You are overthinking chords! Pt 3/3: Voice Leading | The Songwriting Corner
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Friedemann Findeisen is an award-winning songwriter and the author of the bestselling book "The Addiction Formula". As a musical profiler, he coaches some of the biggest producers in Germany.
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the 3 part series is so good, thank you a lot!
Another great episode coach! Thank you as always for all you do bro.
thanks! this cleared up a few things for me
thank you, thank you, thank you! Your channel is GOLD! :)
For those who didn't try it out, voice leading power chords sounds also great! For example, c5( cgc) to f5 (CFC)
And I realize he”s keeping it simple in the video. But plenty of options with power chords. If you think of M and m 7th chords as 2 power chords. You can try a CG or C#G# over A in the bass. Partial Am7,AM7 or even EB (A9 or sus2)or AD(Asus4) over E in the bass. Also DG ,
Love it !!!
Heh... as someone who has sung bass and tenor (I'm a baritone), I never thought about how much the bass jumps around. Octave leaps, no big whoop... oh, who snuck that 10th interval leap in there? No sweat. I might pay more attention to that in choral works.
Good advice, good series 😁. Full size piano might make it easier to observe the notes moving in the demo!!!
Great vídeo! And the final advice was gold (use your ears!)
Would be amazing if you make a vídeo about arrangement in Commercial Music:)
Please make a video on HOW TO MAKE BRIDGE !!!🇮🇳
Just bought your book.
I got Captain Chords..they just released V5...I did my research they are the best in its class 1000%..Also if you know whats good for you ignore unison audio
keep going you're on the good way.
you'll grow out of it eventually, I hate that clunky software now. just a 15 months ago now things improve quickly you will see.
every step is a needed step to get where you will end up going. or also in your style maybe that is more than enough for what you need and you can be satisfied with that forever, i dont know.
I use 3 composition software in addition to ableton, they all have their uses & their major limitations / problems. I am still not proficient enough theorywise in a DAW alone like avicii was. The only proper software for composition to get there would be MuseScore but i'm not there yet (sight reading ability lacking) & most people don't get there. otherwise it's best to do it in the DAW or record manually from an instrument input.
Software isn't the solution tough, learning structure & mastering the basics in real depth is where it's at. people brush over too quickly when they learn something basic thinking there is not more that can be learned by digging deep into a topic. we liv in the fast food age of information. but anything you learn quickly, there are probably a few 500 pages books written extensively about this subject.
most of the great music of history was written with pen & paper.
people may not do music you like simply because they don't have YOUR unique tastemaking ability. if you learn the proper knowledge & apply it with your own taste it will be 100x better than any artificial intelligence.
Learning theory on a piano is very useful, but it's a long marathon & not as "sexy" & kind of boring but it is PROVEN. but you can get there with small improvements every few weeks. start with learning 1 scale melodically, then scales then 5 then 7 then 12, then learn the modes, etc. Learn on a piano with enough keys to play voicing spreads & double octave bass.
What's boring to learn or do is an hidden opportunity because it's an obstacle majority of people will abandon so when you do it it separates you from the rest. Look at what the best schools teach (composition, songwriting) & find the ressources to learn it yourself. you'll be more creative than the students who take these "ready to eat" classes" and you will develop signature techniques you like doing.
in 5 days it's incredible how much you can learn, then overtime in 2 years you will have done 30 times 5 day sprints with rest in between to practice & apply your knowledge and one day you will laugh at these "software solution".
Very informative sir,thnx for this. How are u and your family feeling in this tough time of quarantine for covid 19?
Yo Friedemaan - please break down how The Strokes write their music, I think it could be interesting. Keep up the great work man, love this channel!
can you do a dissection of some songs off bon iver's 22, a million. no one talks about why his harmonies sound like it does. or if anyone here has insight on it, would appreciate it. keep up the awesome videos!
Some solid advice for those are starting out. Don't forget to space out your voices when playing in the lower registers - otherwise you will get a lot of mud!
But I never wanted to write commercial, simple, pop songs. Do I go back to the overthinking then?
If it makes you feel better, then you can do that way. There are no rules
What kind of songs are you trying to make?
@@monicamomney8756 basically any other kind, really. I do like me some simple pop songs, but I don't want to limit myself.
Jazz musicians be triggered hard
hahaha
Love Song Hater yessssssss
i think jazz musicians aren't concerned with writing pop songs
As a pianist, song writer, I find this so obvious haha.
I underestimate how much there is actually to explain around these things when someone is just starting out.
Interesting! I had assumed that the bass would typically play the same bass notes as the guitar, so if the guitar plays C followed by F/C, the bass would play C under it both times.
Sorry wich program did you used to listen chord progression?
01:33 click here to start the video
I wonder if there is a band that does with Harmony what Tool does with Rythm. I would like to hear that.
jacob collier.. but personnally I don't find this appealing at all. unless you are a rare cognitively gifted genius or music elite snob that pretends to love music that others don't like.
historically we had rhythms for millions of years for our brains to adapt. harmony has only been introduced in the last thousand years.
rhythmic complexity is much more visceral & has a simplistic appeal to it for the general population.
harmonic complexity happens fast & most people don't process it fully. in the charts you will see people try successfully some rhythm complexity to a certain degree, but harmonically it's often more simple.
Because when it gets complex it takes away from the melody & muddy the water of the music experience (in my musically cognitively limited opinion).
Have you ever used fretastic.com ?
Nice. I'd recommend Absolute Fretboard Trainer Pro, as a learning tool I've found useful. Also 'PAD' Guitar chord charts, which shows guitar dot patterns as measures of the actual notes. www.virtuar.com/guitar/book_0_1.htm
Those two have really helped me tackle the fretboard, and help with writing.
Link for that mini piano
he built it himself
Hey man please do some new vids in the album and artist series i insist.
Plus can you show us your real time production and songwriting process? That would be cool.
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A well wisher.
I'm not a musician in the least. Is decent song writing without making the music yourself like driving a car with your feet on the steering wheel? Doable, but not recommended?
what do you mean song writing but not making the music? like giving away the lyrics/melody to someone else?
"Producer" dude : * starts blindingly moving MIDI notes in FL until it sounds "dope" *
I'm only commenting because I'm a huge fan of this channel so I should give my feedback... this video should have been titled (basic) or (for beginners) because to be honest I feel like I wasted 10 mins of my time and this rarely happens when watching you guys. So next time plz point out the level of the content so I can skip instead of wasting time, which if that happens frequent, people stop watching your content.
Good point! Thank you.
@@Holistic-songwriting also I waited around 2 months for this, because the part 1 was pretty good and gave me great insight on focusing on the melody and the bass, simplifying things. I kept checking part 2 and 3 and it was more technical and things I find very basic, so they were not unique like the first one.
What I mean is this format of separating the video in 3 parts with 2 months in between releases raised a lot my expectations, then noticing they're not as great as I thought (to me) really bummed me as a viewer and makes me not anticipate your videos that much anymore.
Just telling my experience as a "customer", I appreciate your work and learned a lot from the "How ____ Writes a Melody" series.
Wanted to write a Jacob Collier joke, but you kept on saying that this is for simple songs so nvm
As a small bit of feedback the mic sounds too far away from you, and so you sound like you're in a cave.
vids 1 and 2 in this series sounded fine, so he must’ve had a gear issue
"don't overthink chords"
Makes 3 videos about chords