Surface Duo Review: A Beautiful Mess
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Microsoft got a lot right about the Surface Duo, but the software is a bit of a mess right now. If the bugs get fixed, though, this could eventually be an incredible product.
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This thing is awesome. Mine was delivered today and I just love it. It's so cool.
Goodluck to your frustrations
I have the same feeling.
how is it
Looks good there's no reason Microsoft can't optimize the software and commit it back to open source, which is a big win for Android either way you look at it.
I'm actually really surprised with the review. I haven't had any problems with the bugs you are describing. There doesn't seem to be a lag for me and the bluetooth works fine. Received my Surface Duo on the 10th and love it.
I've been a Early Adopter since the Nokia N97 days..... I have no problems with Bugs I can't wait to get this device for 4 reasons:
1.) It's STILL THE ABSOLUTE Coolest Sci-fi looking device that will Turn Heads where ever I go.
2.) The Sheer Screen Real estate w/the Pen.
3. And being an Early Adopter means going through all the phases that this Beast of a device comes into its own with software updates.
4.) Having a discount as a trade-in when the Microsoft Surface Duo 2 comes out.
What a strange views you have :))
1) It's not. Maybe in your personal taste, but this thing looks like some schoolboy tries to replicate a Samsung Fold.
2) What's cool in two small screens instead of one big of the Fold?
3) This device won't help any updates. You can't remove ridiculously huge frames of a screen, a metal thing in the middle and the impotent processor and camera. Not a single MS device, apart from XBox was a success. All of them is weird things for the fans at best.
4) Well... maybe, but I still cant think a single reason not to buy Fold 2 if you need a device like this.
Beast of a device? Are you dreaming? Its not even close to note 20 ultra overall performance
@@CherniavskyDen Any decent professional knows two screens is always better than one. That's why all content creators have at least two pc monitors instead of one huge widescreen. Microsoft and samsung is going in different directions.
@@bluesoapxr Well, in terms of working instrument - I agree. But I can't see laggy Surface as working instrument. Multitasking on a Samsung is way better in this particular case. And we are not mentioning DEX...
Discount trade in - that's an interesting one, what i usually do is to buy the previous generation for 2nd hand when the 2nd gen cane out and trade it in for an upgrade. So i basically save heaps on this.
Gotta start somewhere. Can't expect a store full of apps when there are no dual-screen devices already.
Returned mine for the Fold 2 and I love it so much!
Right now most products are launched in beta phase, some even in alpha phase
true.
Unfortunately yes
I've been buying first generation products and dealing with bugs for almost 15 years.... I can't wait to buy the Duo and watch it turn into the biggest Beast on the block with software updates.
This comment has not aged well!!
@@PJ-sv4iw How has it it is well???...it sucked when it was released in September but by December all the bugs were Squashed...I still use it to this day.
I feel like the Surface Duo 2 is gonna be absolute fire. They built a product with incredible precision and care, and now they're getting lots of solid feedback from the market to make it even better. It sounds like most folks would take 1 or 2 mm on each panel to get qi/nfc/ and a bigger camera sensor.
Microsoft is working on fixing the bugs and, after listening to the feedback, is already releasing an update. Congratulations, great video.
No updates in the entire world can fix that awful single camera.
True. People just don't get it. This is a great attempt at making Mobile phones productive that to pretend to make it productive like other companies do. People appreciate Galaxy note for being a productivity machine, while a stylus for a 6.5 inch screen makes no sense, no screen real estate to take benefit of the pen. Duo Gen 1 is far more promising than the Fold.
@@riggi_ dont forget, ZTE Docomo, Kyocera all have dual screen phones and all failed terribly. The only thing new here is how slim it is and a windows logo. Dual screen is old and it won't take off. A phone unfold into a tablet is what people have been dreaming for, not dual screen phones. A folding tablet makes more sense than a dual screen phone. Why would I carry a dual screen device if I can have two perfectly working smartphones with 2 separate sim card. It doesn't even make sense using the duo as a tablet with a gigantic seam in the middle and only 1 camera? You will see people returning the device 1 or 2 months after they purchase it. Just too many compromises.
@@keithtae I completely agree with your view. And that is what I want to clarify here, this form factor is not just another phone, it's a form factor dedicated to productivity first, which is also a phone, and people fail to understand this. As u said ZTE did try this too, LG does the same.
My point is about this form factor and not the product. As foldable screen tech improves the bezel in the centre can be removed. It's the way your apps adapt to larger screen that matters. Fold is a phone with just a larger display hence multi tasking is not efficient, whereas when apps treat the screen real estate as dual display instead of one large one, user efficiency increases.
To be precise, the OS needs to function like iPad OS than iOS.
Great detailed Review....As Always...There are very few channel that I trust with my purchase decision and this is One of them. I was first here after a mention from MRMOBILE and I Love the channel since. I wish you great Success.
Give it time...and a generation...and it'll make everyone rethink their phones.
I rather prefer a watch with most essential things: camera, text, calling.
I'm actually surprised about the bugs, as I thought for sure the software would be the area of least concern. But you're right, the Surface team is onto something. What that is I don't know just yet, but the Duo is giving me the same transformative feeling the original Surface did.
I'll probably still get one just because I:m one of the few who preferred Microsoft phones.
yourfellowman11 But...it’s _not_ a Windows phone, it’s an Android phone with some MS Surface-like software integration; therein lies the rub.
I agree that the concept is interesting, but this iteration is somewhat of a train wreck (as Daniel said) - even for a 1st Gen device.
The Galaxy Z Fold 2 blows the Duo away with better specs (including usable Bluetooth! 🤣), better battery life, better photo/video quality, a more well rounded feature set (it has NFC & wireless charging) and, yes, software optimization (no Jank/sluggishness).
I’ve seen a demo of MS apps on the Fold and they looked really good, FWIW. Hell, I’d recommend the LG V60 or Velvet over the Duo for the price-conscious dual-screen early adopter, until Microsoft gets its act together.
This thing has a lot of potential. Hopefully Microsoft fixes the software issues. And I hope for the next generation, they bring in quad speakers on those huge bezels and a secondary ultra wide angle lens, while both cameras being 12 MP. A little extra thickness is a good compromise for these add ons.
For this kind of device, Microsoft has to bundle in accessories like surface buds and pen. Nobody wants to hold a notebook like device to their ears to make a call. Since it's a notebook like device, a cheaper version of the surface pen can be included within the box. And yes, RAM should be atleast 8 GB.
The Surface Duo is a nice, if not buggy, re-entry to the mobile market. I can't wait to see what they do to iron out the software and the changes in version 2.
I would definitely not characterize this device as a "hot mess", and the reviewer doesn't seem to understand that if you don't expect to use this device's features and use the Microsoft ecosystem, then just don't buy it.
He keeps praising the hardware and seamless screen integration, but titles his review in a contradictory way.
05:15 He explained pretty well why he called it a mess and by the way every other reviewer mentioned those issues.
As for the claim that either you want the "Microsoft ecosystem" or just don't buy it: this is simple insane... yes, native apps will work better and we expect Microsoft to integrate them but just that is not enough. This is a $1300 device for the mass market, it has to be better than being just being a "Microsoft machine." Microsoft choose Android BECAUSE it knew that it could not launch another phone without app support...
If this was $799 it would sell like hotcakes
Any phone at that price with decent specs would sell like hotcakes.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 A dual screen premium device for that price? Are you high?
@@Dare2Blink premium device? Are you high?
@@SHRModding lmao. No software in the whole world can fix a shitty camera. Good try.
@@SHRModding wait, when was I angry? Your assumption is clearly way off just like your judgement.
A small external display to display notifications, time and date, etc. is what it only lacks.
In my opinion, MS should team up with Google to bring the dual-screen support to the next Android version.
A small external screen would add so much more functionality. An entire external screen like the fold seems redundant. A second screen should drive you to the main screen.
Duo2 will be awesome. I am waiting for my Fold2, but Microsoft did well. Well... The next-gen I expect to be amazing, imagine no notch? A pen? More cameras?
Good review. Thanks letting us know about the Bluetooth issues. Hadn’t heard that. As you’d need a smart watch for NFC payments, for your follow up, please see if this connectivity issue affects payment.
Get a Garmin, no Bluetooth needed for payments.
Will be buying one of these in the next month. Amazing bit of kit
So basically the Galaxy Z Fold 2 is a way better option.
Ridiculous to recommend the Duo, at this price and with the shortcomings you described, over the LG V60.
1ts gen always going to have issues but not bad device from microsoft
Thanks Daniel, GREAT concept, but I'm taking your advice & holding off till V2! Can you PLEASE try to do something about "Centrals" audio output - both Android & Windows' sound quality is quieter than ALL the other reviewers out there! ☹️ But, good too see you anyway 😉
It's got some promise, but $1400 for what they're offering is way too much.
You should try updating it. I heard many had this issue but once updated it was fixed
Thanks a lot for your superb video review. Having said that, IMHO, the appearance looks obsolete out of the box and boy, loads of bugs. I love it when you said it feels like a book ;) Please keep it up.
I'll never understand reviewers telling you "Don't buy a product." aren't you suppose to be impartial? I understand if the product is seriously broken, which the Surface Duo is not. By telling people not to buy a product you are basically killing the product. Why would a company invest in a better product if the initial product doesn't sell as intended?
Just remembered its first gen. The Samsung fold had a screen that looked like a screen protector and many people broke it, it had a tiny front screen with a hella thick chin and forhead. The hinge wasnt well protected snd so on. Give the duo time to come out with a second gen and alot of the issue will be gone.
A foldable screen with Windows 11 can do all of that splitting better than 2 separate dual screens, without a hinge or light gap obstructing the tablet/book view.
MS ought to go foldable screen on the inside and a single phone display on the outside.
Get better utility with the foldable inner tablet and potential laptop landscape orientation than some very niche “tent” modes.
1st Generation bro...
Stfu
$1500 bro
@@hassanger8128 I agree. The Galaxy Fold was as well. It is always best to purchase the next iteration and let those that can afford to get the first and test it out, do so. Companies might do better if sales reflect this too.
@bungalaix True statement. Not apologizing.
Good review Daniel. Kinda stiff but would like to see you do more video reviews. Hopefully shake off some stiffness.
I love the Duo for what it is but it’s not an all in one device as is and I think that’s one of the biggest shortcomings of it. After seeing the LG Wing announcement today, that’s the device that really strikes as the perfect balance of form and function. LG really thought their approach of the phone. The Duo is a nice concept though and the software updates are what will be the key to its success in my opinion.
I wasn't expecting such a fair shake... usually people trash Microsoft. Especially when they try to invent a new form factor or change something we're used to.
I think all your reluctance is justified.. yet you still are going to be patient and see if there is more to this form factor and get back to us... As a person who can't afford this, but is super curious about it... I applaud you and your team. Thanks!
The Duo make me think that Samsung could compete launching a Dex Duo like.
I must say 2 years later. This phone is pretty dope, I'm actually happy that I bought one.
I just got one and I love it.
Wow sounds like a very beta release; I think it'd been best with they had ironed out these issues and released it come thanksgiving or something :/
Gotta get some user input to iron out the issues for v.2
Its disappointing because 1) optimized software was primary justification for this product and it's late release.
That said I don't have a problem with the 855 or 6 gb of ram. That is more than enough to have a seamless experience
Michael Corcoran LOL, did you actually watch/listen to the review ?? He specifically said that he feels Duo is far too sluggish for a $1400 device.
SO then, the conclusion we can draw is that either MS blew the software optimization, or the slightly outdated hardware simply isn’t up to the task (or perhaps a bit of both?).
Well played. Secured all those preorders based on the initial glowing hardware reviews. Now they shipped and the real reviews are coming out saying how buggy it is.
LG morally has 3 phones that can be duel screen and does it better than a 1st gen device from a different company. You almost act like the G8X V60 and LG Velvet don't already exist with duel screens .
Bryan Alan Agreed, and those LG devices and the Samsung Fold all blow the Duo away.
tbh this seems like its designed for business or enterprise market, not youtube reviewers
Ironically, the business/enterprise customer is likely to be the least tolerant of the bugs highlighted by said reviewers.
This take doesn't make any sense. The last thing business users need is a BUGGY device when they're trying to get work done. Mr. Mobile is correct
MrMobile [Michael Fisher] Mister Mobile (aka Mr. Stark) has weighed in (and I agree 💯 with him) !! Longtime sub and I’m watching your review next, my friend !
How is it like to draw on?
Not sure why you recommend this form factor over the Galaxy Z Fold 2. The Fold can not only do ALL those multi-tasking windows (and more) it can give you one big screen with no divider in the middle for truly immersive content like video, web pages, images or full spreadsheets for example. On top of that you get a way better hardware experience and more pocketability. Microsoft really are a long way off bringing this to market.
They really need to cut this phone in half. Get rid of the bezels but keep the same build. That would be interesting.
Nice of Microsoft to not allow reviews until after delivery. Gee, I wonder why?
I figured out why I’m not that jazzed about this product. I have a iPad mini 5 that I use almost every day and it is capable of most of the things this gen 1 phone is attempting. The hinge and gaming capabilities are cool and unique but besides that this just seems like a buggy iPad mini. Will be interesting to see any improvements made next gen.
855 and 6 gb of ram is not causing the delays! Software bugs, yes. But 855 is fast enough
Daniel Bader did an excellent job. He is an excellent presenter.
Do a comparison to the LG v60 dual screen.
Lg is on their 4th dual screen device (v50, g8x, v60, velvet) so it's much more refined.
And you can always take out case and have conventional form factor
More importantly they are between $500-800
Michael Corcoran Yep, the V60, Velvet, and G8x would blow the Duo away in a head-to-head, they are more budget-friendly, and arguably more versatile with the removable case.
I'm sorry. But for the price of this device, Microsoft should have tested the crap out of this to be sure it was 'PERFECT' before releasing it. No one should have to "wait to see if Microsoft can fix it" after spending $1400 on this device! Also, no NFC!? How in the hell does Microsoft want you to pay for your purchases, with a credit card!? lol
Mark Binder Yep, and the cameras are insultingly bad, the battery will likely prove to be too small for all-day usage, and there’s no wireless charging. The Duo is a relative train wreck, even for a 1st Gen device. 😢🤣
Unless you are like me - Bleeding edge baby! but dealing with the caveats as I go.
The Surface Duo is designed for professionals. A majority people outside of the "tech" content creators could care less about specs. Maybe this device is designed for productivity, not people who live their lives in social media. This is designed for the Blackberry generation. Looking forward to my delivery this afternoon. Here is an idea, maybe this device will get users to spend less time living with their heads in their devices and foster human to human contact.
Agreed. As a business owner I am salivating to get my hands on this. It's the ideal productivity monster.
Professionals aren't going to buy it .There's a reason blackberry is dead so you aren't doing it any favors with that comparison and it will get people to stop using their phones ? How ? People just won't buy it , you can make them use it 😅 Human to human contact in a pandemic? Wut, did you actually read your comment before you wrote it 😅
@@VTheGuerrilla how is it a productivity monster ? It's just a duel screen tablet/phone 😅😅😅😅
@@VaunShiz But there haven't been any dual screen phones this well developed. Only a company like MS could get software developers to get on board. It's a productivity monster because it's a cheaper version of the Samsung Fold - a foldable display made more for productivity than media consumption. The Duo is for all the people who don't want to carry a tablet around with them all the time but they will get the same kind of functionality, yet with a twist even. Which is like - everyone.
MisterFuturtastic Yeah, except that @ $1400, the Duo is far too flawed - even for a Gen 1 device. The jank/sluggishness is unacceptable, and the Bluetooth issues and poor photo quality are inexcusable for late 2020.
The inner bezels are far too large, and the lack of even a small outer display (AOD status of time/date, connectivity & battery - if not notifications) is just dumb. Jury is still out on the battery, but my guess is that it won’t get power users through a full day.
And no NFC or wireless charging, on a super-premium phone ??! As Joe Biden would say, “C’mon, man !!” 🤣
Bader always comes out of nowhere to review things. Where's Alex?
Funny how none of these reviewers discouraged anyone from buying the Galaxy Fold with all it's many flaws. Even the Z Fold 2 is overpriced for a phone with a super fragile main screen. The Surface Duo is not a traditional phone. It it a multitasking beast. The Z Fold 2 is strictly for media consumption. To each his own.
Im impress with outdoor pics... very nice quality for a small selfie sensor.
I really wish tech reviews watch their words better when it comes to recommending devices. I think that initailly almost all reviewers got it wrong. First, the Duo has Microsoft and Google services, just like every other smartphone that runs Android. Prompting a user to sign in with both accounts should have been expected since the device is made by Microsoft. Secondly, this isn't a phone- not saying this reviewer in particular is saying it is, but I feel like his posisiton is based on that of other smartphones. Microsoft had to do a lot of work to get its skin to run as efficiently as possible on a mobile operating system that was simply not designed for this form factor. I think they did a great job with it. As far as bugs, currently, it is not as bad as it was protrayed. I will say, the issues don't rely with Microsoft- it's Android. It's simply not optimized to run with the device, simple as that. Doesn't mean that you can't use it. As far as speed, it's not a slow phone. Does it slow doen at times? yes. The specific issue with UA-cam and potential bluetooth lags? I have not had that problem. The camera? It's not the best camera, not the worst. It's usable. I really tried to agree with the reviewers and say it's bad, but it's not. Lastly, ALL of the phones he compared it to are not in the Duo's weight class. NO PHONE ON THE MARKET IS BECAUSE ITS NOT A PHONE. That's why there is no screen on the front!! If you really want to see your notifications without opening the Duo, buy a smartwatch!! The gripe I had with my smartwatch paired to my phone most of the time was that I never really used it while paired on my Note 10+ unless it was far away from me and still connected. If it was near me and I heard a notification sound on my phone, regardless if I got the notification on my watch I would unlock the phone. I think it was just habit for me. But with the Duo, I can get the notification on the watch, view it, then decide if it's important enough to open the Duo. I think that was the whole purpose of having a smartwatch on your wrist. If you want a new experience on a mobile device that runs android, and you want to be more productive, or at the very least have more screen real estate without having to carry a tablet all around, this is the mobile device for you. If you like the idea of having a phone and a tablet, this might not be the device for you. I feel that if reviewers focus more on the usability than its price, and compariing it to other devices that can't hold a candle to what this device does, Microsoft's intended vision would reach more people, and put the people in a position to make an informed decision for themselves if they wanted to purchase the device. I didn't buy it when it first came out due to all of the bad reviews, but due to the concept of the device and how I felt I would be able to make use of it, I decided to purchase it for myself straight from Microsoft to ake advantage of the 60 day return policy, and so far...I don't think I will be sending it back. It is an incredible device. If you are on the fence, buy it and give it a chance!!
I feel like the RAM is a bottleneck, 6GB is barely enough for single screen Android phones and now we have 2 screens with multiple apps.
6 gb if ram is plenty. Anything above 8 is excessive for all but those editing video
@@michaelcorcoran8768 It depends on what you are doing if you are serious multitasking 6GB is about enough but 8GB is better because you have extra headroom. In this case, you are doing even more serious multitasking.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Not plenty for a device geared towards multi-tasking. Not even considering the usage of 2 apps, but opening a suite of office, social, and media apps and switching between them on the different displays... 6gb won't be able to hold too many background apps. This could be an issue if you call for an app you've switched from to open on one of the displays.. only for the app to reload and restart losing where you left once brought to the foreground. I still have high hopes for the Surface Neo, hopefully they learn from their mistakes with the Duo as far as usage and practicality goes. Especially since it will not be Android based.
Fold 2 for me this time around, super interested to see what they do for the 2nd Duo.
@@TreyGlenn 6gb is plenty for a dual screen device. I know this because I have a G8X and it's more than enough, the amount of ram isn't the issue
@@SHRModding my Note 10+ has 12 gigs of ram. Out of that 12gb.. 8gb are being used to suspend apps that I use frequently while nearly 900mb's are reserved for the system. If additional ram is needed, it will close the earliest apps suspended and keep the latest suspended in the background. Android manages ram actually very well if you have enough.. and if the app is optimized properly by its developers. Looking at my list of apps suspended in ram currently and the size they are taking up... yeah 6GB with anywhere from about 5gb or 4gb usable after the system and framework take their cut.. wouldn't cut it for some one coming from a Note that actually utilize their devices capabilities.
Apps take up more space than I think you realize to suspend in the background. But going back to an app and being exactly where I left off without refreshing or reloading is pretty important and worth the additional Ram on board.
If it works for you? Thats cool, but for many of us going from 8gb and 12gb down to 6gb is just ridiculous especially at that price point. Don't tell me its enough as it's clearly not for me, especially after looking at my own usage and the size of my apps running and resting in ram. Others have reported just that as well.. the system acting very sluggish if enough apps are opened, and apps opened earlier being reloaded when they switch back to them.
I'm glad that 6gb is enough for you as thats all you get with the Duo. But just because it works for you doesn't mean it will and should work for everyone else, thats silly.
If I ever owned a gen 1 Duo, it will be used with WiFi only as a companion to my computer for certain office apps. It probably wouldn't leave my desk. I definitely wouldn't use it for media consumption or gaming as the hinge literally eats content instead of properly spanning between the 2 displays, and I wouldn't have paid $1,500.00 for it as it is currently overpriced, I don't see that value in the device. 700 or 900 would probably make more sense. If it were 1,000 I'd probably consider purchasing along side my Note 20 ultra and galaxy fold 2 I have on the way.
Now the Surface Neo on the other hand.. I will definitely opt for it over the Duo as a 2nd or 3rd productivity device.
The latency is just..........
Edit: I refer to the latency of the surface pen
A trial with the Microsoft Launcher removed would be interesting.
It reminds me of early generation of Surface Pro. Microsoft with surface way steps ahead. Even now with Duo i think that google os android is not ready for this. For those who can't see where microsoft is going, should try to see deeper.
This is a great phone I got mine early 9/10/20 most of the negatives about the phone are due to using it wong. Also expecting to much from it without using it right. The reviews don't have to focus so much on the bad when half of it is their fault.
Exactly! People need to take their time to understand the device before making these conclusions. The device is really awesome and revolutionary. I don't think I will ever own a normal phone again.
🙄 sure it’s everyone else’s fault the phone is buggy
@@copiernerds YUP
The Wright's brothers contraptions kept crashing until long after they built their first iteration. Then, by tweaking the same wood, fabric, glue, and wheels, the same, as it were, hardware, the first 'plane flew and landed. So, I have no, doubt, will be the case with the
Surface Duo. Put one in a drawer and start it up in twelve months time, install the updates, and Wella, the thing will fly, and you' ll also be the owner of a pretty valuable first generation piece of high tech. What is its name. Well, one thing it isn' t is a 'phone. It' s a communicator/computer, the first of a kind.
For my PART, I need some sleep. I can't put mine down, night as well as as day.
Geoffrey Adams.
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I want to want to like it .
Like many I was weaned on Microsoft, but android came along like a wrecking ball .
I'll wait for duo 2 but but another old girlfriend is calling from Motorola, so many memories.
The nostalgia train is in town.
True. Razr 5G is lookin 👌 🔥
I find it a bit sluggish when changing the orientation. Otherwise the apps have not appeared sluggish. I have not had issues with Bluetooth. Love the Duo. Yes there are numerous issues but the two screens allow me to forgive. Things will be fixed. Whether by Microsoft or if Android 11 should not take too long. If you are comfortable with tech and understand it is a bit rough around the edges then don't be afraid to buy the Duo. I absolutely love it.
Yeah I going to wait for the second version come out
This is going to make Jerry Rig Everything's bend test really easy...
It was not that easy. In fact, the device was incredibly well built. Check out his video.
Nguyen Duy Thuc what I meant is that the hinge is 360 so it can bend all the way
Very short sighted review.
You said there was a ton of software bugs, but then didn't name any and only showed one or two.
I have had my surface duo for a day now and I love it. I am really not sure what these Microsoft haters are on to anymore. Yes, there bugs but honestly, it can be fixed with updates. The camera is not really that bad so I just don't get it. There is this natural hate from these so called reviewers that many are not objective anymore.
This device is not for all but I tell you no lie that for surface product users, the ecosystem is what makes it worth it. You literally have your surface pro in your hand.
I am already sold and can't wait for surface duo 2.
Check out Juan Bagnell's take on the Duo, I think you'll appreciate it. Very interesting view point on this device and why other reviewers hate on it so much
@@scottmiller5248 I don't need to.
don't tell us what to do with your savings your in charger
They could have had a camera bump on the inside with a cutout above the other screen. That way they could have fitted a proper camera while still maintains the flat closed book look on the outside.
Hype for this beta product is unreal!
no sane person can justify buying this over the fold 2
Sure they can. It costs 600 less and has bigger screens.
@@Aves_1 for a buggy phone? i dont think so
@@Aves_1 Don't forget to mention how garbage is the Duo!
1:28 - OK did you really need to keep that in the video? I mean what’s the freaking point of saying “Let me explain” if you’re just going to spend the entire rest of the video EXPLAINING THE ISSUES ANYWAY?! It makes no dang sense whatsoever!
do you have small hands because the duo look huuuuuge
Looks cool
Wow the DPad on that Razer controller looks super uncomfortable
My duo just crashed and booted to the recovery screen saying data may be lost. Retry or factory reset.
Garbage! I have 4 different replacements..just returned the 4th one today..
App developers likely won’t do much for optimizing apps for this device, simply cuz it now means a making a 3rd optimized version cuz they already had the normal android version, then the galaxy fold version and now a surface duo only model lol
This is how and why apples implementation would be so much better,
Meaning since Apple is the only manufacturer of iPhones and iPads, if and when they do make a folding device, they will have all the same experience from the lowest end model to the highest end model so iOS app developers will be able to make just a single folding screen version of their apps and not dealing with multiple other manufacturers wants for a folding device
Beautiful my butt. It's a mess. Period.
So you are telling me not to get this product because its shit, but YOU will continue to use it? How dare you. Just send me your trashy product and I will test it for you.
Why is this getting the attention it is ? Even in this video , you are acting like a duel screen, anything, is new. It's a buggy expensive mess with thick bezels and a potato camera, a awkward aspect ratio , especially when trying to use it as a single screen. Outdated internals , no high refreshing rate.. I'm glad MKBHD tore it apart.
Darth Bader vs the Light Side
I can't handle the huge bezels. I hope the duo 2 has half the size.
I'm glad they are innovating! That said, I'm disappointed (but not particularly surprised) to hear we have a long way to go. Thanks! (And love that title! 😂)
This phone is not ready to be launched... 1400 👀 not a chance in hell I would ever invest in this device.
It seems that Microsoft makes these devices as like proof of concepts and then I don't know if they let other windows PC makers use the design or what but look at the surface tablets, other windows PC makers all copied it. So I wonder if and when we will see some other PC makers come out with their versions of the Duo? When that happens it will really take off and more software developers will get on board and make apps for them too.
MisterFuturtastic That would be fantastic, the problem is that the demand simply isn’t there at this point.
@@Sharky165 True, but these manufacturers need to be the first to get into this kind of tech because they know it will be the future. It's an investment - like how so many manufacturers have been developing bendable oled displays for so long knowing that they are the future.
@@SHRModding Also, they make high end stuff to compete with Apple I think. I think that is the whole reason they got into high end hardware that looks like Apple stuff because no other PC maker would do it. I heard they don't even make money off their hardware. It's all to help PC makers innovate to change the perception of Windows so that Apple didn't keep dominating in certain areas.
She's my Rushmore Max.
you having any better luck yet with blue tooth
Do not get this phone!!! It is buggy as crap. Half of the time you can't get anything to work. Wait till the 2nd gen, then I think this could be a beast of a phone. And getting it returned is an absolute nightmare!!
A mees? Check previous Smartphones
It’s just two flattened phones connected by some good hinges.
Does it support USI stylus or just the Microsoft Surface Pens?
Surface pens only :(
Superficially if looks and brand are what matters to you, and you have $1400 to burn, then those niche MS fans may buy this? But for the rest of us, the Duo is a fail and very poor value.
Again innovation is only worthwhile if it improves or adds to your experience, the Duo is sadly not innovation ATM, it is a beta project that MS are unable to get to work well but have run out of time and have dumped the work in progress on their hardcore fans.
It is so disappointing as I am an advocate of this form factor rather than the Fold take, that is for the medium-term till folding glass becomes a reality. Apple gets knocked for taking its time to innovate but they rarely release such an incomplete device as this. It seems these days it is more important to beat deadlines than care for their customers which is a shame for their loyal fans. I may have put up with this low-spec featureless effort if it simply worked but the software is a mess and there is simply no excuse after all this time. The good news is that it can only get better and it certainly needs to.
andyH_England Agreed 💯, the Duo is physically beautiful, but this iteration was far too rushed, and the result is a tech train wreck, from both a hardware and software perspective.
Microsoft surface bug book.
Note20 ultra here
does this come with a pen
Prajwal N L Nope, not in the box. You have to buy a MS Surface pen separately.
@@Sharky165 for 1400 they should've ship it in the box
Z fold 2 5g is way better. The tablet mode is better. This is just 2 screens slapped together. If i wanted that I would tape 2 phone screens side to side and call it a day. Z fold 2 5G for the win!!!
Hardware team on point - Software team (fire them all)