Growing up all my life in the country and just recently moving to a big city, it's amazing how many city people have huge opinions about things they've never experienced.
That's so true and they act like they know it all lol. Most of them wouldn't survive for one day on their own in the wildreness but thank god for the gift of fear.
Same.. worse i live in what would be called agriculture and rural areas in the uk. And people talk so much thinking only wity heart mot logic but still they have no real intrest or drive to ever be in the wild. Even the crazy animal lovers would rather go to zoos
I moved to the suburbs and I laugh when all my neighbors are freaked out by a fox in the neighborhood. I had to explain to them that I’ve been keeping an eye out for bears since I was three years old, so a fox doesn’t even register to me.
Growing up all my life in the city and just recently moving to a small rural town, it’s amazing how many country people have huge opinions on things they’ve never experienced.
Yup lol There’s mountain lion warnings in my area right now and people are like “they won’t attack humans tho blah blah”. Ummmm a hungry one will. Humans are the weakest animals on the planet
I went to an area that was filled with wild bison. I was with a woman that was not from this country (Canada). She got out(of the car) and ran up to it and started to take pictures. I had to run out and pull her back into the car and explain how dangerous those animals are. They could flip my car with both of us in it. People just don't understand the power and wildness of these beautiful creatures.
Natural selection lol. It's good you did that and helped the lady out, but humans have done the very most to cut out natural selection for our species, and it has left us with a whole lot of people that would be dead if it wasn't for society. Whether that is good or not is a different conversation 😂😂😂 there are definitely some folks we could do without but society safeguards them and let's them breed to their hearts content 😬🤔
@@ActionJackson669 Oh yeah, we've steamrollered over any type of natural selection and agreed its hard to know if its good or bad really, I mean we've allowed people to live much longer lives which has allowed for inventions/ideologies from people who wouldn't be good survivors but they are very creative people and have pushed society forward, so its arguable whether its good or bad.
Was in Algonquin park in 2005, on a 9 day canoe trip (Summer camp we were like 10 yrs/old at the time)... We saw so much in our time there, that we might have maybe lost our sense of just how 'wild' animals could be. Anyway, we come up on an older female moose, and she was wading pretty far into the creek, up to her stomach, essentially swimming. The counsellors decide to take all the stuff out of a canoe, and both get in it, paddling as fast as they can after her so that one of em could jump on her and ride her. He didn't manage to ride it in the end because he slid off her back barely putting half his body on her, but I'll always remember how all it took was 5 days for us to completely lose our sense of human vs wild, and just sort of fall into that place.
Throw a puppy in the woods and he'll learn to become ruthless. Similar to those un-contacted tribal island dwellers who try to spear helicopters. They live on survivability, where most humans and domesticated dogs learn they don't need to depend on their survival instincts. In-fact even depending on their instincts wolfs and coyotes aren't much of a danger to humans. Animals attack when they're starving, protective, or fearful, not because they hate humans. Domesticated dogs are probably more dangerous than wild dogs. If you could control a tiger the same way as a dog, you could train him the same way.
week? Humans would do everything to get food after week. Even humans would kill eveything what they can to get food. We know how it works. We dont need to talk about dogs when we can talk about us.
The best memories in my life are those of my grandpa, my dad, and myself at camp. I learned to respect and appreciate nature... Life in general. The Ozarks are a beautiful place. 😌 I always think about those good 'ole days when the weather turns cold. I miss them both. 🥲
Pause the video and put a strip of acid in a headband and run on a treadmill for about 30 to 45 minutes getting a good sweat and when you’re done pound some whisky and resume the video
People are ridiculous. Dogs very much can live out in the wild. They know how to play people for food, hunt, and look for scraps. The will find a pack to help them aswell. People who think dogs aren't animals clearly never dealt with any dog bigger than 20 pounds
There was a pack of feral chihuahuas that roamed the area around my apartment in the city a few years ago. And I live in Oregon. They would try and surround me and my dogs when I was walking them. Pretty frightening even though they are small! 😅 Domesticated animals are still animals, and will adapt if they lose their humans. 🤷♀️
I'm 46. When I was growing up, there wasn't any leash laws, and curtailing the population of forgotten or discarded pets were just underway. It was commonplace to see 5-8 dogs, all different breeds, roaming together. If you see that shit, turn around and walk away. Once they are in a pack, all the pussy dog in them dissapears, they become hyper aggressive, and they will absolutely try and kill you for food.
@@God-7____ exactly, I've been working with dogs for years. Any dog no matter how derpy and cute can and will adapt to survive. They are far smarter then we give them credit for
@@phxnigtmare ion know why wut he said irritated me so. I told my daughter if we all froze to death in the house, the dog would eat us all. Any breed of dog will bite TF out of you. "They don't survive outside us" wtf? Isn't this a nature guy?
Meat eater is my favorite. Basically, the only educational hunting based program. The issue is everyone wants to buy political views. Many environment focused people don't understand what the right type of hunter or fisherman know. Steven is more influential that he will understand and he deserves his success.
He comes off as very arrogant, condescending and almost hypocritical. The part where he says he doesn’t care if your pet gets killed by wildlife but then goes on to say he would feel terrible if his family dog was killed just really annoyed me. It just really shows his pompous arrogant attitude
EXACTLY, you will never meet someone that is a more avid conservationist than a responsible outdoorsman as Joe said to Russel Brand “it’s dipping your toe into the natural order” and outdoorsman know and cherish that more than any PETA lobbyist ever will be able too
I live in Wyoming, and you are right. People who don’t live around wildlife are oblivious to the danger. These animals will destroy you. Get a telescope lens if you want a photo. They are not pets. They don’t know if you are friendly, they assume you are a threat. Tread lightly.
I work for a cemetery in Ohio and a little over a year ago two deer had a baby in there, the Male deer disappeared soon after and maybe for 2 months she was raising it naturally until one morning we came in to see she had impaled herself overnight trying to hop our wrought iron fence. she was put down, so it was just the little one. We basically raised it from there, building it a shelter, feeding it, now it's over a year old (male) getting some nice size horns, let's us walk right up to it, eats out of our hands, pet the hell out of it, just amazing. It never learned to be afraid of people. hopefully he'll stay with us till full grown. Take some amazing videos with him, once in a lifetime opportunity for most, his name is buddy. Almost sad though, a few deer have come in since and he tries to hang out with them but once they see he's friendly with humans, you can tell it weirds them out. A family of deer has since accumulated in there and he kind of follows them around, and if you approach them they all scatter but him. So we are kind of laying off the attention (in group) of him so he can experience a normal deer life, but he's been so sheltered, I think it would take a total disconnection to do that.
Lol imagine thinking antifa is the big probably when its literally those on the far right who commit mass shootings and casually storm government capitols
A neighbor of mine lost their Chihuahua to a big owl while it was taking a squirt before bed time. This owl had been hanging around our place for probably a decade.
I once saw a coyote while living in Los Angeles. I then moved out to the mountains of Colorado and holy SHIT. The first time I saw deer I took a dozen pictures. Then they started living in our yard. Then a family of about two dozen started eating our garden...They're constantly in the roads (btw, check your car insurance about this but a friend of mine hit a deer and totaled his vehicle and his insurance is refusing to cover it. He hired an attorney to sue the insurance company). Geico calls it "an act of nature" and therefore isn't covered, even with full comprehensive coverage. But I digress. I see foxes playing with each other, families of wild turkeys, I've seen a bear that lives in the area who is also friends with one of the foxes (go figure), moose, and immeasurable amounts of birds I've never seen before. I'm grateful to be around this much nature but you need to have your wits about you. I went from growing up in Los Angeles to the mountains of Colorado and it is a major adjustment. And when people flash their high beams at you out here it's because there's either deer near the road or there's a speed trap up ahead. I'm adjusting and I love it out here. Plus I can actually breathe the air. Smells like camping every single day.
@@manbowmeat2624 I agree completely. I'm an outlier though. California drove me nuts. Horrible governance. I've been registered independent since I turned 18 and have almost always voted Libertarian. The government in California has been tyrannical for decades. I worry about all the people fleeing the state now, not entirely understanding why they're unhappy, then coming to more sensible states and voting the same way they did that made them unhappy in the first place.
@@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 Sorry if this felt targeted toward you. I get where you're coming from. Unfortunately a lot of states are disgruntled thanks to big cities having huge impacts on voting regulations. California has some gorgeous landscape. But when your primary voting force is in compact cities with disconnects from reality it affects the rest negatively. I'm a Texas native and have seen some great cities start downward spirals thanks to Californian immigration into those cities. I'm still in my twenties, but I moved to Missouri to get away from most of it. I also liked the cheap land down here.
As a person who just moved to Oklahoma from nyc, I relate so hard! There are definitely more animals than people out here. I hear coyotes every night, we have a pack that crosses our square mile regularly. We had a porcupine in our drive a few weeks ago. Road runners cross the road in front of me all the time, and gophers make little dirt mounds all over the fields. I feel more like a natural human out here.
@@blairdraper wild dogs exist pal. And get a load of this because this will surprise you; humans are animals too, we are not seperate from animals as much as people would like to believe. Every living creature on earth is connected and we are all animals.
So true. Every hunter I know talks about how beautiful the animals out there are and even if they missed a shooting opportunity, they loved watching them in their environment. It's magical
My aunt used to work at the national parks by Zion and Grand Canyon and she would always say people would feed and and pet the elk and mule deer as if they were raised in captivity even though it was very clearly labeled and signed that the animals are non-domesticated.
Ill never get over the spelling. I saw the word spelled "pidgeon" the first time and stuck with it. Since then someone has told me it used to be like that in the olden times.
North Idaho is a great place to see wildlife. One of my favorite memories (kinda scary too) was when a mother moose and her baby came crashing through the trees next to my campsite when I was a kid!
I once had a dog that was raised wild in the Forrest and she became savage. She hunted. She didn’t need us more then for water. She chased off predators.
I live in Cody Wyoming. I counted 25 mule deer in my back yard few days ago. I live 50 east of Yellowstone and to see people in that park are very detached from actual wild animals.
Any "nature lover" with an ounce of real life experience knows that wildlife and the wilderness is no joke. It's beauty is not only visually but also from how powerful it is. Hell people die from house cats because they are so afraid of nature. If you are so distanced from reality that you don't want to punt a house cat attacking you then no wonder you think bears are friendly cuddly big dogs, or that moose are these cool looking giant deer.
House cats wre not capable of killing humans, not even a kid. You may end up with stitches and antibiotics. And they don't attack people unprovoked, unless they're playing. It's a domesticated animal.
Like that grizzly man guy, dude spent 13 summers camping out in a national park and maintained the same naive image of bears until it finally got him killed
I work backcountry trails in yellowstone for the NPS. There is a massive difference between the front country animals and the backcountry animals. 90% of yellowstone is pretty remote and requires hiking to get to. The buffalo in the backcountry and far more aggressive. The elk and deer a more skittish.... and the griz... the griz bears are much larger.
The quail, rabbits, ground squirrels and lizards in my area mean business. On a real note I was small game hunting and we found fresh mountain lion tracks just outside our campsite after hearing strange rustling nearby the night before. Definitely put things in perspective for all that were there as to who is really in charge.
Rinella is the man. I've always wanted to hear his opinion on musky fishing, and people keeping stocked muskies. He def keeps and eats fish but I wonder about long lived fish, specifically stocked for anglers to catch and recatch. Also wanna hear his thoughts on the exploding wolf population in WI and Mi although the Michigan wolves were brought in.
@@hughiepeel9383 the wolves in WI came down thru Minnesota from Canada they're all over up there. I musky fish nw Wisconsin north of Hayward and usually see more wolves each trip than bears. There's no hunting them either so they just populate more and more. Hell the guy who owns our boat storage facility shot a buck with a bow right behind the facility and had 4 wolves run past him and steal the deer. Had no idea they were even there
When my parents don't hear the coyotes howling they know that wolves are in the area they live north of the Dells in the southernmost area that wolves seem to go in the area
I went to F.E. Warren AFB WY a few years back while visiting my son who was stationed there. They have antelope wandering inside the base just a few yards from people. I worked at Ellsworth AFB S. Dakota and saw Elk there on base as well, but not a few yards away more like 50-60 yards. I see deer on Hurlburt Field Fl. quite often just a few yards away. But only at night. Military bases are great places to see wildlife.
As a Canadian who's seen a lot of wildlife... and also see all the tourists who stop and try and get pictures with them. Agreed. Some people have 0 idea how to behave and interact with actual wild animals.
We've been having issues with bears at our apartments. I live in an area surrounded by Arapahoe National Forest. I can go out walking and see elk of some of the trails. Its pretty nuts. Rocky Mountain National Park is definitely pretty domesticated but the forest out here is pretty wild. Hiked up a mountain called byers the other day and saw mountain goats. Pretty nuts
is he as boring and incoherent on his own time? this is my first exposure to him, he seems very un-remarkable and comes off as if he hasn't a clue, and never got to a solid point.
This is why I am so glad I live in the sticks I can go into the city if I want and have been to big cities which made me appreciate even more growing up around wildlife and appreciating every aspect of nature...I have always felt that everyone should at the very least know how their food is harvested and truthfully should see it at least once in their life with their own eyes it gives you a whole different outlook on your food. Ppl cry about hunting and animals being shot but every day they eat meat and that food is harvested just like a hunters many times under much worse conditions..At least if you hunt you know where your food comes from you appreciate it more and it's had a good life as most animals hunted are over populated or at the end of their lives not standing in their own 💩in a mass harvesting situation where they are just fattened up asap then killed..As long as the rules are followed in hunting you do it correctly not over hunting you will always have plenty of food and the animal will live a good life..
Samething when rural people think of cities they also think of the bad stuff like crime, drugs and gangs. People are always afraid of what they don’t know
@Bob C yeah well I’m from Chicago.. there are schools here that don’t have any of that and schools that have all of those things. I’m sure just like in Detroit.. I’d bet there are areas without those kind of precautions. But you’d be to ignorant to know about that.. enjoy your bliss. (Incase you don’t get it, I’m talking about your ignorance)
I have a really different experience with the dogs. Pretty interesting to hear this and think about my Big staff rot weiler mix. Great to hear some developed views on these things
4:10 That's not that amazing. My cat is scared of me when we are both outside, but when he is inside with me he sleeps with me at night and lays on my lap when I play games. Animals are just smarter than we think.
@@ilovetheatf Ha ha ha!! I actually live in South Dakota, but I only live 4 miles from the North Dakota state line, and I work in North Dakota. But yes, both South Dakota and North Dakota still have less than one million people each
My buddy in Ontario lived on the edge of a forest preserve. He had deer in his yard from spring to fall. They gave birth there, ate out of his kids hands, drank out of his kiddie pool. As soon as the first shot was fired during the fall hunting season, they disappeared into the forest where hunting was prohibited.
I'm literally looking at a deer from my window in Montana, and listening to these people, Rogan included, talk like they think they're Daniel Boone is a riot
I've literally seen deer not only in people's yards in suburban areas, but also trotting down the sidewalk in the middle of Colorado Springs. Having one in your yard doesn't say much about your knowledge of wildlife, Jim Shockey. Lol
Dude there's deer running around in my yard, my neighbors yards, they even cross my kids bus stop all the time, you need a better example cause I'm in a suburban area and you looking at a deer out your window don't seem like a good way to show how you are more familiar with wildlife than Joe and Steve.
I think the point they're making is the animals that most people are used to expect to see humans, observe humans and aren't in full animal mode like they would be deep in a forest/jungle. But the way its hyped is confusing some people
I grew up on a farm in the middle of the woods for 18 years. I moved to the city and it was the first time I ever saw a living squirrel or rabbit within 6 feet. Scared the crap out of me 🤣🤣 We hunt where I'm from and bush meat knows not to get close. Folks who live off the land respect and care for the land and animals that keep us alive and the earth beautiful
Joe..I'd love to see an interview with someone who specializes in raising wild animals from young to discuss wild vs domesticated animals👏that would be a great discussion 🙂👋
I hunted and guided in the Canadian Rockies for 38 years. I know and acquaintance who moved form a big city to Canmore (near Banff National Park) who was a dyed in the wool nature lover (who had never really been in nature) anyway this person had been warned by me and others to be very careful and wary when out on the bike paths around Canmore since there is a large population of bears, wolves and cougars in the area. "oh I'm not worried about that" they said " I've got Champ (a 110 pound Shepard) to protect me" Well one day while coming home from a walk Champ when hell for leather around to the back of the house...when the owner of the dog got to the back yard they were confronted with Champ hanging lifelessly from the jaws of a mountain lion who promptly jumped the six foot fence (with Champ in his mouth) and ran away. People are stupid, but lucky...next time it might not be the dog. And unfortunately some years after this occurred we indeed had a fatal cougar attack on a resident in Canmore. People who have no knowledge of how to behave in connection to wildlife of any kind need to educate themselves to respect wildlife, or suffer the consequences.
Steve is great at expressing thought and feelings. He’s very ethically driven. I have served in Sierra Leone the Balkans plus Iraq and Afghanistan and I’ve taken human life. But I feel worse about not taking an game animal cleanly in the USA than I feel about my combat ‘targets’ on tours. Judge me but I’m being honest.
2 weeks ago our cat went out like she has the past 12years and didn’t come back. Saw a coyote 3 days before in front of our house. Its part of life, still sucks though. Neighbors went missing around the same time. Our dog was acting crazy that day circling our property kept coming up to us then doing another circle around our property he knew right away even though he was inside when she was out. Animals are so heightened
My cat was almost carried off by a golden eagle. I was more amazed at being that close to a golden eagle in by back yard than thinking about saving my cat. The eagle flew off and didn't eat my cat.
Golden eagles are massive, bigger than bald eagles. I watched a bald eagle fight a heron north of Hayward WI last year and couldn't wrap my head around what I was watching
@@illmuskyhunter3313 that was the first time I seen one up close. We have bald eagles all over the place, up and down the river. This golden eagle looked bigger than me. My back yard is a little under 14 acres I see all kinds of bird. I had a family of sharp shins living here for five years and love watching them beat the hell out of crows. But that golden eagle is something I will never forget. It is bigger than the vultures.
I have pictures from to late 70's when I was really young of my Dads best friend being chased by a Male Bison in Yellowstone... he didnt see ot creeping up on him and didnt listen to us till almost too late and had to run and jump into the old Dodge van we were all in. Great memory... pay attention or you MIGHT GET GOT!!
Dogs are all basically infant wolves, they never grow up. Adult wolves are entirely different. My mum once adopted one and we could go and walk them. But you can't master them and have to know your position in the pack ie: never touch their heads.
srspower yeah. My point was joe said they’re not animals and can not survive without humans. They can and do. In Pripyat for example they are fairly successful predators
@@ricksanchez4813 both Joe and Rinella have a simplistic and unscientific grasp of this, they aren't entirely wrong, but I would not listen to them for actual facts. This guy and Joe are hunters, that's their relationship with nature.
Happened to see a raccoon and an owl while sitting outside tonight in central Austin. I think a lot of people don’t spend much time outside, and when they do, they are not sitting still for long.
I made eye contact with a caged tiger, and the way he looked at me, I can tell that he didn't like me, and would have hurt me if given the chance......... I felt really bad him. I hate Zoo's
I love hearing these people who’ve never set foot outside an urban setting, talking about how cute and cuddly wild animals are. I want them to come out to PA where I live when a bear comes into my garage to get at my trash. I’d say “yeah go pet it they’re super friendly”.... Chomp
Snow geese knew where we could hunt & how far our shotguns could shoot. Also, in the Rattlesnake drainage in Missoula, there is a collared mom grizzly with cubs who doesn't often get noticed. She comes down into neighborhoods & raids bird feeders but not trashcans, and it seems she has been teaching her kids to stay out of trouble.
Oh joe we have wild dogs in Australia. Some are domestic dogs that have been left in the bush by people but then we have like domestic dingo hybrids. And they will make packs and kill everything.
Growing up all my life in the country and just recently moving to a big city, it's amazing how many city people have huge opinions about things they've never experienced.
That's so true and they act like they know it all lol. Most of them wouldn't survive for one day on their own in the wildreness but thank god for the gift of fear.
Same.. worse i live in what would be called agriculture and rural areas in the uk. And people talk so much thinking only wity heart mot logic but still they have no real intrest or drive to ever be in the wild. Even the crazy animal lovers would rather go to zoos
Very annoying
I moved to the suburbs and I laugh when all my neighbors are freaked out by a fox in the neighborhood. I had to explain to them that I’ve been keeping an eye out for bears since I was three years old, so a fox doesn’t even register to me.
Growing up all my life in the city and just recently moving to a small rural town, it’s amazing how many country people have huge opinions on things they’ve never experienced.
The most wild animal where I live are methheads
Low Honor Arthur Morgan you ain’t kidding there. You need a side arm for them around here when you go in the woods now.
Florida people are also very wild as well.
Low Honor Arthur Morgan Arizona, Nevada or Cali?
@@k1llersm0ke Meth is literally everywhere.
@@k1llersm0ke If you don't get out much, I understand that you would just jump on that cliche. Someone on your street right now is on meth.
The modern person is extremely detached from nature and the fact that people think wildlife is friendly is showing how quickly we are getting dumber
Real wildlife doesn’t want anything to do with humans because they know we’ve hunted them for centuries
@Artemis Exile Yep, the animals that are prey are friendly. I can tell you’ve never been around any real predators.
Yup lol There’s mountain lion warnings in my area right now and people are like “they won’t attack humans tho blah blah”. Ummmm a hungry one will. Humans are the weakest animals on the planet
Oh we don't think wildlife is friendly but it better act as such or its getting killed
i wouldn’t say getting “dumber” but i get what you mean
"Most people don't know what animals are"
- Joe Rogan
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Animals? Not people right??? 😆😆😆😆😆
Well no they dont.
Most of then think chocolate milk comes from brown cows.
@@WayStedYou What is a cow?
Who said chocolate milk is an animal? Everyone knows what an animal is
Watching this video as a kangaroo jumps past my car lol
Why are you driving and watching a video
@@nayrtnartsipacify did you know you can be in a car without the car moving?
Evan Abernathy Lol thanks for answering for me haha, im parked in the bush :D and even if, the only thing im gonna run over out here is a roo lol
@@carloS-jy1fl the most Australian thing I've ever read
@Jordan Moir the fuck you yakking about?
I need to bowhunt near Joe’s vending machine.
Vending machine at Yellowstone national park
@@ActionJackson669 Soccer has a goalie but you can still score
I went to an area that was filled with wild bison. I was with a woman that was not from this country (Canada). She got out(of the car) and ran up to it and started to take pictures. I had to run out and pull her back into the car and explain how dangerous those animals are. They could flip my car with both of us in it. People just don't understand the power and wildness of these beautiful creatures.
Natural selection lol. It's good you did that and helped the lady out, but humans have done the very most to cut out natural selection for our species, and it has left us with a whole lot of people that would be dead if it wasn't for society. Whether that is good or not is a different conversation 😂😂😂 there are definitely some folks we could do without but society safeguards them and let's them breed to their hearts content 😬🤔
@@ActionJackson669 Oh yeah, we've steamrollered over any type of natural selection and agreed its hard to know if its good or bad really, I mean we've allowed people to live much longer lives which has allowed for inventions/ideologies from people who wouldn't be good survivors but they are very creative people and have pushed society forward, so its arguable whether its good or bad.
Doesn’t matter where she’s from it’s common sense that an animal that big should be respected.
Joe "most people have never" rogan
Grew up in the Rockies, drinking as a teenager, one of our buddies would always try to knock a deer out. He succeeded at least once.
Was in Algonquin park in 2005, on a 9 day canoe trip (Summer camp we were like 10 yrs/old at the time)... We saw so much in our time there, that we might have maybe lost our sense of just how 'wild' animals could be. Anyway, we come up on an older female moose, and she was wading pretty far into the creek, up to her stomach, essentially swimming. The counsellors decide to take all the stuff out of a canoe, and both get in it, paddling as fast as they can after her so that one of em could jump on her and ride her. He didn't manage to ride it in the end because he slid off her back barely putting half his body on her, but I'll always remember how all it took was 5 days for us to completely lose our sense of human vs wild, and just sort of fall into that place.
Great fake story man.
@@poacher-ec9zo try apples, pull tags.
This comment is one of the reasons I still enjoy youtube
I believe it. I used to try and catch birds with my bare hands when I was a kid. You can sneak up on animals if it's a fluke
I laughed out loud when Joe said, "To see an animal wind you, and then just fcking *bounce*" lmao
I bet half the viewers didn’t know what that meant
@Mohammed Ali the g haha it just means the animal is down wind from you and smelled you
Lol. Yup. The bucks usually just bounce. The does at my place just run around me in circle snorting. They got to use to not getting shot at.
Take a dogs food away for a week or a person's for that matter and see how domesticated they are
what’s your point lol
Throw a puppy in the woods and he'll learn to become ruthless.
Similar to those un-contacted tribal island dwellers who try to spear helicopters. They live on survivability, where most humans and domesticated dogs learn they don't need to depend on their survival instincts. In-fact even depending on their instincts wolfs and coyotes aren't much of a danger to humans. Animals attack when they're starving, protective, or fearful, not because they hate humans. Domesticated dogs are probably more dangerous than wild dogs.
If you could control a tiger the same way as a dog, you could train him the same way.
week? Humans would do everything to get food after week. Even humans would kill eveything what they can to get food. We know how it works. We dont need to talk about dogs when we can talk about us.
Hunger exists??? wow bro that’s deep
@@nick1834 If that's sarcasm you missed the point.
Joe seems to be most comfortable in these types of conversations I noticed.
He's also good friends with Steve.
The best memories in my life are those of my grandpa, my dad, and myself at camp. I learned to respect and appreciate nature... Life in general.
The Ozarks are a beautiful place. 😌
I always think about those good 'ole days when the weather turns cold.
I miss them both. 🥲
I always wanted to hunt that place ever since I watched where the red fern grows back in the day looks like good fishing and hunting place
I'd like to visit that area. I doubt it's anything like it was in "The Hunters Of Cherokee Country" though. :-(
I'm not high enough for this conversation.
I am lol
Word lol
you saying stuff a 13 year old would probably say
Pause the video and put a strip of acid in a headband and run on a treadmill for about 30 to 45 minutes getting a good sweat and when you’re done pound some whisky and resume the video
Bobby Boucher is that a real way people take acid lol I just put it under my tongue
Having deer, rabbits, groundhogs, snakes, squirrels, bats, and vultures being in my yard every day really gives you insight on wildlife.
No really because they’re not behaving as they truly do or they wouldn’t be in you’re yard.
@@riverbanks3287 smh
Ever heard of a pack of wild dogs? Oooh yeah they turn feral faster than you think
People are ridiculous. Dogs very much can live out in the wild. They know how to play people for food, hunt, and look for scraps. The will find a pack to help them aswell. People who think dogs aren't animals clearly never dealt with any dog bigger than 20 pounds
There was a pack of feral chihuahuas that roamed the area around my apartment in the city a few years ago. And I live in Oregon. They would try and surround me and my dogs when I was walking them. Pretty frightening even though they are small! 😅 Domesticated animals are still animals, and will adapt if they lose their humans. 🤷♀️
I'm 46. When I was growing up, there wasn't any leash laws, and curtailing the population of forgotten or discarded pets were just underway.
It was commonplace to see 5-8 dogs, all different breeds, roaming together. If you see that shit, turn around and walk away. Once they are in a pack, all the pussy dog in them dissapears, they become hyper aggressive, and they will absolutely try and kill you for food.
@@God-7____ exactly, I've been working with dogs for years. Any dog no matter how derpy and cute can and will adapt to survive. They are far smarter then we give them credit for
@@phxnigtmare ion know why wut he said irritated me so. I told my daughter if we all froze to death in the house, the dog would eat us all. Any breed of dog will bite TF out of you. "They don't survive outside us" wtf? Isn't this a nature guy?
You have to be bear-aware. *In my neighborhood, there are gay bars everywhere.*
Eddy Baller 😂😂😂
Lol were the fuck you live at
@@joe4398 Canada
Eddy Baller lol of dam
Eddy Baller 🤣
Meat eater is my favorite. Basically, the only educational hunting based program. The issue is everyone wants to buy political views. Many environment focused people don't understand what the right type of hunter or fisherman know. Steven is more influential that he will understand and he deserves his success.
He comes off as very arrogant, condescending and almost hypocritical. The part where he says he doesn’t care if your pet gets killed by wildlife but then goes on to say he would feel terrible if his family dog was killed just really annoyed me. It just really shows his pompous arrogant attitude
@@davelowesky8054 i think he meant how did you fuck up enough to let your pet get killed by the animal is what he meant.
EXACTLY, you will never meet someone that is a more avid conservationist than a responsible outdoorsman as Joe said to Russel Brand “it’s dipping your toe into the natural order” and outdoorsman know and cherish that more than any PETA lobbyist ever will be able too
I live in Wyoming, and you are right. People who don’t live around wildlife are oblivious to the danger. These animals will destroy you. Get a telescope lens if you want a photo. They are not pets. They don’t know if you are friendly, they assume you are a threat. Tread lightly.
I work for a cemetery in Ohio and a little over a year ago two deer had a baby in there, the Male deer disappeared soon after and maybe for 2 months she was raising it naturally until one morning we came in to see she had impaled herself overnight trying to hop our wrought iron fence. she was put down, so it was just the little one. We basically raised it from there, building it a shelter, feeding it, now it's over a year old (male) getting some nice size horns, let's us walk right up to it, eats out of our hands, pet the hell out of it, just amazing. It never learned to be afraid of people. hopefully he'll stay with us till full grown. Take some amazing videos with him, once in a lifetime opportunity for most, his name is buddy. Almost sad though, a few deer have come in since and he tries to hang out with them but once they see he's friendly with humans, you can tell it weirds them out. A family of deer has since accumulated in there and he kind of follows them around, and if you approach them they all scatter but him. So we are kind of laying off the attention (in group) of him so he can experience a normal deer life, but he's been so sheltered, I think it would take a total disconnection to do that.
Fair play mate love that. what happened?
He will be super dangerous when it comes to rut season just because he got used to people being friendly
That’s an awesome story! Give us an update it’s been 2 years since you posted this.
@StreetX he’s gonna get shot because
You guys should eat the deer
I worked at Yellowstone and seen many ppl get attacked by elk. Even had times we couldn't leave our living quarters for hours
Haha
Why lie on the internet?
This true
@@neurohack9038 I was laughing because I believe it and can picture an elk kicking someone's ass
We went when I was little and I couldn't believe how they were all over town. They look cute, but they are some big and tough buggers!
The wild animals in my area have a different name. They are called "antifa"
Lame.
@@kevinsumner1545 Ikr? They are indeed lame.
Lol imagine thinking antifa is the big probably when its literally those on the far right who commit mass shootings and casually storm government capitols
@@Spongebrain97 mass shootings has nothing to do with political affiliation. Most shooters don’t affiliate with any party in all actuality.
@@psychedelicpain420 antifa is an ideology, not an organization. It’s kind of dumbfounding that the right still can’t comprehend this.
A neighbor of mine lost their Chihuahua to a big owl while it was taking a squirt before bed time. This owl had been hanging around our place for probably a decade.
Owls are ruthless predators. There's one that lives in my neighborhood and I've seen it hunt Rats at night, they stand no chance against it.
The title of this video should be: “Most people in Cities never see Wildlife”
They do see sewer rats and lice!.
I'm Australia U come across wildlife all the time, and we respect that.
A DMT bong rip in the forest
I'm gonna try that.
@@trillgates2452 let us know how it was
Will a bong not destroy the DMT? Vape better yield!
😂😂😂😂😂
I smoked some DMT in the woods and seen this family of deers walk up 10 feet away from me. The looked like furry robots. Fuckn weird.
I once saw a coyote while living in Los Angeles. I then moved out to the mountains of Colorado and holy SHIT. The first time I saw deer I took a dozen pictures. Then they started living in our yard. Then a family of about two dozen started eating our garden...They're constantly in the roads (btw, check your car insurance about this but a friend of mine hit a deer and totaled his vehicle and his insurance is refusing to cover it. He hired an attorney to sue the insurance company). Geico calls it "an act of nature" and therefore isn't covered, even with full comprehensive coverage.
But I digress. I see foxes playing with each other, families of wild turkeys, I've seen a bear that lives in the area who is also friends with one of the foxes (go figure), moose, and immeasurable amounts of birds I've never seen before.
I'm grateful to be around this much nature but you need to have your wits about you. I went from growing up in Los Angeles to the mountains of Colorado and it is a major adjustment. And when people flash their high beams at you out here it's because there's either deer near the road or there's a speed trap up ahead.
I'm adjusting and I love it out here. Plus I can actually breathe the air. Smells like camping every single day.
Californians, bringing their bad voting policies to the rest of the world.
@@manbowmeat2624 I agree completely. I'm an outlier though. California drove me nuts. Horrible governance. I've been registered independent since I turned 18 and have almost always voted Libertarian. The government in California has been tyrannical for decades. I worry about all the people fleeing the state now, not entirely understanding why they're unhappy, then coming to more sensible states and voting the same way they did that made them unhappy in the first place.
@@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 Sorry if this felt targeted toward you. I get where you're coming from. Unfortunately a lot of states are disgruntled thanks to big cities having huge impacts on voting regulations. California has some gorgeous landscape. But when your primary voting force is in compact cities with disconnects from reality it affects the rest negatively. I'm a Texas native and have seen some great cities start downward spirals thanks to Californian immigration into those cities. I'm still in my twenties, but I moved to Missouri to get away from most of it. I also liked the cheap land down here.
As a person who just moved to Oklahoma from nyc, I relate so hard! There are definitely more animals than people out here. I hear coyotes every night, we have a pack that crosses our square mile regularly. We had a porcupine in our drive a few weeks ago. Road runners cross the road in front of me all the time, and gophers make little dirt mounds all over the fields. I feel more like a natural human out here.
I need to go on my first hunt with Steve and get hooked like Joe...that would be epic!
Breaking News: Joe Rogan doesn’t believe dogs are animals....
Josh Smith they’re just not wildlife...
@@blairdraper wild dogs exist pal. And get a load of this because this will surprise you; humans are animals too, we are not seperate from animals as much as people would like to believe. Every living creature on earth is connected and we are all animals.
@@ActionJackson669 that’s a different breed tho most pet dogs don’t belong in wildlife & you know that
Oh please I lived in Alberta for 42 years and am now in British Columbia. You come here to see our wildlife Joe.
Can't get away from it here in AUS and I LOVE IT
Spending hours/days in the woods observing wildlife every fall/winter is an awesome experience even if I don't fill my tag/s
So true. Every hunter I know talks about how beautiful the animals out there are and even if they missed a shooting opportunity, they loved watching them in their environment. It's magical
My aunt used to work at the national parks by Zion and Grand Canyon and she would always say people would feed and and pet the elk and mule deer as if they were raised in captivity even though it was very clearly labeled and signed that the animals are non-domesticated.
I've seen pigeons
I've seen your mom
@ I raa ain't seen a your mom joke in so long I can't tell if ur trollin
I've met a penguins for 50$ painted art with its little feet too.
Ill never get over the spelling. I saw the word spelled "pidgeon" the first time and stuck with it. Since then someone has told me it used to be like that in the olden times.
The woodpigeon is an incredible wild animal. I shoot them a lot, they have amazing eyesight.
North Idaho is a great place to see wildlife. One of my favorite memories (kinda scary too) was when a mother moose and her baby came crashing through the trees next to my campsite when I was a kid!
Definitely don't wanna mess with moose, they will fuck people up expeditiously lol
Steve voice reminds so so much of my child hood . Such a old man I want in my life
I once had a dog that was raised wild in the Forrest and she became savage. She hunted. She didn’t need us more then for water.
She chased off predators.
That statement of Joe's wasn't completely true sum bloodlines/breeds are more capable of survivor without humans then others
Joe "selfies with elk" Rogan
Hello from Idaho! Thanks for the shoutout Joe!
Joe is the man. Smart, calm, and always looking to learn.
I live in Cody Wyoming. I counted 25 mule deer in my back yard few days ago. I live 50 east of Yellowstone and to see people in that park are very detached from actual wild animals.
Any "nature lover" with an ounce of real life experience knows that wildlife and the wilderness is no joke. It's beauty is not only visually but also from how powerful it is. Hell people die from house cats because they are so afraid of nature. If you are so distanced from reality that you don't want to punt a house cat attacking you then no wonder you think bears are friendly cuddly big dogs, or that moose are these cool looking giant deer.
House cats wre not capable of killing humans, not even a kid. You may end up with stitches and antibiotics. And they don't attack people unprovoked, unless they're playing. It's a domesticated animal.
Like that grizzly man guy, dude spent 13 summers camping out in a national park and maintained the same naive image of bears until it finally got him killed
I work backcountry trails in yellowstone for the NPS. There is a massive difference between the front country animals and the backcountry animals. 90% of yellowstone is pretty remote and requires hiking to get to. The buffalo in the backcountry and far more aggressive. The elk and deer a more skittish.... and the griz... the griz bears are much larger.
Great video!
The quail, rabbits, ground squirrels and lizards in my area mean business. On a real note I was small game hunting and we found fresh mountain lion tracks just outside our campsite after hearing strange rustling nearby the night before. Definitely put things in perspective for all that were there as to who is really in charge.
When he phone rang I thought it was mine and I was looking around for it lol
I'm from NYC that's enough wildlife I can need!!! 😂😂😂
I lived in Bozeman, it was beautiful!!
Deer also know patches of urban forest are great bedding areas. Or, right behind a house that has a dog on a chain that barks incessantly.
Charles Howell or under the porch or on the barn on an overgrown farm/homestead.
They KNOW every inch of their territory
Rinella is the man. I've always wanted to hear his opinion on musky fishing, and people keeping stocked muskies. He def keeps and eats fish but I wonder about long lived fish, specifically stocked for anglers to catch and recatch. Also wanna hear his thoughts on the exploding wolf population in WI and Mi although the Michigan wolves were brought in.
Is the wolf situation bad? Pretty sure I read something sometime
@@hughiepeel9383 the wolves in WI came down thru Minnesota from Canada they're all over up there. I musky fish nw Wisconsin north of Hayward and usually see more wolves each trip than bears. There's no hunting them either so they just populate more and more. Hell the guy who owns our boat storage facility shot a buck with a bow right behind the facility and had 4 wolves run past him and steal the deer. Had no idea they were even there
When my parents don't hear the coyotes howling they know that wolves are in the area they live north of the Dells in the southernmost area that wolves seem to go in the area
I went to F.E. Warren AFB WY a few years back while visiting my son who was stationed there. They have antelope wandering inside the base just a few yards from people. I worked at Ellsworth AFB S. Dakota and saw Elk there on base as well, but not a few yards away more like 50-60 yards. I see deer on Hurlburt Field Fl. quite often just a few yards away. But only at night. Military bases are great places to see wildlife.
As a Canadian who's seen a lot of wildlife... and also see all the tourists who stop and try and get pictures with them.
Agreed.
Some people have 0 idea how to behave and interact with actual wild animals.
Joe "never heard of feral dogs" Rogan
Feral dogs are in cities not out in the wilderness. They wouldn't survive in the wild.
My profiel pic is a buck I named Joe Rogan. Thank you for teaching people. Your absolutly right. Nothing like the thrill of the hunt.
The Joe Rogan power in the title is strong
We've been having issues with bears at our apartments. I live in an area surrounded by Arapahoe National Forest. I can go out walking and see elk of some of the trails. Its pretty nuts. Rocky Mountain National Park is definitely pretty domesticated but the forest out here is pretty wild. Hiked up a mountain called byers the other day and saw mountain goats. Pretty nuts
Sounds pretty nuts
I love the Rinella podcasts, everything these guys are speaking is the truth.
is he as boring and incoherent on his own time? this is my first exposure to him, he seems very un-remarkable and comes off as if he hasn't a clue, and never got to a solid point.
This is why I am so glad I live in the sticks I can go into the city if I want and have been to big cities which made me appreciate even more growing up around wildlife and appreciating every aspect of nature...I have always felt that everyone should at the very least know how their food is harvested and truthfully should see it at least once in their life with their own eyes it gives you a whole different outlook on your food. Ppl cry about hunting and animals being shot but every day they eat meat and that food is harvested just like a hunters many times under much worse conditions..At least if you hunt you know where your food comes from you appreciate it more and it's had a good life as most animals hunted are over populated or at the end of their lives not standing in their own 💩in a mass harvesting situation where they are just fattened up asap then killed..As long as the rules are followed in hunting you do it correctly not over hunting you will always have plenty of food and the animal will live a good life..
Ps: Brilliant piece of broadcasting.
Samething when rural people think of cities they also think of the bad stuff like crime, drugs and gangs. People are always afraid of what they don’t know
@Bob C yeah well I’m from Chicago.. there are schools here that don’t have any of that and schools that have all of those things. I’m sure just like in Detroit.. I’d bet there are areas without those kind of precautions. But you’d be to ignorant to know about that.. enjoy your bliss. (Incase you don’t get it, I’m talking about your ignorance)
Joe "you want me to send it to you? I'll send it to you" Rogan
I have mountain lions, foxes, bobcats, coyotes, deer and several types of varmints in the area.
I have a really different experience with the dogs. Pretty interesting to hear this and think about my Big staff rot weiler mix. Great to hear some developed views on these things
4:10 That's not that amazing. My cat is scared of me when we are both outside, but when he is inside with me he sleeps with me at night and lays on my lap when I play games. Animals are just smarter than we think.
I love wildlife...also I'm terrified 😆
Try water skiing across the lawn behind a full blown steer that decided to make a break for it
just before you had go to work
Nice shout out to Boise Idaho!
That incident with the 9 year old girl was in North Dakota, not Yellowstone. It was in Roosevelt National Park
Ok
@paula I have been to both parks and you must not own a map. They are almost 500 miles away from each other. Wow, the ignorance abounds.
Bet
You cant fool me loser, I know for a fact nobody fucking lives in north Dakota and its really a government base.
@@ilovetheatf Ha ha ha!! I actually live in South Dakota, but I only live 4 miles from the North Dakota state line, and I work in North Dakota. But yes, both South Dakota and North Dakota still have less than one million people each
Joe “deep ponder after possums and raccoons comment” Rogan at the end.
Love Meat Eater. It’s a great show. If you ever need extra hunters for the show please contact me lol
My buddy in Ontario lived on the edge of a forest preserve. He had deer in his yard from spring to fall. They gave birth there, ate out of his kids hands, drank out of his kiddie pool. As soon as the first shot was fired during the fall hunting season, they disappeared into the forest where hunting was prohibited.
I'm literally looking at a deer from my window in Montana, and listening to these people, Rogan included, talk like they think they're Daniel Boone is a riot
I lived in Helena for 6 months, and there were entire families of deer that would walk around town, even downtown. And Helena isn't a small town
I've literally seen deer not only in people's yards in suburban areas, but also trotting down the sidewalk in the middle of Colorado Springs. Having one in your yard doesn't say much about your knowledge of wildlife, Jim Shockey. Lol
Most doesn't mean all
Dude there's deer running around in my yard, my neighbors yards, they even cross my kids bus stop all the time, you need a better example cause I'm in a suburban area and you looking at a deer out your window don't seem like a good way to show how you are more familiar with wildlife than Joe and Steve.
I think the point they're making is the animals that most people are used to expect to see humans, observe humans and aren't in full animal mode like they would be deep in a forest/jungle. But the way its hyped is confusing some people
I grew up on a farm in the middle of the woods for 18 years. I moved to the city and it was the first time I ever saw a living squirrel or rabbit within 6 feet. Scared the crap out of me 🤣🤣 We hunt where I'm from and bush meat knows not to get close. Folks who live off the land respect and care for the land and animals that keep us alive and the earth beautiful
7:50 SO MUCH YES!
Im from NorCal, we have bear even in the valley sometimes. Really neat animals to see in the wild.
Joe..I'd love to see an interview with someone who specializes in raising wild animals from young to discuss wild vs domesticated animals👏that would be a great discussion 🙂👋
I hunted and guided in the Canadian Rockies for 38 years. I know and acquaintance who moved form a big city to Canmore (near Banff National Park) who was a dyed in the wool nature lover (who had never really been in nature) anyway this person had been warned by me and others to be very careful and wary when out on the bike paths around Canmore since there is a large population of bears, wolves and cougars in the area. "oh I'm not worried about that" they said " I've got Champ (a 110 pound Shepard) to protect me" Well one day while coming home from a walk Champ when hell for leather around to the back of the house...when the owner of the dog got to the back yard they were confronted with Champ hanging lifelessly from the jaws of a mountain lion who promptly jumped the six foot fence (with Champ in his mouth) and ran away. People are stupid, but lucky...next time it might not be the dog. And unfortunately some years after this occurred we indeed had a fatal cougar attack on a resident in Canmore. People who have no knowledge of how to behave in connection to wildlife of any kind need to educate themselves to respect wildlife, or suffer the consequences.
Bozeman!!!
Imagine elk crossing into Yellowstone and immediately letting their guard down.
“Safe zone!”
Steve is great at expressing thought and feelings. He’s very ethically driven. I have served in Sierra Leone the Balkans plus Iraq and Afghanistan and I’ve taken human life. But I feel worse about not taking an game animal cleanly in the USA than I feel about my combat ‘targets’ on tours. Judge me but I’m being honest.
Perhaps that's because you saw the enemy as evil. You don't see game as evil. (full disclosure - I'm not a veteran or active duty so I don't know)
Btw not judging you, just contemplating why that might have been.
2 weeks ago our cat went out like she has the past 12years and didn’t come back. Saw a coyote 3 days before in front of our house. Its part of life, still sucks though. Neighbors went missing around the same time. Our dog was acting crazy that day circling our property kept coming up to us then doing another circle around our property he knew right away even though he was inside when she was out. Animals are so heightened
Coyotes ATE your neighbors lol
Joe's face in the thumbnail looking at the deer like mmmm tasty
Crazy part with Yellowstone the deer and elk where just strolling threw parking lots of cars back in the mid 90s
joe has never been around wild animals without his bow
Joe “Elk” Rogan
Joe your amazing!👍
The deer in colville wa use the cross walks and even learned to wait for the light when they got put in.
My cat was almost carried off by a golden eagle. I was more amazed at being that close to a golden eagle in by back yard than thinking about saving my cat. The eagle flew off and didn't eat my cat.
Golden eagles are massive, bigger than bald eagles. I watched a bald eagle fight a heron north of Hayward WI last year and couldn't wrap my head around what I was watching
@@illmuskyhunter3313 that was the first time I seen one up close. We have bald eagles all over the place, up and down the river. This golden eagle looked bigger than me. My back yard is a little under 14 acres I see all kinds of bird. I had a family of sharp shins living here for five years and love watching them beat the hell out of crows. But that golden eagle is something I will never forget. It is bigger than the vultures.
If you haven't yet watch the videos on UA-cam of Eagles picking up goats and launching those fuckers off off cliffs. It's amazing
A buzzard tried to steal a woodpigeon i shot the other day. I shot it, winged it then the buzzard swooped down on it and had a nibble.
deer will stomp dogs. and the dog will be like WHY IS THIS HAPPENING I'M A GOOD BOY!!!
LMFAO
I knew of a couple of dogs who ganged up and killed a big ass deer
Some of them still have the wolf in them
I live in it everyday in the great state of Tennessee.
I have pictures from to late 70's when I was really young of my Dads best friend being chased by a Male Bison in Yellowstone... he didnt see ot creeping up on him and didnt listen to us till almost too late and had to run and jump into the old Dodge van we were all in. Great memory... pay attention or you MIGHT GET GOT!!
I wish this dude would finish a thought
I see joe has never ran into feral dogs. They absolutely can predate and survive. Though I admit most breeds/individuals would not.
Dogs are all basically infant wolves, they never grow up. Adult wolves are entirely different. My mum once adopted one and we could go and walk them. But you can't master them and have to know your position in the pack ie: never touch their heads.
srspower yeah. My point was joe said they’re not animals and can not survive without humans. They can and do. In Pripyat for example they are fairly successful predators
@@ricksanchez4813 both Joe and Rinella have a simplistic and unscientific grasp of this, they aren't entirely wrong, but I would not listen to them for actual facts. This guy and Joe are hunters, that's their relationship with nature.
Happened to see a raccoon and an owl while sitting outside tonight in central Austin. I think a lot of people don’t spend much time outside, and when they do, they are not sitting still for long.
I grew up and still live where wildlife is an everyday thing...i feel sorry for people living in cities and suburbs
I made eye contact with a caged tiger, and the way he looked at me, I can tell that he didn't like me, and would have hurt me if given the chance......... I felt really bad him. I hate Zoo's
I had that experience with a lion as a kid. I was by myself and he was staring at me like I stare at a meatball sub with mozzarella.
I love hearing these people who’ve never set foot outside an urban setting, talking about how cute and cuddly wild animals are. I want them to come out to PA where I live when a bear comes into my garage to get at my trash. I’d say “yeah go pet it they’re super friendly”.... Chomp
depends on the species, black bear you could probably shoo it away, others good luck.
we love marshall!
Snow geese knew where we could hunt & how far our shotguns could shoot.
Also, in the Rattlesnake drainage in Missoula, there is a collared mom grizzly with cubs who doesn't often get noticed. She comes down into neighborhoods & raids bird feeders but not trashcans, and it seems she has been teaching her kids to stay out of trouble.
Oh joe we have wild dogs in Australia. Some are domestic dogs that have been left in the bush by people but then we have like domestic dingo hybrids. And they will make packs and kill everything.
Ric Weld yep, my mother lives out in the country and the stray dogs just pack up .