Making CHEAP Tomato Paste Wash at 10.8% ABV and only 28p per litre to run through an Air Still Pro!
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Making CHEAP Tomato Paste Wash at 10.8% ABV and only 28p per litre to run through an Air Still Pro! • Making CHEAP Tomato Pa... .
Hey folks! I thought I'd have another go at distilling, thanks to those lovely people at www.brewathome.shop who have leant me an Air Still Pro, to see what I think of it and how it compares to the traditional Air Still. In order to prepare for the distillation, I have had to make a tomato paste wash, so this film is about going through the process of making a very cheap tomato paste wash in preparation for distilling.
The ingredients for the wash are as follows: 4 kg of sugar (£4.28), 1 tube of tomato pureé (60p), 1 pack of Still Spirits Turbo Yeast (free - it came with my Air Still), and approximately 17 litres of ordinary tap water (free).
The recipe for this brew is as follows:
1. Fill a large saucepan with hot water (approx 10-12 litres).
2. Put the pan onto some heat so it comes to a simmer.
3. As the water is heating add the sugar and stir as you add it.
4. Squeeze the tomato pureé into the pan and stir it all together.
5. Keep the heat on the pan until all of the sugar has completely dissolved, then remove the heat.
6. Leave to cool for around 3 hours.
7. Add 5 litres of cold water into a fermentation bucket.
8. Pour the tomato sugar water into the fermentation bucket on top of the cold water.
9. Add the yeast, and after adding the yeast, in this case I added carbon, which came with the yeast, I wouldn't normally use carbon, but it came with the yeast, so I followed the instructions.
10. Leave to fully ferment, then rack into demijohns and place somewhere cool so that it clears a little before going into the distiller.
11. Once cleared the tomato paste was he is ready to be distilled.
My key reflection of this process is that it is indeed very easy to make cheap tomato paste wash, this worked out at 28p per litre and it made tomato paste at 10.8% ABV. My other reflection is that the Still Spirits Turbo Yeast isn't very good, it took a long time to ferment and was certainly no faster than Lalvin EC-1118, I also think that for absolute cheapness that bread yeast would likely work just as well.
Anyway, if you're interested in what happens to this tomato paste wash in terms of distillation, keep an eye on my UA-cam channel as I'll be running it through both an Air Still and an Air Still Pro in order to compare the results and also review the Air Still Pro.
Once again thanks to www.brewathome.shop for loaning me the Air Still Pro, it's really appreciated, cheers!
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Thank you!! thumbs up
I've never needed to use tomato paste with the Pure turbo yeast as it comes with it's own nutrients (hence the size of the packet), and they are usually very quick to ferment out (5 -7 days for 5 gallons). So I rather think that the tomato paste was your undoing. I've stopped using the carbon (horrible stuff) and, I don't use the finings either - the wash clears of it's own accord in a few days. I've also managed to save a few bob by not filtering the distillate and not using the 'conditioner'.
I'm trialling a gallon of sugar wash, using inverted sugar at the minute (started on the 13th March). The starting gravity was 1.110 (I probably overdid the sugar a bit. LOL) but, it's been going well, and it's slowing down a bit now so, it could be nearing completion.
I'm enjoying watching your videos, keep up the good work.
Thanks Nigel, yes you're probably right about me overdosing the yeast with nutrient from the puree, I Han't considered that before. I won't use the turbo yeast again anyway, I've done the before with EC-1118 yeast and it's been fine. Thanks for your lengthy comment and positive feedback, very much appreciated.
I used the Alcotec turbo yeast and I used 6 KG of sugar and mine started to ferment in around 6 hours and took 2 days to finish but it was close to 30.C in the house at the time, that is the summer that just went. Now it would be starting to get a little cold as we are now into the second month of Autumn.
@@steviebboy69 Wow that is an incredible turnaround time!
@@MossHomeandGarden Well it was summer and hot in the house, and I guess I left it sit in the fermenter for at least a week longer.
im sure i used bakers yeast instead of the turbo as some brewers prefer it to the turbo which ive heard causes after tastes in the finished product
The distilled stuff isn't that bad actually...although it needs a couple more days to breath.
Looking forward to seeing how it all turns out especially with the Airstill Pro. don't give up on the turbo it prefers 25 degrees but it and a few passes through a "britta" filter keep up the good work
Thanks George, I didn't realise it needed such a high temperature, more of a Summer option in future then I think!
@@MossHomeandGarden have a look at a 50 watt fish tank heater from Pets at Home these are great for keeping a 25litre bucket warm also insulate the bucket with bubble wrap or the stuff with tin foil on it and a cardboard box wrapped round the bucket keep up the good work
@@oxfordweddingpiper Thanks for the tip George, I have considered the fish tank heater before, but the one I saw made me wonder about closing the lid and how I'd get an air-tight seal...possibly one to use in the flat-bottomed Fermzilla instead?
@@MossHomeandGarden if you to Wilko they have 1 inch rubber bungs with airlocks, drill a 1 inch hole in your lid near the edge, undo the plug and thread the wires through the bung, re-attach the plug. Now check how far down you want the heater to sit pinch where the wire goes in and wrap the wire where it goes through the bung with plumbers PTFE tape if you wrap it enough it will make a good air tight seal. You will have to redo it occasionally but its great in the winter.
@@oxfordweddingpiper Thanks George, I’ll definitely keep this in mind for Winter. (Replying from other account).
did u know that you can reuse the yeast for a second brew the method leave 4ltrs of wash in the fermenter add another 4kg sugar 200g tomato paste plus nutrient top up too 23lts with water and referment hope this helps m8
I may have to give this a go. Is that using bakers yeast?
You live and learn....next time!
Another great video 👍🏻
Cheers again!!
The tomato puree also seems to give the finished alcohol a bright zing but that might just be me, also you can just use bread yeast for this
Yes, I won't be using the turbo yeast again, any old yeast will do I reckon.
Does the turbo yeast already contain yeast nutrients - if so the tomato paste is not required
I believe that it did, but I wasn't aware at the time, it was the first and only time that I've used it.
When you use Turbo yeast, use ONLY sugar and water. The reason people add tomato paste to the their wash is for nutrients and to lower the pH. Turbo “yeast” isn’t just yeast - it also has a LOT of nutrients and an acid to lower the pH - to whatever level makes the yeast become super-charged (for lack of a better term) - any more (even the paste) can end up burning the yeast. I’ve used several types of Turbo yeast, and nothing beats it when you want product FAST. I’ve consistently had washes with enough sugar for 16% ferment out in 3 days - another 24h yo degas, and add finings and let them settle. I’ve consistently gotten washes between 21-23.5% ferment out in 6-9 days - that’s getting close to the range of low wines by fermentation alone. The problem with the Turbo yeast/nutrient, is that the very high amount of yeast nutrient - especially ammonia, phosphorus and MAYBE magnesium (afaik their secret sauce is secret (but I know DAP when I see/taste it - and there is a shit ton of DAP in it) - all this fertilizer along with a yeast selected for it’s resistance to high alcohol concentration and high levels of “nutrient” rather than flavour, leaves a product with a very specific, undesirable flavour and smell - and I’m using a reflux rig, I hate to IMAGINE what it would taste like coming out of a pit still w a doubler, much less an AIR STILL!!!
Yes, I've learned from my mistake, it was the only time I've ever used it (it was free), and I probably won't again.
You may want to try a kale wash next, no carbon needed and no finings needed, I have the pro airstill, find it very good
Thanks! I've never tried a kale wash, but I certainly will do. My next wash is actually a carrot wash using my own home-made carrot puree!
@Moss Home and Garden sounds amazing ill keep an eye out for the video, keep up the good work
@@kitobi10660 Cheers! 🍻
Marvellous
Thanks (replying from other account).
I do a 25 litre wash and use the Turbo pack all the time and if i start the wash in the morning then my airlock is bubbling away like mad that night so there's nothing wrong with the Turbo pack at all. And this is the first video i have seen where someone uses the Turbo carbon in a Tomato paste wash.
I used that particular pack and the carbon as they were free and id had them sat in a cupboard for a couple of years. I usually use EC-1118.
Use bakers yeast. Much cheaper and works perfectly on a tpw. I add tomato paste and juice of a lemon, plus 30-50g of bakers yeast. Ferments out dry in a few days and starts within an hour of pitching. 30 degrees C. Turbo yeast is awful stuff.
I usually use cider yeast, but the turbo yeast was free, I'd never buy it.
hi m8 hoping you are well ive done this wash meny times foundit cheaper and a cleaner taste imo
Hi Stevie, cheers for comment, yes I think any yeast would do to be honest.
Did you pitch the yeast at the correct temperature? I’ve used this product for years with no snags, why are you using tomato purée?
The yeast feeds off the sugar. Pitch at 30C as per instructions, let it cool to 20C and maintain that for approx 8 days.
If you are looking to flavour the alcohol, you can either steam it through herbs (pot still function) or post flavour with column still function.
Sugar wash distilling tends to produce a tasteless Vodka product when distilling at 90, remember to cast your heads.
Hi Colin, to be honest I didn't record the temperature at which I'd pitched the yeast, and since doing this I found out that I didn't need the tomato paste, when using EC1118 for such a brew I would use tomato paste but the turbo already came with nutrient and I hadn't realised as I'd never used it before. I've done a few stilling films now and have made vodka, gin and fruit flavoured schnapps both using the still for herbs and using syrups at the point of dilution. Thanks for the comment, advice always appreciated.
@@MossHomeandGarden it’s all a learning curve, my latest drink is make your spirit up to 90, dilute with Tesco green ginger wine and cold black coffee, (I grind my own beans and put them through the cappuccino machine) add brandy flavour.
I’m showing my age now, but it’s very like Berni Inn French coffee.
Regards, Colin
@@colinbarber9324 Hi Colin, thanks for the words again, I must say your drink sounds rather delicious! Have you ever made a coffee cream liquer?
@@MossHomeandGarden it’s on my list, if you replace the brandy with whiskey, you will get what’s called a Whisky Mac with the ginger recipe.
Regards, Colin
@@colinbarber9324 Oh I’m familiar with the whisky mac, one of my favourites!
So, you basically making Tomato paste acholic sounds weird yet interesting to say at least XD
Hey, it's all about experiment eh?
I wonder if this would ended up being Tomato wine? lol
Technically yes, it is tomato wine, but it is just a 'wash' to be distilled to make spirits with.
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Cheers Rex!
Sugar blend fine in 20 degree water, just stir it in 10 liters.. Takes 15 min, stir 2 or 3 times- and it is super clear.. No watts wasted.. I used ur method before, but there is no point.. Just work
Fair enough, I'll try your method this Winter when I do my next wash.
Hii fellow brewer!! Turbo yeast is not to recomand !! If you going to make desent spirit, Time is your friend when you brew!😎
Thanks for the tip, I only used it because it was free.
@@MossHomeandGarden i understand 👍
you didnt say how it tasted......we all are waiting for that-
My apologies, I'll do better next time!
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