@@miruharabae My first android is from LG LG GT540 Optimus , lol it was a super computer for me at that time. True we owe them , also if phone makers quite the market it will become a monopoly for iPhone , Samsung and other china brands. Hope some day Sony and LG pick the slack and come back soon. P.s Sony mobiles closed business in 12 countries since 2016-17.
Even thought I no longer use android, I salute LG for having so many creative features even though not all of them are necessarily great. It's really too bad that when they come up with one cool feature, they never really follow through and just simply hop on to the next idea. Unlike Apple that really commit to new good features like face ID or taptic engine.
Dynamic Island is inspired from 7year old LG V10's technology!!😲 Apple does keep an eye on all of other companies tech specs and do their own way presenting it as a complete feature!!
Hey! Thank's for finally reviewing my favorite phone of the year and the one I am carrying in my pocket. Love the camera (I'm a video creator as well), the unique design, and the non iPhonization, which lately I see in every other phone... and I find it baffling that very few people are talking about it. Thanks again!
right. im always hooked on lg phones. they are the best. the lg g4 and v10 were under rated. im saving up for the v10 now. i love lg cuz they're so different. tired of seeing people run around and rant and rave about iPhones and Samsung
Pez Trosper LG's skin is worse than touchwiz and the V10 is running old software. The nexus 6p is the best android phone of 2015, and it will be for the start of 2016.
I got the v10 back in April. I love it. the battery is fine it also has fast charging, if the battery goes down I plug it up for 30 minutes and I'm at 50% again. The screen is huge and beautiful. I am no where near running out of storage and I have tons of pictures and videos. I have 64 storage space and a ad card. I don't know why ppl aren't crazy over this phone but that's fine with me I like be a individual. :)
I have the LG G4 and I'm gonna get this phone for my birthday this year it seems like a really good phone and I agree I like to be different everybody walk around with iPhones and Samsung
LG always ahead in sort of innovation for smartphone, Like laser focus, modular phone, 16:9, 2k display, curve display, 1watt speaker, autohealing screen, a flip screen , dual screen etc ,, man.... LG should be father of innovation. they just lack in software department and marketing promotion.
Dynamic Island looks more cooler because of the animations and it does not takes up more screen at the top but still kudos to LG for implementing this first
@@sakuragi1062 remember this was tech of 7 years ago, tech now is way more advanced, if this was released now by LG this would so much more powerful too bad the discarded the idea though
Came here after Marques name dropped this on the iphone 14 pro video. Man one thing you got to admire is this guy's consistency. His 6 year old videos look like they were shot yesterday.
I just want to say that I love my LG V10. It's one of the best phones I have ever gotten. Everyone says the battery doesnt last anything more than 5 hours, which is a complete lie. I've had this phone for about a week now and I have kept the battery alive for more than 20 hours alone. I do barely use it at times, but if you keep wifi on all the time when you aren't using it, and you dont close your apps, if you keep the screen brightness super high or even on auto at times it will die fast. It does over heat at times but this phone is amazing. I use this phone for UA-cam video's and it's one of the best phone's I've ever laid eyes on. I would suggest this phone to anyone who wants a good quality camera, processor, and style. This phone does have 2 front facing camera's for great selfies as well. LG did a great job on this phone.
Battery life on this phone sucks. If your using regularly it does NOT last long. Even with hardly any use it can hardly make it past 5pm without needing a recharge. And if I use this crappy phone plugged in it still goes dead. Phone is unusable while charging. And fast charging is a lie. Short of replacing a battery with another you have to purchase seperately
MKBHD with a deeper voice 4 years ago lol. I loved this phone, was one of my favourites of all time. Too bad LG's bootloop problem cursed it and its LG G4.
you sold me I've been leaning toward the v10 but now I'm ready to buy. Thanks man. been watching you a long time my friend. You do a great job, very consistent
Man I'm not gonna lie the top app bar that LG introduced with this phone was so underated. Sad that it didn't make it to the future iterations for some reason and that it never caught on as a a feature.
I was thinking that too. I wish the A9 was actually 5.5 inches, also I wish it had front facing speakers, they could have did something like the HTC m9 plus. But I guess for its price, it does everything that it's supposed to.
+Maricela Hernandez The HTC A9 was $400 during the pre-order promo and $400 in a flash sale. My guess is that it will be $400 sometime soon, given the holidays and probable lack of demand. I pre-ordered it and for $400, it's well worth the money. The metal body feels great, the camera is surprisingly decent (selfie camera being as good as the M9's), the software runs very smoothly and assuming you like music, it sounds fantastic. The Digital to Audio Converter and amplifier are nicer than most smartphones, not to say others are bad per-se but this is a step above any Apple or Samsung device, and it comes with a FM radio app.
My grandma had one of these back when they came out. Thought that secondary display was the coolest thing ever, and honestly it was kinda ahead of it's time.
Michael Turner try and access the startup menu...every phone has one and you have to press certain buttons to enter ot from there factory reset and it should be good.... probably corrupt files on ur phone causing the loop
My alarm on the V10 didn't work this morning. All of a sudden I cannot turn it on and it's in bootloop. There is no solid solution online and I loved this phone. Now it is garbage. If this doesn't work I'm going to Samgung or even iphone 7.
A lot of people are talking about bootloop problem with V10 and I was considering buying it but I guess no longer for now. I'm choosing between V10, Samsung Galaxy Note 4, iPhone SE and OnePlus 3
Omgosh the exactly same thing happened to me on September 12th...so I got late to lecture and got a renewed main board but too agonizing that I lost all my personal data! What had happened to V10s that time?
@@EliteSniperTV I actually owned this phone and was one of my favorites. Removable battery, stainless steel side bars, great cameras, etc. Was a really great phone. Only get rid of that because of a problem on the motherboard.
1- Gets sizzling hot, you can cook steak on it. 2-Batteries drain faster than you can replace them 3-GPS signal gets dropped or never connects. 4-sound cuts off constantly when battery drops below 50% 5- all LG v10's will go into boot-loop and crash.
Returned my s6 today and grabbed the v10. I've used it the whole day non stop and love it. Glad I switched over. Hard to let go of amoled but the battery life and features of this phone more than make up for it.
Hey Marques, I picked up a V10 today. So far, I am really pleased. I traded in a Note 4, which I was never really happy with. It was laggy, and had too many short hangs. The V10 feels more snappy.
They serve two different functions, the trade off being that this always takes up the entire top of the screen width. Then there’s also the fluidity and intuitiveness of the feature to think about.
I have the v10 and I love it, luckily for me I have large hands. Also I drive a lot and the second screen makes it easy to switch between maps, youtube, and lyft fast. It is overlooked by most, the tv remote control is also great too, especially when you use it on other people's tv's from outside
Coming from iPhone 14 , man I feel sorry for LG. they were way ahead of their game but very bad line ups and marketing eventually quit the industry.
really ahead i mean, really ahead......marq critiqued it with not being reachable!!!
I never bought any of their phones but I always hoped that they will just hang in there. We owe LG a lot.
As a proud LG Wing owner, I mourn them...
@@miruharabae My first android is from LG LG GT540 Optimus , lol it was a super computer for me at that time.
True we owe them , also if phone makers quite the market it will become a monopoly for iPhone , Samsung and other china brands.
Hope some day Sony and LG pick the slack and come back soon.
P.s
Sony mobiles closed business in 12 countries since 2016-17.
Even thought I no longer use android, I salute LG for having so many creative features even though not all of them are necessarily great. It's really too bad that when they come up with one cool feature, they never really follow through and just simply hop on to the next idea.
Unlike Apple that really commit to new good features like face ID or taptic engine.
Who is here after the new iPhone 14 Pro video talking about Dynamic Island
Me bro
meee
Hehe
Dynamic island
Dynamic island babbbbbyyyyyyy
Dynamic Island is inspired from 7year old LG V10's technology!!😲 Apple does keep an eye on all of other companies tech specs and do their own way presenting it as a complete feature!!
Or just rebrand older features with newer names 🤦 Dynamic island😆
@@itiswhatitis-yes ya!😅 but they nail it with perfection!😲
@@prajk23 Nailing with stupid names? Of course...
Dynamic island haha 😂 😂😂
No shit that's literally what he said in his most recent video.
You're absolutely right - LG comes out with great devices and they get no publicity.
but lg leon sucks don't get it
now people just care about iphones even though there's more better phones than the iphone
First several generations of these V10s and similar of theirs have mad bootloop issues. Been through 5 and may never buy another LG phone
@@aNewJesus. My LG K8 LTE never having any Bootloops
Apple copies it 7yrs later XD
Shout out to LG for inspiring today’s Apple hole* punch island feature🤓
*Hole
it’s kind of a reach
@@Bruhngus420 hard bro
notchification
MARK ASSS BROWN LEEEE
Nice round up of the features. For me it's a shame they still haven't released it in the UK, main reason not many people know about it here
you have to fix everywhere. Nobody wants to subscribe you
+KK MENON He makes quality videos and is one of my favorite tech reviewer. So you can shut the hell up cuz nobody wants to hear your opinion)))))
+KK MENON he has almost quater of a million subscribers so yeah people like him
End of december this year its coming out in the UK. Note 5 is coming to the UK late January next year
Hey saf 😊 remember me 😉
Hey! Thank's for finally reviewing my favorite phone of the year and the one I am carrying in my pocket. Love the camera (I'm a video creator as well), the unique design, and the non iPhonization, which lately I see in every other phone... and I find it baffling that very few people are talking about it. Thanks again!
right. im always hooked on lg phones. they are the best. the lg g4 and v10 were under rated. im saving up for the v10 now. i love lg cuz they're so different. tired of seeing people run around and rant and rave about iPhones and Samsung
Nexus 6p and note 5 are leaps and bounds better than this device.
Mike Cox those leaps must be coming from a person with no legs because they arnt. Imo
Pez Trosper LG's skin is worse than touchwiz and the V10 is running old software. The nexus 6p is the best android phone of 2015, and it will be for the start of 2016.
Pez Trosper My old galaxy note 4 is superior to the G4 and V10.
The shot made at 0:58 was sublime! A stand to make the phone "float" and some decorations, as always, top quality.
I got the v10 back in April. I love it. the battery is fine it also has fast charging, if the battery goes down I plug it up for 30 minutes and I'm at 50% again. The screen is huge and beautiful. I am no where near running out of storage and I have tons of pictures and videos. I have 64 storage space and a ad card. I don't know why ppl aren't crazy over this phone but that's fine with me I like be a individual. :)
I have the LG G4 and I'm gonna get this phone for my birthday this year it seems like a really good phone and I agree I like to be different everybody walk around with iPhones and Samsung
can you put a sim and sd card in it at the same time and did it get the android 6.0 now?
Seraf yes i have 6.0 and the phone has a sd and a sim card slot
Dmw9903 it is November now...how is the v10 holding on? please I need your reply. I want to buy this phone
Did you ever gett the bootloop issue?
LG always ahead in sort of innovation for smartphone, Like laser focus, modular phone, 16:9, 2k display, curve display, 1watt speaker, autohealing screen, a flip screen , dual screen etc ,, man.... LG should be father of innovation.
they just lack in software department and marketing promotion.
Indeed!, they just did not have a tactic for sale.
MARK ASSS BROWN LEEEE
Bootloop?
I think the Sony brand is the most underrated tbh
especially the compact phones! they are amazing
+Sanzz HD the compact version is a beast
+Sanzz HD I love my Z3 Compact!
I agree.
+Sanzz HD well the Snap 810 ruin their phone :v
That intro...I miss the old one...
Yeah the old one was catchy. This one seems like it's just cutoff too early.
+mohamed amn I said the same thing. He needs to put the old intro back.
I also miss the old one. Always got me pumped for the videos.
Yeah we want the old intro back.
+steveocho Yeah it was super short. I think that's the shortest intro I've ever seen.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the audio quality. I heard its got a built in DAC.
+K. Flynn All phones with 3.5mm audio have a built in dac
+K. Flynn every single thing that does digital audio has a built in dac. without it you have no audio.
+Marques Brownlee Superior amp and dac
+Marques Brownlee LG should've launched the device with android 6.0 out of the box then I would've considered buying it hahaha!
+K. Flynn This wasn't the review.
Here after, MKBHD compared New iPhone 14 pro's dynamic island to to LG V10's secondary display! :)
MARK ASSS BROWN LEEEE
Watching this video in 2023. This was a really cool phone. Probably best design and feel in hand of any phone I've ever owned.
That moment when you can "only" watch in 1080p...
That moment when my internet can't handle 480p
back in my day we used to lag in 360p
im watching in 1440p in my galaxy s6
M still in ,360
+cristopher_the_gamer323 *on
This looks like the best smartphone of the year honestly
+Miguel Angel Cadavid Parra Note 5 is beast !
+Epicjack but not best
+Epicjack Yeah, except no expandable storage or IR blaster....so the V10 is better
*cough Nexus 6p
+Marky Marc no
2:57 0 to 100 real quick!
This phone was way ahead of it's time, the 2nd display, buttons in the back etc...
The second display implementation looks much cleaner than dynamic island. That's how Android's version of dynamic island should look like.
takes up more screen display/bezels so it’s good that it’s not permanent.
Dynamic Island looks more cooler because of the animations and it does not takes up more screen at the top but still kudos to LG for implementing this first
@@sakuragi1062 remember this was tech of 7 years ago, tech now is way more advanced, if this was released now by LG this would so much more powerful too bad the discarded the idea though
I have the LG G3 and this phone is still amazing!
same here :)
+ChiChaChiHa Me too :)
+ChiChaChiHa true story!
+ChiChaChiHa Same story! :) but i would like to have a proper camera app like the v10. The only thing is missing is that and a fingerprint scanner
+ChiChaChiHa Still have the LG G2, Love it a lot.
Came here from Marques Iphone 14 pro video...lg was ahead of time.
From no where UA-cam algorithm will now pump up this video to everywhere.
Came here after Marques name dropped this on the iphone 14 pro video. Man one thing you got to admire is this guy's consistency. His 6 year old videos look like they were shot yesterday.
I just want to say that I love my LG V10. It's one of the best phones I have ever gotten. Everyone says the battery doesnt last anything more than 5 hours, which is a complete lie. I've had this phone for about a week now and I have kept the battery alive for more than 20 hours alone. I do barely use it at times, but if you keep wifi on all the time when you aren't using it, and you dont close your apps, if you keep the screen brightness super high or even on auto at times it will die fast. It does over heat at times but this phone is amazing. I use this phone for UA-cam video's and it's one of the best phone's I've ever laid eyes on. I would suggest this phone to anyone who wants a good quality camera, processor, and style. This phone does have 2 front facing camera's for great selfies as well. LG did a great job on this phone.
Nice said
Goddess Tutorials o
Battery life on this phone sucks. If your using regularly it does NOT last long. Even with hardly any use it can hardly make it past 5pm without needing a recharge.
And if I use this crappy phone plugged in it still goes dead. Phone is unusable while charging. And fast charging is a lie. Short of replacing a battery with another you have to purchase seperately
MKBHD with a deeper voice 4 years ago lol. I loved this phone, was one of my favourites of all time. Too bad LG's bootloop problem cursed it and its LG G4.
Marques bought me here after iPhone 14 pro call out.
This fone is the Dynamic Island OG 👀
Here after the iPhone 14 pro video by MKBHD to see the 'dynamic island' by LG in 2015 .. 😝
you sold me I've been leaning toward the v10 but now I'm ready to buy. Thanks man. been watching you a long time my friend. You do a great job, very consistent
That stone-cold callout in the iPhone 14 review, haha
I just had to go back and check this out.
AYYY YOU FINALLY GOT A FRESH CUT INSTEAD OF THAT LITTLE BUMP ON TOP. GOOOOD
+Muhammad Chamas Finally, he now looks less dumb.
my boi wid the fresh cut
+HashtagKingd0m That edge up needs some work, though. Still good.
Watching this review after the reference on the iPhone 14.
That was a neat trick, marques; that was indeed a neat trick.
Did not mention the excellent DAC that came with this phone!
Man I'm not gonna lie the top app bar that LG introduced with this phone was so underated. Sad that it didn't make it to the future iterations for some reason and that it never caught on as a a feature.
Never thought i will be watching this in 2022 😂 dynamic island of that era👍
Currently on my OP7t pro McLaren 5G yet, will always miss this phone .
1:04 old dynamic island
I had the v10 , and the camera was crazy good!! I loved that you can use the main camera and front camera at the same time...
I really miss LG😢
MKBHD is the greatest! What a trace back of Tec man!
who are all after iPhone 14 video 😂
me
@@droiddevx03 then dont comment here, you fall for that fishing too 😂
This must be the Dynamic Beach then
its funny how all the comments are either 6 years ago or 6 hours ago! 😂😂😂
aahh back in those days we used to really love sharp corners on every app/logo
LG V10 still getting love all these years later. I love it.
Who came after watching his new iphone 14pro video ? 😂
Can you review the HTC a9? Your videos are great and very informative!
I was thinking that too. I wish the A9 was actually 5.5 inches, also I wish it had front facing speakers, they could have did something like the HTC m9 plus. But I guess for its price, it does everything that it's supposed to.
+Maricela Hernandez A9 sucks...
+Neoand12 I thought it was like $400?
+Maricela Hernandez $500
+Maricela Hernandez The HTC A9 was $400 during the pre-order promo and $400 in a flash sale. My guess is that it will be $400 sometime soon, given the holidays and probable lack of demand. I pre-ordered it and for $400, it's well worth the money. The metal body feels great, the camera is surprisingly decent (selfie camera being as good as the M9's), the software runs very smoothly and assuming you like music, it sounds fantastic. The Digital to Audio Converter and amplifier are nicer than most smartphones, not to say others are bad per-se but this is a step above any Apple or Samsung device, and it comes with a FM radio app.
I love lg! People still use Samsung devices?
yes. people who want GOOD phones
+James Cena people who want Android version of Apple
John Maynard but with good specs compared to apple
James Cena yup
Samsung is the android version of apple, stick to what they know and dont try for new things
the best V10 review I've seen now, just like always Marques, and the 5 facts idea is sweet ;)
You're here for 1:05
You're welcome
Notice how the second screen has a con of "hard to reach", Dynamic island ain't different
Ayo, the Dynamic Island
My grandma had one of these back when they came out. Thought that secondary display was the coolest thing ever, and honestly it was kinda ahead of it's time.
By far my FAVORITE phone I have ever had.. except the screen burn issue. I got a replacement and had the same issue. But this phone is amazing.
This phone is sexy af.
Prince Broly very! Im using it now and it's really worth it
Dynamic Island at 1:10
I really liked my V10 until it developed bootloop.... Please help... How do I fix it?
Michael Turner
Return it. My phone had bootloop there is no fix. it has to be replaced.
Michael Turner Don't root your phone dumbass
Did not root it... troll
Michael Turner try and access the startup menu...every phone has one and you have to press certain buttons to enter ot from there factory reset and it should be good.... probably corrupt files on ur phone causing the loop
I miss my V10. I loved being able to put that personal name on the second screen and loved the shortcuts.
Thanks for the video, Marques. I picked mine up, yesterday. Enjoying the hell out of it, so far.
My alarm on the V10 didn't work this morning. All of a sudden I cannot turn it on and it's in bootloop. There is no solid solution online and I loved this phone. Now it is garbage. If this doesn't work I'm going to Samgung or even iphone 7.
A lot of people are talking about bootloop problem with V10 and I was considering buying it but I guess no longer for now. I'm choosing between V10, Samsung Galaxy Note 4, iPhone SE and OnePlus 3
I'm within the one year plan so they are sending a refurbished V10 replacement. Too bad i cannot recover photos and data on my old phone though.
Can i have it plss
mine is a company phone and it is sourced from AT&T so I am limited to their selections.
Omgosh the exactly same thing happened to me on September 12th...so I got late to lecture and got a renewed main board but too agonizing that I lost all my personal data! What had happened to V10s that time?
Removable battery and micro sd is nessesary. thanks lg. I will not buy a phone without these features.
How's it going?
@@rubensantos5006 I now have no microsd, removable battery, and headphone jack. Rip my dreams 😂😂😂😂
@@EliteSniperTV I actually owned this phone and was one of my favorites. Removable battery, stainless steel side bars, great cameras, etc. Was a really great phone. Only get rid of that because of a problem on the motherboard.
@@EliteSniperTV which phone bro??😂
1- Gets sizzling hot, you can cook steak on it.
2-Batteries drain faster than you can replace them
3-GPS signal gets dropped or never connects.
4-sound cuts off constantly when battery drops below 50%
5- all LG v10's will go into boot-loop and crash.
LG 10 had the first “Dynamic Island”
Just came to see what was dynamic island was like by LG
Others are copying Iphone, LG is Making SmartPhone
Samsung never copied apple
Legend Killer '13 year old rko fan' at least they used to
@@qpol when tf did Samsung copy apple? I mean compare the s10 to xs max
@@qpol No, fool. You're fucking dumb
@@rrektless they did boy
I'll wait until the video is processed fully
Lg’s idea looks better then dynamic island
V10 being the inspiration for Dynamic Island?
Woah 👀🤝
Well said MKBHD, I here after watching iPhone 14 pro review.
Who is here after MKBHD iphone comments on dynamic island is copied from here..
My boy brought us here 😂😂😂.
Look! A dynamic Island!
Returned my s6 today and grabbed the v10. I've used it the whole day non stop and love it. Glad I switched over. Hard to let go of amoled but the battery life and features of this phone more than make up for it.
amoled causes screen burn in that's why the galaxy s7 always on display moves to keep it from burning in.
And now the iPhone 14 has this "Dynamic Island" nearly 7 years later.
Who came from here from his iPhone 14 pro video to check how apple copied the dynamic Island!?
why no review talks about the 32bit DAC on this phone?
thats like the best thing ever
+mohsin burhanudin yub it is one of the main feature of the phone
+1
What types of headphones do you need before you'll start to hear the difference?
sample text i'm not sure but maybe the one above $100
only here just because of that iPhone pro review
LG V30 is out but i'm still in love with design of this phone.
here after MKBHD's iPhone 14 Pro review, Dynamic Island damn
I love that baby blue color!
Best of 2015 in my opinion
1.Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+
2.LG V10
3.Google Nexus 6P
4.Samsung Galaxy Note 5
5.Sony Xperia Z5 Premium
6.Motorola Droid turbo 2
7.Apple iPhone 6s+
8. Blackberry Priv
9.OnePlus X
10.Google Nexus 5X
nice list
Take out edge plus. currently using one. Its not really good. So much hype. Edge has basically no special function to it. Also battery life sucks.
+Park Dorky lol how much SOT are you getting I'm getting 6 hours plus on a regular everyday, not many phones give you 6 hours
Diarmid Thomson You must've been samsung fanboy or you must have not seen a lumia 950/950xl yet for saying the s6 is on top of the list
+Muhammad Ammar yeah I am a bit of a Sammy fanboy tbh but I've just never really been into Windows phones but I might give the 950 XL a shot.
First dynamic island 😂🤗
Great job dude! You're really good at this.
I appritiate LG for having such functionality way back. I Wish they exist in market.
Wow, it’s true, apple copied. Thanks MKBHD
I wish LG toned it down with the size. Maybe a compact version of this.
I agree. i want it cause of durability but its too big. i'll just get the S7
Well, isn't that covered in glass though?
elchamber I'll get a cover, or a skin.
elchamber the G4 is the compact version of this old phone (sorry for the late comment XD)
I see someone has been copying homework.
Hey Marques, I picked up a V10 today. So far, I am really pleased. I traded in a Note 4, which I was never really happy with. It was laggy, and had too many short hangs. The V10 feels more snappy.
thanks man!
im a big fan of your vids and can always rely in em' to find my next tech!!
100/100
iPhone 14 Pro sent me here
Isn't this even better than the dynamic Island 🤨 ?
They serve two different functions, the trade off being that this always takes up the entire top of the screen width. Then there’s also the fluidity and intuitiveness of the feature to think about.
Dynamic island is Great
Z5 premium and now this LG phone are my contenders for my next phone upgrade. Great video once again.
I have the v10 and I love it, luckily for me I have large hands. Also I drive a lot and the second screen makes it easy to switch between maps, youtube, and lyft fast. It is overlooked by most, the tv remote control is also great too, especially when you use it on other people's tv's from outside
Any mallus after watching the review of iphone 14 pro മലയാളികൾ ആരെങ്കിലും ഉണ്ടോ 😃☝️
Pinnallah
Undee 🐱
i wanna trade in my g3 for this
+90sFella give me your G3
+ThatWolffe deal. for $249. so I can get v10 :P
I want to trade in my gf for this.
Jk, I would need my hand to use the phone.
+90sFella wait for LG G5
Time travel. Dynamic island
I love this phone. so much hardive space, performance and the camera is the best thing every. I love the cinematic aspect.
literally have been waiting for you to drop a v10 video for SOOO LONG, since the release
2015 gimmick comes at 2022 🤣