Totally Schway: Episode 33 - John Stewart and Shayera Hol's Doomed Romance

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  • @tayojones9460
    @tayojones9460 Місяць тому +4

    I felt bad for Shayera after John told her he was staying with Vixen. I was also very angry because John doomed his future son from not being born but now that I am older I understand why he did it. He did not want to be forced into anything by "destiny". He wants a relationship if the feeling is mutual. It is still heart breaking to watch especially as it leaves the fate of warhawk up in the air.
    I do feel bad for Vixen because she ended up dying in a spin off comic which led to John and Shayera finally getting together. In fact any romance with Vixen in animated adaptations usually end in tragedy (case in point her romance with Bwanna Beast in Brave and the Bold).

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому +1

      @@tayojones9460 Of course, I'm of the opinion Batman Beyond is the inevitable canon of the DCAU, and not even The Adventures Continue should change that.
      Granted, Batman Beyond shouldn't be entirely part of the DCAU canon, though I admit to liking the idea of killing off Vixen in either the Rann-Thanagar war or the Near-Apocalypse of '09.
      Oh, great, the memories of The Siege of Starro are coming back.

  • @mariadeal1244
    @mariadeal1244 Місяць тому +4

    Me learning Mary grew up in the same state as me for the first time and came to many of the same conclusions as me: oh, I understand why I vibe with her so much (even if I originally came here for the Serum Lake analysis)

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Місяць тому +4

    Hey y'all, its Totally Schway! Gonna talk with you, about whatever we say! Yeay!!!!😂❤( Um not trying to step on Big Mikey P's Shoes, but i wrote quite a bit below. Sorry Mikey, i did it out of respect!)
    *Hey y'all just wanted to say thank you all for the well wishes! Im slowly recovering and taking my time at work. That said, Hope you all continue to keep up such great content and never end on your fun creativity! Luke, I've shared your Poison Ivy videos with friends and they absolutely loved them! Not only the coverage, but the great commentary as well! Hell, they were mesmerized how beautiful she is, but also understood my frustration with how DC comics keeps giving Pamela a victim backstory vs her independent animated self 😮 Always shocks me!
    * Mary, love your Vandal Savage video! Gave that powerful caveman a great shout out and deserving of that great video! Thank you! Also, I grew up from a Baptist Church, and even then i always know to never judge a book by its cover, and practice what you preach. These lessons would be better utilized when you went out in the world, and experience interacting with others. I found some church goers would be hypocrital with their beliefs, and i made sure to not act as such accordingly.😢
    * Onto another topic, lets talk about Birdnose and GL! With Hawk Girl and Green Latern, i love them! ❤She is literally a warrior angel straight outta Flash Gordon with alot of love and care in those muscles! Plus with GL's military background, he adds as the straight man to Birdnoses rough and rowdy nature! It's awesome! Literally good cop hudband and wolverine wife!❤️😆 Oh sure i feel for Vixen, that other beautiful Amazon, but shes a proud, beautiful woman who could stand as powerful Lioness on her own. Men even close to GL could only hope to catch her beautiful eye! Especially not Bwanna Beaat!😂
    * Also Mary, im suprised you dont want me in your posse! Im equipped with a passionate knowledge of media, artistic skills, a power ring, web shooter and baseball bat!😂 I'd join yall with Big Mikey P, lol!
    * As for politics, My votes for Harley Quinns Puddin'! After seeing him in The Harley Quinn Show, getting his kids into a better education system and vrazy enough to take on PTA, he's got my respect! Not to mention a successful bust on Bruce Wayne! All hail Puddin'!

  • @docweidner
    @docweidner Місяць тому +1

    Thank Goodness You're Here. Shorter comment this week I think. I got to this late because the wife finally was up to catching up on some of her shows, like the Crown Season 6. And half my team is on your side of the pond, albeit in Germany, so work is a bit crazier than usual.
    Rewatching #JLAS and while I see some folks commenting that the GL Hawkwoman didn't seem like a thing, they sure seem like it on my watch through. I thought they did a nice job with it, felt like two work mates trying to figure out if this might work.
    Cultural question. Are haunted house attractions much of a thing in the UK or is it more of a US one?
    I say Movies. Sometimes theater, though usually when writing I use theater for movies and theatre if going to a play, musical, etc.
    When I was in Russia in the mid 2000s when we adopted our older son not sure what they used for sweetner in Mountain Dew. I don't think it was cane sugar and clearly wasn't corn syrup but was interesting flavor, maybe beet sugar. Which reminds me of another question. Do you guys have the zeros in the UK? Coke Zero, etc? Had to switch to diet a decade or so ago and love the newer zeros so much more than the Diets. Weirdly good, newest flavor I just tried is Zero Oreo flavored Coke. Sounds potentially awful, ends up really good. Dc

  • @David_Carney789
    @David_Carney789 Місяць тому +2

    I'm Really Interested To See How Lady Gaga Plays Harley In Joker 2. I Prefer John & Shayera As A Couple. Looking Forward To JLU #1 By Mark Waid To See If They Become A Couple. Really Enjoying Everything Both Of You Do. Hope You Both Have A Great Week.

  • @michaeldolan5792
    @michaeldolan5792 Місяць тому +2

    From what I understand, I'm pretty sure the Ch in Chutzpah should be pronounced like the ch at the end of Johann Sebastian Bach, an H with a harsh raspy sound at the back of your throat. Kind of like the way the Klingons say "Ghach is best when served live."

    • @CapnAlces
      @CapnAlces Місяць тому +1

      @@michaeldolan5792 It's the way I've always heard it too. I've been told it's a sound in Hebrew and Yiddish that doesn't quite have a counterpart in English. Like Greek and the word "cthonic" or that nifty "rolling R" in Spanish.
      ...That hot, sexy, rolling R.

  • @timelordvictorious
    @timelordvictorious Місяць тому +4

    Just to say my personal tale on the harlequin film I hop they don’t go into all this new stuff about the joker being mad I’m not really into it. I like better the joker pretending he has a mental illness but is just a evil person.The first film just encourages the stereotypes of mental health stuff.I’m happy if people disagree with me after all it’s good to debate these things.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому +1

      I'm OK with that iteration doing its thing. It's just that they should remember that "Freudian Excuse is No Excuse" is still a necessary trope... just don't make it too anvillicious though, lest it becomes as overrated as Static Shock's "Sons of the the Fathers" having an underutilized take against racism and "Jimmy" not doing well on gun messaging as Gargoyles' "Deadly Force".

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah like this is the same with the Green goblin if you look up on Tumbler the misconception of Norman Osborn

    • @timelordvictorious
      @timelordvictorious Місяць тому

      @@srstriker6420 yea I’m the Toby megure film they gave him a complete split personality. Daft as hell.

  • @harryfleutv666
    @harryfleutv666 Місяць тому +3

    Not gonna lie, I’m not as familiar with JLAS as the other DCAU main shows, so this episode will probably be a bit spoilery for me lol, I watched a few episode when I was little but I don’t think it had the same impact on me as BTAS. STAS, and Batman Beyond, I’m gonna marathon the day shows from BTAS to Batman Beyond (in chronological order) also I’m not sure how I feel about the romance subplots in the Justice League, I’ve seen a few clips and it looks cute but part of me is thinking ‘for goodness sake couldn’t they just be friends?’ because it is possible for men and women / boys and girls, to have a platonic relationship without any romance! But that’s just my take, I’m not entirely against romance until writers in films like Disney’s roster make it the only thing that defines a relationship outside of family! 🤦‍♂️

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      Guess you really need to catch up, for it is still part of the definitive DCAU canon. However, I think Batman Beyond is better off watched between S: TAS+TNBA and JL+JLU so to not be weirded out by animation quality changes and lack of JL events being mentioned in the far future. Oh, and "Epilogue" should be watched after JLU Season 3, to have the proper endgame feel (which may get ruined if one continues to Fatal Five).
      Can agree with platonic relationships needing more appreciation (something the Spider-Verse films really should keep to the end with Miles and Gwen), but silly me, I sure didn't think with that parenthesized quote when it came to John x Shayera. Am also one of those shippers.

    • @harryfleutv666
      @harryfleutv666 Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359 fair enough, also season 3? I thought JLU only had two seasons?

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому +1

      @@harryfleutv666 Well, Season 1 is mostly standalones, Season 2 is about CADMUS ("Epilogue" is its finale, but do skip it for the right feels), and Season 3 is about Lex Luthor and Gorilla Grodd's unstated Legion of Doom. In short, yes, it got past the two season/26 ep limit.

    • @CapnAlces
      @CapnAlces Місяць тому +2

      I hear you on the platonic relationships thing. But the romantic tension is fairly well played between them. None of the original 7 are a couple by the end of the series, and the Flash fancies himself a playboy and gets made fun of more than once over it.
      There's a brief romance subplot between WW and Bats, but it goes nowhere and is all the better for it. That was even the point. As much of a fan as I personally was of that ship, I really appreciate how they show these two colleagues just deciding to be that and nothing more. It's very mature. Batman is simply not emotionally available, and Wonder Woman has too much self respect to chase him over it. They settle for a working relationship and just move on like the professional adults they are.

  • @DFuxaPlays
    @DFuxaPlays Місяць тому +2

    Huh? Why is one of your chapters here called 'Let's Talk The Penguin'? Did we copy and paste something and forget to change it to today's topic?

    • @SerumLake
      @SerumLake  Місяць тому +2

      WHOOPS!

    • @DFuxaPlays
      @DFuxaPlays Місяць тому +2

      @@SerumLake In advance, no need to read this one out loud.

  • @A1ml33y
    @A1ml33y Місяць тому +1

    I ❤Hawk Girl & John in this show , it's a relationship that I want to see go through their limits and how their Break Up made me sad for them in the Series into JLU .
    I hope we get something like that in the DCU by James Gunn because I cannot suffer through another Terrible Live stream Justice League movie
    I have a question Luke & Mary will
    We ever get a Justice League animated series as Good as This show , is DC /WB capable of making something as Good as Justice League Unlimited again with the Engery of X-Men 97?

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      @@A1ml33y Well, we did sorta get that with Justice League Action, but...
      Meantime, I'd rather have a non-DC saga with many influences to the DCAU (and then some others, like the first two Captain America MCU films); would be schway to see the cast of stuff like Gravity Falls/Amphibia/The Owl House (and perhaps otherworlds like Kim Possible, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, and an iteration of Gargoyles where the non-canon Season 3 and the sequel comics don't happen) team up and work together like the Justice League, and later duke it out against what is essentially an Earthborne human expeditionary defense threat with elements akin to CADMUS, XCOM, the Global Defense Initiative, Third Echelon, NERV, Grendel Squadron, and so on.

    • @A1ml33y
      @A1ml33y Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359
      And Your point is
      I would like to see something that leads into the Justice League Betind timeline & later Legion of Superheroes
      All I want is something new leading into the future

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому +1

      @@A1ml33y Hmm, good point. However, I expect it to showcase the moral entropy and ultimate fall of the once gloried Justice League Unlimited; the likes of Babylon 5's Season 4 finales have spoiled into such a bittersweet legacy where even the good guys will become the bad guys of tomorrow.

    • @A1ml33y
      @A1ml33y Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359
      I'm not interested in seeing how the Justice League becomes the Justice Lords ( been there seen that already )
      I would see Justice League in the Far Future be a Proto Legion of Superheroes with characters like SX , Supergirl, Donna Troy, Natasha Irons , Lobo, Batwoman & Etrigan the Demon doing some Guardian if you Galaxy Adventure. Now this is something I would ❤️to see from WB Animation as a Ongoing Series

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому

      @@A1ml33y Nah, I was thinking those wayward heroes from Kingdom Come.
      Supergirl and Natasha can't be around, considering the timelines and events on the DCAU. Lobo's free game, but only if Superman is finally gone, while Etrigan may have finally passed on not unlike in those non-DCAU Batman Beyond comics.

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому +1

    Looks like the sudden binging of the anime Mononoke (because October is coming, and no, not Princess Mononoke; it... involves... a Medicine Seller) will have to wait.
    Siding with Harris myself. Her victory shall mean the world still has hope, even when there's "an east wind coming", quoting Sherlock Holmes' "His Last Bow".
    Not into musicals? Darn, SL, you're also not into the MUSIC MEISTEEEEEERRRRRRRR????????????
    No mention of "The Savage Time: Part 3" being a bit similar to Captain America: The First Avenger's final act. Also, it's "Wild Cards".
    Curious how Season 2 of JL works better on airdate order than it is on production order. Confusing, though, considering how production order has benefitted B: TAS, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and maybe S: TAS.
    16:04: In an aside, I'm fine on how the power couple of Vision of Escaflowne never even once kissed. Meantime, I sure hope the Spider-Verse films' Miles Morales and Gwen Stacy stay honorary siblings and not become an official couple.
    Funny how "Starcrossed" is the first time the DCAU Batman used Year One/Batman Begins bat-attracting Batarangs; Dwayne McDuffie nicely noticed that during the finale's production. Oh, and surely Bruce voted *against* Shayera, though hopefully not because of Millerverse/DCEU anti-alien biases.
    Superfriends Aquaman

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359 I was never bothered by Barbara and Bruce but I do agree with you, stay away from the 2.0 comic because man that was a whole mess on its own,!!!😆

  • @Scrinwaipwr
    @Scrinwaipwr Місяць тому

    I wrote like 4 comments and they all disappeared. Nearly a week later they still haven't shown up so I guess I got bot fucked like Mikey P. So I'll put all I remember writing (which is about half of it) all in one place.
    First I 100% agree with Luke at 6:28 as I hate that they made Joker 2 a musical. Making things that arent musicals into musicals pretty much always means making an inferior version of it.
    Musicals are inherently absurd so they only work as comedies and parodies (e.g Avenue Q is brilliant.) It doesn't work in things like drama. Every serious musical (e.g Les Miserables, Phantom Of The Opera, Miss Saigon) would benefit from not being musicals; compare the musical and non-musical version of Sweeny Todd and latter is so much better.
    The show tunes are often little more than filler and spectacle; Michael Bay explosions for the pseudo-intellectual ponces of society. And with how much I read this stuff takes up of Joker 2's run time, it sounds like an operetta, a great big nothing burger relying on songs and dances to pad out the run time.
    I really liked the first film so I'd probably enjoy the second but I'm certain it won't be anywhere near as good as the first, especially if I'm being more subjective, because it's been made a musical. I read it's tanking ar the box office and being panned by critics, fans and general audiences alike. Good. These awful obnoxious twats who keep turning things never meant to be musicals into musicals need to be stopped.
    That was a longer rant on the subject than before as I've had extra days to think about it. I forgot all my other things so now it's straight onto *chicken news* with a few more days of update.
    The new hens have been here for nearly a month. They've settled in and become excelled eggs layers, especially Doris. They have reached healthy weights and are covering their bald patches with new feathers despite Wilma plucking them out sometimes. The older hens and the newer hens are all able to hang out in the garden together with only lite supervision.
    Both Betti and Wilma can be very tolerant at times, today I saw bonding behaviour between Betti and Doris for the first time as Betti cleaned Doris' beak after they ate some mush together. At other times they can still be quite intolerant; Betti in particular likes snapping at the little ones. They often try to run to get passed her quickly which only makes Betti feel more threatened and more likely to snap at and peck them. Wilma doesn't snap as often but when she does it's worse. Last week they were getting on so well for a few days in a row I stopped using the partition when they're all locked in the aviary together for eatly morning. On third morning of this, all of Doris' new feather in her back had been ripped out and she was bleeding. That was almost certainly Wilma, little motherplucker that she is. Cleaned up the wound and when the bleeding stopped I painted Doris' back purple to make her look less appetising (though given that the hens enjoynred cabbge this isn't fool proof.)
    Don't feel too sorry for Doris though. In the days leading up to that attack she'd been acting very mean to Meibel, especially when Wilma and Betti could see, as if tk say to them "Look at me, I can be a mean girl too, let me join your clique!" But Wilma and Betti were not impressed, they think she's a wannabe and a poser. Doris even got sent to the brig once. Since getting decked and patched up though Doris has been nicer to Meibel and less scared of / more affectionate to me. The bald patch Wilma made on her back is covered up again too.
    Betti's face has healed well from her accident with the back door and she does have a scar on her beak but you'd only see it if you knew it was there. Still got our brushes with death though with Betti having a little health scare (possible cancer symptoms but she seems pretty well again for now; speculation that Betti won't make it through the winter is large reason why Doris and Meibel were bought.) Betti and Wilma came into my kitchen one day (uninvited) where Wilma found and tried to eat an elastic band; I pulled it out of her mouth just before she swallowed it.
    The coop hasn't needed a partition inside for a couple of weeks; they all sleep together peacefull though until a few days I needed to supervise bedtime to stop violence as they negotiated who sleeps where. There's less need now and the bigger older hens let the younger smaller hens cwtsh up with them sometimes (usually in the pairs of Betti & Meibel and Wilma & Doris.)
    Integrating 2 groups of hens can take a months so that my babies have come this far in a month is brilliant and I'm very proud of them. I know my training methods played a big part but it's not all me, it's also the hens being good girls and clever girls.

  • @Tony_Kim_
    @Tony_Kim_ Місяць тому

    Hot Take: John and Hawkgirl shipping was equally cringe as BruceXBarbra

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Місяць тому +3

      To each our own, but one must at least admit they're more rewatchable than the love triangle between Wolverine, Cyclops, and Phoenix in X-Men.

    • @Tony_Kim_
      @Tony_Kim_ Місяць тому

      Nah both are cringe

    • @Santoryu90
      @Santoryu90 Місяць тому +3

      How exactly?

    • @Tony_Kim_
      @Tony_Kim_ Місяць тому

      X-MEN Love Triangle and DCAU Shippings by Bruce Timm is fucking cringe by existing

    • @timelordvictorious
      @timelordvictorious Місяць тому +2

      I didn’t mind Barbara and Bruce’s love triangle In the DCAU.