Who Would Use a LASER as a TABLE SAW?!?!
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I got a laugh with the intro. Reminded me of the days when "real woodworkers" would complain about videos of people using CNCs. I mean, it is not about the tool, it is the finished product.
Exactly! 😆
What a great idea! Not only is this cleaner than traditional wood saws, but it is much straighter as well. This also takes out the measurement and marking step. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah by doing it on the computer and loading into a Lazer only took about 3 or times it would have taking with a track saw or table saw.
This is only straighter if you are not good with your tools. Its also useless unless you are breaking down wood to use in a laser. This would be completely useless for any kind of traditional, non laser based woodworking.
Sam I am so glad that you credited your friend Matt. I watched his video the other day and was so impressed with how clean it worked on his 51” Nova that I’m going to be adding one to my shop this summer. Hopefully it’s the 63” but we will see. You have inspired me thru the years that I have followed you. I wish you all the best in your new shop. Love your videos!
Congratulations Sam! When I first started watching you, you were a guy with a wife, couple of kids, and a couple of home businesses. Now you are a high tech, high dollar, UA-camr. Big property, fancy fence, carport, and an amazing shop with $20K+ of high tech equipment and now you have manufacturers giving you expense equipment. Wow! Have things changed! I wish you the best in your future endeavors but I won’t be here to watch. You are now becoming big time. Maybe the next April Wilkerson.! Anyway congratulations, take care of your family and yourself.
Awesome video Sam! I’d love to get into lasers, CNC, and 3D printing. No complaints as a woodworker. Heck everyone has jigs. This is a modern jig. I did notice that the material in the machine had a slight bow from sagging weight. If you can place a weight on the piece in the machine your cuts may be more precise. Just a thought if it makes a difference in your measurements! Otherwise good video and would love to learn more.
May I suggest pinning a comment emphasizing laser eye safety? You can't see the scatter from a CO2 laser and that amount of power output could do real, permanent eye damage. I never power mine on before I don protective eyewear. Vision loss occurs faster than anyone can engage safety squints.
I agree but also the glass is laser safe.
@@Ryan82288 maybe so, but there's no glass where he fed the wood in and the laser head is right up front. Why take the chance?
Hey Sam, Here's a neat little plywood bending hack for you. Moisten the inner side of the concave surface and let it sit for a bit. The wood will absorb the moisture, causing it to expand and temporarily flatten out the board, not permanently alas, but just while that side is wet. This could come in handy during your machining process. Happy machining!
Perfect! LOL! I saw Matt do this the other day! Quality plus saving time equals smart business sense!
I recently got my "big boy laser" and this is one of the things I like most about it. I am fully capable of utilizing our table saw; but it does tend to make the hubby nervous if he's not home. Now I don't have to wait.
I agree with you and some will bash this but I have been doing it since I got my laser. Its clean and I also have a beast of a laser Aeon Nova 10 Elite and it cuts my plywood clean and accurate with no splinters and 100% ready right after it cuts.
You filled your workshop so quick sam...😊
wowzers, that is one fine machine, congrats on it's use, jb
Thanks Sam! Appreciate you!
Great idea Sam. 😊
Hahah I follow Matt too, he cracks me up!
This is a cool idea! Once suggestion would be laser eye wear. That stuff can bounce easily and you don’t know damage has been done until it’s too late in most cases. With that door open especially laser eye glasses would be safest. Thanks for sharing!
First time watching this channel. Looks awesome. I'm looking at getting started with a CNC Router. Baby steps have to learn to walk before you can run.
Great, I love your videos are simple and clear for people like me that love crafts and woodworking and don't have the room to practice. Blessings and success.
Looking at this you are validating future growth ideas for my laser business
And you are saving nearly 3/8” of material from kerf loss.
I’m wondering if there is a way to set the head in a stationary position and manually feeding the material to do “rip” cuts. Make a fence and either manual feed or build an auto feeder.
Sam…well im mostly a wood worker ,but wow I love this idea! I love no sawdust and perfect lines as to any woodworker nice strait line cuts are imperative! I’m loving what you are able to do with this new machine!
I do the same with our 100W 40" wide laser.
Nice go-thru......
Thanks for the idea! That’s awesome and would have never thought of that. Here’s my question; I am considering purchasing a P2. Would you be able to do the same thing on the P2? Also, does the P2 have a pass thru? I have patterns for furniture and some are quite large in length. I will get with you when I’m ready to purchase my P2, I want to do it right, and you ( in my book) are the laser guru!
I like the idea. But how well will it cut 3/4-inch cabinet grade prefinished plywood?
When I can slide a 3/4-inch ply in and get a finished side for a bottom cabinet (including toe kick, back nailing rail, and marks for drilling for hinges and drawer slides) out I will gladly get rid of my table saw.
13:20 that thin piece at the end - is it wide enough to make coasters?
Glasses / as extra precaution incase you bend down to look at it?
If the machine could be rotated you could index a long sheet and cut the long edge.
Can you use dust/ smoke extraction to create a vacuum bed? Could be a cool little project.
I’ve done this. I made a mark on the plywood, lined up the mark with my laser’s ruler and made the cut. I used absolute positioning.
Keep up the good work. I am really enjoying your videos. Very helpful
This worked great!! Good clean cuts, not a big mess and now you have precut material for projects!!!
Smooth operator
I've found that for rather wavy sheets of wood, stack your newest sheets under your oldest sheets. Pain in the backside for sure but, the weight of the older sheets help flatten the newer sheets. So, by the time you break into using the newer sheets, using old stock first, they should dry out a bit more evenly and self flatten.
Excellent idea for ripping down bigger material and very pleasantly surprised the X2 was able to use the 13" cutoffs.
Love watching your videos. Was this Thunder Laser 35 a gift in exchange for your reviews? Sometimes people can be swayed as a result. Regardless, it is still fun to see you learn new things. I think it is great that you and your family can work together building a future.
Great Sam, Nice to have options. I am impressed with your Thunder Laser. We have a smaller Boss 1416 laser but will be considering this Thunder model in the future.
Heck yeah! it's so much nicer than a table saw and faster. The thunder lasers are really nice to have. Also Thanks for the credit. 😃
Faster ? Lol
Seens like the cover of the laser doesnt include eye protection. So the question is why you dont wear protective goggles?
I actually was going to ask him that same question, I have the ORTUR and I use eye protection so I’m thinking that the bigger laser you don’t have to?
We do this at work, it's great.
The window has a protective coating, but he should be using eye protection when doing open bed cutting like that.
We usually put a sheet of cardboard to cover the hole. It helps with smoke as well as eye protection.
Came to say the same. Laser Safety 101: any time it's powered on, you wear the safety glasses.
The Thunder Laser glass top protects your eyes from any laser reflections (I have this same one), and the laser immediately turns off when you lift the cover. I actually just made this comment separately to Sam, when he's running with that front plate removed for pass through operations, you are exactly right though - there's nothing to protect you from the last, and glasses would be a very good idea, but filming that angle was worrying me too....
Usually the glass or plastic cover that protects have a colour in it. This doesnt. So have they developed a new protection without the colour?
Matt is great just like you. I saw his video yesterday. Great idea for certain.
Cool in laser shots
Really interesting and a good alternative. How thick do you think you can go?
I need a table saw to cut the wood down to fit in the laser. This might an alternative maybe. Take laser head off and make a track Saw version
No mention on how thick the plywood could be to use this laser. Looked like it was 1/4". I'm curious how it would work on 1/2" plywood.
I saw Matts video last night and yours today. I think it is a great idea... I am limited by using my P2 for this, but I think it is a great option. I am looking forward to the day when I can purchase a larger laser in the future.. Keep up the great videos!!
Definitely a game changer easy, fast and less messy awesome
Love the vids Sam. Lasers and wood… hope you have a good sized fire ext near you. Get a 20 lb… you probly have one already. Time is against you in a fire. Have that bad boy right next to you.
Enjoy learning from you. Keep it up boss.
Just a quick note as I understand it - Just be careful when you have the front off and are filming the laser cutting through the opening. I know you stressed that you weren't putting a hand near the laser, but (again my understanding) if you are watching the laser cut from that angle and it somehow gets reflected out towards you (the beam itself as you know is invisible) it could very quickly damage your eyes. The glass in the door cover protects us from that but be careful when you have removed front panel for pass through jobs.
Gotta admit. I'm watching the setup thinking Sam has lost his mind.
Then I saw that cut. Ok, I'm all in now.
Wow that’s an amazing piece of machinery ❤❤❤
👍😃Danke für das Video.
Cool was man alles machen kann
I can definitely see the benefits. Just wondering on price comparison between a top of the line professional table saw versus your laser machine.
Whatever works and meets your needs!
Sam did you open your tunnel to the storage room .
Nice, between you Matt and now April in the Thunder world it is interesting to see all the potential with the larger format machines. Question though, why outside of content creation, would you use the P2 over the Thunder? Cameras? Thanks and nice shop and I love the direction you are going, cheers!
That is a very good question. I am working on a comparison video between the two machines and will talk about who I think the two machines are made for. In short, the P2 is better suited to very small setups, people with limited funds, or those looking to do this as a hobby or lower cost start up.
@@SamcraftcomThanks Sam for taking the time to answer this. I was assuming the cameras, but the space and cost most likely a factor as well for most starting out. Cheers!
Cool video & I watched him other day do this 👍been watching him for awhile great channel 👍I just subscribed to you
What is the best way to store the now cut sheet blanks to fix or prevent warping? Stack them all flat on top of each other with a weight on top?
I think I see a sink in the background, cool😊
Actually, I think this is rather clever, you can maximize the material, get the proper fit for your laser to allow you to use the entire bed. You also know that each piece is very close to the same size. I think the only thing you should do different it to get a couple more supports. Then you can pre-stack all the material and just pull it off the top of the pile vice running back and forth to get the next sheet. (assuming you have the room)
Nice!!! Circular saw and all other saw makes a mess that you have clean up when done
Another win, cutting the plywood with the thunder, rather than a table saw or track saw, is there is zero chip out where the laser cuts it.
Great idea, but I will still use my table saw, I ripped a bunch of 2x lumber today, try that with a laser. Seriously, that would be interesting to see if it could do it
This is the kind of solution I am looking into as I have been recently diagnosed with MS and have hand tremors... So I don't think I should use a table saw ever again.
you have found your niche of what you like and excel at
we all have a niche just haven't found it yet
One of my biggest regrets with the machine I bought, no passthru :(. I have to basically do the same thing by hand. I DO get mine rip cut down to the width of my bed at HD (unless I'm buying those luan sheets, they're already narrow enough), and have a saw guide I clamp down and cut with. I did notice no eye protection during your cuts tho... I will say when I'm finally ready to either add another, or replace my existing laser, I'm going to seriously look more into a Thunder.. Their fit and finish is about 3 or 4 notches above what I currently have (it works, but things like my motorized bed are just kind of clunky).
think the lasertube (and the honeycomb bed) is a wear item , and their not cheap
it might be better to just use a tablesaw
might want to check some of the more professional used machines websites to get on of those saws they use at the diy store , it takes way less space then the normal saw and is eazier to operate on youre own , only thing is you can cut at an angle or cut grooves but with the material cut intoo smaller pieces you wouldnt need a large sawbench for that
🎉 YAY YOU! 🎉
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It's not dumb if it works! Use the tools you have. But I'm glad I have my full-size table saw with dust collection to break down material.
I do this with my GlowForge Pro. It’s so helpful… especially since HD limits the number of cuts they’ll do.
Awesome! I agree re: cuts at Home Depot.
Using my laser like this it already 😂☠️😊
I really like that as an option and the facts you stated are true. But I think you are selling yourself short. To say that you are not a woodworker and built your own shop is a little misleading. I think I will cut sheet goods on my laser more now and thank you and Matt for bringing this to our attention.
Been doing the same thing in my 2028 for a few months. I agree, it beats the saw method hands down!
LOL you do you. If your cuts require, cut it however you can.
So what you are saying is IT'S ALL MATTS FAULT. lol good job Sam and Matt
Yes, ALWAYS!! 😂
great idea. Glad YOU thought of it. LOL
I can’t see why you would ever want to use a table saw ever again!!!! It’s very clean!!!! Table saws are just dangerous,just look at most shop teachers hands lol
Okay. Okay. I'll buy a laser! In all seriousness, I watch these videos with no intent of owning one, but I'm beginning to think I need one. The new shop is looking great.
that's some beautiful looking paneling lol lol if we're little thicker make beautiful floor
I thought that everybody with a laser, who has a large bed/work space, does this
Have to agree with the comments down below, if you're going to be open cutting like that, you should get yourself some eye pro.
I see a bigger fiber laser in the background. Is that new?🤔🤔
It is new, just out of the box. But it's not a fiber... ;)
@@Samcraftcom Ahhhhh, I see. A uv or co2? Fancy!
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Hey Sam, That is awesome! But with the front door removed, where are your laser glasses. You need to be real careful with a CO2 laser. Your eye are very important as you can not fix laser damage. I use to make CO2 laser tubes for medical and a laser burn will heal.
Great video as always Sam! Did I spy a new fiber laser on the workbench? 🤔
You did notice a new laser! But not a fiber.... :)
Ever since you did your review on the ComMarker B4, it’s been on my list!! Thanks for all of your great videos!
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I thought everyone did that. To be honest, I never made a file for it. I just hit the pulse button and the direction arrow. LOL
Why don't You use safety glasses when using the laser?
What do you mean, it's a great way to use your laser, I've been using this trick for 15 years, thought everyone does...I also use this to cut my sheets into A4 size sheets for when I make print and cut stuff so it's more convenient.
The only way to cut wood is with a Japanese whaleback saw crafted in the mountains of the tekakibukake prefecture and blessed by no less than 6 Buddhist Muslim Scientologists and the blade must made from meteoric iron hand forged(even the teeth) and quenched in a pop up oasis in the gobi desert. Incense must be burned too to appease the cutting spirit of the saw so wood might be “parted” instead of savagely ripped. 2 parts frankincense and 5 parts Mir melted into a kilo of ambergris from the Antarctic interior.
This last stuff is what you do, so why not use it to its fullest to make things easier for yourself
laser stuff over my head 🗣️
Hmmm yes but so much easier on a table saw. But if you havent got one i guess 👍
I'm curious why you are not wearing laser eye protection, especially since your pass-through is open. There is a chance of flash off the honeycomb. I had my laser reflect once and hit my hand. It was so quick I could not react. It was pinpoint sharp searing pain for a millisecond. Watch out for your health. One wrong move and your eyes can not be fixed. Stay safe.
I seen matts video i thought that was not a good idea. It would be faster to use a saw. I thought he was just trolling people
Don’t blame someone else if you’re Lasy.
So I can do exactly the same thing with just using a cheap skilsaw, a straight edge and a tape measure in about one tenth of the time, WITHOUT havind a burnt edge. I really don't see the point of using a ridiculously expensive laser and a computer not to mention a bunch of my time to program the computer and be left with a burnt edge when you're finished. 😂
Then this is not the hobby or business for you. 😂
He explained that in the video. Not everyone has those tools. What if you just have a laser and need to break down a board that the store limited cuts on? My local store does 2 cuts a day.
Now, for one or two items, yeah, your way will work. But what if a person is prepping for a craft show and needs to break down 30 boards to fit into 90 jobs on the laser? Just as easy to click a button and feed each board like a saw mill.
Sam explains this at the 14:20 mark
I don't think you can do it faster and make it look good. I did a 48" cut in 50 seconds and it looks awesome.😃