the child Jayce murdered is the strongest character and here's why: this kid ate a blast from Jayce's ranged hammer attack, then fell like a hundred feet and landed directly on his back, AND STILL was alive for a few brief moments. if the height this kid fell from was any shorter he would have survived because it seemed like the hammer and the fall BARELY managed to kill him
@@ximienlundquist8487 He was alive long enough that Jayce was able to get down that same distance while walking. At least Jayce was walking up to the kid on the ground, and he was never shown to parkour down any distance, so he had to find a lift or stairs?
"Power, real power, doesn't come to those who were born strongest, or fastest, or smartest. No. It comes to those who will do anything to achieve it." -Silco
Nice work! I do think I'd swap some things as the only reason that Vi without gauntlets didn't beat Sevihka without sword was because Sevihka managed to thow Vi mentally off-balance and stab her during her confusion. I think these two should be considered pretty much on par. Although Vi as a kid probably should be in place where you put her
@@cloud9296 It matters, but this one only situationally. under different circumstances, that factor wouldn't have applied, or might have been reversed, so I'm not inclined to use when weighting these two (it's not like Sevihka is characterised as someone who pulls strings like that all the time so I don't consider that a part of her strenght)
tbh you cant really compare power levels. For example, it is stupid to put Vi above Caitlyn. They simply do completely different things. Whereas Vi would obviously beat her in a melee fight, Caitlyn could kill her from a mile away with her perfect aim. Very similar for jinx vs ekko
About vi with gauntlets, when she was a Teen she also beat like 6 adults who were way bigger than her using Vander's "gauntlets". When attempting to save Vander from silco. So that shows how strong she was even without hextech
Pretty good list, though I think Vi is ranked a little low in both instances. I'd put her without gauntlets above Sevika*, seeing as she did win that fight, and I'd put her with gantlets above Jayce, since their weapons are comparable but she has more fight training, experience, and conditioning than he does. This means Vander would have to be up higher, too.
Hey bro big fan but just one thought. I think the most powerful character in arcane is the being who saved jayce and his mother in ep 2. Would love to read your thoughts about it.
@@kyuzairen5383 its not ryze. He is blue and has tattoos. Probably just a random freljordian mage, there's like hundreds of them hiding from demacia in freljord
Honorable mentions: Heimerdingers dog: - can use the power of 1294861 gods to summon an mythical oath of the runeterra gods to annihilate your organs - can bite you in your D Jayce without the hammer: - *S E X T E C H* - haggling Chuck: - is doing great
A lot of people go "Vi only got stabbed from being distracted" or "Sevika would've killed Vi by crushing her neck" but can we talk about how: Vi without gauntlets still managed to land hard hits, cause bruises, have Sevika down on her knees or on the ground, throw her against walls (the concrete one btw), throw not just one but a series of punches whenever possible, and ALL THAT while Sevika had her metal Shimmer-fueled arm? Even against a weaponized arm that has a sword human Vi sure put up a good fight and dragged it out. And when Vi was in her teens, Sevika was already an adult so seeing a Vi in her 20s fighting well against a grown-ass woman already speaks volumes! Vi without gauntlets may be on the lower end but she is still a force to be reckoned with as a human. If this were based on no weapons, hextech, and Shimmer OR a comparison that doesn't include the first two, Vi would be at a higher place.
Also we aren’t talking about that one time Vi landed the punch that brought that huge (albeit incredibly unstable) tower when Silco tracked down her and Caitlyn
@@cavejohnson9071 As an old League fan, the way I gasped when I first saw Vi punch Urgot and make him topple over without any gauntlets in the Warriors 2020 cinematic!
I'd definitely put pre-shimmer Jinx way lower - we even get that scene where she trains in the "arcade" she couldn't beat Vi's high-score, which she had set when she was a child
He is not only considering body strength, but also her weapons, bombs, traps and stuff, but this also makes the list feel kind of inconsequential. You can't really take into consideration Singeds and Heimers knowledge/tech, but ignore Silcos influence and stuff. On personal level I would currently consider neither Singed nor Heimer that powerful. I doubt that Arcane Heimer can summon high level combat turrets out of nowhere like the LoR and LoL Heimers can for example.
@@Astronaut-Mars A scientist yordle who does not use magic because he is traumatized by it? Most known Yordles do not even use magic that much and use technology instead. Just being nearly immortal does not give you personal combat strength. One Yordle by itself is not that powerful, Teemo and others got locked up by Graves quite easily.
@@Priestofgoddess I understand what your claim is, but you have to mindful that even though he hasn't used magic et because of his present beliefs, he, in the future will use magic which will make him stronger. He is already strong since he is a scientist, he is extremely smart. As if for right now in Arcane, he would be almost the lowest ranked.
Exactly He considered jinx with her bombs, weapons and all stuff and the list doesn't really seems fair to me because their fight style is not really comparable that much
Vi is a better figther, but the Hammer is so much better than the glove, the glove were supposed to be a working tool while the hammer is his dream hero weapon design for combat
@@greywarden5513 Not true. Jayce with the hammer is actually quite fast to swing, but it comes off slower than Vi's punches. Vi has awesome reflexes which also gives her a big chance at winning. Jayce is also much bigger than Vi which is an advantage. I would say, she IS fast enough to dodge.
Great analysis, but still, I think Vi should have been higher up the list, especially if we take into consideration the fact that even after 10 years of Vi marking her best score on that punching machine, Jinx wasn't able to beat it
I almost had an aneurysm when you got to number 1, because the only main character I could think of that you hadn't mentioned was MEL and BOY WAS I CONFUSED
When Vander fought the shimmer beast hadn't he already been kinda worn out in general? Vander also had gauntlets as his signature weapon when he was a fighter, I'd think he stands much more of a chance in an even fight.
Hearing your laugh in two separate videos is what made me subscribe. Joking, it was the way you dig into the Arcane universe with your oddly soothing voice and your charisma talking about it. But the laugh was definitely a cherry on top. Looking forward to more from you in the future!
Depends on distance imo. Obviously Ekko is more strong (big men vs small woman) but Jinx fighting with guns so it not matter realy. With z drive is different story tho.
Ekko has been losing to Jinx for years. The only reason he “won” was because he baited Jinx into playing a childhood game that he has planned for. And then he couldn’t even finish the job. pre-Shimmer Jinx > pre-zdrive Ekko
@@Vry9 Jinx is a prodigy when it comes to guns. Trust me, if Ekko had a gun too, Jinx would still win. Melee vs. Melee? Like you said in your earlier comment, Ekko is naturally stronger than skinny Jinx. Ekko would most likely win, probably even though Jinx has shown great reflexes and strength for a girl her size.
Losing to Jinx for years? He won every “fight” they had. Firelights show up to destroy shimmer, destroy shimmer Firelights show up to grab Vi n Caitlyn from Jinx, do so Ekko dodges Gatling gun fire before slapping it from her grip, manages to turn around only to dodge pistol fire and steal back the gem. Then dodges bullets (even if he knew they were coming that’s a feat) then he lays her down and it’s his mercy/ emotions that save Jinx’s life.. Where did Jinx beat him?
Viktor in later seasons bout to come back with a vengeance. Edit: Idk how Riot will adapt Heim's power into the show, but the scene with the little girl might be a hint that he can just outright produce machines/inventions with whatever materials he has, at least thats how i interpreted it being an avid reader of league lore before Arcane popularity. List is pretty accurate.
Appreciate the list and continued Arcane content. Not sure how Sevika is above bare handed Vi when we literally watched Vi win that fight but keep up the good work.
Also the fact that Sevika not only has the shimmer arm, she has a fully functional mind. A shimmer beast can't really think strategically like Sevika can
I watched the entire video waiting for heimerdinger to be placed at somewhere, I nearly thought that he had lesser power than the child that Jayce murdered
Heimerdinger would win in a fight against Viktor - because Viktor would die of his illness before Heimerdinger decided whether or not to actually fight.
Hi, so they will be introducing other regions soon! They have slightly introduced Ionia and Noxus when Mel Medarda's mother came, so it's happening soon!
I think you did my girl Vi pretty dirty here. She beat Sevika in both fights and she would wipe the floor with Jayce if she had her gauntlets, she's just way better trained than he is. I'm actually a tiny bit triggered by the fact that Jayce is such a good fighter out of nowhere, like we've literally never seen him fight so much as a toddler and then suddenly he's holding his own with a bunch of superhuman shimmer goons? I can pretty easily overlook it because the scene is such a good time, but if I feel like being extra critical then I have to say that his ability does not feel earned in the slightest. And that's weird, considering that this show is generally very good at making a character's abilities feel earned. I also feel like we should take into consideration whether Vi's gauntlets can deflect bullets, which I wouldn't be surprised if they can (she does have the shield but I'm talking about the gauntlets themselves). We don't know that for sure so this is hypothetical, but if they can then that would skyrocket her up the rankings because suddenly all of the characters with ranged capabilities would have to deal with the possibility of her getting in their face and I don't think a single one of them could go toe to toe with her like that. She could snap basically all of them like twigs. Anyway, Vi supremacy. That's all.
@@aperson9847 no, in fact i read the whole comment and i agree with the Jayce stuff, the last sentence just proves that you just want Vi higher because she is ur fav (+ i also liked ur comment bc of the Jayce stuff so)
@@trulyvortex Okay so you saw that I have actual objective reasons why she deserves to be higher and why I think the video did her dirty. We don't have head to head fights against many characters so most of the video is pure speculation, but a huge exception to this is Vi and Sevika who fight each other twice. Vi wins both times and yet she is ranked lower than Sevika twice. Vi doesn't have to be my favorite to see how that makes no sense at all.
No gauntlet Vi beat Sevika.... She was stabbed when distracted by her sister, but she had Sevika down and done. You're also ranking on hypotheticals, this list is pretty silly, mostly conjecture.
Sevica only lost because she didnt want to kill vi for whatever reason. She had her by the throat with a mechanical arm capable of squishing her neck apart vi was dead in that moment if she wanted it the power difference in that fight was huge because of that arm.
@@monkeybomb1232 Vi was able to break free from her grip and Sevika wanted to burn her face while choking her if anything Vi could had killed her because she was bashing Sevika's head into walls. I can kinda say Sevika could had killed Vi in the second fight when Vi was down but then again her arm gave out and she needed to reload it. Again Vi could had killed her when Sevika was passed out. Vi should had been higher than her.
@@Jassiij27 she could have killed vi without the gauntlets any of that time and she didn't even have the mood to kill vi she wanted to play(suffer) vi first before killing her but she underestimated vi
The person on the video specifies he is making hypothesis to make a list that does not harm anyone, a random person like yourself gets offended and cry about it “😭it’s pretty silly is all conjecture”
Great list, man. I agree with a lot of what you say, and even if I didn’t agree on something, I appreciate how much thought you put into this to make it fair.
one of jinxs greatest strengths is anyone who wants to kill her cant because shes silcos daughter and all of the people who would kill her are connected with powder and cant do it
We didn't get to see it but I think gauntlet Vi would kick Jayce's ass, she has real fighting experience while he swings his hammer like a scientist; god I love the animation details
Nah, they establish pretty clearly that Jayce would have obliterated Vi if they fought. He was turning the force field on and off consciously, she didn't even know the gauntlets had one and when she did, she went from getting shit stomped to instantly winning. Thinking about it, Jayce vs Sevika would have lasted less than 3 seconds, Vi wouldn't do much better.
I was VERY surprised when you put pre Shimmer Jinx above Vi without gauntlets considering that punching machine scene showed that she still couldn’t beat her high score.
There is more to power than physical strength. Jinx is a crack shot and competent engineer with an affinity for explosives - not to mention highly intelligent and very difficult to predict in a fight.
I know you said this took a lot more time but I really enjoy the longer form videos, please keep making videos like it your efforts are appreciated. And believe it or not and as small as it is, you do have a fan base/community
What I find the most controversial is ranking Sevika 3 ranks above an unarmed Vi, when she literally lost that very fight which also makes it rather questionable weither she would have really been able to stand a chance against Vander. I was initially thinking something similar about Ekko and Jinx, but I think you made a fair point. It indeed felt like a fight Jinx had fun with were she was not going full thrust.
If Heimerdinger wins 1st place simply "because Yordle", then the brothel madam and the Yordle in the gimp suit should be up there as well. I would argue that you need two rankings: The barroom brawl ranking, where the fight starts spontaneously, there's no prep time (and no specialized equipment that you don't always carry with you), and you're in extremely close range. The other is the planned fight, where you start at at least opposite sides of an arena, and you have all the prep time you need.
Honestly the difference between sevika with normal arm, shimmer beasts, and vander is weird, cause Vander and vi lose to a shimmer beast, and sevikas arm strength would probably get her the win, but with how close vi was to beating sevika with normal arm, I think Vander could’ve beaten her
No I think vi was already stronger than Vander when she was an adult. because sevika arm was already powerful and it probably surpass the shimmer beast because sevika shimmer is probably improve and enchance her abilities without turning into a monster and vi was still struggling to fight sevika because sevika didn't feel that much pain from vi punch but vi was able to keep up sevika so in my opinion and conclusion vi and sevika is already stronger than Vander there practically the fighters with enchanced ability
@@reekerman1012 Sevika arm was powered with shimmer. Those shimmer bots were literally inhaling the fumes of shimmer, they were completely drugged off of shimmer to the fact where they had no control of their body movements. If Vi easily took out them, she COULD take out someone who isn't completely drugged and powered.
@@Astronaut-Mars one problem the shimmer beast vander took on was completely taken over by it his entire body was boosted Sevika only had a shimmer powered arm Besides vander taught VI how to fight and has many years of experience I highly doubt he could take on the first SB without her gauntlets
I don't see Sevika above Vi as she lost her first fight and only got the upperhand because she stabbed when they were talking. Despite Vi getting surprised by Sevikas enhancement. Singed, in Season, could be pummeled by kid Vi. ^^; Ekko against Jinx on the bridge beat Jinx. Which wasn't a play fight, but Ekko remembering Jinx pattern from the past to dodge when he is fighting her in the now. I don't see Heimerdinger as powerful... maybe because he is sooo fluffly and he didn't like raise a hand ^^;
She didnt lose the first fight. She just decided not to kill vi and lost because of the handicap. Had her by the throat with the mechanical claw could have squished her neck right in two. The power difference the arm makes is huge. Second fight vi was holding back using the real power the gauntlets had.
ekko can go back in time that is what happened. but when he lost his machine he wasnt able to and it has a ery small time limit , that is why he screamed in 4 episode when that lady was killled by jinx cause she was out of the time line
@@delusionofillusion473 He will be able to go back in time after his and Heimerdingers experiments but isn't yet. He screamed because the girl that got killed was a good friend of his, who went straight up the memorial wall. The timer timed the time the yellow stuff would keep the goons contained.
@@monkeybomb1232 I watched the episode recently and don't remember a time where she could have just broke Vi's neck. For which one needs two hands. Which I see further confirmed as she would have killed why if Caitlyn didn't shot her shimmer load. In general the fights of Vi got the "problem" that Vi doesn't fight to kill in any of the fights she had. Which made the last fight with Sevika,.. strange. With drinking pauses and all ^^
I don't know... Based on Singed's reaction when Silco threatened him with a scalpel, I'd think he's not that much of a fighter to be onest. I'm sure he's got his gadgets for when he knows he's in trouble, but I bet you he'd rather relocate or something rather than fight. The closest thing to fighting I could see him do is poison people (or something along the lines) in advance, so he doesn't actually need to face them head on (as he most likely wouldn't win in such a fight by himself alone)... Anyway, like you said he could onestly be anywhere in the list.
In lore Singed takes on an entire country by himself, killed most of if not all of them frontline Ionian soldiers, he's the main villian for most of the Ionians champs lore. Might change in arcane but i doubt they would change the ionian - noxus war considering Mel's mom and all
@@highsun76 yeah it's true and the worst part is that's not even the only bad thing he has done. Not only is he the responsible for the most of the ionians ptsd he's also done some pretty effed up things to zaunites
@@highsun76 In Arcane S1 Singed is still in his rather early and weak stage, but if they stay somewhat true to his lore in the game, he'll become extremely lethal, not to mention he was the first character ever to be created for this universe.
Nice work! But I do wonder we’re Mel’s mom would go seeing as you didn’t rank her. Could she beat cevika or would she be stopped by something like a shimmer beast?
5:39 he loses because he basically carries the rest of his team which have what are appropriately call “side character level power” And he goes up against tire ranked characters he usually multiple coupled with them and their lackies for this reason he loses however I would say he could solo because he did absolutely rock jinx the most unpredictable catastrophic character in the entire series Although she is very predictable is an outside view I do not much like jinx but for the sake of the show will see she’s unpredictable it is very difficult to deal with and he beat her
The whole point of Arcane series was to show that real strength lies in pure heart; that it can never be beaten up; a pure hearted person is always victorious in the end; they always land the final victory blow. Thus, the pure hearted lil kid Jinx was, is and will be the most powerful character in Arcane.
An okay list. But I think you missed out on including experience. Like Vi, she spent years in jail, who knows how many fights she had to do on the daily in there. And yes while pre shimmer Jinx is strong she's a glass cannon, she dodges hits but once taking a hit or two she goes down easy. Jayce I say just barely managed to hold his own but in a real prolonged fight there's no way he'd be able to keep up with the rest of the cast. But that's my thinking on it.
1: Good video. Worthy of a like. 2: I think you're overestimating Hermedinger. He can't use magic in a way that would be useful in a battle. Sure, he's a yordel, but it doesn't mean he's good at magic even if he's made of magic. 3:The really strongest character is someone we've only seen bits of but have been in every episode. Someone who had such an influence that everything that happened could not have happened if he had not existed. How often did you see stars or the sun in the show? The strongest character was Aurelion Sol. He created the stars and the sun, which are parts of him, almost like pieces of his soul. When a star is destroyed, he feels a pain as if someone stabbed him. Aurelion Sol It is the strongest character. (Not a stretch).
Ok ok ok hot take time but I think Vander should have been higher on the list. Let’s review shall we From the very first moment of the show we see he’s a fighter. Beating an enforcer like it’s nothing. After that he decided that the fight wasn’t worth it all left with powder and Vi. From what the show shows and tells us Vander is the head of the underground, or “the hound of the underground” as he’s called in the show. He rebuilt it after the war with piltover. Now the under-city being the place that it is, their had to be people that didn’t like Vander and how he was running things, so we can assume that between when the show starts and the days before his death that he got into his fair share of fights with one or more members of the underground, which he clearly won. Now when we see Vander the days before he dies, he’s seen as a respected figure, being the leader and all. Not just for the reputation he’s built up protecting everyone, but for being the guy that you don’t want to mess with. Notice how everyone In the last drop is ready to fight with him, because they know that to do otherwise would result in nothing but a prime beat down. Now let’s talk about Vander Vs the shimmer monster. We have to take into account that at that point In the story Vander was far from his strongest. First off, the shimmer monster clearly roughed Vander up and gave him a few good punches when he was by Benzos shop while he was in cufs, then he got hit with an explosion to the front of his body, the sheer force must have done a bit of a number, then a roof fell on him, which must have hurt like the high heaven, THEN he somehow mustered the strength to PUSH THE ROOF OFF HIS BODY and give the shimmer monster a really good run for its money. And after the monster threw him to the ground, Vander got back up and was ready to fight again, by now you could see the monster was starting to wane, and lose his footing. I think that if silco didn’t come and stab him, Vander could have taken the monster. All of this, and we haven’t even mentioned that when he was fighting, we never once got to see him use his signature weapon, his cast iron gauntlets in the present day. Those are what he’s been fighting with for his adult life, and must have packed some punch. I mean did you see the way the ground shuck and cracked when he dropped them to take Vi and powder to safety? Those had to have hurt a lot more, and packed more of a punch then those little knuckle dusters he was using when fighting the monster. All of this being taken into account, I think Vander should have been put higher on the list. Somewhere around Ekko. All I’m saying is that you don’t get the name “the hound of the underground” for nothing.
So, I just wanna say that Singed (while inventing weapons) isn't associated with anything specific. Most likely, any weapon he made would be unweildly for him, and shimmer might cause more damage (My backing for both of these points is that he's frail.) His axlotl thing isn't a weapon. Unless we're including living weapons here, (which nobody other than him has, being honest) I don't see him winning many fights. He'd probably be lower than Silco, on the sheer physical side, since Silco has at least gone against Vander, even if he lost. Also, I feel like Ekko and Vi should be put closer to/ if not above Jinx. Ekko is a ranged fighter, showing skill in evasion and hiding when he's with the firelights. HOWEVER, it is important to keep in mind that he grew up in the same place, at the same time as Vi and Jinx, so he could have evolved over time. It would also take immense strength to build a safe place like he did, and he took down Jinx in close combat, where she set off one of her grenades. Vi is a powerhouse. Jayce didn't want to fight her (when she had her gauntlets) because she was so strong. The only thing keeping her from fighting Jinx is her sympathy. Her sentiment and trauma are what's stopping her from doing anything drastic. Yes, Jinx is strong, but she lacks control. She shoots sparatically, and is interrupted/ disturbed by trauma/ flashbacks often. Her explosives would do damage to herself in close combat, and she would easily be stripped of her guns (Though, that doesn't matter, because Ekko can dodge BULLETS and Vi can block stuff with her gauntlets). Don't mind the typos, I don't feel like editing this.
Pre gauntlet Vi > Pre Sword Sevika, Sevika did not win her fight based on combat, she lost, played defeated and only got a shot in because she was leveraging information she processed. Jayce would also body Ekko. He has a hex-tech, he can shield any damage Ekko could do and if he ever lands a single hit he will literally disintegrate Ekko. Top tiers look more like: Shimmer Jinx (with Fishbones) > Jayce > Gauntlet Vi (once she learns how to use her force field) The logic for Jinx > Ekko was also pretty bad, "recreating a play fight". He was dodging her bullets, what would have changed if she was fighting "for real" the bullets speed up? Sword Sevika is hard to tier, during her only fight Vi's mental is kaboom and she's putting up a worse performance than their first battle. Sword Sevika gets giga-clapped the moment Vi starts being sentient again.
I find no sword-Sevika’s placement really weird since we saw no gauntlets Vi beat her in a fight in EP5. Yes, Vi had to be saved by Cait in the end, but Sevika had lost the fight until Vi was put completely off guard with very shocking news about her sister she hadn’t seen in 7 years. Like we said, this is a list of strength and I think the cheeky hit Sevika gets because of this extra factor doesn’t belong in the consideration. Overall, pretty good list. Seems reasonable to me.
Sevika chose not to squish her neck in two in that first fight lol neither of them were using their full power in either fight. Sevika was obviously stronger in the first fight and vi stronger in the second.
@@monkeybomb1232 Vi bashed Sevika's head into the walls as for her neck Sevika did along with burning Vi's face but even if Sevika was forcefully choking her Vi would had done the same thing she did to get out of Sevika's grip so it doesn't matter. Vi deserved to be higher than her.
Vi beat up Sevika without her gauntlets she only lost because she got distracted by her talking about Jinx but she was clearly the better fighter she already beat her with the surprise attack and Sevika only stayed in the fight because of her arm, then Vi adapted to the arm and beat her again even though she took some heavy punishment from the metal arm she could still use her mobility and strength and fighting experience to beat Sevika. Also I'd say Caitlyn is too high.
I disagree with the placings with jinx before her shimmer augmentations ranking higher than ekko. He literally beat her with sub par difficulty. He was ready to kill jinx, but not powder. If he let those ties go, and kill her before she ever got the chance to pull the pin off her grenade, we wouldn’t even get augmented jinx.
Bro your video's are really fun to watch your editing and commentary are on point! And i just realised that you started end of december?! Keep up te good work bruv you really deserve more!
Good vibes I feel like this list will change a lot with session 2 as we will most definitely at some point see Vi and Jinx fight and it will probably be a close fight
Dunno if I can be on board with Ekko and Jinx assessment. Really though, any given fight, it's not about the strength that decides who wins. In this show a lot of people are very similar in power. It's more about what drives the plot. Same goes for a lot of action movies. The person who wins is the one that makes the story more interesting, not who is more powerful.
It's actually what I liked most about the fight scenes in Arcane - most of them were fairly evenly matched, one party not overwhelmingly stronger than the other - even if the plot demanded one of them to win, the other still got their fair share of punches in.
Me:”Hello Heimerdinger, you have been rewarded for..” Heimerdinger: “Let me guess everyone thinks I’m a cutest dwarf in Piltover” Me:”No it’s because your the most powerful….” Heimerdinger”excuse me- REALLLY?!?!”
Personally, I think vi is so much higher on the list. She fighted so many people and won. When jinx used that machine to see how strong she was vi was still at the top which shows jinx/powder is weaker than teen vi. And teen vi was strong so think about how strong vi is now.
I believe Vi with gauntlets is much stronger than Jayce with hammer. Maybe it's cause I'm simping but it feels like Vi beats anyone she encounters lmao.
I'd put Vander almost above all of them. If he doesn't want to fight, it doesn't mean he cannot fight. Obviously higher than Ekko, Jinx, Vi and Sevihka
Ekko when he gets his true potential (spoilers for non lol players!) time manupilation, will be nr.2 on the list after Heimerdinger. I am hyped for season 2!
He didn't actually go back in time. That was just a metaphor made in homage to his ult. Ekkos time powers are tech he hasn't invented yet because he doesn't have a hex crystal
He just uses the stop watch to monitor the duration of the effect of the crystal bombs. Other than that it's just foreshadowing and symbolism, it really is just a stop watch at this point.
the child Jayce murdered is the strongest character and here's why:
this kid ate a blast from Jayce's ranged hammer attack, then fell like a hundred feet and landed directly on his back, AND STILL was alive for a few brief moments. if the height this kid fell from was any shorter he would have survived because it seemed like the hammer and the fall BARELY managed to kill him
The blast didn't even make him get shred through like how the Chem Guards died.
For real though, why was the kid alive long enough to look Jayce in the eye to maximize the guilt Jayce would feel? That kid has super powers 100%
XD
@@ximienlundquist8487 He was alive long enough that Jayce was able to get down that same distance while walking. At least Jayce was walking up to the kid on the ground, and he was never shown to parkour down any distance, so he had to find a lift or stairs?
Haha needed to get some extra emotional damage out of him
Jayce knew that kid was too powerful to be kept alive
Most certainly, imagine what would have happened if it stayed alive. I mean he would have killed Vi in ep.9 bar fight. 😂😂
Yeah, turns out one if the people that works with silco was their child so they would take power if he didn't die
Yeah
Master Windu would agree.
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"Power, real power, doesn't come to those who were born strongest, or fastest, or smartest. No. It comes to those who will do anything to achieve it."
-Silco
Or those with Brittish accent. So many films have that villain trope
@@finezyjnafantazja2495 Lol true tho
I feel like xerath is a great example of this
@@finezyjnafantazja2495 When you have no one you're given a choice, fight harder, faster, and smarter or succumb to your fate and perish.
The drama is so real ☺️
Nice work! I do think I'd swap some things as the only reason that Vi without gauntlets didn't beat Sevihka without sword was because Sevihka managed to thow Vi mentally off-balance and stab her during her confusion. I think these two should be considered pretty much on par. Although Vi as a kid probably should be in place where you put her
But mental is part of being able to fight. Vi hasn't learned to control her emotions but sevika has, making her stronger in a fight
@@cloud9296 It matters, but this one only situationally. under different circumstances, that factor wouldn't have applied, or might have been reversed, so I'm not inclined to use when weighting these two (it's not like Sevihka is characterised as someone who pulls strings like that all the time so I don't consider that a part of her strenght)
The fight was literally over at that point. Vi won the fight already. She lost the interrogation part lol
@@noblentnt4217 yes, fair enough :P
@@cloud9296 sevika didn't contorl her emotions either, The more she get hit the more she was a gry and Vi was calm and Vi thank to this beat her ass
tbh you cant really compare power levels. For example, it is stupid to put Vi above Caitlyn. They simply do completely different things. Whereas Vi would obviously beat her in a melee fight, Caitlyn could kill her from a mile away with her perfect aim. Very similar for jinx vs ekko
Well jinx v ekko is different because the actual fight proved that ekko is able to close the gap between him and jinx and overcome her melee
@@SlyMagma dude brought a gear-mace to a gun fight
@@def3ndr887 and won technically! He got distracted but he really did win
@@SlyMagma Doesn't Jinx becomes stronger after Silco restores her though?
vi with both magic gauntlits is number 2 for sure i dont see how jinx would win that
but magic old little guy is stronger
About vi with gauntlets, when she was a Teen she also beat like 6 adults who were way bigger than her using Vander's "gauntlets". When attempting to save Vander from silco.
So that shows how strong she was even without hextech
I think Mel Medarda's Mother is really strong even if we don't see her fighting somone.
I’d argue that she’d easily be able to body everyone on that list.
Not to mention she’s obviously very smart and has the amount of influence one needs to have power
ikr! did u see those beefy muscles? 🤤 mmm
I thought she was getting too spot on his list for sure!! Lol
Ambessa VS prime Vander?
Pretty good list, though I think Vi is ranked a little low in both instances. I'd put her without gauntlets above Sevika*, seeing as she did win that fight, and I'd put her with gantlets above Jayce, since their weapons are comparable but she has more fight training, experience, and conditioning than he does.
This means Vander would have to be up higher, too.
Yep!
agreed 100% I don't think we can put jayce above vi in terms of strength
shimmer vander with magitech gauntlets = Being of pure destruction and number 1 or 2
Hey bro big fan but just one thought.
I think the most powerful character in arcane is the being who saved jayce and his mother in ep 2. Would love to read your thoughts about it.
what if that's somehow Heimerdinger?
@@fyrewolf7805 but it’s literally Ryze
@@kyuzairen5383 its not ryze. He is blue and has tattoos. Probably just a random freljordian mage, there's like hundreds of them hiding from demacia in freljord
He might be weaker than the dude in Heimer's flashback but he should be up there.
thatis ryze and yes he is arguablly one of the strongest in the lore as he knows where the world runes are
Honorable mentions:
Heimerdingers dog:
- can use the power of 1294861 gods to summon an mythical oath of the runeterra gods to annihilate your organs
- can bite you in your D
Jayce without the hammer:
- *S E X T E C H*
- haggling
Chuck:
- is doing great
Another one
Marcus Jr.
-political corruption
-the ability to build and crush buildings in seconds
Ironically enough heimer's dog the Poro is actually pretty busted when grown full size. There used to be a gamemode about it called "The Poro King".
Chuck power top 1
Chuck deserved to be on the list too!
@@Blackkray777 the poro king is actually the size of a fully grown poro? I thought poro works the same ways as ants with their ant queen
the jokes about that kid literally ended me
pun intended ?
@@miraseum unfortunately it wasn't intented haha
Just like the way my interest in vi ended after seeing how weak she ended up being
@@randomdreamer5429 unfortunately? Huh?
@@theencryptedpartition4633 well unfortunately the pun is not intented because i didn't think of the joke
A lot of people go "Vi only got stabbed from being distracted" or "Sevika would've killed Vi by crushing her neck" but can we talk about how: Vi without gauntlets still managed to land hard hits, cause bruises, have Sevika down on her knees or on the ground, throw her against walls (the concrete one btw), throw not just one but a series of punches whenever possible, and ALL THAT while Sevika had her metal Shimmer-fueled arm? Even against a weaponized arm that has a sword human Vi sure put up a good fight and dragged it out. And when Vi was in her teens, Sevika was already an adult so seeing a Vi in her 20s fighting well against a grown-ass woman already speaks volumes!
Vi without gauntlets may be on the lower end but she is still a force to be reckoned with as a human. If this were based on no weapons, hextech, and Shimmer OR a comparison that doesn't include the first two, Vi would be at a higher place.
Also we aren’t talking about that one time Vi landed the punch that brought that huge (albeit incredibly unstable) tower when Silco tracked down her and Caitlyn
@@cavejohnson9071 As an old League fan, the way I gasped when I first saw Vi punch Urgot and make him topple over without any gauntlets in the Warriors 2020 cinematic!
AGREED
EXACTLYYY
The Gauntlets' shield is also to be considered.
Were she able to use it before the fight with sevika, she would have win easily
Depending on the outcome of Season 2, you may have to re-label shimmered Vander as pre-alpha Warwick.
I'd definitely put pre-shimmer Jinx way lower - we even get that scene where she trains in the "arcade" she couldn't beat Vi's high-score, which she had set when she was a child
He is not only considering body strength, but also her weapons, bombs, traps and stuff, but this also makes the list feel kind of inconsequential.
You can't really take into consideration Singeds and Heimers knowledge/tech, but ignore Silcos influence and stuff. On personal level I would currently consider neither Singed nor Heimer that powerful. I doubt that Arcane Heimer can summon high level combat turrets out of nowhere like the LoR and LoL Heimers can for example.
@@Priestofgoddess Yes, but Heimerdinger is the most powerful character because he is a Yordle.
@@Astronaut-Mars A scientist yordle who does not use magic because he is traumatized by it?
Most known Yordles do not even use magic that much and use technology instead. Just being nearly immortal does not give you personal combat strength. One Yordle by itself is not that powerful, Teemo and others got locked up by Graves quite easily.
@@Priestofgoddess I understand what your claim is, but you have to mindful that even though he hasn't used magic et because of his present beliefs, he, in the future will use magic which will make him stronger.
He is already strong since he is a scientist, he is extremely smart.
As if for right now in Arcane, he would be almost the lowest ranked.
Exactly
He considered jinx with her bombs, weapons and all stuff and the list doesn't really seems fair to me because their fight style is not really comparable that much
The ACTUAL most powerful person that you missed is.....
The Yordle that runs the brothel
I agree mostly except with Vi and Jayce, I think that vi with gauntlets would definitely beat Jayce with hammer
Vi blocks with her face, if she chooses to block at all. Jayce has a king ranged attack you need to block/she’s not fast enough to dodge. She’d lose…
It'd have been a hell of a fight, and we might never know the answer for that question. But yeah, who knows, they seemed pretty equal to me in combat.
Jayce with the hammer is too strong, he could beat VI.
Vi is a better figther, but the Hammer is so much better than the glove, the glove were supposed to be a working tool while the hammer is his dream hero weapon design for combat
@@greywarden5513 Not true. Jayce with the hammer is actually quite fast to swing, but it comes off slower than Vi's punches. Vi has awesome reflexes which also gives her a big chance at winning.
Jayce is also much bigger than Vi which is an advantage.
I would say, she IS fast enough to dodge.
1:01 if only something unforseen happened in the future
Viktor went from the weakest to the strongest what a 180° this whole series took
Great analysis, but still, I think Vi should have been higher up the list, especially if we take into consideration the fact that even after 10 years of Vi marking her best score on that punching machine, Jinx wasn't able to beat it
I almost had an aneurysm when you got to number 1, because the only main character I could think of that you hadn't mentioned was MEL and BOY WAS I CONFUSED
I don't like that he judged everyone based on their performance in the show - but included game lore for Heimerdinger.
@@LadyDoomsinger at least most of the lore he mentioned was already in arcane
When Vander fought the shimmer beast hadn't he already been kinda worn out in general? Vander also had gauntlets as his signature weapon when he was a fighter, I'd think he stands much more of a chance in an even fight.
shimmer vander with magitech gauntlets = Being of pure destruction and number 1 or 2
Hearing your laugh in two separate videos is what made me subscribe.
Joking, it was the way you dig into the Arcane universe with your oddly soothing voice and your charisma talking about it. But the laugh was definitely a cherry on top. Looking forward to more from you in the future!
Honestly- I would still put Ekko above pre shimmer Jinx but that's just how I see it.
Depends on distance imo. Obviously Ekko is more strong (big men vs small woman) but Jinx fighting with guns so it not matter realy. With z drive is different story tho.
Ekko has been losing to Jinx for years. The only reason he “won” was because he baited Jinx into playing a childhood game that he has planned for. And then he couldn’t even finish the job.
pre-Shimmer Jinx > pre-zdrive Ekko
@@ximienlundquist8487 is hard to fight in meele combat vs guns 🤷♂️.
@@Vry9 Jinx is a prodigy when it comes to guns. Trust me, if Ekko had a gun too, Jinx would still win.
Melee vs. Melee? Like you said in your earlier comment, Ekko is naturally stronger than skinny Jinx. Ekko would most likely win, probably even though Jinx has shown great reflexes and strength for a girl her size.
Losing to Jinx for years? He won every “fight” they had.
Firelights show up to destroy shimmer, destroy shimmer
Firelights show up to grab Vi n Caitlyn from Jinx, do so
Ekko dodges Gatling gun fire before slapping it from her grip, manages to turn around only to dodge pistol fire and steal back the gem. Then dodges bullets (even if he knew they were coming that’s a feat) then he lays her down and it’s his mercy/ emotions that save Jinx’s life..
Where did Jinx beat him?
Viktor in later seasons bout to come back with a vengeance.
Edit: Idk how Riot will adapt Heim's power into the show, but the scene with the little girl might be a hint that he can just outright produce machines/inventions with whatever materials he has, at least thats how i interpreted it being an avid reader of league lore before Arcane popularity. List is pretty accurate.
Heim and Viktor bout to be top 2 with ekko 3rd lol
Appreciate the list and continued Arcane content. Not sure how Sevika is above bare handed Vi when we literally watched Vi win that fight but keep up the good work.
The Viktor part didn't age too well lol
Lmfao
Bro went from the weakest to the strongest😂
Also the fact that Sevika not only has the shimmer arm, she has a fully functional mind. A shimmer beast can't really think strategically like Sevika can
I watched the entire video waiting for heimerdinger to be placed at somewhere, I nearly thought that he had lesser power than the child that Jayce murdered
Heimerdinger would win in a fight against Viktor - because Viktor would die of his illness before Heimerdinger decided whether or not to actually fight.
Thank you so much for a longer video
I hope they make a show on the other regions so we can see ACTUAL superpowers
I hoping for Aatrox by idk…. Season 6 or 7? ;___;
Hi, so they will be introducing other regions soon! They have slightly introduced Ionia and Noxus when Mel Medarda's mother came, so it's happening soon!
i wish but problem is they would have to be dumbed down to compensate for the lacking power in piltover/zaun.
@@lapuris8762 I don't think so. Most champions are not too strong in their lore and those who are, are mostly not really reachable for a story.
They said that they'll explore other regions by season 3. It's just that there was so much content in piltover
I think you did my girl Vi pretty dirty here. She beat Sevika in both fights and she would wipe the floor with Jayce if she had her gauntlets, she's just way better trained than he is. I'm actually a tiny bit triggered by the fact that Jayce is such a good fighter out of nowhere, like we've literally never seen him fight so much as a toddler and then suddenly he's holding his own with a bunch of superhuman shimmer goons? I can pretty easily overlook it because the scene is such a good time, but if I feel like being extra critical then I have to say that his ability does not feel earned in the slightest. And that's weird, considering that this show is generally very good at making a character's abilities feel earned.
I also feel like we should take into consideration whether Vi's gauntlets can deflect bullets, which I wouldn't be surprised if they can (she does have the shield but I'm talking about the gauntlets themselves). We don't know that for sure so this is hypothetical, but if they can then that would skyrocket her up the rankings because suddenly all of the characters with ranged capabilities would have to deal with the possibility of her getting in their face and I don't think a single one of them could go toe to toe with her like that. She could snap basically all of them like twigs.
Anyway, Vi supremacy. That's all.
You can’t rank someone higher because they’re your fav bro☠️
@@trulyvortex So you're saying you only read the first sentence of what I wrote
@@aperson9847 no, in fact i read the whole comment and i agree with the Jayce stuff, the last sentence just proves that you just want Vi higher because she is ur fav (+ i also liked ur comment bc of the Jayce stuff so)
@@trulyvortex Okay so you saw that I have actual objective reasons why she deserves to be higher and why I think the video did her dirty.
We don't have head to head fights against many characters so most of the video is pure speculation, but a huge exception to this is Vi and Sevika who fight each other twice. Vi wins both times and yet she is ranked lower than Sevika twice. Vi doesn't have to be my favorite to see how that makes no sense at all.
@@aperson9847 your only reason for her winning is if her gauntlets can deflect bullets which wasn’t confirmed
No gauntlet Vi beat Sevika.... She was stabbed when distracted by her sister, but she had Sevika down and done. You're also ranking on hypotheticals, this list is pretty silly, mostly conjecture.
Sevica only lost because she didnt want to kill vi for whatever reason. She had her by the throat with a mechanical arm capable of squishing her neck apart vi was dead in that moment if she wanted it the power difference in that fight was huge because of that arm.
@@monkeybomb1232 true if u hold someone u dont throw them u kill them
@@monkeybomb1232 Vi was able to break free from her grip and Sevika wanted to burn her face while choking her if anything Vi could had killed her because she was bashing Sevika's head into walls. I can kinda say Sevika could had killed Vi in the second fight when Vi was down but then again her arm gave out and she needed to reload it. Again Vi could had killed her when Sevika was passed out. Vi should had been higher than her.
@@Jassiij27 she could have killed vi without the gauntlets any of that time and she didn't even have the mood to kill vi she wanted to play(suffer) vi first before killing her but she underestimated vi
The person on the video specifies he is making hypothesis to make a list that does not harm anyone, a random person like yourself gets offended and cry about it “😭it’s pretty silly is all conjecture”
Great list, man. I agree with a lot of what you say, and even if I didn’t agree on something, I appreciate how much thought you put into this to make it fair.
Everyone in arcane doing cool hand to hand combat
Kaitlyn: I deal 10000 gun damage
Granny blade hextech: you will ALLL SEE HOW POWERFUL I AM !!!
Considering in the "Get Jinxed" video there's graffiti on a wall at one point that says "Nerf Heimerdinger", yeah that spot's rightly deserved.
Only if you judge based on game lore - which he didn't for any of the other characters, only Heimerdinger.
one of jinxs greatest strengths is anyone who wants to kill her cant because shes silcos daughter and all of the people who would kill her are connected with powder and cant do it
Although its difficult to compare and stuff this is real fun to watch.
Lmfao
"To start of the list, we have the child that Jayce murdered"
*Subscribed*
Can't believe I am that simple
We didn't get to see it but I think gauntlet Vi would kick Jayce's ass, she has real fighting experience while he swings his hammer like a scientist; god I love the animation details
Yeah but Jayce’s hammer is designed to be an actual weapon and he knows how to fully use it (its shields for example)
Nah, they establish pretty clearly that Jayce would have obliterated Vi if they fought. He was turning the force field on and off consciously, she didn't even know the gauntlets had one and when she did, she went from getting shit stomped to instantly winning.
Thinking about it, Jayce vs Sevika would have lasted less than 3 seconds, Vi wouldn't do much better.
I cant wait to see you making another video putting Viktor at number 1, after he reach the glorious evolution
I was VERY surprised when you put pre Shimmer Jinx above Vi without gauntlets considering that punching machine scene showed that she still couldn’t beat her high score.
There is more to power than physical strength. Jinx is a crack shot and competent engineer with an affinity for explosives - not to mention highly intelligent and very difficult to predict in a fight.
When season 2 aires I eant to see where you would put post z drive ekko
Jayce is definitely the most underrated fighter he can be short range and long range while also being strong and nimble
I know you said this took a lot more time but I really enjoy the longer form videos, please keep making videos like it your efforts are appreciated. And believe it or not and as small as it is, you do have a fan base/community
the first joke about the child was so out of pocket dude XD
my guy is going to have to remake this video after Season 2
All I can think of now is the carved message in "Get Jinxed" that just says "Nerf Heimerdinger."
Viktor may be weak, but a lot of the fandom simp hard for him
What I find the most controversial is ranking Sevika 3 ranks above an unarmed Vi, when she literally lost that very fight which also makes it rather questionable weither she would have really been able to stand a chance against Vander.
I was initially thinking something similar about Ekko and Jinx, but I think you made a fair point.
It indeed felt like a fight Jinx had fun with were she was not going full thrust.
If Heimerdinger wins 1st place simply "because Yordle", then the brothel madam and the Yordle in the gimp suit should be up there as well.
I would argue that you need two rankings: The barroom brawl ranking, where the fight starts spontaneously, there's no prep time (and no specialized equipment that you don't always carry with you), and you're in extremely close range. The other is the planned fight, where you start at at least opposite sides of an arena, and you have all the prep time you need.
I still love the fact how jinx managed to not only catch up but also surpass her "prodigy" sister
im laughing so hard rn at "the child that jace murdered." I CANT- XDDD
bro made a whole SECTION for Viktor 😭
6:08 That isn't a play fight as kids. Ekko has time powers and that was a cinimatic or a way to show the past due to the time stuff.
It is
Honestly the difference between sevika with normal arm, shimmer beasts, and vander is weird, cause Vander and vi lose to a shimmer beast, and sevikas arm strength would probably get her the win, but with how close vi was to beating sevika with normal arm, I think Vander could’ve beaten her
No I think vi was already stronger than Vander when she was an adult. because sevika arm was already powerful and it probably surpass the shimmer beast because sevika shimmer is probably improve and enchance her abilities without turning into a monster and vi was still struggling to fight sevika because sevika didn't feel that much pain from vi punch but vi was able to keep up sevika so in my opinion and conclusion vi and sevika is already stronger than Vander there practically the fighters with enchanced ability
@@stephendavid1322 I agree! Vi has much faster reflexes than Vander, and she is younger which could give her a boost. (ik he's yk dead btw)
@@Astronaut-Mars that shimmer beast killed the old shireff in less than a second
Sevika hasn't shown that kind of speed
@@reekerman1012 Sevika arm was powered with shimmer. Those shimmer bots were literally inhaling the fumes of shimmer, they were completely drugged off of shimmer to the fact where they had no control of their body movements. If Vi easily took out them, she COULD take out someone who isn't completely drugged and powered.
@@Astronaut-Mars one problem the shimmer beast vander took on was completely taken over by it his entire body was boosted
Sevika only had a shimmer powered arm
Besides vander taught VI how to fight and has many years of experience
I highly doubt he could take on the first SB without her gauntlets
Disagree with this list for one reason only. Claggor should be number 1.
Nah, obviously the brothel goblin is the most powerful.
Tell me are you joking
When Ekko gets his Z Drive he'll be at the top
I don't see Sevika above Vi as she lost her first fight and only got the upperhand because she stabbed when they were talking.
Despite Vi getting surprised by Sevikas enhancement.
Singed, in Season, could be pummeled by kid Vi. ^^;
Ekko against Jinx on the bridge beat Jinx. Which wasn't a play fight, but Ekko remembering Jinx pattern from the past to dodge when he is fighting her in the now.
I don't see Heimerdinger as powerful... maybe because he is sooo fluffly and he didn't like raise a hand ^^;
Oh, and I would note that Vi leveled up nicely after she figured out the block (and parry) button on her gauntlets
She didnt lose the first fight. She just decided not to kill vi and lost because of the handicap. Had her by the throat with the mechanical claw could have squished her neck right in two. The power difference the arm makes is huge. Second fight vi was holding back using the real power the gauntlets had.
ekko can go back in time that is what happened. but when he lost his machine he wasnt able to and it has a ery small time limit , that is why he screamed in 4 episode when that lady was killled by jinx cause she was out of the time line
@@delusionofillusion473 He will be able to go back in time after his and Heimerdingers experiments but isn't yet.
He screamed because the girl that got killed was a good friend of his, who went straight up the memorial wall.
The timer timed the time the yellow stuff would keep the goons contained.
@@monkeybomb1232 I watched the episode recently and don't remember a time where she could have just broke Vi's neck. For which one needs two hands. Which I see further confirmed as she would have killed why if Caitlyn didn't shot her shimmer load.
In general the fights of Vi got the "problem" that Vi doesn't fight to kill in any of the fights she had. Which made the last fight with Sevika,.. strange. With drinking pauses and all ^^
I don't know... Based on Singed's reaction when Silco threatened him with a scalpel, I'd think he's not that much of a fighter to be onest. I'm sure he's got his gadgets for when he knows he's in trouble, but I bet you he'd rather relocate or something rather than fight. The closest thing to fighting I could see him do is poison people (or something along the lines) in advance, so he doesn't actually need to face them head on (as he most likely wouldn't win in such a fight by himself alone)... Anyway, like you said he could onestly be anywhere in the list.
In lore Singed takes on an entire country by himself, killed most of if not all of them frontline Ionian soldiers, he's the main villian for most of the Ionians champs lore. Might change in arcane but i doubt they would change the ionian - noxus war considering Mel's mom and all
@@Blackkray777 dammn. Is that true?? I literally can't see him doing that lol.
@@highsun76 yeah it's true and the worst part is that's not even the only bad thing he has done. Not only is he the responsible for the most of the ionians ptsd he's also done some pretty effed up things to zaunites
@@highsun76 In Arcane S1 Singed is still in his rather early and weak stage, but if they stay somewhat true to his lore in the game, he'll become extremely lethal, not to mention he was the first character ever to be created for this universe.
@@dannymunch4633 Oh wow, well I'm sitting on the edge of my seat. Can't wait to see that sh*t happen.
Bro Viktor goes from last to first LOL
I liked when u put that kid at last place that was amazing
Nice work! But I do wonder we’re Mel’s mom would go seeing as you didn’t rank her. Could she beat cevika or would she be stopped by something like a shimmer beast?
shimmer vander with magitech gauntlets = Being of pure destruction and number 1 or 2
5:39 he loses because he basically carries the rest of his team which have what are appropriately call “side character level power” And he goes up against tire ranked characters he usually multiple coupled with them and their lackies for this reason he loses however I would say he could solo because he did absolutely rock jinx the most unpredictable catastrophic character in the entire series Although she is very predictable is an outside view I do not much like jinx but for the sake of the show will see she’s unpredictable it is very difficult to deal with and he beat her
The whole point of Arcane series was to show that real strength lies in pure heart; that it can never be beaten up; a pure hearted person is always victorious in the end; they always land the final victory blow. Thus, the pure hearted lil kid Jinx was, is and will be the most powerful character in Arcane.
I think,that Vi is very powerful,with and without the weapon.
An okay list. But I think you missed out on including experience. Like Vi, she spent years in jail, who knows how many fights she had to do on the daily in there. And yes while pre shimmer Jinx is strong she's a glass cannon, she dodges hits but once taking a hit or two she goes down easy. Jayce I say just barely managed to hold his own but in a real prolonged fight there's no way he'd be able to keep up with the rest of the cast. But that's my thinking on it.
Ekko could have knocked out jinx at the start of the fight when he was on the Hoverboard instead of taking the gemstone.
1: Good video. Worthy of a like.
2: I think you're overestimating Hermedinger. He can't use magic in a way that would be useful in a battle. Sure, he's a yordel, but it doesn't mean he's good at magic even if he's made of magic.
3:The really strongest character is someone we've only seen bits of but have been in every episode. Someone who had such an influence that everything that happened could not have happened if he had not existed. How often did you see stars or the sun in the show? The strongest character was Aurelion Sol. He created the stars and the sun, which are parts of him, almost like pieces of his soul. When a star is destroyed, he feels a pain as if someone stabbed him. Aurelion Sol It is the strongest character. (Not a stretch).
aurelion sol isnt in arcane. Lorewise Heimer is definitely the strongest in Arcane.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 He probably is but he wouldn't fight anyone therefore not actually showing any power
@@itsgonnabeokay9341Ryze is the stongest look at the scene in which he saved Jayce
@@finezyjnafantazja2495 it wasnt ryze it was probably a targonian mage.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 still stronger than all arcane characters.
Ok ok ok hot take time but I think Vander should have been higher on the list.
Let’s review shall we
From the very first moment of the show we see he’s a fighter. Beating an enforcer like it’s nothing. After that he decided that the fight wasn’t worth it all left with powder and Vi.
From what the show shows and tells us Vander is the head of the underground, or “the hound of the underground” as he’s called in the show. He rebuilt it after the war with piltover. Now the under-city being the place that it is, their had to be people that didn’t like Vander and how he was running things, so we can assume that between when the show starts and the days before his death that he got into his fair share of fights with one or more members of the underground, which he clearly won.
Now when we see Vander the days before he dies, he’s seen as a respected figure, being the leader and all. Not just for the reputation he’s built up protecting everyone, but for being the guy that you don’t want to mess with. Notice how everyone In the last drop is ready to fight with him, because they know that to do otherwise would result in nothing but a prime beat down.
Now let’s talk about Vander Vs the shimmer monster. We have to take into account that at that point In the story Vander was far from his strongest. First off, the shimmer monster clearly roughed Vander up and gave him a few good punches when he was by Benzos shop while he was in cufs, then he got hit with an explosion to the front of his body, the sheer force must have done a bit of a number, then a roof fell on him, which must have hurt like the high heaven, THEN he somehow mustered the strength to PUSH THE ROOF OFF HIS BODY and give the shimmer monster a really good run for its money. And after the monster threw him to the ground, Vander got back up and was ready to fight again, by now you could see the monster was starting to wane, and lose his footing. I think that if silco didn’t come and stab him, Vander could have taken the monster.
All of this, and we haven’t even mentioned that when he was fighting, we never once got to see him use his signature weapon, his cast iron gauntlets in the present day. Those are what he’s been fighting with for his adult life, and must have packed some punch. I mean did you see the way the ground shuck and cracked when he dropped them to take Vi and powder to safety? Those had to have hurt a lot more, and packed more of a punch then those little knuckle dusters he was using when fighting the monster.
All of this being taken into account, I think Vander should have been put higher on the list. Somewhere around Ekko.
All I’m saying is that you don’t get the name “the hound of the underground” for nothing.
Great video. I would only add Mel’s Mom to be at the very top of the list bc if she smiled at me I would combust
So, I just wanna say that Singed (while inventing weapons) isn't associated with anything specific. Most likely, any weapon he made would be unweildly for him, and shimmer might cause more damage (My backing for both of these points is that he's frail.) His axlotl thing isn't a weapon. Unless we're including living weapons here, (which nobody other than him has, being honest) I don't see him winning many fights. He'd probably be lower than Silco, on the sheer physical side, since Silco has at least gone against Vander, even if he lost.
Also, I feel like Ekko and Vi should be put closer to/ if not above Jinx. Ekko is a ranged fighter, showing skill in evasion and hiding when he's with the firelights. HOWEVER, it is important to keep in mind that he grew up in the same place, at the same time as Vi and Jinx, so he could have evolved over time. It would also take immense strength to build a safe place like he did, and he took down Jinx in close combat, where she set off one of her grenades. Vi is a powerhouse. Jayce didn't want to fight her (when she had her gauntlets) because she was so strong. The only thing keeping her from fighting Jinx is her sympathy. Her sentiment and trauma are what's stopping her from doing anything drastic. Yes, Jinx is strong, but she lacks control. She shoots sparatically, and is interrupted/ disturbed by trauma/ flashbacks often. Her explosives would do damage to herself in close combat, and she would easily be stripped of her guns (Though, that doesn't matter, because Ekko can dodge BULLETS and Vi can block stuff with her gauntlets).
Don't mind the typos, I don't feel like editing this.
Bro, that first one really cracked me up
Pre gauntlet Vi > Pre Sword Sevika, Sevika did not win her fight based on combat, she lost, played defeated and only got a shot in because she was leveraging information she processed.
Jayce would also body Ekko. He has a hex-tech, he can shield any damage Ekko could do and if he ever lands a single hit he will literally disintegrate Ekko.
Top tiers look more like: Shimmer Jinx (with Fishbones) > Jayce > Gauntlet Vi (once she learns how to use her force field)
The logic for Jinx > Ekko was also pretty bad, "recreating a play fight". He was dodging her bullets, what would have changed if she was fighting "for real" the bullets speed up?
Sword Sevika is hard to tier, during her only fight Vi's mental is kaboom and she's putting up a worse performance than their first battle. Sword Sevika gets giga-clapped the moment Vi starts being sentient again.
"to start off the list, we have the child that Jace murdered" well that didn't take long, here's my like and subscribe already.
0:40 Well it’s obvious jinx is going to be ranked number one with echo coming close second for running a whole organization
im dying for more arcane content, maybe you should do a political power ranking
I find no sword-Sevika’s placement really weird since we saw no gauntlets Vi beat her in a fight in EP5.
Yes, Vi had to be saved by Cait in the end, but Sevika had lost the fight until Vi was put completely off guard with very shocking news about her sister she hadn’t seen in 7 years. Like we said, this is a list of strength and I think the cheeky hit Sevika gets because of this extra factor doesn’t belong in the consideration.
Overall, pretty good list. Seems reasonable to me.
Sevika chose not to squish her neck in two in that first fight lol neither of them were using their full power in either fight. Sevika was obviously stronger in the first fight and vi stronger in the second.
@@monkeybomb1232 Vi bashed Sevika's head into the walls as for her neck Sevika did along with burning Vi's face but even if Sevika was forcefully choking her Vi would had done the same thing she did to get out of Sevika's grip so it doesn't matter. Vi deserved to be higher than her.
Vi beat up Sevika without her gauntlets she only lost because she got distracted by her talking about Jinx but she was clearly the better fighter she already beat her with the surprise attack and Sevika only stayed in the fight because of her arm, then Vi adapted to the arm and beat her again even though she took some heavy punishment from the metal arm she could still use her mobility and strength and fighting experience to beat Sevika. Also I'd say Caitlyn is too high.
I disagree with the placings with jinx before her shimmer augmentations ranking higher than ekko. He literally beat her with sub par difficulty. He was ready to kill jinx, but not powder. If he let those ties go, and kill her before she ever got the chance to pull the pin off her grenade, we wouldn’t even get augmented jinx.
Well the reason ekko won because she held back her final shot, just like ekko held back his punches
@@neelchaudhary8993 3 shots, dodged all of them. She had intent to make them hit its just he didn’t had the guts to kill her
@@neelchaudhary8993 If you look closer you see that Ekko jumped on the side and jinx was trying to aim at him before he hits her but it was to late.
I’m happy that jinx got into the top 3, 2 times and she is my favourite character also my crush
Wow that's deep
Bro your video's are really fun to watch your editing and commentary are on point! And i just realised that you started end of december?! Keep up te good work bruv you really deserve more!
Good vibes I feel like this list will change a lot with session 2 as we will most definitely at some point see Vi and Jinx fight and it will probably be a close fight
THE CHILD THAT JAYCE KILLED BEING ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST MADE ME BURST OUT LAUGHING OMGGGG
THE WAY I DIDNT EXPECT IT AT ALL
I don't completely agree with this top , but it was fun watching it anyway . Good job
Viktor is gonna climb this ranking at some point im quite positive about that...:D
Should mention the wall Vi has been beating up for four years
I swear, for the joke at the start you just earned a new subscriber and like XD
Just wait and see what real victor is that is also in game
Dunno if I can be on board with Ekko and Jinx assessment. Really though, any given fight, it's not about the strength that decides who wins. In this show a lot of people are very similar in power. It's more about what drives the plot. Same goes for a lot of action movies. The person who wins is the one that makes the story more interesting, not who is more powerful.
It's actually what I liked most about the fight scenes in Arcane - most of them were fairly evenly matched, one party not overwhelmingly stronger than the other - even if the plot demanded one of them to win, the other still got their fair share of punches in.
Okay, but I had no idea the fast bois were called chem guards. I've been wanting to find a way to put them in DnD, too.
1. shimmer jinx
2.jayce
3.Ekko
4. vi (with gloves)
5. sevika with sword
6. mels mom
7. vander
Well shimmer Vander is stronger than shimmer jinx so I would put shimmer vander above shimmer jinx.
@@Art_Owl shimmer jinx has her ulti and plus shimmer vander isn’t surviving an attack from shimmer jinx machine gun
@@ebkswervo6382 maybe I guess
Darius : “Hold my beer”
@@ebkswervo6382nah vi with gloves solos shimmer jinx and Jayce is not stronger than anyone on this list.
Me:”Hello Heimerdinger, you have been rewarded for..”
Heimerdinger: “Let me guess everyone thinks I’m a cutest dwarf in Piltover”
Me:”No it’s because your the most powerful….”
Heimerdinger”excuse me- REALLLY?!?!”
Personally, I think vi is so much higher on the list. She fighted so many people and won. When jinx used that machine to see how strong she was vi was still at the top which shows jinx/powder is weaker than teen vi. And teen vi was strong so think about how strong vi is now.
That's because close combat was never jinx's thing
I believe Vi with gauntlets is much stronger than Jayce with hammer. Maybe it's cause I'm simping but it feels like Vi beats anyone she encounters lmao.
I'd put Vander almost above all of them. If he doesn't want to fight, it doesn't mean he cannot fight. Obviously higher than Ekko, Jinx, Vi and Sevihka
As a simp for heimerdinger I am ecstatic that he was at the top of the list
I agree with this list but I would like to add when Vi punches down that eye sign thing
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Ekko when he gets his true potential (spoilers for non lol players!) time manupilation, will be nr.2 on the list after Heimerdinger. I am hyped for season 2!
ekko was also shown using his ult to go back in time that was why he was always monitoring his stop watch so losely
He didn't actually go back in time. That was just a metaphor made in homage to his ult. Ekkos time powers are tech he hasn't invented yet because he doesn't have a hex crystal
He just uses the stop watch to monitor the duration of the effect of the crystal bombs. Other than that it's just foreshadowing and symbolism, it really is just a stop watch at this point.