In many jurisdictions it is required to use a patch plug but, patching from the inside is definitely better than simply inserting a plug. I've gotten to the point of using plugs on polyply tires of scooters and mopeds because the removal and remounting is not worth the time unless I'm actually going to replace the tire. Primarily because the tires don't last more than 6k miles anyway. Thanks for the video
I know they're supposed to be a temporary fix, but I've used plugs several times over the years and every time it's lasted the remaining life of the tire. one time was only a few months after I got brand new tires and the plug still held for a couple years.. however if you have the proper equipment and can use a patch it's definitely the better solution lol.
At my work i do this close to the same way but during the process we are supposed to Reem out the hole 3 time's inside then outside with a attachment to remove any loose particles in the hole / area.
That’s great..the only problem is having to the take the tire off the rim which I don’t have the right tool ta take it off easily and if I try to take off with some tools it’s gonna be a hell of work ..so probably I’m gonna go for an used one since I’m selling it soon
Plug patches are the only patch considered truly permanent. This is a half measure, will probably hold up fine in most cases but I had one blow and shredded the tire instantly. Never again.
Nice I just need all the tools to remove my tire and reinstall it possibly a rebalancers or I might look into balance beads I saw it on the Tire Doc's channel. 😅
Almost, you Gotta repair the wound channel or the water intrusion will corroded the steel belts and cause a belt separation. Use a plug patch. Or a plug first then a patch, but this is not the right way. 40 years a mechanic, 7 years automotive instructor and Airframe power planet mechanic.
I had a nail in my tire after owning my 2023 Kia Soul for only 4 days. The dealer wanted $30 to repair it. I bought a Slime plug kit and did it myself for $11.
No, it is not necessary with the style of patch I used. The style of patch I used has a beveled/raised center that accommodates for the absence of the previous tread. They do however make various types and styles of patches, and many that do fill said hole that you mentioned.
@@TheMontagGarage Exactly. You use a rotary reamer or hand one and make the hole larger at the end put glue on the reamer and work it into the rubber. The the plug.
@@TheMontagGarageyou use a drill bit to make it slightly bigger, you apply vulcanizing cement before putting a plug through and sanding the inside before putting a patch on top of the sanded plug and apply rubber cement after and never had a problem when I worked at Firestone or Costco
Nah screw that. I’ve never had a rope plug fail, and never heard of anyone else having them fail either. Plus not only do you not have to remove the tire you don’t even have to Jack up the car! 😂 Don’t believe that this is the “only proper way” to fix a tire. It’s just the only thing the DOT and mechanics allow
It's one of those things where a string plug is _probably_ good enough, but for a few bucks I can have a lot more confidence in it. Honestly, I've DQed two mechanics because they suggested leaving the string plug alone when I went in specifically to get a permanent patch-plug. EDIT: Before anybody tries to come at me for hiring a shop to do it, yeah, I want a shop to do it because I'm disabled and it was difficult enough for me to get the string plug in and I can hardly hump serious shop equipment around.
@@Nupetiet Sure, if you're a mechanic and some specifically asks for it then do it. But rope plugs are perfectly fine for DIY. Everyone saying to use Tire patches only probably torques their plastic engine covers to spec.
Thanks for the helpful vid. What size plug/patch would you say is your most used for passenger vehicles? 3mm, 4mm, 6mm? I’m looking to buy a mushroom “plug/patch” kit and not sure what size to order. Thank you for your time.
@@TheMontagGarage if you have standard lay person equipment, you would be a fool to waste your time and half or an entire day patching when you've already plugged it
@@TheMontagGarage I'm referring to myself and others who get a flat tire and plug it themselves. A half day might not do it, I'm not even sure that myself or the average person have the means to get the tire off of the rim with it intact
No bud remove the nail it will puncture again. If it hits a bump you can cause penetration. Do not leave it in my hand never ever. I’m not a tire guy but it’s common sense
Can the tire be taken off with perhaps just a crowbar or something after tire has been deflated? Like, methodically... I don’t have the machine that does it for you.
@@TheMontagGarage Heck yea. I’m going to start learning the patching process alone. I’ve always had somebody patch me. But, I need to be able to do this.
Hers a easy at home way, Pull off tire, put 2 lug nuts back on so rotor does not move alot and simply let rotor down on bead, if u need more depth to push bead use a block of wood etc. I've done this more times than I can recall.
@@TheMontagGarage I mean I'm not arguing with you or anything I was just kinda expecting a better reason lol. As long as it works I suppose it doesn't matter how it's done.
Also, I'm using this Slime Tire Patch Kit to patch a cat-generated slit in an air mattress; any special instructions if using this patch kit for that? Thanks so much for your walk through! Was expecting to find one by Slime. You're awesome!
That sealant you used last I had repaired a tire once for a dealership and my boss saw me apply that and he said “if I knew who showed you that I would fire him” I thought he was playing but he was serious what’s y’all’s thoughts?
I'm concerned to know what kind of glue(vulcanizing cement) stands up to being burnt? Most plastics and petroleum products are rendered once lit. I mean it's not a matter of waiting if you are in most shops. There is usually enough to do if you apply a thin enough layer.
Safety seal plugs and tools. No need to take the tire off. All of this is unnecessary as long as the leak is in the tread and not in the side wall. Slime plugs are garbage.
In many jurisdictions it is required to use a patch plug but, patching from the inside is definitely better than simply inserting a plug.
I've gotten to the point of using plugs on polyply tires of scooters and mopeds because the removal and remounting is not worth the time unless I'm actually going to replace the tire. Primarily because the tires don't last more than 6k miles anyway.
Thanks for the video
I love patching tires. One of those weird things I like doing. I like the rolling part.
I feel that it’s an unfortunate treasure hunt, I take them out into the sunlight away from where I’m working and hose them in soapy water
I agree, used to work at a tire shop and the smell of the glue is still fresh in my head
If you like the rolling part you should try installing sound deadener in a car lol
The rolling part is actually the only part that touches the road. And if that changes? You probably shouldve had better rolling parts.
@@yourfriendcasey613 No all wrong. The nails actually grow from the rolling part. Your picking cherries, brother.
My 10,000 mile bacon strip just entered the chat
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I've used probably about 10 or more tire plugs and yet to have a single issue. Yes this way is better but I'll still do what I can do myself
I know they're supposed to be a temporary fix, but I've used plugs several times over the years and every time it's lasted the remaining life of the tire. one time was only a few months after I got brand new tires and the plug still held for a couple years.. however if you have the proper equipment and can use a patch it's definitely the better solution lol.
I’ve had the same with the last 4 patches from Discount Tire.
Oh yeah, let me pull over on the side of the freeway and do all this....i get it though.
@ShawalValley-eq1dj
Lol and I said I get it though.
At my work i do this close to the same way but during the process we are supposed to Reem out the hole 3 time's inside then outside with a attachment to remove any loose particles in the hole / area.
Normally on a bigger hole I would, but this one in particular was a small Guage nail
@@TheMontagGarage understandable, everywhere is different. So far i do it for any hole size
@@caseyseegert4770
My preference as well. Better sealing and a lot sturdier.
People would do it the right way if they have the machine and "money". But many people like to do it the fast and cheap way cause its easy and simple.
Plugs work but have a much higher failure rate.
Rock on brother, thanks for the great post!!!
That’s great..the only problem is having to the take the tire off the rim which I don’t have the right tool ta take it off easily and if I try to take off with some tools it’s gonna be a hell of work ..so probably I’m gonna go for an used one since I’m selling it soon
Plug patches are the only patch considered truly permanent. This is a half measure, will probably hold up fine in most cases but I had one blow and shredded the tire instantly. Never again.
I do agree unless the pertrusion is miniscule then I don't believe it opening the hole more to allow a plug patch.
ok plug n patch
how about where the Side wall meets the tread
@@brianjones1346 buy a new tire
Great job 👏
Thankyou!
Nice I just need all the tools to remove my tire and reinstall it possibly a rebalancers or I might look into balance beads I saw it on the Tire Doc's channel. 😅
Almost, you Gotta repair the wound channel or the water intrusion will corroded the steel belts and cause a belt separation. Use a plug patch. Or a plug first then a patch, but this is not the right way. 40 years a mechanic, 7 years automotive instructor and Airframe power planet mechanic.
Never heard of or seen that happen. That said, I'd much rather a mushroom repair patch was used over just a patch.
@@skylined5534 absolutely, I can tell by the job that you did that you’ve done probably as many that I have. But technology Chanel
Industry standard is getting to be a (mushroom) patch plug. Many jurisdictions will penalize you if you don't use a patch plug.
Pretty much exactly what I said
I had a nail in my tire after owning my 2023 Kia Soul for only 4 days. The dealer wanted $30 to repair it. I bought a Slime plug kit and did it myself for $11.
And when it's starts leaking again you will end up bringing it in and spending a grand total of 41$ seen dozens of times😉
Those plug kits are good in an emergency to get you to a shop
Bruh I’ve had a patch in my tire for a year😂
I thought u were gonna say the dealer wanted $100+ or something 😂. You saved 19$ 😂 acting like u did something.
@@TheMontagGaragei run a tire shop , we cant be arsed with patches. a plug last for years, and then its new tyre time
I pulled a rock outta my tire once. Patched it, lated me until i got rid of it.
personally, i just swap out the tire. if i cant afford it, i just keep putting air in it.
And make sure you have the proper bars to remove the tire from the rim without damaging the rim and tire
Are inside tire patches rated to last for a longer period of time, if so how long in miles or time amounts???
Lifetime
Wait so youre telling me pepboys isnt supposed to charge me for rebalancing after sticking a slime patch in my tire and sending me on my way? 😱
After repair, I can still see the hole in the front where the nail was, should you fill that hole/gap? And if not, why?
No, it is not necessary with the style of patch I used. The style of patch I used has a beveled/raised center that accommodates for the absence of the previous tread. They do however make various types and styles of patches, and many that do fill said hole that you mentioned.
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I'd go for a mushroom plug and ream the hole out to suit.
You should fill the hole to prevent the belt from rusting.
I patch my tires with the slime tore plugs... they essentually do the same thing but much easier to just do it at home.
Should use a mushroom plug or at least a regular plug cut off flush inside before the patch.
@@TheMontagGarage use a mushroom plug that pulls through with a wire. Or a standard plug and cut off flush inside
@@TheMontagGarage Exactly. You use a rotary reamer or hand one and make the hole larger at the end put glue on the reamer and work it into the rubber. The the plug.
@@TheMontagGarageyou use a drill bit to make it slightly bigger, you apply vulcanizing cement before putting a plug through and sanding the inside before putting a patch on top of the sanded plug and apply rubber cement after and never had a problem when I worked at Firestone or Costco
@@TheMontagGarage “no shit” should worry more about clamping that wheel from the inside. No reputable shop does that
It was my wheel lol
The plug is a lot easier and faster
Nah screw that. I’ve never had a rope plug fail, and never heard of anyone else having them fail either. Plus not only do you not have to remove the tire you don’t even have to Jack up the car! 😂
Don’t believe that this is the “only proper way” to fix a tire. It’s just the only thing the DOT and mechanics allow
It's one of those things where a string plug is _probably_ good enough, but for a few bucks I can have a lot more confidence in it. Honestly, I've DQed two mechanics because they suggested leaving the string plug alone when I went in specifically to get a permanent patch-plug.
EDIT: Before anybody tries to come at me for hiring a shop to do it, yeah, I want a shop to do it because I'm disabled and it was difficult enough for me to get the string plug in and I can hardly hump serious shop equipment around.
Well depending on where you get your tires from, most places won’t touch it if it’s been rope plugged
Screw a rope repair. Patch it properly or get a new tire.
@@Nupetiet Sure, if you're a mechanic and some specifically asks for it then do it. But rope plugs are perfectly fine for DIY. Everyone saying to use Tire patches only probably torques their plastic engine covers to spec.
@@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr just throw on five seconds of dugga and you're good
Thanks for the helpful vid. What size plug/patch would you say is your most used for passenger vehicles? 3mm, 4mm, 6mm? I’m looking to buy a mushroom “plug/patch” kit and not sure what size to order. Thank you for your time.
Depends on your situation
Or just use a plug 🤣 I've used a ton and never had one fail.
People who use plugs are lazy
@@TheMontagGarage if you have standard lay person equipment, you would be a fool to waste your time and half or an entire day patching when you've already plugged it
@@michaelmccarty6582 sorry but if it takes a person half a day to patch a tire, they shouldn't be in the trade! It's a 5 minute process lol
@@TheMontagGarage I'm referring to myself and others who get a flat tire and plug it themselves. A half day might not do it, I'm not even sure that myself or the average person have the means to get the tire off of the rim with it intact
@@michaelmccarty6582 bring it to us we will get you taken care of
that patch is for bicycles
No bud remove the nail it will puncture again. If it hits a bump you can cause penetration. Do not leave it in my hand never ever. I’m not a tire guy but it’s common sense
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How close to the sidewall can you repair a hole?
great question
General rule of thumb at my shop is 1 inch from the last row of tread, sidewall at all its un patch able. Stay safe out there
@@TheMontagGarage
Scarily, some people outside of say truck tire manufacturers will attempt sidewall repairs.
@@skylined5534 yikes
What about the plug patch combo , is it anygood? Discount tire just did it for me
Thats the best way
Hi can you use iso to clean tyre after buffing?
Yes alcohol
Hi sorry what type of patch do u use.. normal patch or gaiter? Also what type of sealent do u use
All depends on the what type of hole. And I use vulcanized cement
@@TheMontagGarage can you use normal patch on on a small tubeless wheel?
@@franklinnoelwillemse5734 yes
Can the tire be taken off with perhaps just a crowbar or something after tire has been deflated? Like, methodically... I don’t have the machine that does it for you.
Yeah
@@TheMontagGarage Heck yea. I’m going to start learning the patching process alone. I’ve always had somebody patch me. But, I need to be able to do this.
Hers a easy at home way, Pull off tire, put 2 lug nuts back on so rotor does not move alot and simply let rotor down on bead, if u need more depth to push bead use a block of wood etc. I've done this more times than I can recall.
Whats the benefit of doing this over just plugging it? Ive plugged a bunch of tires before and have never had a problem with one.
Plugs are lazy repairs
@@TheMontagGarage I don't know about lazy but most people don't have a whole ass machine to take tires on and off rims.
@@abrahamm1325 well nobody is saying to do so im just showing the correct method, if you gotta use a patch who cares lol
@@TheMontagGarage I mean I'm not arguing with you or anything I was just kinda expecting a better reason lol. As long as it works I suppose it doesn't matter how it's done.
Do I need to ream the hole ?
Not mandatory
What kind of sealer is that? TYIA
Also, I'm using this Slime Tire Patch Kit to patch a cat-generated slit in an air mattress; any special instructions if using this patch kit for that? Thanks so much for your walk through! Was expecting to find one by Slime. You're awesome!
Inner liner sealer and vulcanized cement.
I would allow I full dry time before filling it with air
Folks watch videos to learn how they can resolve issues themselves. What you are showing can only be done at a workshop. Not helpful.
Thanks for the comment it really helps the video get out there😀
That sealant you used last I had repaired a tire once for a dealership and my boss saw me apply that and he said “if I knew who showed you that I would fire him” I thought he was playing but he was serious what’s y’all’s thoughts?
My thought is I have no idea what that even means
Georgie said never patch a tire, always buy a new one.
Georgie likes to waste money.
how much ? $
What do you mean
@@TheMontagGaragehow much would this cost
Roughly 45 dollars currently
@TheMontagGarage I just got mine done for 20
I just did my own for free 😉
pfft bacon strip
hi what's that tire sealer ...
Vulcanized cement
lol you could have lit the glue on fire until it dried yea you’re a rookie.
Lighting the glue renders it useless, and doesn't seal properly. Really shows who the rookie is😅
@@TheMontagGarage boy I’ve done it for 20 years now I’m far from a rookie. But hey you did good I just wouldn’t wait for glue to air dry
@@johnmoorman5200 just use less glue lol
I'm concerned to know what kind of glue(vulcanizing cement) stands up to being burnt? Most plastics and petroleum products are rendered once lit. I mean it's not a matter of waiting if you are in most shops. There is usually enough to do if you apply a thin enough layer.
Safety seal plugs and tools. No need to take the tire off. All of this is unnecessary as long as the leak is in the tread and not in the side wall. Slime plugs are garbage.
If the puncture is in the sidewall the tire is bin fodder.