mig 21 in the last match
@@_Joobuna pregunta porqué mí radar cuando fijo a un avión y el tira bengalas el radar y el misil se dirigen a las bengalas supongo que debería seguir fijando a el avión porque vi el video y cuando tiran bengalas el radar no lo sigue
I have over 1000 battles in this beast. I miss the old days when the F4E was top-dog. Kudos to you Joob for showing how good can be🤘
8 decent missiles is always a nice thing to have.
The amount of killstealing that happened against me when playing that plane was astonishing. We are talking spamming aim9Ls at a flatspinned enemy with both engines on fire
This is the biggest reason of why I’m so happy they buffed guns again.
1:33 “I hear a missi-“
Joob 500B.C - 2023
You can check me on that
birthday
Love your vid's man. Currently grinding with the F4E. And your outro is just a 10/10 banger!
The thing about this plane that I hate, is that I NEVER get a downier. Only 12.0 games. Never touching this plane again until they change BRs somehow.
I rlly do enjoy ur content and I rlly like it more when it seems you actually are enjoying the game 🎉
Love the content bro keep it up
I’m glad I got you to play this on stream
I love this plane, a few minutes ago I got a 5 kill match where I was rtb after 2 kills but enemy kept showing up behind my and I always turned arround and slapped them with the dogfight sparrows
Thank you for the Outro!
0:40
yo pro tip for ya:
as you are closing in on that mig 21, on your radar display there will be 3 lines showing to the right
those are range indicators (both ir and sarh missiles show it). you know that you are in range, by having the one longer line in between two shorter ones.
i've learned it cause of sim x)
if the longer line is above shorter ones, its out of range, but possible it will hit under some circumstances.
if its below both lines, then its still has really good chance to hit.
when you see 1 short line and 1 longer line, it either means:
you are really out of range (so out of range that 2 lines are collapsing onto each other)
you see the bottom short range, and it means that you are in range, the max range line is out of radar display.
This. I recommend firing missiles at 2/3 or less of their max range so they dont just fall out of the sky as ive had that happen where it just slipped under a target by inches. Also id recommend climbing in a downtier in the f4e or mig23m since you can avoid the cluster fights and clear any high alt threats with ease
good video i started watching you and now i love you
great video, cant wait to get this thing
INSANE OUTRO IS SUCH A W
Only came for the outro. I love it ❤
Your outro goes unfathomably hard
My experience with 11.0:
Playing alone; constant full upteirs
Playing with someone; constant full downteirs
Thank you for this vid :)
Aye I was in stream when you played the f-4e
The ending with no ammo is the true f4 phantom experience
Day 2 of thanking you for bringing back the chilling mig outro
Imma be honest I think like 75% of the reason was because you left a comment on every video lol.
And also, a secret:
I’m gonna make a new one ;)
@@_Joob Thanks sir, pleasure doin work with you, looking forward to the new one, i'll keep spamming till then
Idk what it is but that thumbnail is gorgeous
Happy birthday joob
Found a new favorite war thunder youtuber I guess
Hey Joob I love your videos. Have an amazing day
Wake up babe, new Joob vid just dropped
It's why I like 10.0 so much. Downtiers in the f8 are an absolute slaughter and you can be competitive in 11
f8e is so great, i love it so much
My fav jet
that outro still hit hard ngl
Truly one of the downtiers
0:11 "maybe this matchmaker is just as friendly as the J-7s"
god. i wish.
Typical Joob gameplay:
*kills half the enemy team*
"Not bad, not bad..."
It's a fantastic day when Joob uploads! How would you rate the F3h Demon as well
Brutal to play that plane really. All aspects everywhere
@@brandonchan4992 that su-25 with an r-60
nice vid. also can u do a video on the f5c?
if u have it
That f5 did not let that slide
Close range head on radar missiles work great I use the 7Fs with the F-4s and have gotten kills with them under 2-3k feet in head on but works similarly with 7Es
i love private pyle
Have you done a review or video on the first sabre that is obtainable? If not, you should do one.
I absolutely adore my Israeli F-4E
that was good video im seriously
i wish the 4th gens would go up to 12.3 so this thing would actually be playable
The internet situation sounds like there was a node or something that your isp had go out and replace with a new one,. It would explain the 3 day outage(about how long it takes for techs to replace one of those things), and it could also explain the drastically improved performance when it came back. I used to work tech support at Cox, so usually a 3 day outage is something serious they have to go fix. You can also call and get credit for the days it was out, but they don't typically credit that automatically, so you have to explicitly ask for it. Depending on how much your bill is, 3 days may not be worth the time, but if people had cable and internet, a 3 day outage would be like $25+.
Called support and they had no idea what was going on, they said they’d send out a tech but the internet came back before he showed up lol.
@Joob So, in my experience(3.5yrs in tech support), as a tier 1 agent then Tier 2, you can only see an outage if there are enough calls from a specific area calling within a certain time frame(it's a formula based on the amount of subscribers on a node, etc). So if you don't call at the right time, they won't see it. If that ratio isn't met, then the agent won't have a clue that anything is wrong, and they will just go into normal troubleshooting like asking you to unplug your modem, etc, as if you havent already tried that. There are a ton of elderly people who call and haven't done that, its mind-boggling. When I first started at cox, agents like myself had access to a link that could show you if a specific address was in an outage and specifically what the problem was, and even which field agent was assigned to it. They removed that access about 1yr into my tenure because most tier 1 agents are more customer service/sales and have a tenuous grasp on how the internet works at best, so that info was worthless for 80%+. For some weird reason, I could still access it and NEVER told anyone about it, so I could see stuff most tech support agents couldn't. As the tech support role became more automated and scripted, I could see the procedures and how that differs from what actually is happening. I hope the internet stays up and running good for you though, but if it starts going bad again, I'd start thinking it's weather related(water gets into a line fitting from a storm, and it takes a few days to dry out, sort of thing). Moral of the story: most tier 1 agents can't see shit, by design, so don't take what they say as fact, because it's just corporate speak to save face and placate ignorant customers. I assume something bigger was wrong, and they actually assigned a tech behind the scenes to fix the problem and just won't admit it.
Also, we used in-house techs, and contractors. The left hand does NOT know what the right is doing, so the in-house maintenance techs fixed the outage, and the contracted tech they most likely sent wasn't required anymore, so no point in sending him any longer lol.
Saw it during the stream when will you have another
Saw this live!!
Can you make a video on your settings for the game? Want to make sure my controlls are perfect.
You can see what the range of your aim 7 is on you radar, it's that long line that shows up
And yes, I literally startet to research this plane a day before with 3
Recently unlocked this plane and decided to unlock the Aim-9J before flares… bad mistake
Hey, would you consider doing a video bringing attention to the botting going on in air RB at the moment? It’s getting really bad
I just can't get that matchmaker luck with the J-7E sadly. Mig-27 and Mig-21 Bis on the other hand are being real joyrides. I need to get this Phantom to see if that pattern holds...
It doesn't
@@Independent118 That's relative. Some people are getting almost 100% downtiers on the J-7E and I haven't got a single one. There's more to WT's matchmaker than they let out.
YOOOO wtf, I played a game with you sometime ago
Can you do an video on the centurion action x
thats the issue with br compression... on downtiers the annihilate the match and on uptiers they are just a plate of food
Idk what changed in the matchmaker, but now I got this plane and I get full upteir to 12.0 90% of the time and it’s torture. Just can’t compete with the F-16A and MiG-29
Good job, joob 😂
Cannot believe that F-5 suicide took you out too 😭
Very nice. My best game I ever had was 7 Kills in La-15.
5:56 - that’s me in the chat
joob did you reduce the bitrate lmao
some text are not readable
but hey, nice massacre
Hi joob , u should try the p39 q or the p 400 they are CRIMINALY undertired
p-39N is the best of any of them
the f4e is that kind of plane that can spank a mig21 in a dogfight and joust properly vs viggens and other stuff but will most likely get 100 matches in a row where it dies to an unnotchable f-16 or crashes while futilely avoiding enemy radar.
I get mostly uptiers in that plane it should be at 10.7
anyone have an idea of when the update drops
I get consistent upteirs and suffer. Also, how tf did u get ur Vulcan to work 😭
lov ur vids nud
You will see MiG29s for the most part. Just an L plane now
ARB version of Spookston
So what I’m getting is it worth revisiting
Downtiers are pretty dope, uptiers if you position yourself right it can work, but no way you're carrying matches
f4f erly next`? bc PAIN
more videos plz
It is a mystery to me how the F-4E has around 1000kgf more thrust per engine then the MIG-29 and yet it somehow performs so much worse.
I guess it's just that much heavier.
My internet has been on and off for ever I just found out it was every time my cat sat near the router lmao
what if these jets could get downtiered to prop plane levels
north america vs africa
5:43 every f5c player lol
The lvl 100 J7E on enemy team:
Give it lgbs Gaijin
i got a 7 kill game w/ my f4 in a downtier
i cant open src mode in radar how did u open?
The f4e might be my favorite plane in the game. And it can't get uptiers in sim anymore. Only problem is the missile range is terrible
Players like to rtb, j, then sit for a while, then come back.and ambush you with a fresh plane.
Im calling youtuber bias. Haven’t been able to get 1 downtier in an 11.0 in at least 30 matches
First
Real ones know these games are from streams(except the last one)
Just got it and it's unusable in an uptier
Armored targets belt should work a little better than the air targets you are using
"Got the crit on him though. But he seems to be fine" has been every fucking match I've played as the A-10 recently. Nothing but crits, some insta kills but its like a 70% chance crit and nothing fucking happens. Even had a kill stolen after i died, the guy i crit ran out of fuel after being on fire from my fucking 30mm cannon. Got no assist.
F4E good or bad ?
I hope it's good I'll tell you in one month (cuz at the moment I'm still grinding for it)
good????? @@dzemdobryowicz7516
Yeah, F-4EJ ADTW should definitly stay 11.0...xD
I used the my F4E to research the F16 and as long as you had aimj and aim7m's and you played smart you could get about 3 kills per game but in a down tier you can bomb 2-3 bases and get like 5-8 kills in my experience (8 only if I was super lucky in dogfights)
These jump cuts are really hard die me…
Maybe I‘m simply too old for this channel 😢
ayy 9 seconds ago
5:41
It’s literally irrelevant but it’s fun to play
If only it wasn't painful to fly 80% of the time.
11.0 matchmaking is quite depressing, great in downtier, terrible in uptier. 10.7 seems to be the best BR right now, almost guaranteed downtier.
Honestly they could make this thing 10.7 and it wouldnt be broken (alternatively increase br of the 4th gens to 12.3)
F-4e has too much performance to face 9.7s, and the armament is brutal, it's just that from 11.0 to 11.7 the performance and armament gap is just humongous
it’s very good in downtiers but it’s absolutely terrible in uptiers 😭