I have just read some articles about this and now I found these videos, super interesting! I have some drainage issues in my lawn, really heavy clay underneath the plant bed. Used a soil drill this weekend to try this method out. Let´s hope it works :) Since I am a lawn nerd my main concern is to get water away from the grass roots so it doesn't suffocate it, so I had the gravel a bit deeper so I have more soil and room for grass roots above it. Awesome videos, I just theory crafted this from the articles, wished I had found these videos earlier :)
Hi Chuck. If the point of the drainage is to transmit water below the hardpan, why not just put corrugated pipe in vertically so there's more void? You'd need to put a grate covered in geo fabric at the top first to keep it from filling up with soil, but then you could cover it up and grow grass. Why wouldn't this be as a good or better than filling it with drainage stone? If the corrugated pipe is in danger of crushing over time, couldn't you just use the high octane stuff? Then the only question would be whether to use perforated or solid.
Hi! I live in Galveston County, Texas, where I have some standing water in the corner of a big yard, and I asked my neighbors about vertical drains and they said,' heck no, that won't work here, we got clay.' So I checked a US soil map and they're right! Will a vertical drain work in clay? Is there hard pan under the clay? Do you have to get under the clay layer? And suppose the run off is contaminated (with manure or whatever)--will it contaminate the underground water, the aquifer? Thank you so much!
Hi Chuck, I just found your channel this week & subscribed.. My name is Suzie D. I live in Williamsburg VA. I am in full panic ditch digging mode....lol .... I have learned so much from your content this week.... Thank You !! My house is at the bottom of a big slope/grade.... My crawl space is flooded. We used a sump pump to drain it. It wasn't always this way.... When we moved into the house the crawl space was dry & my yard was pretty level. about 15 or 20 years ago VDOT put a new road in front of my house & it drains down my yard. I went online and saw you do consultations. would I have an opportunity to send you an email with photos in advance of our call? This is Time sensitive as you might imagine.... I will call the number on your Website in the morning to check with you.... Thank you in advance for your time Check Suzie D.
Hi Chuck! Can you use this same method for a downspout? Our barn is at the back of our 1 acre property and floods around the downspouts, causing water intrusion.
Good question I think that’s the idea of how to gauge if this system can work in your area/grading. You probably have to determine which region you are in with soil, and then there might be an average depth for the hard pan. Could be 6-8”, but if you’re on a slope then it could be 2-3” (again, depending on the region in state)
I’ve asked this on every “dig below the hard pan” video and haven’t heard a response yet. Never heard the term “hard pan” and have no clue what it is or how to tell what I have. I have dirt. Is that it? LOL I guess so. Or not.
@@hotmetalslugs Me, too. Notice I didn't get any answer here, either, to my question about hard pan in clay soil.And I, too, have asked it on other vertical drainage sites, and asked also random people who dig, like plumbers. I haven't tried a grave digger. Nobody has known the term 'hard pan.' Of course, it wouldn't kill us to just dig the darn hole and find out. But I was thinking just this morning to call one of the geology or engineering departments at a university near me and ask the desk who might be able to tell me where the hard pan (or any other term for what the videos might be referencing) in my particular area is. I will also try to find out about polluting the aquifer. I'm thinking about my water well. Our water table is high, and the standing water on my property runs off from a neighbor's place and they keep lots of animals and don't clean up too often. My well water is free of bacteria, and I'd not like to mess with that.
Hard pan is non-permeable soil. It can be at any level. If it’s solid clay, then that’s your hard pan. Hope you find a good spot to try this method and share your results
@@appledrains I would like to try to find out how far down the clay extends (to get beneath it) before I start digging! But I'll persist and try to get back to this video to report.
@@markc7954 Thank you, Mark, but I'm certain that 'hard pan' and 'water table' are different. For one thing, the gentleman here for Apple Drains said he felt it when his shovel hit the hard pan, and other vertical drain videos have said similar things. For another thing, I know what the water table is, because we have a well for our water, and several conversations I've had with service people referred to the depth of our piping to get to the water table. I think it's also called aquifer.
I have just read some articles about this and now I found these videos, super interesting! I have some drainage issues in my lawn, really heavy clay underneath the plant bed. Used a soil drill this weekend to try this method out. Let´s hope it works :)
Since I am a lawn nerd my main concern is to get water away from the grass roots so it doesn't suffocate it, so I had the gravel a bit deeper so I have more soil and room for grass roots above it. Awesome videos, I just theory crafted this from the articles, wished I had found these videos earlier :)
Love this channel.
HI, what is minimum distance from the house/foundation or concrete walk way to install Vertical Drain?
Hi Chuck. If the point of the drainage is to transmit water below the hardpan, why not just put corrugated pipe in vertically so there's more void? You'd need to put a grate covered in geo fabric at the top first to keep it from filling up with soil, but then you could cover it up and grow grass. Why wouldn't this be as a good or better than filling it with drainage stone? If the corrugated pipe is in danger of crushing over time, couldn't you just use the high octane stuff? Then the only question would be whether to use perforated or solid.
Hi! I live in Galveston County, Texas, where I have some standing water in the corner of a big yard, and I asked my neighbors about vertical drains and they said,' heck no, that won't work here, we got clay.' So I checked a US soil map and they're right! Will a vertical drain work in clay? Is there hard pan under the clay? Do you have to get under the clay layer? And suppose the run off is contaminated (with manure or whatever)--will it contaminate the underground water, the aquifer? Thank you so much!
It will help!
@@appledrains Does clay soil have a hardpan, then?
@@janetbaker1945 yes
Hi Chuck, I just found your channel this week & subscribed.. My name is Suzie D. I live in Williamsburg VA. I am in full panic ditch digging mode....lol .... I have learned so much from your content this week.... Thank You !! My house is at the bottom of a big slope/grade.... My crawl space is flooded. We used a sump pump to drain it. It wasn't always this way.... When we moved into the house the crawl space was dry & my yard was pretty level. about 15 or 20 years ago VDOT put a new road in front of my house & it drains down my yard. I went online and saw you do consultations. would I have an opportunity to send you an email with photos in advance of our call? This is Time sensitive as you might imagine.... I will call the number on your Website in the morning to check with you....
Thank you in advance for your time Check
Suzie D.
Hi Susie D! Yes please use the service sigh up and attach any photos.
I’m happy to help
Hi Chuck! Can you use this same method for a downspout? Our barn is at the back of our 1 acre property and floods around the downspouts, causing water intrusion.
It will help, but the roof puts off tons of water
Would this vertical drain idea work in Ohio? How is the depth of the hard pan determined?
Good question
I think that’s the idea of how to gauge if this system can work in your area/grading.
You probably have to determine which region you are in with soil, and then there might be an average depth for the hard pan.
Could be 6-8”, but if you’re on a slope then it could be 2-3” (again, depending on the region in state)
Just like my other comment, but shorter: is there always hardpan, is it always about 24" down? Is it under the clay, or what?
I’ve asked this on every “dig below the hard pan” video and haven’t heard a response yet.
Never heard the term “hard pan” and have no clue what it is or how to tell what I have. I have dirt. Is that it? LOL I guess so. Or not.
@@hotmetalslugs Me, too. Notice I didn't get any answer here, either, to my question about hard pan in clay soil.And I, too, have asked it on other vertical drainage sites, and asked also random people who dig, like plumbers. I haven't tried a grave digger. Nobody has known the term 'hard pan.' Of course, it wouldn't kill us to just dig the darn hole and find out. But I was thinking just this morning to call one of the geology or engineering departments at a university near me and ask the desk who might be able to tell me where the hard pan (or any other term for what the videos might be referencing) in my particular area is. I will also try to find out about polluting the aquifer. I'm thinking about my water well. Our water table is high, and the standing water on my property runs off from a neighbor's place and they keep lots of animals and don't clean up too often. My well water is free of bacteria, and I'd not like to mess with that.
Hard pan is non-permeable soil. It can be at any level. If it’s solid clay, then that’s your hard pan. Hope you find a good spot to try this method and share your results
@@appledrains I would like to try to find out how far down the clay extends (to get beneath it) before I start digging! But I'll persist and try to get back to this video to report.
@@markc7954 Thank you, Mark, but I'm certain that 'hard pan' and 'water table' are different. For one thing, the gentleman here for Apple Drains said he felt it when his shovel hit the hard pan, and other vertical drain videos have said similar things. For another thing, I know what the water table is, because we have a well for our water, and several conversations I've had with service people referred to the depth of our piping to get to the water table. I think it's also called aquifer.
We have clay soil and dug down nearly 4ft - all we found was clay, clay and more clay….french drain it is then 😂😂😂
it didnt work for me, i guess i didnt go deep enough.
You also gotta take into account the permeability of your soil. This doesn't really work well in high clay content soils that don't drain.