a good thing to point out for those who dont have deep pockets to spend, there is no path to ascend napoleon, hestia on the other hand will be available long term…so it’s intriguing to say the least
If you have any saved up epic premium historical general tokens from past events, you have better odds of getting Hestia right now. (It work for Napoleon prime during his event--for me.) You may not have to coin to get her. (Or coin a small amount.)
Hi all. Is there a video that show or answer the question: -buffs activated by a dragon/spirit best are active (gold book/specialty) even when the general is the assistant. Dragon/Beast Generals. -Caesar, Isabella, Edward Teach, Napoleon Prime, Minamoto, Martinus, Elektra, Elise, Mason etc. add to list if i missed anyone. thanks.
@@NailulMuafi01 can you explain your test plan? - i was thinking of using this. target: barbarian Palace. Lead General: lv1 Green general. Assistant: Elise(or any general where buffs activate when a dragon/spirit beast is use) Test. 1. Attack with the lv1 & Elise to get base numbers. 2. Attack with the lv1 & Elise w/dragon. *Dragon refines and buffs should not apply if its on an assistant. What is your test plan?
@@thebowerykingThe beast or dragon will not work if they are in assistants, but the skills that require them (dragon-beast) will still work even if they become assistants with the loss of talent refine and buff from the dragon or beast will not be counted
@@theboweryking To test, do it simply, use PvP cav genes without assistants to attack sub or monarch keep, then attack them with assistants ( for the case above is Hestia ), then you can see your battle reports and count that ( in that case, Hestia should give HP buff if the test work )
She works with *Martinus* and *Jayavarman* too; which is good for me as I'm lucky enough to have *Martinus* with a Dragon AND his _Dragon God_ skin; obviously the problem for me is who to have as Assist. *Martinus* needs a Dragon for his full Special Skill AND for his extra _Dragon God_ skin buffs and *Hestia* needs a Dragon or Spritual Beast for her Special Skill so if I want the skills activated for the Generals 1) I use up a Beast or Dragon JUST to get that skill activated and 2) similarly I miss out on the bonuses of the Beast or Dragon if placed elsewhere could have full effect elsewhere. All made more complex because I have Martinus* at 1 red star but only a few more Fragments so I'm stuck until I find him again, whereas I have *Hestia* so far just with 5 Gold stars but, due to being that increased chance in getting her while the event was on, I have 90 Fragments waiting so I know I can get her to 2 Red Stars already... pointless stars as an Assist though. If things were easy it wouldn't be Evony though! P.S. *Mordred* is spelled incorrectly in the Spreadsheet
Please do a comparison video where you compare with free generals not Premium but freeminum generals too Congratulations for hannibal awakened I use lo jing as main barbarossa as assistant, prime napoleon as main mordred as assistant, trajan as main soult as assistant is my combination right or wrong
Aka, can you do a video reviewing packs for sale. Why they are good or bad. What you purchased in the past. Your regrets, and what packs excite you. Thank you 🙏
@mgentile589 So I'm more than 2 months behind here🤣. Poli I need one more tok and hestia is ready. I think all save enough runes to finish my range as soon as a new one comes out. She dropped what 3 or 4 spots already.
Hestia makes a very good assistant monster general. Skill books: luck 18%, mounted atk vs monster 45%, mounted hp vs monster 45%, w/spiritual beast and main skill. 90% mounted atk, 85% mounted HP, 18% luck. And with the (universal) specialties.... 170% mounted atk, 120% mounted HP, 45% mounted def, 18% luck. Finally another general to pair with Hannibal :)
i did a comparison Hestia vs Massena as napoleon assistant, but i have a doubt, can napoleon + hestia combination add mounted attack skill book ? with massena cant not and i dont feel comfortable, if hestia can add mounted attack and pairs with napoleon we must add 25% attack more for hestia on the comparison i think. ( i have mounted attack on napoleon but thats skill book is not compatible with Masssena main skill).
Ah, that's nice 😁👍 This SvS I wasn't too active though. I took a serious beating in the last SvS and was completely out of SOLs this time 😅😅😅 But the little I played was fun. You guys kicked our butts 😂👍
I’m a fairly experienced player, however I have no idea about how the covenant works. I thought is a temporary thing that doesn’t last more then 30 days maybe? Do you have a video on the covenant process? I watched a video on the process when it came out, and though…that’s nice….whatever, but might be missing out on many great buffs
Once you do the covenant, the buffs stay. Funnily enough, I did record a video walk through for Covenant, but never got around to finishing it. I'll see if I can get it done at some point 😇👌
@@RedEvony Please do; I only just saw what a Covenant looked like in this video for the first time and would really like to know how they work. I recently had a cash windfall so ended up going up a lot all at one so am now catching up as well as learning all the new things I've opened up
So I only have 30 general tokens saved up, no chance of finishing her easily. Still using Zhao Yun with only 2 red stars. But the assistant i just can't beat is George Custer. His march size buff is easily available and no one else gets more damage done to the alliance or world bosses for me yet. I will get one tho, to do the covenant as you suggest, Aka. Thanks 🙏
That's good 👍 Hestia is a great general, but make sure to save up your tokens for a general you really want. Even if you can't max out the general, if you can get around 3 stars, that's still good 😇👍
How many tokens would you need to guarantee 16 copies of a General in the event at 600% chance? I only have 22 tokens and pretty sure that's not enough. I asked in world chat of my server but nobody answered even though I'm quite sure the coiners know.
In the general summoning, you are guaranteed to get the general every 5 tries iirc. Since you need 16 copies for a fully ascended general, you'd be looking at about 80 tokens 😇 In practice, it'd probably take you less than that
I started from scratch on another server to see how far I got if I actually knew what I was doing to begin with and it's been fun. Helen gave me Hestia who is awesome! Thank you for the breakdown, I have skilled her as you suggested. I have Napoleon on my other account, but Helen is done and dusted. How do you get her otherwise? I don't coin
You have to calculate imtes of damage, not only buffs, her march size is bad as assistant, if main you need 16.copies, plase if.you can calculate in tems of damge.
I’m hoping someone can help with this question. Should I continue to offer in the shrine after I have reached the top? I offer 10 times plus 10 offerings that I acquire from the alliance shop each day and now there seems to be no goal to work towards. Any advice? Thank you in advance!
A critical point that needs to be made is: Evony said Napoleon Prime would no longer be available in the game after his last release...meaning its impossible to obtain him or ascend him if you didnt do it already
Iam a Free to play player, I got Hestia through champion Helen's Gift box, I got Three copies of her and can ascend twice ❤❤, Iam using her with mount general George A custer
Hestia v. Napoleon Prime: Nappy has a skin that was obtainable, giving him 200% max attack (plus a nice -20% Enemy Ground HP debuff) before going into covenant stats. However, Hestia can match this since Nappy can't use the mounted attack book. Napoleon Prime is no longer available, something that should not be a problem for Hestia. I have Prime paired with Andre, and I'm pleased with the size of that march buff (29%: 8% Nappy Ascension, 5% Covenant, 16% from Andre). However, this duo cannot take the March Size Book (which makes sense), due to Andre. If you run Napoleon Prime as an assistant to Hestia his 5% Covenant march buff is in the 2nd level, so it's easy to get. Hestia can match Nappy in attack, but Nappy gets a book slot advantage over Hestia. With Nappy as assistant, and if you've maxed out Hestia's Covenant, you can get a combined March Buff of 27% using the March Size Book and Nappy's Covenant. I'm very content with my Nappy/Andre pair, but Hestia is a top tier choice for either main or assistant, with it being a very close call whether she is better than Napoleon Prime or a very close second place as a main general.
Aka it's as if evony decided to answer the prayers of players using Hannibal. They haven't given us a partner since sun ce and maximillan and I'm not sure if massena will like to make friends with Hannibal. He's got anger issues
@@RedEvony Weirdly I have both... Ascending them however; as per your other video... a lot of the duty Special Event Generals are 98% pointless (though only if there's a non-Special Event Duty Officer specialism) because Ascension for any of them is all but imposible... at least these have a level playing field. FWIW, I went with *Hera*
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Given my tract record with red heads in real life, (run to the hills) 😂 i don't have the means to obtain her oh well Waiting for new general hall 3 art treasure at this rate 😂
@@BritBratlove Martinus have Mounted Troop Speed, Mounted HP, March Size. Hestia has Mounted Defence, the other 2 skill books you can add to your preference.
Helen gave me Hestia! I knew I was keeping her around for something 😂
a good thing to point out for those who dont have deep pockets to spend, there is no path to ascend napoleon, hestia on the other hand will be available long term…so it’s intriguing to say the least
If you have any saved up epic premium historical general tokens from past events, you have better odds of getting Hestia right now. (It work for Napoleon prime during his event--for me.) You may not have to coin to get her. (Or coin a small amount.)
Don't know for you but i got Hestia for free. Win her during the event. I got Menshikov as well.
Andre's march size alone makes him the best assistant. Size matters in Evony.
Exactly
Not just in Evony 😂
Size matters in life as well!
But who is Compatible with ..Not Martin....Not NAPOLEON PRIME...Not any other Cab general.. Can't use his march
@@justinroberson3443 What are you talking about, Andre is 100% compatible with Napoleon Prime
Stop chasing the shiny new object that you will never finish completing, and work with what you already have.
Bingo.
A good combo is also with Javayarman, together they have great defence/hp
Oh, that's interesting 😲
Thanks for sharing 👍
I use Jayavarmann II with Hestia assistant indeed. My Jaya is unfortunately 2 red stars, hope to get lucky and ascend him a bit more...
Hi all.
Is there a video that show or answer the question:
-buffs activated by a dragon/spirit best are active (gold book/specialty) even when the general is the assistant.
Dragon/Beast Generals.
-Caesar, Isabella, Edward Teach, Napoleon Prime, Minamoto, Martinus, Elektra, Elise, Mason etc.
add to list if i missed anyone. thanks.
Yeah it's right, I've been experiment for that case
@@NailulMuafi01 can you explain your test plan?
- i was thinking of using this.
target: barbarian Palace.
Lead General: lv1 Green general.
Assistant: Elise(or any general where buffs activate when a dragon/spirit beast is use)
Test.
1. Attack with the lv1 & Elise to get base numbers.
2. Attack with the lv1 & Elise w/dragon.
*Dragon refines and buffs should not apply if its on an assistant.
What is your test plan?
@@thebowerykingThe beast or dragon will not work if they are in assistants, but the skills that require them (dragon-beast) will still work even if they become assistants with the loss of talent refine and buff from the dragon or beast will not be counted
@@theboweryking To test, do it simply, use PvP cav genes without assistants to attack sub or monarch keep, then attack them with assistants ( for the case above is Hestia ), then you can see your battle reports and count that ( in that case, Hestia should give HP buff if the test work )
She works with *Martinus* and *Jayavarman* too; which is good for me as I'm lucky enough to have *Martinus* with a Dragon AND his _Dragon God_ skin; obviously the problem for me is who to have as Assist. *Martinus* needs a Dragon for his full Special Skill AND for his extra _Dragon God_ skin buffs and *Hestia* needs a Dragon or Spritual Beast for her Special Skill so if I want the skills activated for the Generals 1) I use up a Beast or Dragon JUST to get that skill activated and 2) similarly I miss out on the bonuses of the Beast or Dragon if placed elsewhere could have full effect elsewhere.
All made more complex because I have Martinus* at 1 red star but only a few more Fragments so I'm stuck until I find him again, whereas I have *Hestia* so far just with 5 Gold stars but, due to being that increased chance in getting her while the event was on, I have 90 Fragments waiting so I know I can get her to 2 Red Stars already... pointless stars as an Assist though.
If things were easy it wouldn't be Evony though!
P.S. *Mordred* is spelled incorrectly in the Spreadsheet
Please do a comparison video where you compare with free generals not Premium but freeminum generals too
Congratulations for hannibal awakened
I use lo jing as main barbarossa as assistant, prime napoleon as main mordred as assistant, trajan as main soult as assistant is my combination right or wrong
Aka, can you do a video reviewing packs for sale. Why they are good or bad. What you purchased in the past. Your regrets, and what packs excite you. Thank you 🙏
Interesting idea! I'll take note of that 😁👌
With Poligenus in the Trial of Knights, Poligenus and Hestia will be a fantastic cav PvP combo for lower coiners.
Very right😂
I'm progress 😂
That's what I'm using..... Just replaced my good old Roland / Maximilian
@mgentile589 So I'm more than 2 months behind here🤣. Poli I need one more tok and hestia is ready. I think all save enough runes to finish my range as soon as a new one comes out. She dropped what 3 or 4 spots already.
Hestia makes a very good assistant monster general. Skill books: luck 18%, mounted atk vs monster 45%, mounted hp vs monster 45%, w/spiritual beast and main skill. 90% mounted atk, 85% mounted HP, 18% luck. And with the (universal) specialties.... 170% mounted atk, 120% mounted HP, 45% mounted def, 18% luck. Finally another general to pair with Hannibal :)
I have a Monster Killing expert in my Alliance who agrees and *Hestia* has now replaced *Poligenus* as lead in his second row Monster killing team.
i did a comparison Hestia vs Massena as napoleon assistant, but i have a doubt, can napoleon + hestia combination add mounted attack skill book ? with massena cant not and i dont feel comfortable, if hestia can add mounted attack and pairs with napoleon we must add 25% attack more for hestia on the comparison i think. ( i have mounted attack on napoleon but thats skill book is not compatible with Masssena main skill).
Bro, we got you in SVS 😃. Good to officially meet you, haha, been watching the vids for a while!
Ah, that's nice 😁👍
This SvS I wasn't too active though. I took a serious beating in the last SvS and was completely out of SOLs this time 😅😅😅
But the little I played was fun. You guys kicked our butts 😂👍
Thanks for the help I’ll try to get that general
I’m a fairly experienced player, however I have no idea about how the covenant works. I thought is a temporary thing that doesn’t last more then 30 days maybe? Do you have a video on the covenant process? I watched a video on the process when it came out, and though…that’s nice….whatever, but might be missing out on many great buffs
Once you do the covenant, the buffs stay.
Funnily enough, I did record a video walk through for Covenant, but never got around to finishing it. I'll see if I can get it done at some point 😇👌
@@RedEvony Please do; I only just saw what a Covenant looked like in this video for the first time and would really like to know how they work. I recently had a cash windfall so ended up going up a lot all at one so am now catching up as well as learning all the new things I've opened up
So I only have 30 general tokens saved up, no chance of finishing her easily. Still using Zhao Yun with only 2 red stars. But the assistant i just can't beat is George Custer. His march size buff is easily available and no one else gets more damage done to the alliance or world bosses for me yet.
I will get one tho, to do the covenant as you suggest, Aka. Thanks 🙏
That's good 👍
Hestia is a great general, but make sure to save up your tokens for a general you really want. Even if you can't max out the general, if you can get around 3 stars, that's still good 😇👍
How many tokens would you need to guarantee 16 copies of a General in the event at 600% chance?
I only have 22 tokens and pretty sure that's not enough. I asked in world chat of my server but nobody answered even though I'm quite sure the coiners know.
@@beayn I got lucky once and finished Brock with about 60. But you don't want to come up one short, so closer to 100 would be safer
In the general summoning, you are guaranteed to get the general every 5 tries iirc. Since you need 16 copies for a fully ascended general, you'd be looking at about 80 tokens 😇
In practice, it'd probably take you less than that
@@RedEvony Thanks! I guess I'm pretty far off. I'll save my tokens for another year.
I started from scratch on another server to see how far I got if I actually knew what I was doing to begin with and it's been fun. Helen gave me Hestia who is awesome! Thank you for the breakdown, I have skilled her as you suggested. I have Napoleon on my other account, but Helen is done and dusted. How do you get her otherwise? I don't coin
So, covenant feature buff/debuff is active once we do general covenant even when the general is standby ( not using for attack etc) ??
You have to calculate imtes of damage, not only buffs, her march size is bad as assistant, if main you need 16.copies, plase if.you can calculate in tems of damge.
What do you mean by "calculate In terms of damage"??
I’m hoping someone can help with this question. Should I continue to offer in the shrine after I have reached the top? I offer 10 times plus 10 offerings that I acquire from the alliance shop each day and now there seems to be no goal to work towards. Any advice? Thank you in advance!
Yes, you could continue offering, but that's your choice. You need as much prestige points as you can get
Lady Esmerelda gave me a Flavius 1 week ago. 😁 Great luck!
Congrats to you 🥳🥳
A critical point that needs to be made is: Evony said Napoleon Prime would no longer be available in the game after his last release...meaning its impossible to obtain him or ascend him if you didnt do it already
There is a way to get general (generic) frags that can be applied to finish ascending any general but its a slow process.
She`s also compatible with Martinus, Laudon, Custer, Sanada and Caesar, not compatible with Maximilian
Thanks for the share Aka007.
Glad to help 😊👍
If we use hannibal as main and hestia as Assistant do they Pair ??
Yes
@RedEvony Thanks aka 😊
Iam a Free to play player, I got Hestia through champion Helen's Gift box, I got Three copies of her and can ascend twice ❤❤, Iam using her with mount general George A custer
can we use leading generals in our defense ? i saw few k45 using then at their defense
If the general's main skill is "when leading the army" then yes, you can use them as wall generals 👌
Why there is no Beowulf
It was shown on the video; he tried *Beowulf* but their Special Skills are not compatible and the Assist gets greyed out
Is Andre really compatible with Napoleon or was it nurf?
Buddy this combination can take march size book , you should give march size book to andre not Napoleon
Yes this combo can't take attack book
Hestia is also compatible with Martinus
How s can a you tell if there compatible or not? I’m not seeing a difference
If the gold historical skill book is not grayed out with both generals loaded as wall generals, then their skills are compatible.
with the attack skillbook added to hestia she will come up to 200% attack...🤔🤔
Hestia v. Napoleon Prime: Nappy has a skin that was obtainable, giving him 200% max attack (plus a nice -20% Enemy Ground HP debuff) before going into covenant stats. However, Hestia can match this since Nappy can't use the mounted attack book. Napoleon Prime is no longer available, something that should not be a problem for Hestia. I have Prime paired with Andre, and I'm pleased with the size of that march buff (29%: 8% Nappy Ascension, 5% Covenant, 16% from Andre). However, this duo cannot take the March Size Book (which makes sense), due to Andre. If you run Napoleon Prime as an assistant to Hestia his 5% Covenant march buff is in the 2nd level, so it's easy to get.
Hestia can match Nappy in attack, but Nappy gets a book slot advantage over Hestia. With Nappy as assistant, and if you've maxed out Hestia's Covenant, you can get a combined March Buff of 27% using the March Size Book and Nappy's Covenant. I'm very content with my Nappy/Andre pair, but Hestia is a top tier choice for either main or assistant, with it being a very close call whether she is better than Napoleon Prime or a very close second place as a main general.
Strange ..but my Messina as asst to Nap took the march book just fine. His base march is +12% So you have to add as red book only.
Aka it's as if evony decided to answer the prayers of players using Hannibal. They haven't given us a partner since sun ce and maximillan and I'm not sure if massena will like to make friends with Hannibal. He's got anger issues
🤣🤣 @ anger issues
I know what you mean. I use Hannibal as well. Currently have Sun Ce as my assistant, but in future, I might switch to Hestia 😇
Need a Hera vs Ashoka video.
I'll take note of that 👌
Bur considering how difficult it is to get both generals, might not be too many people interested in that 😅
@@RedEvony Weirdly I have both... Ascending them however; as per your other video... a lot of the duty Special Event Generals are 98% pointless (though only if there's a non-Special Event Duty Officer specialism) because Ascension for any of them is all but imposible... at least these have a level playing field. FWIW, I went with *Hera*
Aptoide is back?
She works with hannibal also , get copy of hannibal please for future comparisons a lot of people use him 🙏
I use Hamnibal as well, and I've already done a comparison video of Hannibal previously 👌
Compatible with Hannibal too
Someone didn't watch to the end.
I don't think he was asking a question.
she's compatible with Mordred too
How about martinis? Or r we talking pvp?
Yes it is compactible with Martinus
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How do you pair her with Napoleon when they both need a dragon or spiritual beast?
Put a dragon or spirit beast on both of them duhh?
@@J33BUZisNeverGoinPro Doubling up doesn't work last time I checked. Duh.
You won't get the spirit beast effect from the assistant, but it will unlock the assistant skill
Put it on hestia her dragon stats are better
I use a random nonleveled spiritual beast on her, and Fafnir on main general. No problems.
Is Evony available again in Aptoide?
Aptoide doesn't support the latest versions of the Evony app. However, previous versions that were released on Aptoide still work.
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Is Hestia a cake general a token premium or totally blind luck?
She's in the General Summoning, so premium tokens 👌
I got Ultra lucky and got her for free.
Aka when you do the skill book test I wish you would use Lv1 books. I just think of all the Lv4 books you may waste sorting it out afterwards.😓
😂😂
Don't worry, I only do that for the sake of the video 😉
Phew!👍
Mr.Napoleon 😎 4:00
😁😁
Given my tract record with red heads in real life, (run to the hills) 😂 i don't have the means to obtain her oh well
Waiting for new general hall 3 art treasure at this rate 😂
🤣🤣 @ track record with redheads
Massena also has better attack I believe
Hestia's attack is better 😉
@@RedEvony march size difference makes Massena have a stronger attack. However, Hestia ranks no1 when it comes to survival of your troops.
hp stat as an assistance is not correct👍
40% from her main skill; 10% from her 3rd speciality; 25% from her 4th speciality. Totals 75% (not including Covenant).
I think it's correct 😇
Isn't Polgenus a ground general??
He is a mounted general 👍
I got Hestia.
🥳🥳
@@RedEvony And on top of all i got her for free. It happens to win her on the event. Not a dime spend. But which is the best general to pair her with?
It depends on the generals you have, but Napoleon is most likely the strongest general to pair with her 👌
@@RedEvony Excellent. Because from above listed generals i have only Napoleon.
It all sounds very intriguing, but not as much when it comes to obtaining her pieces in order to ascend her, especially for us non / low coiners...
Got her and got lucky and got her multiple times in one day I got 2 red stars for her in one day
🥳🥳
People have been getting her easily after her event is over. No point in buying new general packs. 🤷
great tip
Don't forget to sell the artifacts in the art hall to gain gold
You need those to upgrade your art treasures
Washington awakened with 5 stars destroys this one my man
Hmmm... I wouldn't be so sure about that 😏😇
Hestia is also compatible with Martinus
Sorry didn't see you confirmed this before adding it!
@@blujustin4175 No worries, I have Martinus as main general (awaken) and Hestia as assistance general (cheaper combo) with full covenant unlocked.
@wildmanofhk, what books did you put on her with Martinus?
@@BritBratlove Martinus have Mounted Troop Speed, Mounted HP, March Size.
Hestia has Mounted Defence, the other 2 skill books you can add to your preference.