It may not matter much, but the compressor pedal on De Stijl was a DOD FX80 - it’s featured in this video: ua-cam.com/video/9M_c1Svz_PI/v-deo.htmlsi=aX0k_rDy_yzHXf8S
@@AudioHaze It’s just a weird thing that stuck in my brain. One of my favorite records and the compression is a DOD pedal?! For a guy with way too much gear as it is, It really helps to illustrate the “dance with the one that brung ya” concept.
I like how Jack White and Kurt Cobain chose guitars that were super affordable and sometimes discontinued yet their popularity would make them collectible. That's why I never understood the snobbery around guitar. If a new player enjoys the Monoprice Indio series or a Harley Benton, let them enjoy it. It might be the only guitar they can afford
totally, I have this whole theory that very few pieces of gear are GENUINELY bad because everything can be used in some creative way. If something happens to pop off with a piece of "bad gear" used in the recording, all the sudden it ceases to be considered bad and everyones opinions suddenly change....might make a video about it...
@@AudioHaze I would love a video about that. Heck weren't Les Pauls, Flying Vs, and Strats hated on before key players made them popular? Shure stated their SM57 and SM58 weren't popular until they pushed them to arenas.
I'm a fan of the "dog-eared" Epiphone Les Paul guitars. I have two of them. I like to hot rod them with Seymour Duncan pickups and American wiring components.
99% of the cork sniffers on gear forums are bedroom players. The minute you decide to record and play live, boutique doesn't apply anymore. You want proven, tested, sturdy and durable equipment for reliability. Most of that sort of gear sits on the more affordable side of things. Cheap guitars are pure magic. A 3000k guitar will rarely see the outside of the living room. If the does, the player is constantly worried about it. It never gets modded because after all, isn't it supposed to sound great by nature? Budget guitars can be slightly modded to taste. You get something unique, something that brings you closer to your desired sound than a pricey model ever could.
Love the fact you talked about this album, it's so underrated, one of my favs. Love the RAW feeling it has, just goes to show that good songwriting is more important than state of the art recording gear.
TOTALLY, its the album that sort of defined what the white stripes would be all about, its where they took on this "minimalist" angle of rock. Thanks for checking it out!
Excellent choice for this series! I remember in the days of winmx/kazaa downloading the song Apple Blossom from this album and loving how the piano sounded really shonky and ‘ordinary’ (in the best way) and as a teenager I had no idea this was recorded in a living room. Now it all comes full circle, currently recording an album at my grandparent’s house! I am a big fan of your general outlook towards recording and using what you have instead of wasting money on equipment you don’t necessarily need…in saying that I don’t own an SM57 yet 😆
hahaha I mean hey if you don't have a 57 an XM8500 will get ya 80% of the way there! So cool to hear though, best of luck with what you're recording at your grandparents place :)
Thank you for this video. I’ve recorded so so much in $150/hr studios… I always get crazy studio anxiety. I started recording myself in 2020 and WHOA. I’m making the best music of my life. I think shiny, great, professional production is great, but I really do believe that lower-fi does have its own place at the table. If a song is great, then rip it however you can.
brev… sound deaden your home set up, record at your leisure and then bounce the stems to a hard drive and have someone mix it at the pro studio. best of both worlds 🤙
There's a saying in photography that's essentially "the best camera is the one you have on you." I 100% feel the same is true for audio: getting it recorded, no matter what you've got to do it with, is the most important thing. What we often forget as recording engineers is that while the recording can be used as an artistic expression in itself, the main goal of what we're doing is to take the art being made and document it as best we can. The specific equipment is just details.
Thank you for making all the videos like this! They are very inspiring and you do a great job of making them informative and entertaining. Well done! Please keep up the amazing work.
Watched this and the Bon Iver video this morning. You, good sir, earned my subscription! Great content, and thanks for what you're doing. It's inspiring, empowering, and helpful.
This is the perfect video for me. I got my hands on a 60s airline for free and got really into The White Stripes music and they really inspire my music now. Good video!
This is an often over-looked about by the White Stripes. Thanks for doing the deep-dive. It's also my favorite White Stripes album, with White Blood Cells being a VERY close second.
This popped up in my feed I guess because I watch a lot of guitar and recording type videos, and I'm glad it did. I only vaguely know of The White Stripes, so I went and listened to the whole De Stijl album for the first time. I really like it and I never say that for modern music. If you have the talent, and you put in the work, you can make something cool if you apply yourself. How many of us have all the equipment to make and record music but just collect guitars and pedals like if we just had the right gear THEN we could make our masterpiece ?
Home recording music is awesome. Honestly, aspiring musicians and hobbyists can record so much, so affordably now. We're in the golden age of music technology. The only downside is the death of album oriented music and the "Spotification" of music.
Amazing Video, Thank you so much, helped a lot to get the confidence to record myself. De Stijl is such a cool album and i love the idea and the creation of the artwork!!
I’m currently working towards completing a 10-12 track album recorded using just my iPad and an i-rig. This video - and your closing message especially - gave me a little confidence boost to keep going 💪
THANK YOU for covering this album. It’s my favorite studio album of the two and it’s always inspired me to create but never knew what the setup was like in their house or how they did it Edit: granted the Stripes podcast was super awesome, but it sucks they stopped when the going was getting good
A while back I got a bit obsessed with the history of Valco and Teisco, not because of any big artist but rather because my grandpa (who passed before I was born) had a harmony acoustic guitar (harmony being one of the many brands that sold Valco manufactured instruments). I spent a while really loving all the cheap mass produced stuff from the 60s and 70s only for the white stripes and the black keys to make it cool. I think the real lesson to take from Jack White is to go to second hand shops and find something in your budget, then play it like it owes you money. Do that and people will ask you all about your gear. I did that years ago with a cheap fender guitar, a line 6 multi FX, and a Bugera amp in an alt-metal band and I had a constant stream of people coming to check out my gear only to then ask me "how do you make that shit gear sound so good?" These days I play expensive custom stuff and I really enjoy it, but I have to remind myself to play it like it cost $200 or else it'll sound like crap.
Very nice video. I wonder what your thoughts are on Primus' Brown Album, which was similarly recorded by the band in a house. Story goes it sounds all distorted because they didn't know to keep the levels not too far in the red, but they just liked the sounds (which I think was a good choice). Just as an aside, you'll probably get closer to the pronounciation of the album title by saying "duh stile" but really end on the L sound, drop the final e, that's just there to get make the i sound closer to the ij sound in Dutch. Same with duh, just keep it really short and snappy and it will sound just about right :)
Another great story with awesome research and facts. I live 15 minutes south of Detroit and played in the same dives as Jack and Meg did back in the 90s. I remember The Gold Dollar!! Great job Ricky. ✌
This reminds me of the Mick jagger interview when the stones 2nd year, where he said I think we will be busy for at least another year. I love the troubadours too. Most bands have several iterations in their resume', like ac/dc, black sabbath and fleetwood mac, players come and go, and touring looks like quite a grind. You need a well oiled machine when you see the value of the tours now, they are even saving movie theaters as alternate concert venues now, as big as stadiums are they are that popular as metallica Taylors swift and beyonce stones you name it after covid people are into the concerts😅
Well now you gotta do The Big Come up…. Or Rubber Factory. Also it would be cool to see highlight studios like Easy Eye or Rancho De La Luna. Your videos are incredible and I’m a giant fan and I hope you make $1,000,000.
Yeah man! This is dope, being from the D it's always nice seeing coverage on them; when I first heard SNA I never knew they were from my city till I was much older 😂 🔥
They start out at the exact same place as everyone else, except he's Jack freaking White, one of the most inspired and awesome guitarists around. Meg rips too, so there's that as well...
Those tascam 388 go for as much as 5000 nowadays 😅 they could’ve also been using a m30, series model 3 or m208 if they went the tascam or Teac route, with a separate tape machine of course.
You can use a heavy blanket to make a free vocal booth. Just drape it over your head and the mic while recording. Edit: work from home voice actors did this during the pandemic.
Collaboration, and recognizing when there’s something magical are the seeds. Developing it, and blossoming that magic, without fuking it up, is the genius. It’s hard. It is a lesson learned, that the things holding us back are not the things we think?
In 2007 my brother in law gave me a copy of Icky Thump. That was my beginning. From there I went to the beginning. My son already had most of the White Stripes cds. For two solid years I listened to White Stripes 98% of the time on my ipod. 😁😎
I’m pretty sure Jim Diamond recorded this album, get a hold of him. White stripes And Diamond went to court in 2006 over the engineering of the De Stijl album.
@@AudioHaze I'm sorry! For being pedantic. When there are countless compliments one can give about an Audiohaze video, sometimes it's simpler just being the grammar police :) 🙏
Very cool. Thank you so true. We have to power to make something out of nothing now. There are no excuses for modern day artists to break through if they have the talent and drive.
Totally agree with the lesson here. I also think the lesson is that we should stop chasing the gear and ideas of yesterday. Use what’s easy to get today and squeeze the art out of that. Just because Jack White or Kurt Cobain or Hendrix or Lennon used something, doesn’t make it magic. The magic was them taking what they had and being creative with it. In 20 years from now the iconic music of today will have been made on the easy to access instruments and gear of our time. Leave all the nostalgia to people who play music to imitate what they hear on their face records.
ABSOLUTELY in fact I've been thinking of making a video about this exact topic, how value of gear is determined by what others have accomplished with it in the past, not exclusively what makes it objectively "good", "good" is only defined by what's been accomplished on the gear in the past
@@AudioHaze Yeah I agree with this. You could argue that it takes time and scarce creativity to figure out what new sounds/music a piece of gear can make. So once someone has done that it adds to the value of the gear for others (by saving them the cost of having to experiment). The problem is that the additional value is only useful if you want to recreate what someone else has done. But if you want to find something new, you are better off buying whatever is affordable and easy to access today and explore that. In some ways, the more unexplored, the better the chance of finding something new. I don’t think all good music needs to be made of sounds that are totally unlike anything ever heard before. But I think what’s more valuable is the mindset of fun and creativity as opposed to imitation. No interesting music is made trying to sound like someone else. That’s just a cover band with new chords and words. I also think the glorification of old gear and sounds is a knee jerk reaction to the sheer avalanche of possibilities that new technology has brought with it. A $200 version of logic contains more creative possibilities than the Beatles ever imagined. Unless you have an idea and a plan to carry it out, it’s overwhelming. So it’s natural to retreat to recreating/imitating what others have done. But that’s a wasted chance to really just play and explore and have fun. This is (in my opinion) even more important for amateur song writers - surely their/our main goal is to actually get lost in the flow of the creative process itself. Not “produce the best work possible” but just get lost in the process. Sorry, way too long response.
The pronunciation of 'De Stijl' is not like 'they still'. It was a Dutch art movement, and being Dutch, I can tell you that it means The Style and if you simply pronounce it like that, you're actually as close to it as you can get in English.
You don't need to use the Dutch pronunciation of De Stijl - the name was a reference to "Da' Steal", just like it's "White Blood Sells" (or how Jay Reatard pronounced his name, despite how record execs and reviewers altered it to make it more palatable).
Would be fun to do a video comparing and contrasting this and get behind me Satan. Which was recorded in a house with all ribbon mics (mostly 4038’s) a neve bcm10, a studer a80 mkIV, and a Fairchild 670.
@@AudioHaze yeah pretty simple 8track tape machine recording. The neve console and Fairchild are crazy amazing and expensive but the production is pretty diy from what I understand. I almost bought that studer tape machine back in 2008 for my studio. Now Jack has his own studio in Nashville and he’s using a 2” 8 track machine that was made for Micheal beinhorn.
Yeah - Neal closed The Gold Dollar shortly thereafter @@AudioHaze . He supported a lot of the traveling indie-bands weekly & had open mics on Sundays. I used to perform there. The funny thing is that The Gold Dollar wasn't doing as good as it should of bn. Most days it only had less than a dozen ppl in there. Yet, when The White Stripes came on that Sunday, Neal told me that I needed to hear them. So I paid & witnessed this strange 2-piece band. It was the 1st time that I saw the placed pack !! Everyone in the crowd knew every lyric to their songs!! I had never even heard of them. Initially, I thought that she was an awful drummer, if a drummer at all. But there was something truly remarkable abt them. He had nice chops & reminded me of Robert Plant in his voice range. 💥💥💥 I told my friendgirl who had came with me that I thought that THEY HAD SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM BIG ONE DAY. He knew how to tell THE STORY !! 6months later I was at my house watching MTV & low & behold they were on MTV with a MUSIC VIDEO 💥💥💥 & the rest is HISTORY. It was unbelievable seeing them at The Gold Dollar, then a few months later they successfully conquered The Music Scene. The Gold Dollar was going through hard-times. I wished that Neal could of kept it open but it wasn't profitable bc it was a very tiny joint & very small capacity of less than a 100. Total Garage Band type of atmosphere.
I bought a 1965 Airline resoglass for $1250 and I was ignorant thinking that buying locking tuners would solve the tuning problem, it barely helped and still kept detuning.
Many wacky old guitars hardly stay in tune due the tremolo, nut and or bridge. The tuners are rarely the problem honestly. The nut and bridge can cause a lot of hang up if they suck.
man if you could do the Yeezus album I would shxt my pants. The Yeezus album is minimalistic but at the same time futuristic sounding, STILL TO THIS DAY. i feel like its highly underrated and the pinnacle of Ye’s artistry. there was nothing that sounded like it before and nothing has been recorded since that even comes close to the production value. Kanye specifically mixed that album to he played in stadiums. i think Jack White did the same with 7 nation army. tbh i don’t even listen to the White Stripes as its not my preference of music but i cant deny his genius. dude is an artist first and foremost just like kanye
*I would love so much if you could talk about unknown pleasures and how that was recorded im a HUGE joy division fan, please it could help my future band..* love the white stripes too btw.. ❤❤❤
That's a good one, I'll write it down! Do you know if it was recorded on a budget or in unideal conditions? I like to focus on albums that show people they can record with what they got
@@AudioHazeI believe that they were taken under the wing by Factory Records and Martin Hanet after being considered a Punk band and then they become the poster child of Post-Punk and then with New Wave Music as New Order, I've heard that they use on recording techniques that would make their album sound like it was like mechanical machinery with the drumming because I've heard they've used suitcases, an electronic drum pad, and spray cans of some sort to make it sound like they're in the void, saw the spray can scene in the control movie biopic and it was confirmed to be true I'm pretty sure, also probably one of the best music biopics I've ever seen in my life, it It was produced by Anton Corbijn which has worked with the band before, he did great work for the music video for "Atmosphere." It was like a tribute to Ian Curtis and I'm pretty sure the biopic is the first film he's ever directed, it also showed the grittyness of Manchester and all the decay of it all. It took them around only 3 months and they didn't even show the name of the band on the album cover, it was like a mystery to the locals, the band was also a punk band because of a particular show that happened in I believe 1976 which actually is the reason for modern britpop and new wave as a whole, and I'm pretty sure people that were involved with the Smiths, The Cure, and other bands that influenced UK music were all there in the Manchester Free-trade Hall, they were all inspired to make music after seeing the Sex Pistols perform and if that didn't happen it is likely that lots of music genres we know about today would not be the same or wouldn't exist at all, so it was a pretty big deal and the story of Joy Division is depressing with the condition of the singer because of the fact that he had epilepsy, depression, and also was into cigarettes and alcohol which exacerbated issues for him, and he has even once had an epileptic fit in the bathroom in a studio session and hit his head on the counter and laid there for a couple hours until the rest of the band found him there in a pool of his own blood, it was really sad when it turned out that he killed himself in May 18th of 1980 by hanging himself with a kitchen wire but at least he left a lasting impact on music forever and has changed my life forever and the lives of many, I love Joy Division and I love their influences, the bassist, Peter Hook was inspired by the Beatles and the Sex Pistols and went on to make the most melodic bass lines out of probably all rock music and the energetic drumming of Steven Morris, and tasteful guitar and synth work by Bernard Sumner, Ian Curtis was inspired by the likes of Jim Morrison's stage presence, voice/singing style, poetry, and similar qualities from Iggy Pop and David Bowie, Ian Curtis even liked to play some simple guitar himself when Bernard Sumner would play with a synth keyboard and like the jangly, vox sound of The Velvet Underground, it says online that he's also played melodica but I've never heard him play melodica in any piece of music before, but overall, I could argue all day that they were one of the best bands in all of rock history, and I mean that with every fiber of my being, I never get tired of them and I never will, I love Joy Division and I will take that to the grave, thanks for being interested, your channel is so overrated and I love your video analyses, thank you ❤❤❤
This is great! I just have one thing to say : making the guitar out of wood instead of fiberglass isn't necessarily gonna male it sound better at all. As a matter of fact, I am dumbfounded that guitar players still aren't aware of the use of fiberglass, carbon fibers and graphite in guitars, all of which are formidable materials acoustically talking. At this level of distortion anyway, it's really hard to tell, but I'd bet that the natural resonance of a hollow fiberglass body would actually be quite interesting! Guitarists need to stop being so incredibly conservative regarding their choice of material IMHO. If the guitar sounded like shit then why the hell would Jack White play it?? I don't think there's "magic" in the fiberglass tone but fiberglass is NOT plastic and it certainly has interesting characteristics for Jack to use it for a full decade of recording and touring.
For sure! I'm not one to always swear by wood built guitars either, although I will say that Jack has publicly stated he doesn't love the guitar for its ease of use or tone, more so how much he has to fight with it in order to get a decent tone, which I suppose helps his performance. Idk....usually I vibe best with guitars that feel natural to just pick up and play lol
The Steinberger back in early 80s was a carbon fibre guitar. I think production costs were always an issue. Economics probably dictate the material used as well. But guitarists are so incredibly conservative, it's not even funny.
lol now you can record album with 150$ dollar interface right at home recording and producing are different things! $$$ is utilized for mixing, mastering, pitching etc.
It may not matter much, but the compressor pedal on De Stijl was a DOD FX80 - it’s featured in this video: ua-cam.com/video/9M_c1Svz_PI/v-deo.htmlsi=aX0k_rDy_yzHXf8S
Thanks for this catch dude!!
Well wouldn't that be insane :)))
@@AudioHaze It’s just a weird thing that stuck in my brain. One of my favorite records and the compression is a DOD pedal?! For a guy with way too much gear as it is, It really helps to illustrate the “dance with the one that brung ya” concept.
Was just thinking about this!!
I like how Jack White and Kurt Cobain chose guitars that were super affordable and sometimes discontinued yet their popularity would make them collectible. That's why I never understood the snobbery around guitar. If a new player enjoys the Monoprice Indio series or a Harley Benton, let them enjoy it. It might be the only guitar they can afford
totally, I have this whole theory that very few pieces of gear are GENUINELY bad because everything can be used in some creative way. If something happens to pop off with a piece of "bad gear" used in the recording, all the sudden it ceases to be considered bad and everyones opinions suddenly change....might make a video about it...
@@AudioHaze I would love a video about that. Heck weren't Les Pauls, Flying Vs, and Strats hated on before key players made them popular? Shure stated their SM57 and SM58 weren't popular until they pushed them to arenas.
@@AudioHaze I share this theory
I'm a fan of the "dog-eared" Epiphone Les Paul guitars. I have two of them. I like to hot rod them with Seymour Duncan pickups and American wiring components.
99% of the cork sniffers on gear forums are bedroom players. The minute you decide to record and play live, boutique doesn't apply anymore. You want proven, tested, sturdy and durable equipment for reliability. Most of that sort of gear sits on the more affordable side of things. Cheap guitars are pure magic. A 3000k guitar will rarely see the outside of the living room. If the does, the player is constantly worried about it. It never gets modded because after all, isn't it supposed to sound great by nature? Budget guitars can be slightly modded to taste. You get something unique, something that brings you closer to your desired sound than a pricey model ever could.
Love the fact you talked about this album, it's so underrated, one of my favs. Love the RAW feeling it has, just goes to show that good songwriting is more important than state of the art recording gear.
TOTALLY, its the album that sort of defined what the white stripes would be all about, its where they took on this "minimalist" angle of rock. Thanks for checking it out!
@@AudioHaze thank you for the amazing content. Really helped inspired me to finally get back into music production ;)
Similar to the start of The Killers
Excellent choice for this series! I remember in the days of winmx/kazaa downloading the song Apple Blossom from this album and loving how the piano sounded really shonky and ‘ordinary’ (in the best way) and as a teenager I had no idea this was recorded in a living room. Now it all comes full circle, currently recording an album at my grandparent’s house! I am a big fan of your general outlook towards recording and using what you have instead of wasting money on equipment you don’t necessarily need…in saying that I don’t own an SM57 yet 😆
hahaha I mean hey if you don't have a 57 an XM8500 will get ya 80% of the way there! So cool to hear though, best of luck with what you're recording at your grandparents place :)
Thank you for this video. I’ve recorded so so much in $150/hr studios… I always get crazy studio anxiety. I started recording myself in 2020 and WHOA. I’m making the best music of my life. I think shiny, great, professional production is great, but I really do believe that lower-fi does have its own place at the table. If a song is great, then rip it however you can.
brev… sound deaden your home set up, record at your leisure and then bounce the stems to a hard drive and have someone mix it at the pro studio. best of both worlds 🤙
There's a saying in photography that's essentially "the best camera is the one you have on you."
I 100% feel the same is true for audio: getting it recorded, no matter what you've got to do it with, is the most important thing. What we often forget as recording engineers is that while the recording can be used as an artistic expression in itself, the main goal of what we're doing is to take the art being made and document it as best we can. The specific equipment is just details.
Another great educational video from you!
much love for your series! it's becoming a nice and reliable must-watch ❤️ great to follow you on that journey
Thanks so much my friend glad you enjoy it!!
Dang you’ve been pumping out content lately, quality hasn’t suffered either! Love it
you never fail to get my morale up. thanks for your work!
Ahhh wow thank you, that's so amazing to hear :)
Thank you for making all the videos like this! They are very inspiring and you do a great job of making them informative and entertaining. Well done! Please keep up the amazing work.
Some musical events and collaborations are monumentally awesome, and De Dtijl is one of them. Long live The White Stripes!
Bands like this are so interesting how their most reputable stuff can be so far from what keeps or makes them relevant
Watched this and the Bon Iver video this morning. You, good sir, earned my subscription! Great content, and thanks for what you're doing. It's inspiring, empowering, and helpful.
This is the perfect video for me. I got my hands on a 60s airline for free and got really into The White Stripes music and they really inspire my music now. Good video!
That's insane though congrats on the Airline!! Super jealous
surely Jack White would be gracious enough to confirm some of these details given how much hard work goes into your research?
Stellar job as always!
He would if he had the time. He's CEO of the most in demand handmade vinyl company in the world while also touring internationally....!
Another interesting and beautifully-made video. Thanks!
Thanks for checking it out!!
This is an often over-looked about by the White Stripes. Thanks for doing the deep-dive. It's also my favorite White Stripes album, with White Blood Cells being a VERY close second.
That was an excellent presentation
Thanks so much!
This popped up in my feed I guess because I watch a lot of guitar and recording type videos, and I'm glad it did. I only vaguely know of The White Stripes, so I went and listened to the whole De Stijl album for the first time. I really like it and I never say that for modern music. If you have the talent, and you put in the work, you can make something cool if you apply yourself. How many of us have all the equipment to make and record music but just collect guitars and pedals like if we just had the right gear THEN we could make our masterpiece ?
Really enjoyed this. Love the minimal aspect of this band and album.
Home recording music is awesome. Honestly, aspiring musicians and hobbyists can record so much, so affordably now. We're in the golden age of music technology. The only downside is the death of album oriented music and the "Spotification" of music.
Amazing Video, Thank you so much, helped a lot to get the confidence to record myself. De Stijl is such a cool album and i love the idea and the creation of the artwork!!
Excellent video. Great voice, pace, information, editing, and story telling. Thank you.
There is a video with Jack and Ben Blackwell in which the compressor pedal used in the album is shown, it is a DOD compressor.
Yes I saw another commenter point that out! Pinned it :)
This is fast becoming a must watch channel for me, cheers for the great vids.
I’m currently working towards completing a 10-12 track album recorded using just my iPad and an i-rig.
This video - and your closing message especially - gave me a little confidence boost to keep going 💪
How’s it going ?
Yes with so much gear aimed at getting great results recording at home nowadays, we're really very fortunate!
THANK YOU for covering this album. It’s my favorite studio album of the two and it’s always inspired me to create but never knew what the setup was like in their house or how they did it
Edit: granted the Stripes podcast was super awesome, but it sucks they stopped when the going was getting good
Ah that's so awesome to hear! Yeah I noticed they only covered the early career of the band, wonder why it stopped...
It's the heart of the music that matters. And being at the right place at the right time.
Totally :) white stripes are the perfect example of that
My new favorite channel. Thanks for the inspiration and please keep it up! 🙌
Another great video! Really fascinating, cheers! 😊
Thanks man!
Inspirational video. Making me want to get back to recording my backlog of songs. Thanks!
Awesome episode. Keep them coming.
A while back I got a bit obsessed with the history of Valco and Teisco, not because of any big artist but rather because my grandpa (who passed before I was born) had a harmony acoustic guitar (harmony being one of the many brands that sold Valco manufactured instruments). I spent a while really loving all the cheap mass produced stuff from the 60s and 70s only for the white stripes and the black keys to make it cool.
I think the real lesson to take from Jack White is to go to second hand shops and find something in your budget, then play it like it owes you money. Do that and people will ask you all about your gear. I did that years ago with a cheap fender guitar, a line 6 multi FX, and a Bugera amp in an alt-metal band and I had a constant stream of people coming to check out my gear only to then ask me "how do you make that shit gear sound so good?"
These days I play expensive custom stuff and I really enjoy it, but I have to remind myself to play it like it cost $200 or else it'll sound like crap.
Nailed it! Great stuff, man
They actually visited the Rietveld Schröderhuis while on tour in The Netherlands, which goes to show how deep the De Stijl influence went.
I was reading (as a Dutch man) the comments thinking " does nobody know " De Stijl" ? One of my favorite artist . So thanks
oeps, reactie to early!
Very nice video. I wonder what your thoughts are on Primus' Brown Album, which was similarly recorded by the band in a house. Story goes it sounds all distorted because they didn't know to keep the levels not too far in the red, but they just liked the sounds (which I think was a good choice). Just as an aside, you'll probably get closer to the pronounciation of the album title by saying "duh stile" but really end on the L sound, drop the final e, that's just there to get make the i sound closer to the ij sound in Dutch. Same with duh, just keep it really short and snappy and it will sound just about right :)
Another great story with awesome research and facts. I live 15 minutes south of Detroit and played in the same dives as Jack and Meg did back in the 90s. I remember The Gold Dollar!! Great job Ricky. ✌
Thanks man! So cool, wish I knew more about the Gold Dollar when it was around, everything I saw about it seemed to be pictures after its prime
This reminds me of the Mick jagger interview when the stones 2nd year, where he said I think we will be busy for at least another year. I love the troubadours too. Most bands have several iterations in their resume', like ac/dc, black sabbath and fleetwood mac, players come and go, and touring looks like quite a grind. You need a well oiled machine when you see the value of the tours now, they are even saving movie theaters as alternate concert venues now, as big as stadiums are they are that popular as metallica Taylors swift and beyonce stones you name it after covid people are into the concerts😅
Well now you gotta do The Big Come up…. Or Rubber Factory. Also it would be cool to see highlight studios like Easy Eye or Rancho De La Luna.
Your videos are incredible and I’m a giant fan and I hope you make $1,000,000.
Yeah man! This is dope, being from the D it's always nice seeing coverage on them; when I first heard SNA I never knew they were from my city till I was much older 😂 🔥
That's sick!! Yeah I'd love to dive more into the Detroit underground at some point, it MUST have some insane undiscovered artists
Hell yeah, it's a dope hub for quite a few scenes! @@AudioHaze
3:10 the first album was only partly recorded at a studio. Almost half was also recorded at Jack’s house
They start out at the exact same place as everyone else, except he's Jack freaking White, one of the most inspired and awesome guitarists around. Meg rips too, so there's that as well...
Those tascam 388 go for as much as 5000 nowadays 😅 they could’ve also been using a m30, series model 3 or m208 if they went the tascam or Teac route, with a separate tape machine of course.
9:53 - “compromise” nice Freudian slip
Gold Dollar was a great place to see local garage punk bands back then.🗽♥️
You can use a heavy blanket to make a free vocal booth. Just drape it over your head and the mic while recording.
Edit: work from home voice actors did this during the pandemic.
Totally! I've done this myself tons of times :)
Collaboration, and recognizing when there’s something magical are the seeds. Developing it, and blossoming that magic, without fuking it up, is the genius.
It’s hard.
It is a lesson learned, that the things holding us back are not the things we think?
In 2007 my brother in law gave me a copy of Icky Thump. That was my beginning. From there I went to the beginning. My son already had most of the White Stripes cds. For two solid years I listened to White Stripes 98% of the time on my ipod. 😁😎
Great format for this informational video
Thanks Henry!
My favorite album from my favorite band
4:30 it is a crime that you ended that story early 😢
When I first heard Were Gonna Be Friends from the Napoleon Dynamite movie I was floored. Been a fan ever since.
For me it was Ball and Biscuit!! Crazyyyyy solos on there
Great video!
Thank you so much!
Piet Mondrian effect🗽♥️
clean and fun, what more do you need. oh yea informative
I’m pretty sure Jim Diamond recorded this album, get a hold of him. White stripes And Diamond went to court in 2006 over the engineering of the De Stijl album.
one of my favorite albums.
also reminding me to try recording with the plastic Elsa guitar i got from the thrift store
Oh I HAVE to hear this Elsa guitar now.
@@AudioHazeLet it go. 😅
Great video. De Stijl is actually from dutch and is pronounced "duh-stayle"
Keep going bro!
Thanks man will do!
9:52 I love this entire thing, but can't resist mentioning that I think you meant "comprise" 😘
Sorry about that one! Slip of the tongue
@@AudioHaze I'm sorry! For being pedantic.
When there are countless compliments one can give about an Audiohaze video, sometimes it's simpler just being the grammar police :) 🙏
Very cool. Thank you so true. We have to power to make something out of nothing now. There are no excuses for modern day artists to break through if they have the talent and drive.
Totally agree with the lesson here. I also think the lesson is that we should stop chasing the gear and ideas of yesterday. Use what’s easy to get today and squeeze the art out of that. Just because Jack White or Kurt Cobain or Hendrix or Lennon used something, doesn’t make it magic. The magic was them taking what they had and being creative with it. In 20 years from now the iconic music of today will have been made on the easy to access instruments and gear of our time. Leave all the nostalgia to people who play music to imitate what they hear on their face records.
ABSOLUTELY in fact I've been thinking of making a video about this exact topic, how value of gear is determined by what others have accomplished with it in the past, not exclusively what makes it objectively "good", "good" is only defined by what's been accomplished on the gear in the past
@@AudioHaze Yeah I agree with this. You could argue that it takes time and scarce creativity to figure out what new sounds/music a piece of gear can make. So once someone has done that it adds to the value of the gear for others (by saving them the cost of having to experiment). The problem is that the additional value is only useful if you want to recreate what someone else has done. But if you want to find something new, you are better off buying whatever is affordable and easy to access today and explore that. In some ways, the more unexplored, the better the chance of finding something new.
I don’t think all good music needs to be made of sounds that are totally unlike anything ever heard before. But I think what’s more valuable is the mindset of fun and creativity as opposed to imitation. No interesting music is made trying to sound like someone else. That’s just a cover band with new chords and words.
I also think the glorification of old gear and sounds is a knee jerk reaction to the sheer avalanche of possibilities that new technology has brought with it. A $200 version of logic contains more creative possibilities than the Beatles ever imagined. Unless you have an idea and a plan to carry it out, it’s overwhelming. So it’s natural to retreat to recreating/imitating what others have done. But that’s a wasted chance to really just play and explore and have fun. This is (in my opinion) even more important for amateur song writers - surely their/our main goal is to actually get lost in the flow of the creative process itself. Not “produce the best work possible” but just get lost in the process.
Sorry, way too long response.
The pronunciation of 'De Stijl' is not like 'they still'. It was a Dutch art movement, and being Dutch, I can tell you that it means The Style and if you simply pronounce it like that, you're actually as close to it as you can get in English.
I’m not Dutch myself, but I’ve heard Dutch people pronounce it like Duh Schteel.
Then they weren't Dutch, or you didn't hear it correctly. 'Duh Schteel' doesn't resemble anything Dutch, it doesn't mean anything. @@atomicsmith
Excellent piece. 🙏
Thanks!
For you I bought my Lewitt lct 440, thanks :)
Dude enjoy!! Happy recording :)
Imagine when this dude discovers Flat Duo Jets.
9:53 comprise
pick a fight with it, and win hahahaha i love that
You don't need to use the Dutch pronunciation of De Stijl - the name was a reference to "Da' Steal", just like it's "White Blood Sells" (or how Jay Reatard pronounced his name, despite how record execs and reviewers altered it to make it more palatable).
Thanks for the info!
Would be fun to do a video comparing and contrasting this and get behind me Satan. Which was recorded in a house with all ribbon mics (mostly 4038’s) a neve bcm10, a studer a80 mkIV, and a Fairchild 670.
Really?? I NEVER new that! I thought get behind me satan was a huge production like Elephant was, learned something new today
@@AudioHaze I don't know about huge; Toerag might have become famous since but it's not Abbey Road. 😉
@@AudioHaze yeah pretty simple 8track tape machine recording. The neve console and Fairchild are crazy amazing and expensive but the production is pretty diy from what I understand. I almost bought that studer tape machine back in 2008 for my studio. Now Jack has his own studio in Nashville and he’s using a 2” 8 track machine that was made for Micheal beinhorn.
I was at The Gold Dollar b4 the broke Big !! I saw them at Neal's Famous Venue !!
No way!!! What was it like?? It looks dodgy as hell in these photos 😂
Yeah - Neal closed The Gold Dollar shortly thereafter @@AudioHaze . He supported a lot of the traveling indie-bands weekly & had open mics on Sundays. I used to perform there. The funny thing is that The Gold Dollar wasn't doing as good as it should of bn. Most days it only had less than a dozen ppl in there. Yet, when The White Stripes came on that Sunday, Neal told me that I needed to hear them. So I paid & witnessed this strange 2-piece band. It was the 1st time that I saw the placed pack !! Everyone in the crowd knew every lyric to their songs!! I had never even heard of them. Initially, I thought that she was an awful drummer, if a drummer at all. But there was something truly remarkable abt them. He had nice chops & reminded me of Robert Plant in his voice range. 💥💥💥
I told my friendgirl who had came with me that I thought that THEY HAD SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM BIG ONE DAY. He knew how to tell THE STORY !!
6months later I was at my house watching MTV & low & behold they were on MTV with a MUSIC VIDEO 💥💥💥 & the rest is HISTORY.
It was unbelievable seeing them at The Gold Dollar, then a few months later they successfully conquered The Music Scene.
The Gold Dollar was going through hard-times. I wished that Neal could of kept it open but it wasn't profitable bc it was a very tiny joint & very small capacity of less than a 100. Total Garage Band type of atmosphere.
I bought a 1965 Airline resoglass for $1250 and I was ignorant thinking that buying locking tuners would solve the tuning problem, it barely helped and still kept detuning.
Many wacky old guitars hardly stay in tune due the tremolo, nut and or bridge. The tuners are rarely the problem honestly. The nut and bridge can cause a lot of hang up if they suck.
man if you could do the Yeezus album I would shxt my pants. The Yeezus album is minimalistic but at the same time futuristic sounding, STILL TO THIS DAY. i feel like its highly underrated and the pinnacle of Ye’s artistry. there was nothing that sounded like it before and nothing has been recorded since that even comes close to the production value. Kanye specifically mixed that album to he played in stadiums. i think Jack White did the same with 7 nation army. tbh i don’t even listen to the White Stripes as its not my preference of music but i cant deny his genius. dude is an artist first and foremost just like kanye
Don’t underestimate plastic guitars. I have a Supro and it’s incredible.
Why were the guitars on the record compromised?
*I would love so much if you could talk about unknown pleasures and how that was recorded im a HUGE joy division fan, please it could help my future band..* love the white stripes too btw.. ❤❤❤
That's a good one, I'll write it down! Do you know if it was recorded on a budget or in unideal conditions? I like to focus on albums that show people they can record with what they got
@@AudioHazeI believe that they were taken under the wing by Factory Records and Martin Hanet after being considered a Punk band and then they become the poster child of Post-Punk and then with New Wave Music as New Order, I've heard that they use on recording techniques that would make their album sound like it was like mechanical machinery with the drumming because I've heard they've used suitcases, an electronic drum pad, and spray cans of some sort to make it sound like they're in the void, saw the spray can scene in the control movie biopic and it was confirmed to be true I'm pretty sure, also probably one of the best music biopics I've ever seen in my life, it It was produced by Anton Corbijn which has worked with the band before, he did great work for the music video for "Atmosphere." It was like a tribute to Ian Curtis and I'm pretty sure the biopic is the first film he's ever directed, it also showed the grittyness of Manchester and all the decay of it all. It took them around only 3 months and they didn't even show the name of the band on the album cover, it was like a mystery to the locals, the band was also a punk band because of a particular show that happened in I believe 1976 which actually is the reason for modern britpop and new wave as a whole, and I'm pretty sure people that were involved with the Smiths, The Cure, and other bands that influenced UK music were all there in the Manchester Free-trade Hall, they were all inspired to make music after seeing the Sex Pistols perform and if that didn't happen it is likely that lots of music genres we know about today would not be the same or wouldn't exist at all, so it was a pretty big deal and the story of Joy Division is depressing with the condition of the singer because of the fact that he had epilepsy, depression, and also was into cigarettes and alcohol which exacerbated issues for him, and he has even once had an epileptic fit in the bathroom in a studio session and hit his head on the counter and laid there for a couple hours until the rest of the band found him there in a pool of his own blood, it was really sad when it turned out that he killed himself in May 18th of 1980 by hanging himself with a kitchen wire but at least he left a lasting impact on music forever and has changed my life forever and the lives of many, I love Joy Division and I love their influences, the bassist, Peter Hook was inspired by the Beatles and the Sex Pistols and went on to make the most melodic bass lines out of probably all rock music and the energetic drumming of Steven Morris, and tasteful guitar and synth work by Bernard Sumner, Ian Curtis was inspired by the likes of Jim Morrison's stage presence, voice/singing style, poetry, and similar qualities from Iggy Pop and David Bowie, Ian Curtis even liked to play some simple guitar himself when Bernard Sumner would play with a synth keyboard and like the jangly, vox sound of The Velvet Underground, it says online that he's also played melodica but I've never heard him play melodica in any piece of music before, but overall, I could argue all day that they were one of the best bands in all of rock history, and I mean that with every fiber of my being, I never get tired of them and I never will, I love Joy Division and I will take that to the grave, thanks for being interested, your channel is so overrated and I love your video analyses, thank you ❤❤❤
I thought I read that the 8 track was a Tascam 38 (using 1/2 inch tape(
Yo man 2 questions, what about the giveaway? And also can you do Lukas graham's first album? Or maybe even just 7 years
God they are cool
I bet Jack’s a strict parent
This is great! I just have one thing to say : making the guitar out of wood instead of fiberglass isn't necessarily gonna male it sound better at all. As a matter of fact, I am dumbfounded that guitar players still aren't aware of the use of fiberglass, carbon fibers and graphite in guitars, all of which are formidable materials acoustically talking. At this level of distortion anyway, it's really hard to tell, but I'd bet that the natural resonance of a hollow fiberglass body would actually be quite interesting!
Guitarists need to stop being so incredibly conservative regarding their choice of material IMHO. If the guitar sounded like shit then why the hell would Jack White play it?? I don't think there's "magic" in the fiberglass tone but fiberglass is NOT plastic and it certainly has interesting characteristics for Jack to use it for a full decade of recording and touring.
For sure! I'm not one to always swear by wood built guitars either, although I will say that Jack has publicly stated he doesn't love the guitar for its ease of use or tone, more so how much he has to fight with it in order to get a decent tone, which I suppose helps his performance. Idk....usually I vibe best with guitars that feel natural to just pick up and play lol
Tonewood for acoustic guitars is very important. But for electric guitars, it has zero use for the tone.
The Steinberger back in early 80s was a carbon fibre guitar. I think production costs were always an issue. Economics probably dictate the material used as well. But guitarists are so incredibly conservative, it's not even funny.
Meg was 🔥🔥. That’s why they succeeded. A pretty and busty drummer, whew
lol now you can record album with 150$ dollar interface right at home
recording and producing are different things!
$$$ is utilized for mixing, mastering, pitching etc.
Good**
Good video, but you need to go easy on the Chromatic aberration in the b-roll/stills.
Noted :) appreciate it, sometimes I get carried away
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True, a laptop and still a garage band
Yup, thats how I've been doing it since 2005
0:07 who is this lady?
Needledrop doppelganger wtf...
De wat?!
it's pronounced like 'the style' with an accent
can't listen to even 2 seconds of them---everyone else, enjoy
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$500, if you have a $3k board.
That is solid musician math
no way they furnished the whole living room for 500 bucks
I mean...they probably had the furniture lol
@@AudioHaze just kidding, man. Good video
You mispronounced the album title. It should sound like Du Shteel.
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"De Stijl" is pronounced like "Duh Stijl", with the "ij" sounding like the "i" in "Ice"
EDIT: In actual dutch, I mean
Thanks for the info :)
If you'd pronounce "De stijl" as "the style" you'd be closer than whatever you try to make of it. Destill and De Stijl don't sound anything alike.
Algorithm Boost!
Thanks man :)