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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Join us on an intriguing journey to Nike Missile Site BA-79, just outside Baltimore. This video delves into the rich history of this Cold War-era defense site, originally constructed to protect the United States from potential Soviet attacks. We'll explore its strategic significance, the technology behind the Nike missiles, and the daily operations of the personnel stationed here. Fast forward to today, we'll take you on a tour of the remnants of the site, showcasing the eerie yet fascinating remnants of a bygone era. Don't miss this deep dive into a hidden piece of American history!
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  • @MichaelGreen-dm2ov
    @MichaelGreen-dm2ov Місяць тому +84

    My father was stationed there when he met my mom. It wasn't a secret base it was a secure military installation. Miss those days.

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 Місяць тому +53

    As soon as I saw the nicely painted stowage hatches and building signs, with the grass mowed away from the pavement, I knew some retired Air Force vet had a hand in restoring the place.
    Thank you, Master Sergeant Keane and co.!

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  Місяць тому +8

      The team of volunteers have done an amazing restoriation job!

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 Місяць тому +25

    For those wondering why a missile for shooting at planes has a nuclear warhead, there were two reasons:
    1. Missiles from the 1950's and 1960's were not as accurate as now; they were not "smart". A (relatively small) nuclear warhead meant that "close" was a much wider area than with conventional high-explosive/shrapnel. The warhead would vaporize the plane and knock down any nearby planes. Given that the likely targets would be enemy bombers with nuclear weapons aboard headed for the United States, this was reckoned as necessary.
    2. The second reason is not quite as understandable. Frankly, when this missile system was designed in the 50's, the US govt. and US military was nuke-crazy. Many problems were seen as "nuclear solvable" and they designed many different weapons or even non-military uses to take advantage of the power of a nuclear chain reaction.

    • @shaneiveson517
      @shaneiveson517 Місяць тому +2

      I was always told it's because the bomber fleets would so large during an attack that only a nuke would offer the ability to clear them

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Місяць тому +1

      @@shaneiveson517 Not really. I mean, yeah, it would have been hundreds of bombers, but the area they would have coming in across (all of upper Canada, Greenland, and the North Pacific and Atlantic) meant the actual dispersal would have been huge. It was more down to them carrying nukes as a threat and the lack of guarantee of kill with the targeting systems of the day. You can use a smaller warhead if you KNOW it is going to hit right on the nose of the target.

    • @togaman03
      @togaman03 Місяць тому +13

      I am going to talk about what I know. The Nike Hercules System was very accurate. The system could easily track and destroy a target with an HE warhead. The sitting Battery Commander made the decision which warhead was to be used. Accuracy was not a problem. The missile was guided the entire distance to the target by a Missile Tracking Radar that was directed by a Fire Control Computer to send pitch and yaw commands a very accurate predictive intersection. The Fire Control Computer used information for 2 other Tracking Radars that tracked the target. They were the Target Tracking Radar and the Target Ranging Radar. Nike Hercules system was replaced by the Patriot System in the 80's.
      A Nike Hercules Battery could only fire one missile at a time and that is the real problem. The Patriot System can track more targets and send more missiles at the same time.
      The Nike System has a longer range than the Patriot System.
      The Patriot System is much more mobile than Nike.
      The Nike System was never used in live Combat. There were live shots at selected ranges for crews to practice and show their expertise.
      The Patriot has proved it self in combat and continues to do so.
      I was a Nike Hercules Fire Control Technician and maintaining the tracking radars and guidance computer was my job.

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Місяць тому

      @@togaman03 So it was more rate of fire and tracking limitations than accuracy? (Same guy who shot his mouth off above). My question to your info also is: What was the missile reliability? There were things like the Sparrow of the same generation that had good results on the test range but in practice were prone to failure.

    • @togaman03
      @togaman03 Місяць тому +7

      @@MM22966 Nike was accurate, but accurate prior testing of equipment and crew needed to be done often. The Nike Hercules Integrated Fire Control consisted of 1 or 2 acquisition radars, 3 tracking radars and a guidance computer, were comprised of mostly tubes( 95%.). This made mobility hard, but not impossible.
      The Nike Hercules was a Surface to Air and Surface to Surface. My understanding of the Sparrow is it is Air to Air.

  • @MichaelRoy-hc3lz
    @MichaelRoy-hc3lz Місяць тому +13

    I lived South of Baltimore and in High School (73-74) we would go explore the Nike base near Ft. Smallwood. There was always something about that place that gave me the creeps. A couple friends said the same thing.

  • @davezuchero9889
    @davezuchero9889 Місяць тому +23

    Outstanding job! I'm a volunteer at BA-79 and saw some things I never saw before! Well done!

  • @jerryallen5667
    @jerryallen5667 Місяць тому +12

    I grew up in Baltimore and I have lived my whole life in Maryland. I did not know this place existed. I will have to take the family to go see it.

  • @kmabythesea
    @kmabythesea Місяць тому +16

    My city, Beverly Mass, had Nike Site B-15L and home to 30 Ajax. Decommissioned in 1964. In the 80s it was a popular high school party location.

  • @gnarvin
    @gnarvin Місяць тому +8

    I live 10 mins from the BA-03 one, I went there looking for skate spots when I was younger and they all had old rusted chains and locks on the hatches, I was also told they were filled with concrete anyways. I always wondered what they looked like inside, cool stuff.

  • @samharrison2738
    @samharrison2738 Місяць тому +6

    Years ago, I told my wife about a visit to the Nike Missile site with my cub scout troupe/den. I was about 7 or 8 years old at the time. So that would have been around 1955-56. I also recall we drove up Liberty Road on the way there.

  • @PatsGarageOnline
    @PatsGarageOnline 25 днів тому +1

    I'm a big cold war enthusiast and I knew about these Nike sites but did not know that this one was open to the public. I'm going to go see it! Lived nearby for 25 years. Also, great videography. I'm glad UA-cam is serving this up as a recommended video. Always nice to see a vid go viral!

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  11 днів тому +1

      Thanks! Its a really cool example and the volunteers there have put in a lot of work to get it where it is today.

  • @PRR-Fan
    @PRR-Fan Місяць тому +5

    Wow, I didn't realize there were so many of those sites around Baltimore

  • @jonjacob1962
    @jonjacob1962 Місяць тому +5

    Dude. I LOVE your voice. It's SO relaxing...
    Also... I've lived like... 30 minutes from this place my WHOLE LIFE, and I NEVER knew it existed... lol.

    • @kennyraynor3008
      @kennyraynor3008 Місяць тому +1

      Ditto. I used to live down in Anne Arundel Co. ...Down off of FT Smallwood ( another Fort neglected near FT Armistead and FT Carroll. ) there was a Nike site that my Father saw them removing the missles and now it'd a big Golf course and housing community right there. Lol. The Democrats let a lot of the historic sites go to shit like the rest of the city. Yet keep putting them in office. Mind-boggling

  • @TheSometimesBuilds
    @TheSometimesBuilds Місяць тому +13

    Very nice video, great editing! Would love to see more of these with local history!
    -Mike

  • @kaburgess69
    @kaburgess69 Місяць тому +3

    We had a fairly large Nike site N-85 in Newport News, Va. When I was a teenager, we would ride our BMXs and go hang out in the empty bunkers.

  • @user-hc5of8xk3r
    @user-hc5of8xk3r Місяць тому +12

    Better get these reopened and set up, may need them sooner than we think.
    🇺🇸

  • @fubar2231
    @fubar2231 28 днів тому +1

    I grew up in reisterstown, went to Franklin high, and remember my grandfather and uncles talking about these bases. Crazy!!(

  • @emangarrison
    @emangarrison 28 днів тому +2

    This is an amazing piece of history. I worked for several years in the 80s at Ft. Meade, MD where I saw a Nike missile on display at the museum on base. I never knew of their history of being deployed in the Baltimore/Washington area.

  • @doinkstankhammer987
    @doinkstankhammer987 Місяць тому +5

    There was one in Phoenix, Baltimore county parks school buses there now. BA-03

  • @Firefyta2
    @Firefyta2 Місяць тому +9

    79 is in Granite, Maryland with 2 properties. What most don't know is that the Hercules missile stationed there were Nuclear Tipped.

    • @veritas6466
      @veritas6466 Місяць тому +2

      @@Firefyta2 I learned how to drive on those back roads. It’s been many years but as I recall one of the roads near there was nicknamed seven steps and water in one of the streams appears to go uphill.

    • @swamprat2
      @swamprat2 29 днів тому

      I assumed that most/all of these facilities had some nuclear munitions for the missiles. Is that inaccurate?

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor 29 днів тому

      @@veritas6466 Outside Ellicott City are roads we always called Seven Hills, and that was because you could catch "air" at the summit of them if you had enough speed in your car.
      Additionally there is a "gravity hill" not far away, and something people called Crybaby Bridge.
      Someone said that the dead babies were the ones pushing your car up the hill, but the idea was you'd be in neutral there at midnight or something like that.
      I'm assuming we're speaking of the same place as Granite is very near this course.
      Also the gravity hill is mentioned in the book Weird Maryland.

    • @veritas6466
      @veritas6466 29 днів тому

      @@drownthepoor *Yes to every bit. I heard the same story from my newly licensed older brother as we drove all those spots some 45 years ago.

    • @veritas6466
      @veritas6466 29 днів тому

      @@drownthepoor “Weird Maryland”, As a fan of MD history, I look forward to giving that a read. * Thx

  • @KennethAGrimm
    @KennethAGrimm Місяць тому +1

    I remember when BA-79 in Granite was active, it was one of our favorite drive-by sights when we were children. The BA-92 Nike location in Chestnut Ridge (Cronhardt) gave an even closer view of these missiles, with the main highway passing between the secure launch site and the base administration building. As a volunteer fireman in the company covering this base, my father was given safety tours of classified areas of BA-92; it appears they re-activated his WWII clearance for these tours. W-92, W-93, and W-94 were also within our occasional drive-by viewing range.

  • @theociba3762
    @theociba3762 Місяць тому +3

    Great overview - we had two such bases in Western PA, though I wasn’t aware of it at the time. I love seeing their layout; thanks for putting this together.

    • @InnocentPotato-pd7wi
      @InnocentPotato-pd7wi 27 днів тому

      Yes, I believe one of those sites was in South Park, Bethel Park, PA! My brother mentioned seeing some concrete caps in that park!

  • @pepawg2281
    @pepawg2281 Місяць тому +1

    My father worked for the Civil Defense service back in the late 50s and early 60s. He knew where all the sites were in the DC /BALT area.

  • @swamprat2
    @swamprat2 29 днів тому +2

    So when I saw the title, I was like, "Yeah this is Granite and it's hardly top secret" and was pretty skeptical to see the video. ( I grew up around several identical facilities in VA and I know this site as well, having worked on the (once) farm next door). But holy crap, this is a great video and you got fantastic access and the footage is really freaking great. Glad I stumbled on it....great work! Subscribed!

  • @VenusUrsa
    @VenusUrsa Місяць тому +1

    Serious Day Of The Dead vibes there.

  • @WeldonHunter
    @WeldonHunter Місяць тому +5

    My family has lived in that area since about 1820. Both of my 5th great grandparents, John Cavey and William Knight lived almost straight across the road from where this site is today starting in the 1820s and some of their descendants, my cousins, still live there today. The Blair Witch house aka as the Griggs house was located just down the road from there also. Another fun fact, The Jesuit Seminary aka Woodstock College built in 1868 is just down the road and was mentioned in the original Exorcist movie when the priest's were debating on who to send to do the exorcism. When one asked "Where is father Merrin?" and the other answered "He's at Woodstock" this is the seminary they were referring too.

    • @johns9652
      @johns9652 Місяць тому +3

      That's kinda funny, I always thought it was a reference to the famous concert site in NY and wondered why a priest would go there. I don't remember how old I was when I saw the original, probably younger than I shoulda. I'd have to guess maybe 12, around 83 or so, when it was a rerun on TV. I grew up in Frederick County and at that time had no idea Woodstock/Granite MD existed. Once I moved to the Randallstown area, never made that connection.

    • @haha-kq6rz
      @haha-kq6rz Місяць тому +2

      Blair Witch House is now just a hole in the ground.

    • @mt_vu_rx_jukeboxhero
      @mt_vu_rx_jukeboxhero 28 днів тому +1

      I watched the Blair Witch . Then later I went to Grandma's. She had told me before then the subject came up again . I didn't have anything to do with the movie … she just reminded me again , she was from Burkettsville.

    • @WeldonHunter
      @WeldonHunter 25 днів тому

      @@haha-kq6rz Yeah like a lot of the old houses in that area it was abandoned and was being cannibalized by fans of the movie. A lot of the old abandoned houses end up being burned by arsonist. A lot of my families old home places had this happen over the years.

    • @WeldonHunter
      @WeldonHunter 25 днів тому

      @@mt_vu_rx_jukeboxhero I bought the movie on DVD, bought it because of the family connection to the area this house was but it the story does take place in Burkittsville which is west of Frederick, and not Woodstock/Granite. That house was just a shooting location from what I understand.

  • @rael5469
    @rael5469 Місяць тому +3

    I wish I could give more than one like to this great video. Well done sir.

  • @JokerSierra
    @JokerSierra 25 днів тому

    I knew the Reeds from when I was a cadet at Carroll Squadron. What a trip down nostalgia lane. Thank you for doing such a fantastic job of recounting the history at the HQ!

  • @mmi16
    @mmi16 25 днів тому

    As a kid in the late 50's I went to school in Catonsville - the 'word' was that there was an air defense site in Catonsville - just West of what became the Baltimore Beltway (I-695).

  • @phil159
    @phil159 29 днів тому +1

    I live near BA-03, They tore down the old barracks a few years ago. Those NIKE missles used some really nasty chemicals for their liquid fuel. Contaiminated the water supply. See the size and weight diffrence between a titan ICBM and a minuteman with the switch to solid rocket fuel.

  • @robquillen1428
    @robquillen1428 Місяць тому +3

    Just a couple miles from where I grew up. I certainly remember it.

  • @stecar9122003
    @stecar9122003 28 днів тому +1

    I found this to be very interesting especially for living a few miles away from Aberdeen Proving Grounds where there were many times that I could hear them shooting tanks and other things making seem like there's a battle or war going on. I never knew that they had these types of missiles located in Maryland. Thanks for sharing your video sir.

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  11 днів тому

      Thanks and I'm glad you enjoyed it! I believe they'll be open this weekend for tours! mdwg.cap.gov/nike-missile-restoration-project

  • @Rumnhammer
    @Rumnhammer 27 днів тому

    I live about 3 miles from this base, and when I first moved into my house in 2001, they still had the buildings and radar dishes at the site 3/4 of a mile south just off Old court rd. All that was removed around 2004? or so. I didn't know that the CAP had made so much progress and I would love to go tour the site.

  • @ddds-ys4xv
    @ddds-ys4xv Місяць тому +3

    Great video , well done my friend . I look forward to seeing your channel grow . Can't wait for more videos . Very interesting .

  • @RicArmstrong
    @RicArmstrong Місяць тому +2

    There was a Nike missile site in Pasadena Maryland and another near Gaithersburg Maryland. I remember as a kid in the ealy 80's they were still active.

    • @Trees301
      @Trees301 Місяць тому +1

      I went to the one in Gaithersburg growing up. Its off Snouffer School RD. They turned it into a park. I grew up there in Montgomery Village.

    • @ShenandoahShelty
      @ShenandoahShelty Місяць тому +3

      A fellow I worked with years ago served in the one in Gaithersburg. I lived in Montgomery County for years, but I never even knew they existed until he told me about it.

  • @ljmorris6496
    @ljmorris6496 Місяць тому +3

    Didn't know this existed in MD, thanks..

  • @chrishoughton9306
    @chrishoughton9306 29 днів тому +3

    First time viewer, lifetime subscriber, love the format, thanks bro!

  • @DrComm63
    @DrComm63 Місяць тому

    I too was a Civil Air Patrol member. I was part of the Gunpowder Composite Squadron. Our squadron met at the old Nike site off of Mt Vista road in Baltimore County

  • @jimorr820
    @jimorr820 Місяць тому +1

    The Nike site near Pittsburgh was a local tourist site. As a kid we drove past it a couple of times and could see the missiles on their launchers. Hardly top secret

  • @fademusic1980
    @fademusic1980 29 днів тому

    hello fellow former MD wing cadet! I was B-CC composite squadron for 5 years. Got my solo wings, GT-1, and made master chief! Was a whole lot of fun and served me well when I went on to serve in the navy (of all places)

  • @chrisw4665
    @chrisw4665 28 днів тому

    I live by BA 03, and in the 90s, we actually had built a maze in one of the silos to train firefighters. Pitch black and confined. One of the best training props in the state. Last I heard the silo we used was flooded by superstorm sandy. Approx 2 million gallons of water in there now. Don't know the status of the other two silos on the lot

  • @catherinemckeon8414
    @catherinemckeon8414 27 днів тому

    When I lived in Baltimore there was a road sign on the edge of my neighborhood " Baltimore, a nonnuclear zone". I always wondered about it. Now I suppose because it was as you crossed the city/county line, it made quite a difference.

  • @allencouncell4468
    @allencouncell4468 Місяць тому +1

    There is an old base on the Eastern Shore between Chestertown and Rock Hall Maryland.

  • @Redwhiteblue-gr5em
    @Redwhiteblue-gr5em Місяць тому

    It was so cool living in the US during the height of the Cold War. Especially if you were an Air Force brat like me. Missiles and jets were part of our everyday life.

  • @JimDog794
    @JimDog794 Місяць тому +2

    I remember the one on RT 50 just before the Bay Bridge on the left side of the road heading eastbound. We used to pass it going to Sandy Point and Ocean City.

    • @jeffo1108
      @jeffo1108 29 днів тому +1

      Lived next to it and my bus stop, while in junior HS, was at the front gate. In the 80s it was a part of the David Taylor Naval Research Center but rarely had any activity in there. The Nike site in Davidsonville was turned over to Anne Arundel County in, I believe 1974. It became the location of their police academy. The original army buildings were used up until '20 or 21 when a new main building was constructed.

    • @ericcub78
      @ericcub78 22 дні тому +1

      I grew up not too far from that one.

    • @ericcub78
      @ericcub78 22 дні тому

      @@jeffo1108 I grew up close to this site too, we were probably neighbors.

  • @bradenwoods1111
    @bradenwoods1111 Місяць тому +17

    Super cool tour! I didnt know about these missle sites at all

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! I'm glad I could share some local history!

    • @johns9652
      @johns9652 Місяць тому +1

      Hell I went to Randallstown High School, and had no idea this existed. Then again, I was born in the 70s, I woulda been a toddler when it was shut down if it was 74. Excellent camera work by the way, it was like you were floating up and down those stairs, do you practice walking really carefully, or was that drone footage, or what? I'm guessing drone, as you had the high shot of your vehicle.

    • @veritas6466
      @veritas6466 29 днів тому +1

      @@johns9652 We’re pretty close in age have RHS in common, which is interesting b/c driving: The “other” side of Offutt Rd/Woodstock-Granite & in the opposite direction past Deer Park/Soldiers Delight, across the bridges into Carrolltown, etc., all those back roads was all we wanted to do!

    • @johns9652
      @johns9652 29 днів тому

      @@veritas6466 Do you remember the pool hall in that area? Forget the name, but there was a 7-11 nearby on the road going south from Liberty Road, anyway, my friends and I used to go to that pool hall om RT 26.

  • @gd3515
    @gd3515 Місяць тому +3

    Great video. I had no idea they were in the Balt-DC area!

  • @ShenandoahShelty
    @ShenandoahShelty Місяць тому

    The ABM treaty was signed in 1972. I think that left DC as the only protected city by 73. I used to work with a fellow who served at the one in Gaithersburg when he was a kid. I grew up in Montgomery County, never know about it until he mentioned it one day.. Glad they're trying to preserve one.

  • @robertrobert7924
    @robertrobert7924 27 днів тому

    As a child and a soldier of the Cold War, I lived thru the Cold War in Baltimore and Washington, DC.
    US ARMY 1968-1971.

  • @travisswiger9213
    @travisswiger9213 26 днів тому

    Grew up in the Gaithersburg Maryland area and remember the site near Montgomery Village. I think it was recently redeveloped into a park. Thanks for sharing!

  • @a4realbrotha50
    @a4realbrotha50 17 днів тому

    i worked at RRMC (2003-06) and there was a hidden Nike Site in a water tower, it was flooded too, I had to get inside an take photos

  • @davidcoudriet8439
    @davidcoudriet8439 28 днів тому

    There was one directly across the street from where I live. My neighbor's home sits right in the middle of where it sat. In '60, it was sold to the developers that built my house.

  • @t.josephnkansah-mahaney7961
    @t.josephnkansah-mahaney7961 Місяць тому +1

    WOW! Now that I am in the B’more area I have another cool spot to explore!

  • @paulsolovyovsky1702
    @paulsolovyovsky1702 29 днів тому

    I live right next to BA-92, that was my kids bus stop and now a church

  • @hhaste
    @hhaste 19 днів тому

    I'm right near site BA-03, I pass by it all the time

  • @Spicydeluxecombo
    @Spicydeluxecombo Місяць тому

    I grew up near Radford, VA(live in Bmore now) and we still have a functioning armory there that makes warheads and they have a replica Nike missile at the front entrance at the security checkpoint.

  • @batya7
    @batya7 25 днів тому

    spooky music gave me chills.

  • @Dave-in-MD
    @Dave-in-MD 27 днів тому

    I cant find it any more but there was a very good book called Rings Of Steel that was all about the various Nike Hercules missile sites. My dad was stationed at one in Alaska back in the early 60's.

  • @ypdave01
    @ypdave01 Місяць тому

    A Nike Site Integrated Fire Control Area could support up to 4 Launcher Sections. The 6 magazines shown here tell me BA-79 was a dual IFC site. Two complete sets of radars and director electronics. I was at NY56 on Sandy Hook NJ. We were the LAST dual site to close. We shared our 4 Launching Sections between the two IFC's.

  • @pastorjerrykliner3162
    @pastorjerrykliner3162 29 днів тому

    My first parish call was in a small, rural town in Indiana, just outside of Cincinnati, OH... We had an abandoned Nike base just outside the town limits.

  • @pat6429
    @pat6429 Місяць тому +3

    I'm glad you're back. You do a great job.

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  Місяць тому

      Happy to be back behind the camera again!

  • @g-mang-man7924
    @g-mang-man7924 27 днів тому

    3:12 I grew up in Arnold, just 2 miles from the base in Skidmore. Off of Rt 50/301 just before Chesapeake Bay Bridge. Visited many times. Now gone, area can be seen off of Bay Head road

  • @c.c.1070
    @c.c.1070 Місяць тому +1

    We still have an ICBM missile site that’s currently active and hidden very nonchalantly to those that aren’t from here. When you first cross into Essex from Dundalk, you’ll notice two “golden egg like” structures that have been built around the two ICBMS!

    • @baysideauto
      @baysideauto 29 днів тому

      No way , really I'm in Dundalk, and never heard that before, how or where did that info come from. I have friends who work at the crap plant and never said anything like that

    • @c.c.1070
      @c.c.1070 29 днів тому

      @@baysideauto God I hope this is sarcasm 😂

    • @baysideauto
      @baysideauto 29 днів тому +1

      @@c.c.1070 now I'm feeling stupid were you serious or joking, I know I'm from Dundalk 😂😂

    • @c.c.1070
      @c.c.1070 29 днів тому

      @@baysideauto 🤣 I was joking 🙃

    • @c.c.1070
      @c.c.1070 29 днів тому

      @@baysideauto I’d figure someone would know

  • @ericcub78
    @ericcub78 22 дні тому

    I grew up in the 80s about a half mile from Nike Missile Site W-26. Us kids knew it was a nike site but thought it was still in operation and thought if the Soviets attacked the USA would deploy missiles from there.

  • @drownthepoor
    @drownthepoor 29 днів тому

    Interesting. You've actually cleared up a local urban legend that has been repeated me by a few people all of my life.
    Here in Pasadena MD there is a shopping center with a large section of the parking lot that has height/weight barriers for heavy vehicles.
    People always claimed it housed hidden missile silos, hence the restriction of weight.
    The reality is that there is an underground aquifer beneath the parking lot, but the rumors persisted.
    However on your map is site BA-43, and that's Green Haven area located about a mile from the parking lot as the crow flies if I had to guess.

    • @veritas6466
      @veritas6466 29 днів тому +1

      @@drownthepoorMaybe,”Mars” was a cover code name for the secret missile site. Never much liked that place.

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor 29 днів тому

      ​@@veritas6466 Interesting. I wonder if we're talking about the same place? Because the parking lot with the restrcted weight is at BJ's, and the other parking lot at the other end is now a Walmart. But it used to be an Ames, and it sat vacant for years yet they would plow the parking lot.
      I asked someone if there was ever a Mars there, and they said they don't think so.
      But they said there was a Mars over towards Green Haven.

    • @veritas6466
      @veritas6466 28 днів тому

      @@drownthepoor My bad. I know where you mean now.

  • @4775willy
    @4775willy 29 днів тому

    I always knew DC had a “iron dome” if you will. Never knew it would surround Baltimore too.

  • @ronz101
    @ronz101 Місяць тому

    I remember two more in the Baltimore suburbs. An anti aircraft site off Moore Avenue/Oakleigh Road (Parkville)....where Parkway Crossing Shopping Center is today. Also 🚀🚀 along Golden Ring Road between Old Philadelphia Road, Route #7 (Rosedale) and Gen. Pulaski Highway, US Route #40 East.
    Not sure they were Top Secret though. In the 50's out of the way but visible to a curious kid and the general public.

    • @markkaminski2416
      @markkaminski2416 Місяць тому

      Growing up in the Mace Ave/ Golden Ring Rd area in the 50s-60s that area along the way railroad tracks was our regular stomping and exploration grounds. I knew the area well and was not aware of a missile site. Are there any additional details you could pass on. I'm very curious. Thanks

    • @ronz101
      @ronz101 Місяць тому

      ​​@@markkaminski2416They used raise the NIKE missiles above ground occasionally for maintenance I suppose. That drew attention. Beyond that the sites disappeared overnight when ICBM's became a common delivery system. The guarded entry was on Golden Ring Road.

    • @KennethAGrimm
      @KennethAGrimm Місяць тому

      Where they were was not secret; they couldn't be hidden. (However, stopping on the road and pointing a camera seems to have been discouraged.) What was top secret was the interiors of the bunkers, and certain parts of the missiles (guidance wave-guides) when the protective covers were removed. The Army would send the missiles on transport truck to join in fireman's parades, but the tips of the fins would have big rubber covers on the wave-guides, and my father would only tell us the "Photographing that would give away secrets".

  • @wyhop6071
    @wyhop6071 28 днів тому

    I would have thought the underground bunker portions of this site would have been deeper and more reinforced. One of our modern bunker buster type bombs wouldn’t have much difficulty taking out these sites. Maybe that’s why they’re not currently being used for anything important?
    I also wouldn’t want to spend much time in the underground missile magazines today. They seem like they would be loaded with mold spores!
    Your vid was very interesting…I really enjoyed it!

  • @stevenjennings197
    @stevenjennings197 Місяць тому

    Got several here in Hampton Roads, VA. 1 was turned into a park, the other is on airport land and off limits.

  • @harryschaefer8563
    @harryschaefer8563 26 днів тому

    My Cub Scout Pack 81 visited the Nike Missile sight in Mahwah New Jersey. I remember collecting miniature toy missiles that came in some cereal boxes. I remember having a Nike, and an "Honest John" missile. The thought of getting nuked of course was pretty scary. Living 30 miles from NYC, I knew a 5 0 megaton Soviet bomb meant certain death. The Nike base even fed us, it was cool having food plunked down on a military mess tray. The food was pretty good too. Living through the "Cuban Missile Crisis" was scary. In the book "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump", one chapter was written by a psychologist whom I figured out went to my high school, because of the way he described the cool and calm way JFK handled the crisis (he sent his aides out to buy up all the H Upman cigars in Washington because he knew the next day he was going to prevent any more Soviet ship from arriving in Cuba. This psychologist described sitting in Mr. Capasso's History class wondering if he'd be alive the next day. I had Mr. Capasso as a history teacher too.

  • @frankelasavage2717
    @frankelasavage2717 26 днів тому

    Great video, Evan! Thanks for sharing this!! I had NO idea that was so close to Baltimore. I too was in Civil Air Patrol during the late 70's and early 80's! I was part of the Baltimore group, Star Trac Squadron and love it!!

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  11 днів тому +1

      Thank you! I was part of the Bowie Squadron in the early 00's!

  • @jbird976
    @jbird976 28 днів тому

    Those nike sites were f’ing EVERYWHERE. I live in Rhode Island and we even had some

  • @RustyX2010
    @RustyX2010 Місяць тому +1

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @ponz-
    @ponz- Місяць тому

    They had a NIKE missile system the next town over. It was way before my time but at a local air museum they have one. They are HUGE 😂. They legit are telephone poles with rockets strapped on them. I’m glad I was fortunate enough to see one in person thanks to the air museum. It’s different seeing them in person.

  • @macanthony1982
    @macanthony1982 29 днів тому +1

    Interesting stuff... the background music made it even more interesting... LOL

  • @themagus5906
    @themagus5906 Місяць тому

    Lots of these sites had their underground facilities filled in or flooded. Mostly the missile assembly areas or warhead prepping. In my neighborhood in New Jersey the local site, with its radar towers. admin buildings, and missile silos, have been long gone for 10 years or so. McMansions now.

  • @gkl5999
    @gkl5999 25 днів тому

    In Towson there was a missile silo where Raytheon Allied Radio building was, I believe the silo is still there but the missile tower has been tore down and the area built up.

  • @ericfan1223
    @ericfan1223 Місяць тому

    W-93 is still operational, and many rumors exist about the use as it is an active GSA and National guard post… it is said that all internet/fiber coming from NSA/FtMeade - Raven Rock - Pentagon - DC goes through here. Very cool. Love middle maryland

  • @ACF6180T
    @ACF6180T Місяць тому

    Pretty cool video. I remember back in the mid 70's we use to cruise some of the back roads around Lorton Va. & driving close to some of theses sites, & actually being able to see some of launch pads, & they were located between route 123, & I 95, & according to the map it was area W-64. Also I new of area W-74 but that area was more secluded, & not as visible. Thank you so much for video, & what these facilities housed + the history.

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 29 днів тому

    These were EVERYWHERE
    We had Top Secret Bases all over upstate NY and Vermont and I was there
    I saw the massive radomes and the missiles.
    To this day they are still classified despite not exiting

  • @DustinBowen1
    @DustinBowen1 28 днів тому +1

    The US was attacked by Great Britain on its own soil. Twice. They burned DC in the war of 1812.
    Mexico raided the US in the 1800s as well.
    The cold war was not the first time we faced risk of invasion by a longshot.

  • @Northern.Town.
    @Northern.Town. 28 днів тому

    Very interesting. I used to live near the Aberdeen Proving Ground and the history of the entire area is worth studying. I don't miss the loud noise and flash warnings though!

  • @BWItoATXF
    @BWItoATXF 29 днів тому

    I grew up in Windsor Mill. And frequented these backroads to get to Owings Mills/Randallstown. I had no idea this was back here. Thanks for this video!
    Does anyone know if this is at all associated with the old microwave towers that were close to Old Court Rd? Structure still stands, transmitters have been removed.

  • @TheCelltek
    @TheCelltek Місяць тому

    When I was in the Army and stationed at New Cumberland Army Depot, I swear I drove by a missile site off U.S. 30 in the early 1970's.

  • @sullyway51
    @sullyway51 Місяць тому

    When I heard him say "a Cold War relic" at the end it hit me....... I am now a Cold War Relic........

  • @chuckbronco6485
    @chuckbronco6485 28 днів тому

    It was used as a training maze for new firefighters late 1990's early 2000's also.

  • @user-di4bt7qu2i
    @user-di4bt7qu2i Місяць тому +2

    I had no idea. This is super interesting. Thanks for posting.

  • @mikeymdt
    @mikeymdt Місяць тому

    Royal Farms gives you all the salt you need!

  • @jaybob324
    @jaybob324 Місяць тому

    Anne Arundel County Police Academy is on a abandoned missile site

    • @testtesting2868
      @testtesting2868 28 днів тому +1

      They used the underground portion of the missile site for their defensive tactics training room and the top side for jogging, in the early 90s.

  • @charleschadwick8042
    @charleschadwick8042 28 днів тому

    Dr Strangelove made me worry and fear the bomb
    great subtitle for the film though...

  • @plnthrd
    @plnthrd 28 днів тому

    You are missing a few in Northern Baltimore County one was on Ridge Road between Falls Rd and Greenspring Ave. Another was in Jacksonville MD. The site on Ridge Rd was a super site after they closed down, but due to political influences and unsuspecting home buyers purchased properties on that site.

  • @haha-kq6rz
    @haha-kq6rz Місяць тому

    The missile site in Granite MD, was the location of the Police Training Commissions until they got their new building in Sykesville.

  • @mike-barnes
    @mike-barnes 27 днів тому

    I've been to the BA-30/31 sites many times and some that are not documented on the maps.

  • @reueljacques
    @reueljacques Місяць тому

    Professional and very well narrated video, should get more subscribers!!!

  • @stefanschleps8758
    @stefanschleps8758 Місяць тому

    How deep were the C&C rooms? And what sort of protection from attack did they have?

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby666 Місяць тому

    I wished people when speaking about the cold war. Would show the underground shelters for kids in school.
    To give the kids of today an understanding of how close we were to an actual nuclear war compared to today.

  • @Sonic357
    @Sonic357 Місяць тому

    Wow, I used to be in the Civil Air Patrol. I was a cadet airmen back then 😁 that kinda looks familiar but I don't remember really if we tourd it or no not sure. Nice video

    • @dvmphd
      @dvmphd Місяць тому

      You likely visited the Nike Ajax missile site in Kingsville, MD near Fork, MD (it's now in private hands) - the CAP Gunpowder Composite Squadron occupied this site in the late 1970s and you may have visited during one of it's Class B encampments...

  • @johnatyoutube
    @johnatyoutube 26 днів тому

    There's also one on Ft. Smallwood Rd in Pasadena next to the Compass Pointe golf course which is now a county facilities center. It's on what's now called Nike Rd. which is pretty obvious. It's sad that they haven't figured out how to repurpose the one you visited. It's useful as a museum if it's open to the public.

    • @SalvageArc
      @SalvageArc  11 днів тому +1

      This site is open to the public - mdwg.cap.gov/nike-missile-restoration-project

  • @billiamc1969
    @billiamc1969 29 днів тому

    I keep bees out in that area...LOL

  • @H8ZE
    @H8ZE 27 днів тому

    Interesting and informative video I remember the one on fort smallwood rd. It’s now a golf course and houses.

  • @martinsharp4430
    @martinsharp4430 24 дні тому

    The one Near Pasadena Md is close to Compass Point Golf Course and AAco school Office