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I was that "random car driver"! Having ridden up it, without walking, the day before I know that anyone making it to the top deserves a round of applause.
Wow, you deserve a round of applause too! Just curious, do you train every day to come to this fitness level?
I’m on a best of five with this bugger, and I’m currently 0 - 2 down. Well done to all those that nailed it. Pleased I managed all the others, as I was celebrating my 65th!
Got up this last week without stopping with a 30 on the back. Trained like a mad man for it and proud to be in the club
What did you have on the front, 34?
I went up last week for the first time. No problem whatsoever. 13m 5s and I am 68 years old and weigh 17 stone 11 lbs.
Oh I forgot to mention - I have an eBike.
I did it non stop on my Freddie grub bike with a loaded saddle bag en route to black sail pass! Rode and walked the pass to black sail hut. Happy days.
It was in 1956,
I did this climb yesterday, but not being an athlete I had to stop a few times. No shame in that - I was just glad to get the whole way up on my own power. Maybe one day when I'm in my best shape I'll try do it in one go. Greetings from an Aussie.
I completed this climb yesterday! Delighted to make it safely to the top despite almost getting knocked over by two cars and finally, 100 yards from the summit cairn, a herd of cows on the road! Great feeling to make it all the way up.
I went up it in my LDV 200, it went on three wheels several times on the bends. I was in first gear and foot to the floor and it was slowing down to the point of stalling just passed the 33% bit. The thought of reversing down was frightening, I dipped the clutch and the revs picked up enough to get me to the top. White knuckles and out of breath, my companion said he has never seen a person more at one with their vehicle. How anyone can get up that ill on a bike is amazing. I've only just managed Red hill near louth.
Did it in my lwb sprinter. Wouldn't recomend it. 3 wheels at some points. I had enough power and was doing ok till I met another camper that parked on the 1:3 so I had to (comming down) do a 3 point turn reversing up a very steap bit with a drop in if I failed. Wheels were spinning trying to reverse up a 1 in 3 with 3.5 tonnes of vehicle. Won't be doing that again :)
did this last year july according to my own climbing rules (fully seated, no foot down, no weaving) - 28t chainring/34t sprocket, 32mm tyres, dry day, really good tailwind. did it totally as slow as possible - pacing yourself is crucial
at my speed balancing the bike became a large part of the struggle. - saw 4x4 cars wheel spinning on the hairpins , one worry i had was cars causing me to put a foot down somewhere, but they all pull over and cheer on - great. keep your head down, don't look at the top, put some old-man gears on your bike. the wrynose decent on the other side looks like a nice climb too - maybe next time
I cycled from Headingley, Leeds over to Whitehaven…already tired when I started the pass but took it slow and bounced from pedal to pedal…on my 90’s steel Ribble, gonna have to do it on my R5 next..awesome solo day!!
I love this! I want to ride that, but I've got my own version in dirt that I regularly ride. I watched this while riding rollers. It was very entertaining.
I drove over Hard Knot in each direction this week, as I walked Pillar the day before my 57th. Coming back over the route you chose was difficult in a car, especially as some one in van kept stopping to give the down traffic priority. Chapeau boys.
It's brutal, I've only ridden it on a mountain bike and it's still brutal with super low gears.
Loved the video! Funny and entertaining. Awesome job!
How in the hell did that Roman Legion haul up all the materials for that Fort, find & move those boulders, the wood for the buildings, fighting the steep incline and winds? That takes a lot of mind-numbing grit & dedication, incredible!
I think there was a Roman commander, let's say the equivalent of a colonel, who was in Eskdale and realized he and his troops really needed not to be in Eskdale, and their line of retreat to the sea was cut off, and they weren't too fussy and settled on the most direct route, gradients be damned. And that's where the road sits to this day. And the fort came along to make sure nobody ever had to be in that situation again. And in a nod to future Britain, they never got around to changing the route of the road.
Just did this today, really enjoyed it. Fortunately it was dry because my biggest concern was loosing traction and my back wheel slipping. I had a 11-30 and 34/50, with GP5000 @ 85PSI, that was the perfect choice for me - I was out of my seat for most of it though, I can imagine having a 32 on the back would allow you to stay seated a bit more. All in all a great day out, something for any cyclist to do at least once.
I just came across this video. I rode over Hardknott pass on a fixed gear bike in the late 50s - I do not recall what gear I used but I walked quite a lot - both uphill and downhill.
I found this video very helpful and informative as it established for me, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that there is no f**king chance of me going anywhere near that climb 🤣🤣
Wow take my hat off to you guys that 33% bit was making my legs twitch and ache just watching. Well done
It’s like watching Frodo and Sam climbing Mount Doom!!
Epic effort boys.
When I ride it I found that technique is very important too, if you can’t keep your line because you are going so slow and are unbalanced you’ll end up off the side or in a rut especially if a car is coming too. Position on the bike too: too far forward and the rear wheel will slip away and too far back and your front wheel will go. Core strength training exercises help.
Did this as part of the coast to coast in 2011 on mountain bikes with 25 lbs rucksacks and raincoats on. Its really steep and it was hard to keep the front wheel down as all the weight is far back. And dont forget when you go down the other side you still have wrynose pass to climb next!
I think I’ve just found something for the 2021 to do list - thanks guys
Hardknott Pass is so Beautiful. I would Love To Climb That and planning on doing it.
You guys are awesome
I’m going to enter it for 2019. Good Luck
Excellent run through guys! Loved it!
My knees were hurting just watching it. Too effort 👍🍻
Wow, that’s Ollie the guy from GCN 🙊
Yeah! Ollie cycling weakly ;-)
Respect! Great effort, great video- my calves were twitching just watching.
Funny enough this inspires me to go and ride it lol, greetings from Belgium
Brilliant little knott. We had a few of those in Yangmingshan, Taiwan and most recently up Pikes and Mt Evans , Colorado.., although not short...would love to give Hardknott a go with my 12 yr old boy Giovanni. He likes your kits and Catlikes ,,,if you're going to suffer ..one must do so in Style
You do all that to get to the top, but you've still got to get over Wrynose too 😂
what was not said is that on the Fred, Hardknott comes at 90+ miles in. did the fred same time as these guys, managed it with no dabs with a 34 on the back
Pretty sure the day after The Fred I wasn't thinking 'I could really do with slogging up Hardknott again'. Good effort!
Going downward with a car (slippery) was already very exciting. Great achievement guy. respect!
Wow-I just found this. I did the climb in June 1992 on a touring bike. drop bars and a good lowest gear (15 total). I had small panniers front; and large ones rear, full of my gear on a three month tour of England and Wales. I did have a 10 minute break half way up-chatted with another Australian driving down. It's important to work each curce=ve as well-take every small ease in gradient where possible-I call them micro gradents.I must say this clip is brilliant. It's usually impossible to capture such grades by camera. I can feel the grades again! If you are young enough and fit enough. its worth a go! Something never to be forgotten as they say. Best wishes. :-)
I also couldn't choose between Contador and Wiggins, so I compromised and went with "Overweight, unfit, and walking". Worked well.
Looks very tough - I’ve cycled a lot of the climbs in the uk the hardest one I found was the tumble without doubt
I have just moved to Kendal and have no inclination to cycle this, especially after living in t'Netherlands for a while. Mind you, my 1200 Bandit would like it.
Also rhythmic heavy breathing and grunting describes pretty much every ride I do.
I've done this truly wonderful climb 3 times, I live in Scotland and regularly do very steep gravel roads/MTB climbs up in the highlands as well as road cycling.
The first time I tackled Hardknott, the conditions were unbelievable, it was morning a really hot summer day but the morning was cool and perfect and most importantly windless! The second time it was driving rain (I mean it is britian), the third it was somewhere in between.
I think the only thing I could add would be to say on busier days the real challenge is similar to Bealach Na Ba (Applecross up here in Scotland) which is leaving enough space on the steep switchbacks, several times I have seen people roll back when trying to hill start and so staying well back to keep up your momentum really helps, I've seen cyclists fall off trying to stop on the steep sections of climbs and it just isn't worth it. My advice, get up early, get there when it is quiet and enjoy!
(oh and having a climbing setup on one of my bikes was fun to have the extra granny gears).
Brilliant review well done
Brilliant video.....I wanna have a go.....and one day I WILL!!!
Better do it now before you get too old.
I ride in Pembrokeshire loads of short 25% climbs here but nothing anywhere near that long. Definitely on my bucket list of rides/sportive to do.
That's where there's an ironman....argh
Great video.well done lads.
Looks like a beast. I was feeling pretty good about pounding up a 10-13% climb this morning before work. 33% is just insane, lol. I'm almost 200lbs though too. :D
Current Strava KOM held by 2020 British Hill Climb Champion Andrew Feather since October 1st 2020. (Avg speed 11,2 km/h, Power 463W, Time 8:22)
This was a great video!
EN110 - São Mamede. Coimbra - Portugal. 2.080 meters long, average 14.5%. One of couple of hairpins goes to 37% on the inside. :)
Chapeau guys, that looked brutal.
So first of all... Ollie as always great content ! :D
really love this kind of video, keep uploading ride video!
i would love this to be part of one of the grand tours!!!
On the global scale of things it is not exactly exceptional.
Did this on Sunday 15th July 2018! You forgot to mention the option of unclipping, taking pics and getting back on. I stopped 6 times, but did not walk any of it! I think there's not real way of describing this climb, even to experienced cyclists. You just have to go and do it! By far the hardest climb I've ever done.
That looks absolutely savage. Heinous.
Haha got here because I am doing keuteberg Netherlands tomorrow. Different cup of tea but each his own 😁
Me and a mate did this ride in 1992, I was on a Raleigh Apex MTB, with a flex stem. We rode for 7 hours across the lakes, so worn out, we survived on Blackberries, off the bushes. My car ran out of Petrol, on the Motorway, just outside of Lancaster, I had to scale the embankment with the bike, to find petrol, for my old Austin Allegro. Good Times.
definitely thumb up for you two.
Best video on Hardknott Pass, full stop! Going to try to crack this in the next couple of months. Cheers guys.
Did you?
Once The pandemic’s over, it’s on my list (and no walking this time)...👍
@@Moshie71 you can do it!!
@@eastlamb9949 👍
Two fit lads...chapeau.
Great video got this coming up in the c2c in June, and on an orro!
Neil, Im planng to do it ion 22th june. May see me on it. we are doing the C2C to saltburn.
neil jackson
Awesome climbs you 2 are beasts
52-36 and 11-32 got me up at this years Fred. Still took me over 15minutes.
simonyzf1000r it's possible on my "climbing" bike with the same ratio's
Anyone looking who wants to know exactly how tough this is - I have a 34/30 on my bike, weigh 97kg (3w/kg FTP on a good day) and found it impossible to do the 25%+ sections, especially with miles in the legs already. It's not all bad, the 10-15% bit in the middle genuinely feels flat in comparison. Amazing experience though.
Yeah, that kind of wattage ain't pulling 97kgs up that!
I rode the pass about 25 years ago on old school gears 42x24, couldn't do it now. Whilst it's an achievement to get to the top a modern 11 speed cassette makes it a lot more accessible back in the day seven speed was as good as it got. I wonder if anyones got up on fixed?
Surely anyone can on a fixed, with super low gearing of course.
Animals! A tip of the cap to you boys. That was one heckuva climb.
'Ollie, we are gonna send you to hardknott pass.... And can you do some presenting while you climb it.' Think this pushed him over the edge to go to GCN. Or it would have me lol. I am impressed by how little he is out of breath.
I was gutted when I cycled up Hard knot as I had to stop at the first 33 % hairpin as a minibus had grounded out going around it and its passengers were all getting out. Did manage most of the climb settled in a 36x25, it is horrible though.
they also forgot to mention that after the descent its up and over Wrynose pass with a max of 19%
25% actually 😬
really looking forward to the fred next weekend 😖😖😖 just not hardknot pass lol
Props to these guys for doing this the day after they'd already done it on a 115 mile ride....as far as the fort and the road's origins, I think some Roman surveyor found themselves in Eskdale and really wanting to get out of Eskdale very quickly even if it meant climbing straight up the side of a mountain on their hands and knees.
I love that feeling when I get up 😁
Screw that, I did trough of bowland and that was tough for me, with parts of 17%, 30%, is to much for my legs.
You guys must have done it multiple times to get the chest cam views. Chapeau indeed.
Or they stopped multiple times.
In this situation, nothing wrong with the triple chainring concept is there?
I "cleaned" it but I had 34-32 on a 1999 Principia RS6. I've had the privilege of riding many iconic European climbs, Hardknott is up there with the best.
That Ollie guy just did hill climb today with GCN. He all over in the cycling world or they cloned him (LOL)!
Is this in the Tour of Britain??? Very impressive guys. NOt sure I could even get up this in one go!! I'd need lower gears than that!
'The 10% recovery zone'!
the tour of britain has not included this climb yet, i would love to see the pros tackle it though as would many others
I'll never complain again about my 14% climb, I promise.
Wow, how many times did you have to ride up? Looking at the different shots and camera angles I recon it must have been at least 3.
You guys had to have done that little sprint at the end on another day;)
That gag about the adult entertainment industry really got me
Need some mountain gears for that!
I have a theory (maybe. mad) that some hills are harder than others even when they dont look it... Like they mention in the video about some mountain climbs being easier than this when on paper they should be harder. I think some climbs have stronger gravity... Maybe down to rocks under or something
John,not so daft as some people might think! I used to drive up the Cheviot Hills to Wooler,and one of the climbs,my 2.5 Litre Straight Six Vauxhall Senator,AND my Tourer Caravan used to feel like it was being pulled up the hillroad..I had to ease off the throttle when I should have been opening it wide for the climb!! I remarked every time to my Wife and two young Sons there are Magnetic rocks below us..!
@@highpitwilma Yeah I know right....... I have climbs around here that look steep but you can bomb up on your bike and look very cool. Then others that actually hardly look like hills at all when driving and its so embarrassing as cars slow behind you and you are struggling up this 'flat' road 😀 - By the way Vauxhall Senator you showing your age there. Nice cars and bloody quick to
6.09 a message for Katie kookaburra still there.
It was still there last week. 24th November.
Thanks for this. Like falling up a cliff?
I had a 25x34 but had to walk. But that was due to a minibus grounding out and blocking the road on the first 33% hairpin.
How the hell are you talking at all?
That's what I thought... No talking for me on climbs I need my breath
@@JohnYoungPhotographer I rode up in Feb 2020, on a Brompton. Feet went down at least twice. Brutal. Zero chance of ever talking going up it. Them talking of 'recovery'? It just doesn't exist on that. I didn't walk, but didn't ride a Fred before hitting it... just a nice little warm up. First time foot went down was to take off the rain cape before I boiled in the bag. 2nd was just pain and shoe loosening.
oh ..what was your gearing?
What bikes were they riding?
I did it... I put an 11/42 and a compact on... I'm 56 years old and without the gearing I would've been walking.. Chuffed
i live around 40mins from here but I'm still too scared to even try it
Who knows. It might not be as shit as you are envisioning
got to be a lot to do with your gear ratios too, if you hit it on a 52/36 on the front it isn't gonna happen.. not sure i would like it on a compact & 34 on the back....28 on the front sounds better haha
What gearing were you guys running ?
Chapeau to doing this and talking the whole time
Quote: "...strip the audio off this video and just sell it to the adult entertainment industry...". ROFL! That's about the strength of it!
Great vid lads! Well done!
I envy you for making this one through!
Gorgeous landscape and awesome route!
Nothing more rewarding than beating a prolonged, harsh gradient.
Inspiration and motivation for all of us, to the power of infinity!
Cheers!
George, an amateur cyclist from Hellas.
Notice how they mention that East to West is easier...... and indeed it is, it's quite steep but very short...... However, what they've failed to mention is that to do it (from Langdale) East to West, you'll have to ride Wrynose pass from Langdale!
In my (and a few other locals) opinion, IS THE HARDEST CLIMB IN THE LAKE DISTRICT........
What gears and chain rings do you use?…. Ta should have waited till the end.
I did this a couple of weeks ago and suffered big time in the heat and on a 11-28 😭
How would you compare this with the Belach na ba? Great video I really want to go and give it a go :)
MusicStuffSome the bealach is much longer but there’s more recovery time (6.8 miles @ 6.7%) whereas the hardknott is 1.6miles @ 12.1%. The bealach is possibly the hardest climb in the uk though
Ah fair enough, yeah there's quite a lot of places on the belach climb where you can save some energy for the steep bits ! I guess i should just get ready for 15 mins+ of digging in when I go over to do the Fred Witton route !
Time team reference, down with the kid's!!durianrider rule for hills that steep,thai sprite,wolf tooth,42 cassette on the back then sell dodgy e books to noobs
Low hanging fruit yeah save all the messing about buy an MTB and just put slick tyres on it!!
Look at all these fast fred grinding noobs!! Thai Sprite an Wolf Tooth bruv
pedallin raw I import the Thai sprite,put it straight in a IV two litres straight in the vain!!I could get up Everest on it !!!!😉
How hard would it be on a mountain bike?
How do you train for this?