Palestinians: Why can't you admit you lost to the Jews?
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The Quran says that God gave the land to the Jews. The Quran even predicts that the Jews will return.
@Marie Curie Do your own research Ivan
Irish never give up for more than 800 years.
What
@@BeardedDragonMan1997 u dumb?
And that has been a great experience for everyone and totally worth it, right? What was that fight about, again?
800 years thats cute
@@mx2000 The Irish were fighting for independence
Dear god.
That's the type of question I ask my opponents in video games when I want to piss them off.
Corey is a fucking dougebag
Yeah, it was a pretty dumb question.
I’m surprised they weren’t super mad at him. I think that before they start recording, they explain that it’s not their question and it’s someone else asking it.
@Alex Cyriac Yes, the Israeli's won the initial war, but they keep encroaching.
I'm American, but if I were king of the world, I would force Israel to give back -some- land, and I would also give Hamas a spanking for being terrorists.
Both sides are being greedy and racist. They both need to be smacked.
@@Reignor99 Hamas didn't existed until 1984 what about before then? (Israel itself funded Hamas to counter PLO/create a civil war)
Gotta say admit tho, even if that was such an incendiary question, everyone interviewed offered a respectful and calm answer.
Isn't it a sad state of things when all you could find to praise them for is not slitting the throat of the interviewer right there and then?
@@gene-van Idiotic comment, if you check out the video on settlers stealing israeli land no one slits Corey's throat but they do react more aggressively to the question
Yes, they do have these vibes: calm, polite, respectful, patient. Love them so much ❤️🇵🇸
@@gene-van Welp, that escalated quickly...
They could have been angered by the question, some of them could have used cursed words or at the least higher their voice. But none of them did that, they all just thought about the question and replied with almost a sense of serenity.
Need to calm down buddy and stop finding animosity and destruction in everything!
@@gene-van
Isnt it sad that u think that they would slit the throat of the interviewer?
I think losing is, when you give up, but the palestinians are still fighting.
No, loosing is when you have no capability of defending yourself and you're at the mercy of the enemy. Yes its infair what the world did after world War 2 by just creating Israel out f nowhere using Palestinian lands and the Palestinian have every rights to be angry for it but the idea of keep on fighting blindly after over half a decade had past breed hatred and bloodshed.
They are fighting a losing battle. Maybe if they fight for a couple hundred years the weak will die off and a strong leader will rise.
They still lost lmao
@@smileandlaughs maybe you just don’t have something that is worth dying for
@@amoolakhanshali2972Everybody have something worth dying for but more importantly do you have something worth living for? If you die who would be there to take care of your children and your family? Then what would become of your community when you create broken families? It's takes much greater strength to live and endure for your future generation than mindlessly dying within minutes of impulse.
Its a catch 22 question. I respect the attitude of the Palestinians asked. There is peaceful overtones in the answers. Encouraging.
They recognize their defeat.
@@Linda43 😂😂😂😂
@@Linda43 whats wrong is wrong im excited for judgment day, all this will be put to rest alhamdelillah
@@Linda43 don’t you miss hitler ?
@@Eleidig007 Muslims believe Jesus will return to Jerusalem to rule the world. When he returns to claim HIS temple you think Israeli army will bow to him?
That's the answer when you hate your enemy more than you love your children.
That title gives me anxiety
🤨
"Lost to the Jews" gives you anxiety? I assume you are being sarcastic
@@lori8161 do you have the balls to go to a Palestinian town and ask them that to their face?
@@mrniceguy7168 I live in a Palestinian town
@@mrniceguy7168 I'm an Israeli Arab tho
We will loose ,when we loose ourselves.
There's is no lost until we gave up☝️☝️.
@James F
Why do some Irish people like Palestinians?
Is it just because of having similar suffering & cause ?
Or is there more about it?
@@anotheraccount2576
And who said otherwise !?
Jews did own lands in Palestine.
But the Fascist Terrorist regime called zionism went against the Jewish religion & didn't mind sacrificing more than half the Jewish race in order to start this cancerous system called isreal!
@@anotheraccount2576
Check For starters the information from Anti-zionists Jews like:
● Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss
● Norman Gary Finkelstein
● Ilan Pappé
@@mohyaldin6492 I’m pretty sure there is a strong anti Radical Zionist movement among the Jews too.
@@owo5869
That's why Zionism is not Semitic.
When the palestinians speak about peace agreements i feel like they can't even think of it as an option. And the leaders should really lead the people to think more about peace and less about terror. The problem is that in their mind a peace agreement means like other said in the video "to give up" and it's totally wrong to think like that.
It's the courage to take a decision now that will make your children to live a much better life than you have.
Well said!
We dont want peace we want freedom according to 1967 borders but israel keeps building settlements in our lands and killing our children netenyahu said it him self he will never allow a palestinian state
Well try doing that when the occupier keep stealing your land, destroying your homes, makes it unbearablt difficult for you to move then to add insult to injury, gave subsidised homes to only jews on what used to be your land. How can you tell the victims to just let criminal get away and deal with it? Are you even human?
Jewish supporters say "It's over, we won"
Palestinians say "I didn't hear a bell"
Question: if they decide to continue their fight, there's nothing wrong with that, right?
But if they decide to approach it in a violent way, why is israel morally wrong by retaliating with force? Isn't it "you live by the sword, you die by the sword?"
@@PiecefulKaos overall your logic is correct but you are missing key details in relation to this particular conflict
1. Israel completely withdrew from gaza back in 2005 they no longer occupy that area, it was done as an attempt to kick start peace negotiations, however, that area was taken over by hamas who is firing rockets at israel.
2. Hamas does not recognise israel as a state and openly calls for the genocide of jews ( you can find it easily online)
3. Would you be willing to give further land and strategic points to a group of people who wishes your death and took advantage of it in the past to fire rockets at you?
4. Negotiation of a two state solution were offered 5 times by israel and were met with decline, you are dealing with a group of people that have the mentality of "all or nothing" how do you make peace with a group like that?
5. The Palestinians are far from innocent in terms of how they treat jews, in times before the "occupation" or the state of israel, assaults on jewish settlements occurred very often (read about the hebron massacre 1929)
6. The assumption that the weaker side is just is incorrect, there is no virtue in weakness, israel fought for these lands against 5 nations including the Palestinians and won just like any other nation in the world
7. Look up how minorities in dominant Muslim states are treated vs how arabs are treated in israel (you'll find shocking disparities)
8. It is unreasonable to expect the jews to just get up and leave this area especially since they're the ones who built it from nothing (that land was literally filled with swamps and desserts)
In conclusion, peace will come to that area once the Palestinians admit defeat, recognise israel as a state, negotiate for a state of their own and work together with israel, if they are so inclined to use violence to achieve their goals, they are free to do that but as the saying goes "you live by the sword, you die by the sword"
@@danny3640 couldn't said it more accurate.
But there wasn't desserts here... just deserts
@@DIY-Mechanic whoops lol, swamps and cakes
@@sidh196 do you think israel has a right to exist?
It really hit when that last interviewee said that he is feeling less than Israelis. No citizen should feel like that in their own country.
*Jer.32:* 20 “Ah, Sovereign Lord, You performed signs and wonders in Egypt and have continued them to this day, in Israel and among all mankind, and have gained the renown that is still yours.
21You brought your people Israel out of Egypt with signs and wonders, by a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with great terror.
22You gave them this land you had sworn to give their ancestors, a land flowing with milk and honey.
23They came in and took possession of it, but they did not obey you or follow your law; they did not do what you commanded them to do. So you brought all this disaster on them.
*Num.33:* 55“ ‘But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live. 56And then I will do to you what I plan to do to them.’ ”
@@Sola-Scriptura444 Bro if your religion actually says this then fuck this religion. Racism at its finest. These are pure nazism thoughts that came from germans against Jews. I can't believe that Jews who were oppressed became the oppressors against Palestinians.
Your God is evil and you know it
I actually started to consider that it's so difficult to move around freely because of all of the terrorists constantly trying to kill israeli's. And a reasonable reaction would be to protect yourself, be cautious, and in the end, it alienates innocent people. If that's the case, what can even be done?
@@alsakati3340
*Zechariah.12:* 1This is the burden of the word of the LORD concerning Israel.
Thus declares the LORD, who stretches out the heavens and lays the foundation of the earth, who forms the spirit of man within him:
2“Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples. Judah will be besieged, as well as Jerusalem.
3On that day, when all the nations of the earth gather against her, I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who would heave it away will be severely injured.
4On that day, declares the LORD, I will strike every horse with panic, and every rider with madness. I will keep a watchful eye on the house of Judah, but I will strike with blindness all the horses of the nations.
5Then the leaders of Judah will say in their hearts: ‘The people of Jerusalem are my strength, for the LORD of Hosts is their God.’
6On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among the sheaves; they will consume all the peoples around them on the right and on the left, while the people of Jerusalem remain secure there.
7The LORD will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and of the people of Jerusalem may not be greater than that of Judah.
8On that day the LORD will defend the people of Jerusalem, so that the weakest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the LORD going before them.
9So on that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
@@alsakati3340
*Jeremiah.33:* 2“This is what the LORD says-the LORD who made the earth, who formed and established it, whose name is the LORD: 3Ask me and I will tell you remarkable secrets you do not know about things to come.
Germany and Japan admitted they lost WW2 and they didn't "lose everything".
They lost to America not Israel, completely different countries
Germany got split and occupied for half a century, and Japan got its whole government rewritten and is not allowed to militarize anymore. The only part of Japan that is still Japanese is their Emperor, who is more a figurehead than anything. They lost everything.
No, and they were actual countries. The ones that lost to Israel were the Arab countries in 1948/1967. They lost the territories they were occupying. The Arab countries had 19 years to establish a Palastinain country- but they didnt really give a crap about the actual people.
This was completely different.
@@boredom1312 but both nations are happy and prosperous tho. Both are literally in top 10 best economies.
The Palestinians rejected all of the peace agreements offered. They never offered one.
Very impressed with all these answers. Respectful and honest. This whole situation really saddens me and I hate that politicians and citizens in my country seem to have such a myopic view of the conflict. It's anything but black and white.
pls it is not a conflict its an apertheid. to say it is a conflict it is like saying what the south africans went through during mandela's time a conflict.
its not black and white,israel should have never been established and thats it
@@ludbamaha3406 I mean...if we're talking literal definition then it is most certainly a conflict. It can be both terms. I get what you're saying but also keep in mind - - focusing too much on semantics can annoy people and just turn them off of the whole issue.
@@nikodemdobrenko3680 But it has been so what do you expect realistically to happen? All the Jewish Israelis to just get up and leave to a different country?
What most people don’t know or care to do research about, is the fact that a lot of Palestinian (not Britain, but Palestinians) land owners sold their land to Jewish people for 10x the average rate for land at the time. When more and more Jewish people were buying land, the Palestinians started to get upset. They wanted those Jewish people to give the land back, for nothing in return. The Jewish people said no, because they now owned the land, LEGALLY. So, it sparked a war. The Jewish people were severely outnumbered, but they had very good intelligence officers and were able to strategically win the war in 1948 WITHOUT the help of anyone else. The world was like, “I’m not getting involved in that”, and Israel was alone in the fight. Israel has tried over 5 times to offer a two state solution to the Palestinians, and they refuse every time. Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 and completely left them alone, to manage their own government. The Palestinians living in Israel would rather live with Jews in Israel than go live in Gaza under the rule of Hamas, because Israeli’s lives with them peacefully. I’m making Aliyah to Israel next spring, and I just hope in the future that a peaceful solution can be agreed upon. I think everyone just wants to live in peace and most Jews are willing to do that if the Palestinians will just agree to live together, peacefully.
Corey, you are wrong to say palestinians since 1948.... No Arab has identified as palestinian until July 1964.
And starting the count in 1948 overlooks earlier events.
Corey you need to stop cutting people off when they are still talking.
The last guy made a lot of sense. If Israelis and Palestinians were like him in thinking, that would be a huge leap foward
That last guy was very real about how he feels as an Israeli Arab/Palestinian (not sure whether he has citizenship) and I respect that.
He doesnt have citizenship- he claims he lives on "the other side" and has to get permits to come into Israel.
He doesn't have citizenship. His Ivrit was perfect though. I didn't hear much of an Arabic accent when he spoke either. So many Arabs live happily and peacefully w/Israeli citizenship throughout Israel. They actually won whatever wars there were.
@@TheRanaro Salvation* can be found in no other name under Heaven other than THE NAME of Jesus THE CHRIST/BSHEM *YESHUA* HA MASHIACH. for HE alone IS THE ONLY WAY THE ONLY TRUTH and THE ONLY WAY to Eternal life and no one gets to HASHEM/GOD ecept through HIM. so i only ask all who are here if not already to please choose this day to trust in YESHUA HA MASHIACH that HE died in your place to make atonement for your sins that was seperating you from GOD so that by believing this and trusting in HIM that HE rose from the grave that you too by believing in HIM will one day rise from the dead and have eternal life and be saved from The Terrifying Wrath of HASHEM that is to come to all who reject YESHUA as THE MESSIAH of Israel and SAVIOR of The Whole World that HE rightly, truly IS. i ask please do this so that even today will be your *Day of Salvation*
@@jasonkemmerer5654 again..kindly keep your idolatry to yourself. You're repeating age-old arguments that don't hold water in monotheistic thought and theology like Judaism, and even more so with me. You wish to worship a dead Jew, then by all means, knock yourself out. But, don't think that you can bring that crap this way, as you won't get anywhere.
@@jasonkemmerer5654 Religion fanatics, begone.
I appreciate how many people are willing to keep calm and and answer without rage and becoming defensive or combative with the team. I do wonder, however, if you often have to edit out people cursing, shouting, or sending you off with insults.
He has answered those questions in the video Q and A, answered by him and the translator.
@@ef2718 I saw that...Thank You.
@@ef2718 And what was the answer?
I think he never cut or achieve any footage in his all his videos. all real.
@@StaryzHelios most of times he stops filming when he gets insulted or when the situation get a bit violent. I saw some videos where people got really heated so he had to remove himself from the situations.
It's a conflict no one can decide when to stop ..it is a political issue..there are leaders who controls the situation not the normal people
Good comment!
TRue. The normal guy only died.
I know right? Also, I think nobody ever wins a conflict. Even wars, it's not like the people lost don't just come back, you know? I feel like both sides do get hurt a lot.
@@solvingpolitics3172 .
@Ant B yes
The Jamil guy at 2:18 made some fairly accurate remarks.
The reactions by these people and also the comments are so civilized while there is so much destruction going on. I feel humbled.
Yep it’s not bbc buddy, they would never show this
If they gave up, they'd be treated like how native americans are in the US. Isn't that accurate? They'll be relocated or left in the same place maybe, but Palestine would not become its own country and israel will acquire all that land as its own rewriting maps.
Exactly. The alternative is exile or living as second class citizens in their homeland (which they already are). They should fight to be granted equal rights with Israelis and the right to return
Imbecile.
Very true sister
Nah dude just accepting the loss and get to negotiations and peace. Will give them a Palestine country and move forward you see the Arab countries and see how bad they are.
Which is exactly what’s happening right now. East Jerusalem
They fear a genocide that never occurred, even when Israel had every opportunity. In the end its about saving face and 'honour' , not about pragmatism or building a future. I think this type of thinkingl is keeping its own people hostage. There were tens of millions of people displaced after World War 1 and 2. If everyone of them kept clinging to the idea of their 'right' , right or wrong, there would never have been peace and prosperity. You can't live on 'honour'. True honour lies in the courage to be pragmatic.
Excellent post
The 4 millions Palestinians are going nowhere. Either they get more land or become " Israelis", which means in a couple of decades they're going to outnumber the Jews. Palestina won a long time ago.
Very true. It also fighted a proxy war for great powers.
Pride and ego.
I very much reccomend to you the book Israel: a utopia by Omri Boehm.
Don’t EVER give up!
State funded on reparations from holocaust and look at them
Admit defeat
Says an arab living in the West
@@dr1flush 1948 war your friends lost because of reparations?
@@zavtradnem what?
The lady who said 'it's all about the money' speaks some wisdom right there
It is not about money; it has turned from a land war to a religious war. The Palestinians have received billions of dollars in aid; why do they not have money and why do they still beg and weep for money. The lady should ask Mahmoud Abbas what he did with the money and has she seen his mansion in Ramallah? Arafat was worth billions when he went to his....., wherever he went?
it’s about following in the footsteps of Mohammed and anniwilating the Jews
@@gidonbendavid3168 7th century backward and fanatical ideology fails every time.
@@avirose194
Everything you just said does actually prove that it *IS*about the money; it's about the money that Abbas and his cronies receive. 🤦♀️They need to repent. May G-d save their souls because it's a terrible thing to fall into the wrath of the Lord.
It’s not about money , it’s about destabilisation , genocide and hostility that and the fear , confusion and hate that comes with it that makes a region easier to control . So let’s just be real here , it’s not about money , it’s not about government and it’s not about religion . It’s about the plan for the so called greater Israel by destabilising and weakening the surrounding regions making it easier to conquer and control .
Many other ethnicities have lost land from war, have been treated bad when ruled by the conquers. At the end, you got to accept the defeat and move forward. And when the day comes ( it could take many years ) go back and get what you believe is yours. Palestinians, no one is coming next to you to fight with you to help you. Every government just talks and talks. Sending you weapons unfortunately doesn’t help you and it has been proven for many years. I’m not agreeing what the Israelis are doing but as a nation , you need sometimes to put your pride on the side and move forward to get stronger. 🇵🇸✌️🇮🇱
Lmao that is such an incendiary question.
It’s a great one
Yeah, I'm surprised it went that well.
He’s very gentle and appeasing to Muslims you should check out how he talks to israelis
Where democracy is valued and you can be blunt about anything which will get you k ill ed in the Palestinian authorities
It’s meant to be a provocative question.
This comment section is scary & full of hate. I haven’t even graduated high school yet, if becoming adult means making fun of people saying they won’t give up. Guess adults are no better than a bully. Surely, they don’t stand a chance when israel now is backed by US but doesn’t mean you can make fun and laugh about it... mean.
Yt is not for children
You shouldn't expect much from a youtube comment section
All sorts of people come here,The craziest of people I mean
Sometimes I feel like this comment section is a Mental Asylum
From the amount of crazy people I've encountered I became crazy myself so please don't bother with commenting here because it will mess with your brain believe me
for people who say "they don't know they already lost" well ... as long as they exist they never lost ,they will reform and take there rights, power shifts nations rise and collapse it's the life cycle that will never be broken till the last day
As soon as we decide we are fed up they’ll be gone within minutes
@@gidonbendavid3168 i like the arrogance it's every nation's nail im the coffin ...keep it
@@yossofsroor8520 exactly
@@yossofsroor8520 this is very solvable.
@@dogbert52 if you referring to the conflict, yes it's one and only solution one state the right to return law applies for all 3~6 million refugee all isreales and Palestinens live in one state with equal rights and try to be one nation and share all the land it will bepretty hard and need years to pave the way to implement it but it can happen if Zionists let go of their beliefs and extreme jews stopped believing they are superior people and better than the other humans beings and have the right to take the other's rights as long it fits their faith.
Feb 11, 1990, Nelson Mandela was released from from Victor Verster Prison, outside Cape Town, South Africa, after 27 years. Mandela gave a speech & quoted himself in 1964, when headed to prison:
“I have fought against white domination and I have fought against black domination.. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die."
True to that. RIP
Let's remember the main reason why apartheid collapsed was the 1992 referendum where only whites could vote, and they decided to end it. Admitting defeat DOES bring peace
1:03 "Maybe if you gave up, there would be a Palestinian State in the West Bank"
Sorry to say but the most naive comment I've heard. Do you think the expansion of the illegal settlements would respect this treaty?
If that would bring real peace then definitely. Israel removed thousands of Israeli Jews from Gaza, from their homes, where they lived for generations, in hope for peace. But instead of peace they got a border with a terror regime. So Israel fears that giving up land means making space for terror.
@@saskia9879 did you mean Gaza? You’re completely correct, but you meant Gaza right?
@@clintfowler1526 sorry yes Gaza. Changed it.
@ATG IMM quoting people on things they said 50 years ago is not a way to approach any solution.
@ATG IMM I can tell you what I want. Hamas and PIJ and all the rest of them Terrorists gone. As long as you have people in power on one side that want to kill the Jews and the Jews who don't want to be killed and neither side is willing to compromise there will never be peace. If the Palestinians lay down their weapons there will be peace, if Israel will lay down their weapons there won't be any Israel anymore.
This kind of reminds me of the separations of Poland which occurred in 1795 and the reemergence of the country in 1918, the first words of the national anthem are: Poland still exists while we are alive. That's 102 years after it's revival, its a song written 223 years ago.
So no, people don't tend to forget.
There is small difference. There were never such country as Palestine. And Poland recieved independence only because Russian Empire collapsed
@@DartLuke means nothing, the province was always called Palestine for over a thousand years. The ppl who always lived are todays modern Palestinians. So yeah its pretty much indistinguishable from an actual country.
One of those questions that makes me thing "dang, Corey's got some guts" . A similar question, "Palestinians,who is responsible for the loss of wars against Israel".
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LOSS OF LAND AND DIGNITY WERE THE ARABS WHO REJECTED A HOMELAND SINCE 1937.
Rejectionism - Over 100 Years of Chronic Arab Rejectionism
www.mythsandfacts.org/Conflict/6/rejectionism.htm
Over 100 Years of Chronic Arab Rejectionism. The history of the Arab-Israeli conflict reveals 24 major junctures when compromise was offered since the 1920s, dating from pre-state, League of Nations Mandate to the present time. Plan after plan, including patently pro-Arab proposals, were put on the table.
He should ask them why are they following in the footsteps of Mohammed and k ing Jews??
Last I checked, the guy's a giant compared to most people. Easy to not be afraid of smaller people.
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@@avirose194 lol no
Asking the oppressed to give up is one of the most vile things to ask
They already gave up and lost.Thats not a human opinion, its the logical outcome. The vile thing is to be in denial about it.
My question is, why can't Isreal give equal representation in government? Problem would be nearly solved.
What does equal in a democracy mean? There's Arab parties in the knesset and they have as many mandates according to how many people voted for them.
People in Gaza and the Westbank are under their own government.
@@ah9034 in israel there are arab parties in the government, you have arab ministers and arabs are free to vote for them so wtf are you talking about
Arabs make up 20% of population in Israel but Arab politicians get only 4% of sits in the Knesset. Many Israeli Arabs do not feel represented well by “their own” Arab politicians and vote for Jewish parties or do not vote at all.
They lost cause it wasn’t a fair fight they don’t have weapons while Israeli are funded with billions
Even with swords Israel will win partly. But never totally Because their God made it so
Iran has been amply furnishing Hamas with weapons.
@@QuakerPop Lmaoo compared to israel they have 0
@@FM-uz8kn 4000 rockets. If it wasn't for Iron Dome, it would have been an utter massacre. They accuse Israel of genocide? Really? Israel could turn Gaza into glass if it wanted to. Meanwhile, all of israel's (arab) neighbors have slaughtered their own citizens - and christians - to the tune of MILLIONS, and would NEVER allow any jews to live there.
They won in 1948,with low class weapons, Palestinians are supplied with rockets by hamas, Palestinians will never win because Israel is protected by God himself
Always delete the comments because you only want to hear what you like
Yes if you say the wrong words it automatically get deleted sadly
yes ultra bias
@Sydney Lachien Some of it is Corey and you're naive if you think YT always coincidently keeps only the Zionist comments.
@Sydney Lachien Yes YTs algorithm always keeps Zionist comments on almost all videos even outside Corey's videos but they coincidently only remove anti Zionist comments and usually only remain on less viral anti Zionist videos. Israel does nothing but make bullshit up and if you don't believe it be you Arab European or Asain you screech antisemitism. Why don't you sit down and understand people don't believe you and no matter how much you gaslight and shame people we know how you've lied.
@shani isreal I'm a Christian Arab, and no, it isn't, it's you.
i feel sad to see sadness in their face
It's a national psychosis.
@@notabene4677 No, this is because they are occupied and murdered by people who claim to be the chosen ones, just like the nazis. Jews are not different from Nazis.
Sad but Indeed They Are The Strong Fighters Has Been Fightered For 72 Years For Palestine's Land
When they speak English the accent is so cute...
"We do not surrender - we win or die. You've to fight the next generation and the next... and I'll live more than my hanger. " Said Omar Al-Mukhtar
The Jewish people have built a country.
The Arabs have achieved?
@@Linda43 it was fairly built by it's people (aboriginal Palestinians including Jewish,and Christians) before Zionists come !! you have to look at photos of Palestine before 1984. anyway, even if it wasn't built, this doesn't justify occupation !! you can't go to some rural African tribes , take their land, and kill them just because they didn't "build" !!
@@bilalbataineh8367
The Jewish people are the native sons and daughters of Southern Levant.
Our history goes back more than 4000 years.
The Arabs in Israel are a mixed bag of different nationalities from the region.
They are the occupiers.
The Jewish aliyah in the 1800s built Israel and we have continued to build our beautiful country.
@@Linda43 Ever heard of Ibn Khaldun, Umar Khayyam and Abu Rahyan al-Biryuni?
نحن لن نستسلم. ننتصر او نموت.
As an immigrant to America, the first lesson I learned as a child was that life was not fair. Over time, I learned that with money life became more fair and an important part of the learning was how and when to negotiate. I have heard several prominent as well as the average Palestinians talk about fairness as if it was an entitlement. While I sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, I find the responses to these interviews simply frustrating and incomprehensible, leaving me with the feeling that nothing can be done to resolve this situation. Maybe the only thing for America to do is back away and do nothing.
I am Palestinian, frankly speaking most of my people have the right but they don’t know how to represent the answer logically
It's easy.
1. The Arabs have an "enemy" which is not interested in destroying them.
So they don't have an incentive to surrender.
Think about WW2. The Allies had totally obliterated most of German cities and were going to obliterate all of them unless the Germans were agreeing to a total surrender.
2. In the Arab world there is no meaning to surrender or agreements in general. Everything is a deception. It's not like with Germany for example. They were fighting like H, but when they finally surrendered that was it. They did not cheat.
@Давай, До Свидания! Google is censoring aggressively.
But look up "Hudna".
@Давай, До Свидания! giving up ?never.As people we are one of the stringest ou there and we will figth for our culture ,land and rigths.
@Давай, До Свидания! palestine j
They should learn to think for themselves and stop repeating their leaders words.
You can not be defeated when you have faith.
@Blixi Bubba You don't sound like you have either of them. Stick to what you know.
@Blixi Bubba Winners don’t complain or argue while surviving on aid :)
10:50 brilliant answer
Indonesia majority of muslim maybe 83-85% Indonesia is'nt islam country
But relligius country. In there, many relligion, muslim, cristian, hiduisme, budhism. there worship peacefully without any interference from other people.
actually no, they all get interfered with by muslim people there. I love muslim people, but those other religions are treated as second class in indonesia. You know what would be really true example of islamic values? If muslims protested for the rights of those religious minorities.
Not really. Islam interferes with all other religions.
@Safri Medan, are you kidding bro? Even I myself Indonesian muslims I have to admit that those right winger religious groups always giving a pressure to our non muslim brothers in Indonesia, the christians nowdays have still got a persecution from those FPI crooks.
@@fikarrizalyudhistira7145 Not only pressure nonmuslims, also pressure indonesian muslims on how to practice, despite there was always a diversity of Islamic practice within Indonesia. The Sufi influences for example are not tolerated as much in Arabia. And yes some muslims did not wear a head scarf, whether that is haram or not is a matter for theological debate, or else there never would have been so many Mosque going Muslims not wearing it. Even 15 years ago it was normal for a Muslima to wait until marriage to wear a headscarf.
Let alone exact arabic style of clothing as opposed to an old indonesian islamic dress.
Very depressing.
11:34 Articulate man is incapable of imagining a military victory which does not result in genocide and expulsion, even though his own parents experienced one in 1967.
7:50 Psychological projection. If the Palestinians gave up, the Jews would slaughter them. He believes this because he knows that this is what his own side would do, if they won. The fact that he has not been slaughtered, even though the Jews have the military might to accomplish this in a few days, makes no impression upon him. There's plenty more in this video.
9:09 Here's the only one who gets to the root of the matter. "We'd lose our honor". Arab honor requires a permanent denial of even the possibility of defeat. This is why they all still carry their great-grandfather's house keys. The other interviewees are not so straightforward, which is why you get the evasions which seem so comical to western ears, e.g. at 0:36, when he is asked what you would lose if you surrendered, and gives a list of things which he has already lost, plus one thing which was actually given to him by Israel (area A) in a treaty.
11:34
The expulsions and genocide happened mostly in 1947-48, expulsions did continue during and after 1967 in settelemnt expansions and complex laws designed to keep Palestinians out. But regardless, if Israel could get away with it, and the world wasn't watching , they'd do it in a heart beat.
7:50
Mind reading.
9:09
You're not western, you're a Zionist. So of course you don't understand what honor and dignity is about.
0:36
Okay fair, but then what's the point of the question if the worst had already happened? What would Israel gain by "Palestinians admitting defeat" if they've got all they need?
As to "israel giving him", LMFAO, thieves who steal your land and give you a lil something soemthing back? yeah he should bow down in awe and kiss their soles!
No country will step in to help these people. They The Far Right in Israel are Stripping ALL humanity from these people, they are brave and patient. May God bless them
' Power tends to Corrupt '....they may be stronger than us but what keeps us strong is our IMAN
Lose so many time
Nd saying iman is strong
They didn’t, the battle of Palestine is not determined yet
Of course it is.
@@rumamarciano4974 no international borders are yet recognized, it is still not determined
@@samnatt248
Then our options are open and our borders flexible.
@@rumamarciano4974 what options have you got left? Other than securing a western passport!
@@samnatt248
A good suggestion for the Arabs in Israel.
They can join the long line of immigrants to the West.
I love it when we get to see Ramallah or other places in the PA territories. Some questions are awfully naive, though.
Palestinians, why can't you admit that you keep losing to the Jews?
On camera noch ??
*“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”* - Golda Meir
* Arabs - Today called Palestinians.
We love our children but we hate the occupation
Poor you the people you opress dont like you that much they were called palestinians before the european zionists came to historic palestine read a book once in a while it might help you out although i dont believe anything can get through your thick head. peace will come when either they leave the palestinians and let them have their state that is fair without settlements although thats nearly impossible now since settelers have worked hard to make sure of that or have an actual democratic country and give the right of return to the palestinian refugees and actually live in peace by giving the citzens full rights although that would be the end of the zionist state since there are currently more palestinians world wide than israelies but ofcourse you dont want the racism to stop. you like feeling above others. If you trully want peace be just to all people.
Hahaha
Peace will come when jews leave this land
'My grandfather'
@@omarawad5705 First of all please don't call anyone stupid just because you don't agree with him. I'd like to know what being just to all people means to you lol. @Starhopper has a point. A few Palestinians are so focused in hating Israel that they don't really care for how their nation lives. Hamas does exactly that- They take all the money they get intended for creating a nice place in Gaza for people, and use it for digging up tunnels to attack Israel. Or the Palestinian government who literally pay millions of dollars a year for terrorists to attack innocent Israeli people. There is never an excuse for terror. I condemn both terror towards Palestinians and towards Jews. I recommend you do the same.
@@mbellis7557 being just is giving equal rights to people no matter what their race is. that means arabs get to vote thats very clear and simple. i said "be just"after i had said if they want peace they should make it one state since there are no other options now and give rights to all of its citzens as well as give the right of return to the palestinian refugees and let people live together and i didnt even mention hamas why are you bringing them up and isnt the israeli ocupation of the west bank and terrorising its people considered terrorism or do you only associate terrorism with arabs or muslims stop with the hypocracy. you are clearly not only biased but you also have morally questionable views. Palestinians have the right to ressist foreign occupation according to the UN laws and common sense although i dont really care what the UN says but the occupation clearly does since they have recognised the zionist state and they always bring that up. We are not going to reach a conclusion here since most people are genarally closed minded and the comment section isnt really a good place to change someones mind since i have never seen or heard of that ever happening i just want to bring up the hypocrasy of the ocupation and lack of moral consistency they keep expanding their territories while destroying the palestinians homes and villages how can that possibly be just while killing and attacking all those who protest peacfully or violently while calling them terrorists for protecting their lands. those with sincere hearts will always keep searching for the truth thats what keeps me hopefull.
I'm just somebody from southeast asian countries, we literally comprised of many different types of cultures and beliefs. Hope you guys can get along some day.
If you say so. So u do not understand the palestinan case. There is nothing called israel. In WW2 some people immigrated from europe running away from nazis. And they gave them terriritories inside palestine which does not belong to them. And after that they kept expanding and occupying new lands. So how you want them to live together
@@Mohamed-fs1kc Isn't this how the Arabs took the Middle East in the first place?
@@EroticOnion23 Arabs are from the middle east duh. unlike european zionist invading the middle east.
@@Rook.Kaiser Israelis are from Israel hence the name?? 🤔
@@EroticOnion23 then what was jews doing in poland then ? and whats all that about coming on boats and asking Britain for a border after world war 2 and the balfour declaration. also there is an ancient map naming the place "filistine". all zionist have is a story of a people of Israel in the middle east then claiming it was their ancestors 2000 years late rofl. move on fool.
"All these palestinians who have money are not living here." Meanwhile, a white BMW drives by slowly. 5:00
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That was a Mercedes
it was a marriage car
2.59 Shops and businesses...0.20 decent apartments behind the man...4.35 nice white car passes the lady...5.55 Asphalt streets and developed sidewalks/pavements. According to the world bank GDP per capita in the Palestinian territories for 2019 is $3463. That's more than most Arab countries and far better than sub-Saharan Africa. These people are not oppressed! That's why I stopped caring about the Palestinian cause. So exaggerated!
@@Khaled91 P. S, GDP per capita of developed countries is way higher, Israel for example is above $42,000, but they do have way better living standards then Africa and some arab countries (Unless you're talking about gaza, It's quite a bit worse then the west bank and might be harder to compare). Also GDP is by year not by month.
Where is Monamie? She interprets much better. I hope she is well.
She isn't allowed to just go anywhere, there are restrictions so Corey has to find different people for each area.
@Rabolisk nonsense she could go with him anywhere and those are just out of old videos before she was working with him
@@Rabolisk where do you get that info from?
Actually I thought this guy is better
@@gidonbendavid3168 you are right!! But also when Corey asks in Israel I cant be with him unless I have a permit, which is rare in normal situations, and with COVID it's impossible.
Keep watching and share!
Amazing that interviewer hasn’t had his lights punched out.
He takes questions from UA-cam also he commonly asks controversial questions. Also, the Palestinians are not new to occupation. They've been under occupation for centuries and yet they persist.
Don't ask Palestinian people like that. It's not about win or lose. It's about the justice to the people.
Wanting to steal what the Jews built and sacrificing your children to do so “justice”
These Palestinian Muslims display great character of what a Muslim should act as. May Allah grant them success in this world and hereafter.
Not accepting the partition plans each time, then going to war each time and losing each time is like me getting my marks back on an exam with the corrections on it and changing it to all the right answers and handing it back in and expecting to get 100%
What an insensitive question to ask . No one has lost and no one has won as long as they are both in this situation
Israel wins because they get to take more land as long as there is a conflict. I bet you they won’t take more land from Jordan or Egypt.
Whay they don't made a palestinian state before 1967?
Because the Arabs never recognize the 2 states solution, if Israel was defeated no Palestine would ever established.
What kind of question is that? With all these questions I hope the guy that owns this Channel stays safe, coz it’s question like this that makes people get killed
If asking a question like that makes you want to kill people then you should be locked up in a insane asylum for the rest of your life
I agree. I feel like this question has a subliminal agenda to it. It’s just a disgusting question and someone should slap him already !
@@yusufbrayam582 oh you don't like freedom of speech?
@@yusufbrayam582 a slap, is fine.....but not killing anyone over a question
Support from Ireland for our Palestinian brothers in conflict 🇵🇸 🇮🇪 ✊
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As a Jewish American, I respect their resolve, and their right to exist. Israel doesn't represent all jews.
This is going to be a good one.
like how?
Very good
@@Whatever4867 because it’s going to be humiliating to Palestinians. That’s what they like.
@@zaidal-hindawi1784 just because they’re showing they are delusional and embarrassing themselves has nothing to do with what we want what we wanted was to live peacefully in our ancestral homeland and we will not stop until we achieve that
@Roy Wales ?
This is a provocative question and clip. Stirring and inciting clip. The guy interviewing is an outsider deliberately out to cause trouble between Arabs and Jews.
I don’t understand this.
They did lose.
3 times.
The wars are over.
They didn't because they won't give up
If they give up they are afraid they will lose their free handouts
the guy at 3:45 said the right thing. respect. he got a point. Israel got support meanwhile Palestine got not much support
What kind of question is that ? Arab and jews !
Most palestinian have levantine dna and this is arabize land and the jews is a branch of arab people.
Yes that's true Jews and Arabs are cousins
@@lalo4958 all humans are related still there is no room for zombie land or g members in our society
@@gidonbendavid3168 💩💩💩💩💩💩
@@lalo4958 are you upset that you were not invited since you’re not a virgin anymore??
@@gidonbendavid3168 Ben David? Seems awfully familiar hm
If its in sports, we called it hard losers.
This attitude could be manipulated and exploited by extremists for their advantage.
The brittish should never left palestine, they should kept it as a colony for many years to come
Listening to most of what they say feels like arguing with a child.
They were educated with the exact same hate the 3rd Reich educated their children.
Yeah it almost as pathetic as hearing a Russian or American jew telling me the levante is his natural homeland
@@bernardobiritiki it's insane
@@bernardobiritiki muslims have Zombieland with Mohammed’s or g
If they surrender like the Germans and Japanese imagine how rich they would be now.
Don't make a compare with it. It's a different situation, usa didn't want to occupate land. At the time, japan and germany roles were same as the israel now
@@guntursetiawan7465 if you're comparing Israel to Germany or Japan then you sure are on some sort of crack cocaine and need to go back to basic history lessons. It was the Arabs who aligned themselves with the Nazis. I request that you look up the Grand mufti of Jerusalem - he was a personal friend of Hitler and helped raise SS troops from the Balkans
@@guntursetiawan7465 and the US did occupy land. It occupied Japan and Germany for many years as well as the Philippines and many other countries that
@@mdstate829
It is a majority vs minority conflict.
The Muslim Arab majority of the region is not accepting the existance of a free country of a minority, be it Assyrian, Maronite, Druze or Allah forbid Jews.
German and Japan willingly participated in that war. Israel was created against the will of Palestinians, they were forcefully removed. They are fighting back.
So, actually they can establish their own state on the territory they are currently populate. Anytime. With the full support of Israel. But they prefer the current situation, when they "occupied", but claiming "all Palestine" (laundry world for Israel).
Please, one of you, define Palestine at any time in recorded history when it was ruled, governed or even occupied by PALESTINIANS FOR PALESTINIANS.
Palestine was only a geographical region named by a Roman Hadrian in 135AD renaming the JEWISH KINGDOMS OF JUDEA AND SAMARIA.
Palestine named by a Roman and Palestinians invented by an Egyptian in 1964.
The closest Palestinians ever came to Jerusalem or to the West bank (JUDEA and SAMARIA), was through the ILLEGAL JORDANIAN OCCUPATION in 1948 to 1967.
Even Bethlehem was granted to the Palestinians under Oslo 1993.
No you be quiet you fat fool,YOU BE QUIET!
@Arthur Morgan 😂🤣😂🤣😎
@@arthurmorgan7312
Go hate somewhere else
It doesn’t matter if there’s no historical Palestine. Syria was also never a country, it was a region too. The world changes. Once upon a time there was no Israel until there is. And right now, once upon a time there was no Palestine until there is.
You're making it sound like Israel's occupation and settlement was totally legal.
From this video, it is obvious that the Arabs don't even believe their own words.
It would be far less painful if they just gave it up entirely and accepted their fate.
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They are winning they are all getting front tickets to Mohammed’s or g if you disturb or take Jewish life the better your seat is
@@gidonbendavid3168
Transfer
@@rumamarciano4974 You're a massive joke Linda
@@rumamarciano4974 "Give up" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What Palestine needs is to establish a unique palestinian currency. So many people throughout the globe would invest (and that's just those with a political agenda) and then they could reinvest into their infrastructure and see how things develop from there.
Investing in a place where the money goes towards rockets and weapons aim to wipe Israel? This is karma i believe. If the Palestinians actually made effort to embetter their economy and livelihood, they might have received more respect from Israelis. They spend all those moneys waging silly wars leaving their economy in shambles.
They have their currency, the Jordanian dinar.
@@olegvmail no, the Jordanian Dinar is the currency of Jordan which is a separate sovereign country.
@@zaidal-hindawi1784 Jordanian dinar is the currency arabs are using in Judea and Samaria. Is this an incorrect information?
@@olegvmail there is no country now in 2021 called Judea and Samaria. There is a country called Jordan and it’s currency is the Jordanian Dinar.
When you want everything you end up with nothing
Long live Israel the land of the Jewish people
Crazy how much influence Zayd ibn Thabit's (d. 655) political regime has till this day.
gosh please get better translators... they often rephrase the questions/answers and giving another meaning ....
I think the “1948” arab israeli’s should be empowered to show how much better off everyone would be if they just accepted this premise.
@opener of the world where were arab leaders for sadats funeral?
@opener of the world i did watch it, and i’m an egyptian habibi, but you didn’t answer my question. Where were the other arab leaders for sadats funeral? Where were the israelis? I know you know the answer: the arabs didn’t bother even sending a delegation, absolutely disrespectful. The israeli’s and even americans attended it. I don’t live in the past i learn from it. My allies of yesterday can stab me in the back tomorrow and my enemy today may be the one who pulls it out.
It is much more politically, strategically and economically advantageous for egypt to align itself more and more with israel. Sadat was a visionary in this aspect of his goals of egypts future. If anything he was too ahead of the times he lived in.
@@coletrain411 I wish more Egyptians thought like you, then perhaps there could be peace. The UAE and israel were quick to establish cultural ties after the recent Abrahamic accords, unfortunately Egypt and Israel today only enjoy good security ties but not cultural ones.
I dream of a day that this too will change.
@@coletrain411 isreali here , I know I shouldn't like Sadat because he attacked us in the Yom Kippur war . But it was a great leader and he got you what the Egyptian wanted even if it was the most violent wars in Israel history and there was no clear winner ( even if I would say we won because we pushed you back but you got to sinai back after the peace talks so there's no clear winner) and I wish he was alive more time to change our region for the better love from Israel 🇮🇱❤️🇪🇬
@@danfriedman2556 both of our governments at different points in time had leaders who abused our trauma’s from the past (h***c**t for my jewish cousins, European/ottoman colonialism for us) for their own gain and to build their own popularity domestically.
Yitzhak and sadat’s killers respectively are a good example of why we both are better off closer than apart.
What’s really sad is the amount of blood on our hands that we can never wash away regardless of either side feeling justified.
"I lost all my youth, the best years of my life you might say and I lost so many friends. A few medals don't make up for that. Nobody wins in a war, they lost but we didn't win."
That last fellow made the best case for the Palestinian side.
Arabs didn't lose to Israelis, we lost to USA and everyone knows that.
In 1973, if USA didn't interfere, we would be making videos like: Where do former Israelis live now? What is Israel ?
Arabs lost in 1948 to Israel. You act like USA never lost a war before (Vietnam & Korea). Also, Arabs had foreign alliances too.
It just breaks my heart. If the shoe was on the other foot Israelis wouldn't surrender either. It goes to show you how similar both cultures are. Even though they deny it these people are one and the same. Two sides of the same coin. They're all bound to this land from time immemorial. Yet God remains to be the leading cause of death in the world.
To all the brothers and sisters in Palestine 🇵🇸, show the world what you can achieve. Show the world, despite the hardship, the occupation, the constant destruction and bombing, you as Palestinians will not be defeated. You will rise up stronger and better and deal with everyday life as best as possible. All the best from Tunisia 🇹🇳🌹Peace ☮️
Palestine was never a state
@@yurichtube1162 Palestina primara and segunda, and in addition to this we didnt even want jordan or iraq as states, we wanted the whole of arabia as one states it was the british division into mandates, but the palestinians have the right to the land weak argument
@James F the jews will be fine.
@@qusayj8765 the levant are not arabia. Arabia is much more south, which is saudi Arabia.
@@yurichtube1162 Yes the levant was part of arabia and if youre willing to say the levant isnt arabia then palestinians arent arabs?
Mexico benefits from Texas and New Mexico being given to the USA. But Mexico doesn't make it personal.
It's not occupation.thry are refuge .the Jewish leave their from the time of Moses .they come from Egypt Siria irak .it was govern buy British and they gave us independence .if they not happy they need to leave it's a lot of arab country.the Jewish got just 1 Israel that belong to us period
The first brother wow look how subtle he is yet you know how he said they will never give it up he is suffering with an immense amount of pain
Shortly, too sad to see that your videos show parallel lines that will never meet
My uncle serves in idf and now he is leaving in America I respect Israel
If Palestine lost, it would be a defeat for humanity
I am surprised the world accepted the israeli advanced over palestinians
Huh???
@Enjoyin' Life ! what You mean .?
It have fancy cars for occupied country.
So what
Yes, they are so lucky.
@Zaid Al-Hindawi they are lucky that the Israeli government is not defending its citizens against these terorists and taking them out once and for all
@Golden Crown 1.if you actually spent time writing that garbage you need serious help 2. If you’re saying only ashkenazi Jews are in power because of some Khazar theory, how do you explain a Palestinian Jew being the cheif of mossad right now?
i think that if the palestinians were to say that they give up, they would lose all claim for the land. but if they continue to press the issue, then in the future, if for whatever reason the palestinians were in the position to own the land, then they would have a stronger position to say that they are simply taking back what is theirs, therefore they can keep it
Quran 17:4-7 they didn’t lose the Jews lost
So sad, they’re so tied to their ego, they don’t see they’ll have more if they give it up rather than keep fighting.
0:30 The very first guy in the interview looks like an angel.
Biblical Angels aren't humanoid, they look monstrous if you read what they actually look like.
@@matthewvektrax9922 munkar and Nakeer are described as being pitch black with very ugly scary appearance and their pitch of voice sounds like a thunder.
@@matthewvektrax9922 Yet, they can appear in any form.
@@matthewvektrax9922 many angels in the Bible looked so much like humans they were mistaken to be humans..f.ex the angels appearing to Gideon and Lot
Lmao right right. Why because he's Palestinian?
Wow! That is a VERY courageous question to ask, and LOVE how politically incorrect it is, because it’s true! Even though I believe the war is unfortunately, not over.
No: 4 million Palestinians are going nowhere. They won already.
There was no war because Palestinians never had an army or anything remotely resembling one. This is sort of like asking black Americans in the Deep South during the time of segregation “Why don’t you accept you lost and whites won the war ?” - no people would accept segregation, ongoing theft of their lands, and arbitrary detentions etc. It’s a strange question.
Hi, this is the translator, thank you for watching. You're right, it was a hard question to ask.
Keep watching!
@@moea9586 did african americans enslave americans for 1400 years and had 5 wars of annihilation against the US? No? Then i guess its not the same. But do keep on lying
@@dogbert52 The war of annihilation was waged and is still currently being waged by Israel against Palestinians. You’re brainwashed and have an illusion of knowledge of a subject you know nothing about.
It's almost like they don't really want peace
Let me invade your country and take it from you. Would you agree?
@Starhopper the only right Israel has to the land is from Britain, and Britain only established it to stick it to the Ottomans and have a foothold in the Middle East. Israel is nothing but an ethnic police state. Not by “right” or by promise, by imperialism and circumstance. There is nothing Sacred about Israel.
@@boredom1312 There really isn't, but Biblical propaganda is used to make it so. I'm not saying, I wouldn't want a righteous Israel for the righteous Israelites, but the current Israel is not in the hands of the meek, but rather of the tyrants. The exact same tyrants that have their bloodline from Babylon and Pharaoh, wich is exactly what the jews need to fight against, not against palestinians who are in a poor and defenseless state.
Because your peace is unjust :"everything should be for Israeli " and as a Palestinian you have to accept that and be quite!
Peace in Islam is when everyone that disagrees with them is gone
The problems began in the 1920s without a realistic approach being followed by the Arab leaderhship. Like so many factions in the region such as in Lebanon in the 1970s and the 1980s, it hoped for foreign supporters and it imagined that others would fight their fights. Their positions became too extreme and unrealistic based on these delusions. With such lack of moderation, there was never a will until many, many decades later to confront and speak with Zionist leaders and then later with Israeli leaders. Arafat rejected Rabin's offer of east Jerusalem as capitol in 1990.