Did Broadcom kill VMWare?

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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
  • Bob Pellerin (CTOBOB) sounds the alarm as to why he thinks you should abandon all hope of working with VMWare if you are an SMB unless you have a LOT money.
    Goodbye perpetual licenses.
    Goodbye vSphere Essentials.
    Goodbye free hypervisor.
    Farewell to affordability for the SMBs.
    Now is the time to reassess your infrastructure and come up with a plan!
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  • @kjakobsen
    @kjakobsen 3 місяці тому +15

    VMware isn't going anywhere. But they sure are giving the double barrel middle finger to the smallest customers.

    • @clickprovider8505
      @clickprovider8505 3 місяці тому +1

      There's far too much uncertainty to say where the brand is going to find itself in the next few years. VMware has been the go-to for so long and organizations are deeply embedded, but the growing number of reports of entities deploying alternatives (including some of their largest customers) as a direct response to the changes is pretty staggering.

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 3 місяці тому

      More like a fist to the elbow.

    • @mitchellsmith4601
      @mitchellsmith4601 2 місяці тому +1

      There are hypervisor alternatives which are lower cost or even free. They don’t have all VMware’s features but many customers won’t need all their features.

  • @greenftechn
    @greenftechn 3 місяці тому +13

    I moved to Proxmox last summer because of this. That has worked out well. My use case involves running 6 servers and 3 desktop OSs on the same high end computer.

  • @AndreasTriller
    @AndreasTriller 3 місяці тому +7

    Essentials does still exist, but it's a lot more expensive, like 4500$ per year subscription. That is 5 to 10 times what the maintenance was.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  3 місяці тому +1

      I was told only the essentials Plus was still available.

    • @AndreasTriller
      @AndreasTriller 3 місяці тому

      @@BobPellerin
      Yes, you are correct. It is Essentials Plus as a subscription. Limited to 3 hosts and 96 cores in total. And a lot more expensive than the maintenance for E+ was.

  • @DavidVincentSSM
    @DavidVincentSSM 3 місяці тому +6

    excellent video! sad that we are all in the same boat for companies both big and small.. for my part, I'm starting learning proxmox and getting comfortable with the reality that our next renewal will be 3x the cost and we will want to have a alternative available as leverage.

  • @lynnjr457
    @lynnjr457 2 місяці тому +2

    Anybody that was listening a year ago knew what Broadcom was going to do as they spoke plainly about their plans, so this isn't NEWS to many of us. Many people who would be greatly affected by Broadcom's aggressive tactics and didn't want to find a new solution, stuck their heads in the sand while hoping that Broadcom wouldn't get the deal approved in time. It is unfortunate to see all these content creators raising the alarm bells now vs. a year ago when it would have really helped people.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  2 місяці тому

      Although I saw it coming, I really thought there would be milder changes. Most smaller companies that use VMWare hadn’t even heard of Broadcom or the purchase, so it was a surprise for some for sure.

    • @lynnjr457
      @lynnjr457 2 місяці тому

      @@BobPellerin Small or Large, if your IT department is not staying on top of what is happening with your major infrastructure vendors (all IT vendors for that matter), they need to be replaced. Someone would have to be asleep at the wheel to ignore a deal that has been in the news as much as this one has. As to milder changes, I have to imagine you have not done much business with Broadcom as they have always been sharks waiting for blood in the water. Their business strategy is reminiscent of 1990s Microsoft forcing PC OEMs to only install Windows or they lose their ability to install any windows.
      The only people I see being blissfully unaware are the folks who only use perpetual licenses with no support. They aren't affected as harshly by this change since their perpetual licenses are still good, they just can't buy any new ones. That is until someone figures out how to create a secondary market with their old perpetual license keys after they move to a new hypervisor. Then they will get sued by Broadcom and shutdown at some point (or at least stalled).

  • @Nimitz_oceo
    @Nimitz_oceo 3 місяці тому +4

    Like you I have a couple of perpetual licenses, I purchased a few years back. What will happen to those licenses?

    • @carlosap78
      @carlosap78 3 місяці тому +3

      As far as I know, nothing, but you will not be able to purchase support for that.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for answering the question and helping the community!

  • @Djgotskillz3x3
    @Djgotskillz3x3 2 місяці тому +1

    Last month I bought a 2nd Dell Poweredge R820 for my startup’s server lab setup and decided to Migrate from ESXI to Proxmox after learning of this acquisition. Didn’t want to be held hostage by price increases scaling to a larger amount VMs. Took me 8 hours just to safely migrate 11 VMs. Could only imagine migrating large scale systems in Production…. I heard companies that spent 200k to migrate away from VMware 😮. So far so good with Proxmox.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for sharing! I haven't tried Proxmox yet. Can you migrate a vm to it easily? What tools did you use to convert them?

  • @michaelpietrzak2067
    @michaelpietrzak2067 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice video. As someone just now learning Vmware (long time HyperV user), it's a bummer if they kill off their smaller clients.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for your feedback!!!
      I am starting to understand why this is being done, but I can't say I like it. VMware has been a very stable company to deal with in the past. Now the SMB will have no choice but to look for alternative or, wait for it, go to the cloud... ;)

    • @donavonlewis1039
      @donavonlewis1039 2 місяці тому

      ummm not just smaller customers friends ...

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc 2 місяці тому

      @@BobPellerin Honestly, the cloud is so compelling that on-prem has become a bit of a niche. Last time I recommended on-prem virtualization to a client was 3 years ago when they wanted a hybrid solution (on-prem then sync to the cloud at night).

  • @alexpyattaev
    @alexpyattaev 3 місяці тому +8

    What VMware does that linux KVM does not?

    • @carlosap78
      @carlosap78 3 місяці тому

      KVM is just the hypervisor, like an engine. It needs a brand to support it, such as Red Hat, AWS, Microsoft, Debian, etc. So, you are basically paying for support and integration tools. VMware has been in the market for more than 20 years and is a very robust product with a lot of third-party integration. It has been proven in large-scale deployments. Other players have more or less the same capabilities, but people love VMware products.

    • @alexpyattaev
      @alexpyattaev 3 місяці тому +2

      @@carlosap78that sounds like a toxic relationship, where you have to pay license fees to your loved one...

  • @VenomKen
    @VenomKen 2 місяці тому +1

    They have for any projects for which I am the deciding factor.

  • @KevinLyda
    @KevinLyda 3 місяці тому +3

    I'm honestly confused why folks still use VMware. Xen, libvirt, OpenShift, etc all exist and are not expensive or security nightmares. Heck, UML is even better.
    Plus with containers I see even less reason.

    • @clickprovider8505
      @clickprovider8505 3 місяці тому +2

      Established infrastructure, cost and effort to retrain, loss of 3rd party integrations, enterprise support, ease of meeting regulatory compliance. Probably plenty of other reasons that demonstrate why historically its been easier to stick with VMware. It's well-known and reliable.

    • @KevinLyda
      @KevinLyda 3 місяці тому

      @@clickprovider8505 those were the same reasons for staying with netware or whatever. I did contract work in 1998 at a place still using uucp. Institutional inertia has a cost too.

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc 2 місяці тому

      Containers have to run on something - either bare metal or in a VM. Virtualization's main competitor isn't containers, it's IaaS cloud solutions like AWS EC2. Honestly, a lot of my clients are skipping over containers and going straight for serverless (AWS Lambda). Yes, same things, it's just a container under the hood - but they don't know or care - which is the point.

    • @KevinLyda
      @KevinLyda 2 місяці тому

      @@JasonTaylor-po5xc ok, but KVM does virtualization just fine. And there are decent wrappers for it.

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc 2 місяці тому

      @@KevinLyda If you are an executive at a mid-sized company - you're not going to choose KVM. Why? Peace of mind. Executives want someone to call when crap hits the fan. They would rather pick a supported platform over a technically superior one. And, let's face it, mid-sized companies struggle to find competent talent because they can't offer the salary or benefit structure of larger companies.

  • @lonelydronerfl5184
    @lonelydronerfl5184 Місяць тому +1

    No cloud! You're just trading one subscription model for another.

  • @hubertnnn
    @hubertnnn 3 місяці тому +3

    Since VMware is effectively dead, do you know about any open source attempts to replace it.
    I am expecting with so big product used almost everywhere there has to be an attempt to make an alternative,
    maybe even cofunded by all the companies that were left behind by VMware (like those that sent you the emails).
    I know that linux foundation took over some projects related to containers after Docker started abusing its monopoly and working against the community.
    So maybe they could build an open source version of VMware as well.

    • @siymann
      @siymann 3 місяці тому

      proxmox, unraid, + others around - all mature products that have been around for a long time

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 місяці тому

      Proxmox, xcp-ng

    • @carlosap78
      @carlosap78 3 місяці тому

      For small to medium deployments proxmox is the best choice, and for larger deployments, there are a lot of major players including Microsoft, Redhat, Citrix, SUSe, so there is no simple answer I'm afraid.

    • @lydelljackson5860
      @lydelljackson5860 2 місяці тому +1

      Please don't buy into this! VMware is NOT dead and is not going anywhere!!!!! Yes, perpetual license offerings are gone, however you own that and can use them forever. Will you be able to get support/patch updates with perpetual....No. The new bundles offer far more value!

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lydelljackson5860 are u serious now?

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 2 місяці тому +1

    The I.T. dept at my firm moved to Hyper-V about 2.5 years ago. They said they wish they did it in 2016.

    • @lynnjr457
      @lynnjr457 2 місяці тому +1

      For those who have fully bought into the Microsoft Ecosystem and who don't care about extensive Linux Support, Hyper-V is a viable solution. Unfortunately it has been pushed to the back burner by Microsoft with most development efforts going toward Azure technologies, so it's kind of stuck in it's 2020 form. The tools they have built for it in Azure aren't half of what they promised and it's Linux Support is absolutely abysmal compared to other products. With that said, we all have different needs and I happy to hear it's working out for them. We moved away from our Hyper-V environments when Microsoft went crazy with their own pricing a few years back. Sometimes it feels like a game of ping-pong between leaving one company who is gouging their customers to another.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for sharing.

  • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
    @JasonTaylor-po5xc 2 місяці тому +1

    I sorta doubt VMWare is truly dying (yet). Yes, they are dead to me, but Broadcom is focusing VMWare on large enterprises that can afford to pay whatever is charged. It sucks for everyone else because now there is no longer a natural and organic learning curve for IT specialists nor an easy upgrade path as small companies become large ones. Very long term, this might hurt VMWare since they are pushing everyone else to either open source solutions or directly into the cloud. Once in the cloud - why bother moving back to on-prem especially if you have implemented a cloud-native architecture from the start?

    • @Jai-qf8lw
      @Jai-qf8lw 2 місяці тому +1

      Lots of large scale enterprises want the ability to run what they do in public cloud on prem privately. Which is what VCF is doing. They are replicating what you see in a public cloud onto the private cloud on prem. Very secure and very smooth to move data around. Enterprise love VMWare for the fact that they’re able to move their data between their private and public clouds seamlessly. Broadcom did this just so they could effectively reduce their support costs from these smaller customers who make them Pennies on the dollar.

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jai-qf8lw I'm not saying there aren't valid use cases for on prem but the jump from cloud back to on-prem is huge and will require folks with expertise in VMWare - which will be harder to come by in the future. Once you have designed a cloud-first architecture there would need to be a compelling reason to change.

    • @Jai-qf8lw
      @Jai-qf8lw 2 місяці тому +1

      @@JasonTaylor-po5xc the compelling reason is already there. Large enterprises are building their on prem private clouds to help modernize and secure their mission critical workloads. There are initiatives being put in place to help increase the VMware ecosystem and expertise. It doesn’t matter if you design a cloud first architecture there’s still a high demand for companies wanting to have a private cloud on prem. that replicates what they get in the public cloud. Companies want to run workloads in a secure manner without having to comprise data in the public cloud lol there is no other compelling reason than having more security in your data center lol.

  • @mitchellsmith4601
    @mitchellsmith4601 2 місяці тому +3

    Sure am glad I didn’t waste all that time and money getting VMware certified.

    • @BobPellerin
      @BobPellerin  2 місяці тому

      You dodged the bullet. I guess. :) Thanks for sharing.

  • @adamcadd
    @adamcadd 2 місяці тому +3

    XCP-NG is a comparable product

  • @Losschris1
    @Losschris1 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm glad we made the move to hyper-v.

    • @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse
      @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse 3 місяці тому +2

      Really? I worked 7 months in a HyperV service provider. It was hell on earth for me.

    • @steeviebops
      @steeviebops 3 місяці тому

      @@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse I've been using Hyper-V in an MSP for various clients since about 2013. It hasn't really given me much trouble, has been one of the more reliable Microsoft services. It doesn't do as much as ESXi did but was good enough for the use cases we had.

  • @rabidbigdog
    @rabidbigdog 3 місяці тому +2

    Dell and Azure killed VMware.

    • @carlosap78
      @carlosap78 3 місяці тому +1

      It's not dead, just more expensive

    • @lydelljackson5860
      @lydelljackson5860 2 місяці тому

      That's funny and NOT true!!!!