@@KenSmithFishing no, the email exchange we had. The Z520L is still loving the tempest. 👍🏻 can’t wait to hear about how the lynx runs. May need to look at one down the road. Great series, learning a lot. Have to try the jack plate “sweet spot” method he described.
Ken, you’re doing an excellent job asking the right ppl the right questions. You should do a detailed video setting up your new boat. Prop/jack plate/distance to pad etc etc. It would be interesting to see how different props perform on your specific hull.
I am close to Fond du Lac and will volunteer my Bass Cat Cougar FTD w/ Merc 250 ProXS to demonstrate with the assistance of Nick or his team on how different props effect the boat and it's performance. I will load the boat as they want it or I can empty it and they can weight it down themselves.
@@KenSmithFishing swing over to the basscat owner group on Facebook. Great group of people, and most are more than willing to help each other out. I had multiple people offer to loan me props to test when I got my P4.
C'mon man! It was getting good, then it was over. 😆 In that scenario where speed increased when the motor was raised even though slip went up: the factor not recognized is drag. Drag in air is preferred over drag in water. Any change that reduces wetted surface area (hull or lower unit) has the potential to offer an increase in speed even though thrust efficiency may have worsened slightly. This is the same phenomenon as an aircraft going faster at a higher altitude even though the engine is making less horsepower and the prop's "bite" into thin air is lower. The gains from reduced drag outweigh the loss in effective thrust, so the plane goes faster even though delivered thrust decreased. The same applies to boats, just with a different "fluid".
The X7 alloy takes extreme heat to bend, smokes a lot and heats a small radius when trying to manipulate in prop shops. It is definitely a different type component. Tuff.. 20 bullet with 280 would run 96 gps using Yamaha 28 pro ( 1st edition) 12' set back.( this was for fishing) set back with Detweiler was maybe 12 -14 1994 Procraft Super Pro 20 with 225 Promax 84 MPH 2 people light tackle 25 gal. 28 P Yamaha pro ( fishing set up) Paralift 1994 Procraft Super Pro 20 with 280 drag 92 MPH 2 people light tackle 25 gal. 28 P Yamaha pro ( fishing set up) Para lift "Triton boats had jack plate extension redrilled to match Bullet transom angle" Triton Tr20 1998-2000 225 Merc Promax 83 MPH light load ( both DC and SC) Yamaha Pro set back with Detweiler was maybe 12 -14 Triton Tr 20 2001 Rude 225 H.O. BRAVO I FS OFFSHORE 15 " 30 p 83 mph driver tackle 1/2 tank fuel Atlas 12- 14. 2006 Triton Tr X 21 250 Pro XS 26 Fury (Stock) full tournament load 4 batters , ultrex etc... 73-74. 10" set back Atlas (this is for the big water no need to hammer on speed) Allison doesn't count..lol.. FYI.. Personally what I do and do not advised because of the risk. All use full tilt to get up, WOT raise JP till water pressure drops or RPM runs up, speed drops, touch lower trim to decrease angle if needed , watch speed, bring motor down to watch MPH. Adjust accordingly. This is on the edge. Boat can loose prop and hook. No need in tourney start/take off until some what clear. Not recommended for long runs on heavy bass boats with Merc Sportsmaster case. Gear case may over heat ( hurt seal) if use on long runs. ( so I m told I don't do anymore). I have sheard 4 counter -spun Merc Sportsmaster shafts , before the new larger design running heavy loads all out. Like he said in video . I prefer 4 blades, I go up 2" in pitch to off set slip and it carries the boast very nicely. Just my personal contribution of my own experience over the years. The Yamaha blade at that time was verified to me personally with the writer of Bass and Walleye Magazine in a conversation at the Bassmasters Classic of New Orleans. Technology has since improved.
I currently have a 2002 Procraft 200 Super Pro with a Mercury Racing Pro XS 200 and 25P Tempest prop. I would like a better holeshot and am considering a 4 blade such as a trophy plus. What are your thoughts on a new prop?
@@AHAUGHT is your boat set up for max performance? Jack plate? Do you carry 24volt troll with 2 batteries and 1 starter Or 3 batteries with 1 starter?Do you load it up with tournament load, passenger and with fuel? The 25 P Trophy ? Have you tried different bleed holes for hole shot? Trophy was a good standard prop, carried pretty good.Maybe too much for a 200 and full weight. That hull design is not the same as the one I mentioned. That 2002 year and later were more like todays Legends.The 1994-1996 ProCraft Super Pro was a Bullet pad/Allison V/Rocket air sponson design. ex: img.scgpix.com/listimg/img1_0416/13/img_5SnOwrsu6N.jpg, images1.showmethead.com/nlarge/6_000_1994_super_pro_200_procraft_23110888.jpg You will have to try props,, Sorry I never ran your hull. When you hit the rev limiter you prop up so RPM will stay 200 rpm "below" redline @ WOT. Summer is slower you will use less prop and winter you will need more pitch. You may see videos of your boat on youtube.You have a very desirable 2.5 Merc for Allison guys . It has no low end torque to speak of.It has better than 200 HP though.God luck.
Phillip, look at how they rate, when I looked Spark had 4 complaints in the last 6 months, TXU had 91 complaints, and they were rated excellent.....think you are looking at marketing payments
Yup Iv had 3 Fury props brake on me
Great video and really enjoyed the 16:02 mark :) ...the bow lift with the tempest is fantastic!
you talking about the UFO that goes through the frame?
@@KenSmithFishing no, the email exchange we had. The Z520L is still loving the tempest. 👍🏻 can’t wait to hear about how the lynx runs. May need to look at one down the road. Great series, learning a lot. Have to try the jack plate “sweet spot” method he described.
Ken, you’re doing an excellent job asking the right ppl the right questions. You should do a detailed video setting up your new boat. Prop/jack plate/distance to pad etc etc. It would be interesting to see how different props perform on your specific hull.
Great idea!
Awesome video! Looking forward to some more! Such a confusing topic for a lot of us.
More to come!
I am close to Fond du Lac and will volunteer my Bass Cat Cougar FTD w/ Merc 250 ProXS to demonstrate with the assistance of Nick or his team on how different props effect the boat and it's performance. I will load the boat as they want it or I can empty it and they can weight it down themselves.
now THAT sounds like a fun side gig!
Great Series Ken! Keep’em coming! I absolutely learned quite a bit from these.
Thanks, will do!
This will be a great series, thank you Ken!
Glad you think so!
Great vid looking forward to the next one as well.
Coming soon!
Where is the rest of the video? Man it was getting juicy.
I’ll get it up soon!
@@KenSmithFishing your killing me lol you sure know when to stop a video. Just got through watching the Rick video now this. Lol
So when do we get to see the new Lynx on the water.
More soon I hope, still adjusting to life with a 2 month old added to the clan
This is complicated but every prop video makes it a little clearer
Good, remember I still am going to talk to Gary from Mercury props in a few weeks if you still have questions.
What prop are you using on your Lynx?
started with a Fury 3 24p, but going to do some experimenting.
Have you started testing props on the new Lynx yet?
Not yet, with the new baby haven't really had the time yet and props are pretty difficult to find right now
@@KenSmithFishing swing over to the basscat owner group on Facebook. Great group of people, and most are more than willing to help each other out. I had multiple people offer to loan me props to test when I got my P4.
Dang Ken! You tease!
Just when it was getting good you cut it. It’s like watching an episode of “Lost”...
FYI watch out for the man in black at the end...
@@KenSmithFishing 😂
Sorry, a 3:40 introduction with an added plug made me turn off the video.
WAAYYY to short video. Let's really pick these guys brains why you have them. Please lengthen out the time with these experts.
Stick around Mike more to come
Awesome 👌🆒️!!! Good info
thanks Devon
C'mon man! It was getting good, then it was over. 😆 In that scenario where speed increased when the motor was raised even though slip went up: the factor not recognized is drag. Drag in air is preferred over drag in water. Any change that reduces wetted surface area (hull or lower unit) has the potential to offer an increase in speed even though thrust efficiency may have worsened slightly. This is the same phenomenon as an aircraft going faster at a higher altitude even though the engine is making less horsepower and the prop's "bite" into thin air is lower. The gains from reduced drag outweigh the loss in effective thrust, so the plane goes faster even though delivered thrust decreased. The same applies to boats, just with a different "fluid".
Walton correct, you'd rather fight the air than the water
My Clever prop is sharp as a razor
George what boat and motor do you run a cleaver on?
The X7 alloy takes extreme heat to bend, smokes a lot and heats a small radius when trying to manipulate in prop shops. It is definitely a different type component. Tuff..
20 bullet with 280 would run 96 gps using Yamaha 28 pro ( 1st edition) 12' set back.( this was for fishing) set back with Detweiler was maybe 12 -14
1994 Procraft Super Pro 20 with 225 Promax 84 MPH 2 people light tackle 25 gal. 28 P Yamaha pro ( fishing set up) Paralift
1994 Procraft Super Pro 20 with 280 drag 92 MPH 2 people light tackle 25 gal. 28 P Yamaha pro ( fishing set up) Para lift
"Triton boats had jack plate extension redrilled to match Bullet transom angle"
Triton Tr20 1998-2000 225 Merc Promax 83 MPH light load ( both DC and SC) Yamaha Pro set back with Detweiler was maybe 12 -14
Triton Tr 20 2001 Rude 225 H.O. BRAVO I FS OFFSHORE 15 " 30 p 83 mph driver tackle 1/2 tank fuel Atlas 12- 14.
2006 Triton Tr X 21 250 Pro XS 26 Fury (Stock) full tournament load 4 batters , ultrex etc... 73-74. 10" set back Atlas (this is for the big water no need to hammer on speed)
Allison doesn't count..lol..
FYI.. Personally what I do and do not advised because of the risk. All use full tilt to get up, WOT raise JP till water pressure drops or RPM runs up, speed drops, touch lower trim to decrease angle if needed , watch speed, bring motor down to watch MPH. Adjust accordingly. This is on the edge. Boat can loose prop and hook. No need in tourney start/take off until some what clear.
Not recommended for long runs on heavy bass boats with Merc Sportsmaster case. Gear case may over heat ( hurt seal) if use on long runs. ( so I m told I don't do anymore).
I have sheard 4 counter -spun Merc Sportsmaster shafts , before the new larger design running heavy loads all out.
Like he said in video . I prefer 4 blades, I go up 2" in pitch to off set slip and it carries the boast very nicely.
Just my personal contribution of my own experience over the years. The Yamaha blade at that time was verified to me personally with the writer of Bass and Walleye Magazine in a conversation at the Bassmasters Classic of New Orleans. Technology has since improved.
I currently have a 2002 Procraft 200 Super Pro with a Mercury Racing Pro XS 200 and 25P Tempest prop. I would like a better holeshot and am considering a 4 blade such as a trophy plus. What are your thoughts on a new prop?
@@AHAUGHT is your boat set up for max performance? Jack plate? Do you carry 24volt troll with 2 batteries and 1 starter Or 3 batteries with 1 starter?Do you load it up with tournament load, passenger and with fuel? The 25 P Trophy ? Have you tried different bleed holes for hole shot? Trophy was a good standard prop, carried pretty good.Maybe too much for a 200 and full weight. That hull design is not the same as the one I mentioned. That 2002 year and later were more like todays Legends.The 1994-1996 ProCraft Super Pro was a Bullet pad/Allison V/Rocket air sponson design. ex: img.scgpix.com/listimg/img1_0416/13/img_5SnOwrsu6N.jpg, images1.showmethead.com/nlarge/6_000_1994_super_pro_200_procraft_23110888.jpg
You will have to try props,, Sorry I never ran your hull. When you hit the rev limiter you prop up so RPM will stay 200 rpm "below" redline @ WOT. Summer is slower you will use less prop and winter you will need more pitch. You may see videos of your boat on youtube.You have a very desirable 2.5 Merc for Allison guys . It has no low end torque to speak of.It has better than 200 HP though.God luck.
Good stuff right there, thanks for the add!
Spark energy is rated terrible in Houston look for yourself
Phillip, look at how they rate, when I looked Spark had 4 complaints in the last 6 months, TXU had 91 complaints, and they were rated excellent.....think you are looking at marketing payments